Oroboro Getting His Bunker Piled By The #1 Melee Player (In Depth) - Zimmer Crusher - Armored Core 6
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Special little video where I go into detail over my gameplay and tactics with my build, while crushing Oroboro.
!!DISCLAIMER!!
I do not hate Oroboro, nor do I have anything against him. He is a long-time content creator, and his content is wonderful, I myself even watch it on occasion. Don't think this is a hateful jab at him or making fun of him. If anything, you should follow him in his socials yourself, as he deserves the love.
!!DISCLAIMER!!
Check out the highly skilled meta-devouring menace, Myndrrr! / @myndrrr
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0:00 Introduction
1:32 Oroboro POV 1
2:00 In-Depth Explanation 1
2:39 Oroboro POV 2
3:41In-Depth Explanation 2
4:52 Oroboro POV w/ Commentary
6:02 Oroboro Piled (Final)
6:46 Intermission
7:16 Dual Zimmer Crush
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Poor Oro, being the punching bag of the meta.
Not a bunching bag, but a bench mark. Only after beating Oro, do you put a video on youtube about the build and calling it OP.
It's an inside joke between me and my friend by now. One must defeat Oroboro before their build can be validated.
Is oroboro hated? I only noticed that the build videos i watch to beat a level im stuck in is his.
@@deusexmachina9743 Hes like the mainstream meta standard. He put pvp meta build out, ppl copied his build. So his build is a reflection of the current meta. Another thing is skill, beating a pro content creator with your build is a badge to drive views.
@@sumdude5172 ahh, at least he's not hated. Will meta change over time? Do you guys think this game will be frequently updated like elden ring?
Oroboro has now become one of those AC's in the analysis tab
💀💀💀
He is the gate of "Is my build good"
Comment legitimately made me laugh aloud.
@@CodenameMoodfair enough
His skill in this game is decent enough as "common tryhard"
Beside, this video was him testing new things
Big deal
He’s probably the the real life variant of the Dafeng student pilot.
The first charged bunker you did was pretty funny how your ac was in idle stance, and then an explosion just happened. Great video tho ragey
High ping is funky like that. From my POV, his assault armors were sometimes animationless and effectless, actually T-posing.
It wasn't a bug or ping, It's the raw Chad energy of pile bunker in AC form
@@CodenameMoodyour ac staring him down was what caused the explosion
Armor countering is so addicting. i dont even know or care if theres a better time to use the armor, but assault armoring right as the opponent goes to use their pulse (or vice versa) makes me stupidly giddy
Honesty I use assault armor on builds that have no business running it because landing it and punishing with a kick is pure dopamine on any build.
Best time to use it is either that, or when you are close to ACS overload yourself, since it resets impact. But I am also a very far-gone addict of teching assault armor..
Self proclaimed best melee user
Personally the only true melee build is one without guns with the exception of EM smoke because it’s funny.
I knew that Oro and Cowboy would have targets on their backs since they were in the presentation. People will be gunning for them.
Best believe you people will get another video for when I find Cowboy.
Ahahah yes!
@@CodenameMood You should add their Pilot Emblems somewhere on your AC as decals and add marks for every overall victory xD
Dual zimmerman build user: What kinda shit build is that? your not even gonna last 5 seco-
Mood: Your talking alot of shit for someone in pile bunkering distance
I LOVE CLAPPING THE DUAL SHOTTY ZIMMER MAN META WEIRDOS. Oh and the stun needle meta also, love oblitering cringe meta kids.
As I said, room temperature IQ meta abusers. You are 90x smarter, use that to your advantage!
OH what a surprise that you recommended Myndrrr. I found his channel before yours but I love both of your content. Making these builds and learning more about armored core is so fun
We're friends who met in an unlikely game, and both found a liking for AC6. He is the one that inspired me to start making content too!
This is THE channel I’ve been looking for 🎉
Welcome, welcome!
i knew this game would fit you very well. The Melee Messiah!!!!
Someone had to do it!
It is just incredible to me how melee users can use melee cancelling to dance around the battlefield so effortlessly
It's our pride!
Like the fight breakdown combined with both perspectives. More vids like this!
Your voice is heard!
So the guy is having fun with a cool shield defensive build and you are calling this a "Zimmer crusher" despite using a Zimmerman? How does that make any sense?
It doesn’t lol
maybe check out the last chapter
@@bohoaDev I can't believe I even have to explain this, but generally when you refer to something as a potential counter option to a powerful strategy, you avoid using the strategy you intend to counter. My comment has nothing to do with whether or not this build can beat someone using Zimmermans, because it contains a Zimmerman. Of course you can beat Zimmermans if you use a Zimmerman.
People know the Zimmerman is good, but they always cry about DUAL Zimmermans. You will RARELY find anyone running a singular Zimmerman.
We can't have optimal AND unique at the same time for a melee build, because melee inherently is far too finnicky.
so the build zimmers you, then crushes you. hope this helps
Good play, but maybe tone down the ego. I had to mute halfway through, it was just too much man
Great commentary and intuitive build. I enjoyed this video that got recommend to me.
ur playstyle is so fun to watch!
Thank you!
You are so right. Knowing how to move is an absolute *must*. Relearning how to dance around opponents took me all the way through C rank
Great breakdown video
Thank you for watching!
When you hear that Pile Bunker charge up, Chills go down your spine.
From this I've learned a couple things to get better at piloting. Great display of skill here.
Check out the newest vid for even more to learn!
@CodenameMood I'll definitely check it out, thank you.
Oh that sweet sfx at the end, juicy.Well play！
Good movement and reading the enemy this game will make you master that. Makes the story easy when you hit NG++ and beyond.
Truthfully spoken!
We played a good string of matches earlier today! I really like that build!
Thank you, and good fight!
Props for beating him but your build literally counters him. He has a pulse shield you have pulse blade. On paper you won. You’re gonna cut through his shield faster. And you showed tech for the pulse battle. You beat him in the assembly
blud had no chance since the part shop 😭
Depends, my pulse blade was doing like 500 dmg to him total with each swing, when normally it does like 2k or so with a charged swing. Shields are great against melee, IF you can parry them. He just managed his impact meter badly and didn't respect the ACS overload.
@@CodenameMood That's the thing. Pulse weapons are really good at inflicting ACS strain on pulse shields/armor. That pulse scutum has Impact reduction around 70, so he wouldn't even feel it if it wasn't a pulse blade.
Really cool video? I realize this isn't a melee suggestion, but could you try out dual Haldemans + dual Sweet Sixteens? It's a build I worked out after getting a bit sick of the Zimm stagger+ Needle punish meta, and it's really fun to use since it is very high risk-high reward.
The problem with it is when it goes against heavier ACs, especially those that have meta builds, but I imagine quality movement may be able to offset it. Would you be willing to give it a try?
Anyways, great video, I really love to see a melee player in AC games, and glad that 6 gives so many options. Now if only we could dual blade like in FA...
I Generally love how use the Zimmerman yourself not using as the primary weapon respecting your other weapons and Yourself dancing away absolutely beautiful
I’m not really a huge Oroboro fan or anything, and the movement is super impressive, but the Zimm really does the trick for a melee oriented build lmao still insane stagger by itself plus it’s a nice finisher on direct hit when your opponent has little health to finish them off
pulse scutum honestly seems like it was made for pve and to punish novice/stat based pvp, where you can quickly deal with enemies and open it before getting in the fight, which keeps it from overheating or resetting the prime mode
"Average IQ of room temperature" got me.
I'm gonna try and figure out how good coral builds are when I finish my log hunt. Could you showcase one?
I admire how you are so accurate with your tracking, that is currently my problem, I know what to do but i'm constantly losing my opponent and Im terrible at judging distance melee accurately. This is my Ideal playstyle, just not good enough to execute, my energy management seems to suffer as i'm constantly red lining, just practice I guess.
Brother is calling himself the 1# melee player when the game just came out a week ago 💀
Chances are anyone who is STILL doing the story at this pace has no chance in PVP in the first place.
Amazing gameplay. You are INSANELY good
Feels kinda lame. "melee messiah" lol
very good plays. with the revers joints and the pile driver i always find i am to far or overshoot a boost forward to get in position for a charged attack. any advice on positioning? I assume its just practice and knowing your dashes?
Check my newest video for really good tips on that!
Idk if he's any different in AC6 but in souls pvp oro mostly ran weird theme builds even though he did have a few "meta" builds he'd fall back to when streaming. Not really a hyper competitive guy like steelovsky or others
한방이 재밋는 빌드네요 참고해보겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
시청해 주셔서 감사합니다!
Damn a pro!!
Amazing style and aesthetic 👍🏾
Dude, love your video. I'm been trying to make lighter weigh acs work and this inspired me. I'll share one possibly useless thing I found. If you jump while moving you will not go as high as if you stop inputing direction when you jump. Would be interested to see if you think that has any application in pvp.
If your enemy flies or jumps a lot, try to match them by jumping yourself too. Otherwise, I like being close to the ground since I want that sweet sweet EN Recharge to kick in ASAP.
Jumping is fine while moving.
@@thegoat4314 what I was saying is you get roughly a 15% increase in jump height if you just don't input movement when you hit jump. Might be usefull especially on reverse joint since it's percentage based.
Playing the campaign, the NPCs pull maneuvers that seem impossible for the player.
After some examination, I think it might be just assault boost using boost turn to change facing.
Any thoughts?
Any
NPCs are hard-coded to dodge inputs. They seem to have a cooldown on it however and can't spam it, so if you fake out a dodge once, they will eat the second hit guaranteed most of the time.
Hi, I just discovered your channel.
Have you experimented with laser daggers before? Would love to see them in some competitive gameplay too.
I thought your style would benefit from it alot since daggers have exceptional cooling (you can practically constantly reuse them)
I will have to try it sometime! I might go labbing and make more builds, maybe compile them all for a video, kind of a tier list of sorts.
Damn, I’m feeling bad for Oro. Dude is just sharing what he enjoys while playing this game and some people loathe this dude just because he shared a build (It’s quite weird why Oro became a hotspot for hate when his zimmerman build video isn’t exactly huge with the views compared to the other videos that literally has 500k views on Zimmerman build)
I guess that’s thanks to you, Moody for enabling that behavior
its really gross tbh, and they all feel so tough after doing it
well he is oroboro after all. think of it this way, being able to beat *the* oroboro is enough to make some people feel like they're on top of the world, i think that's saying something about oro's influence. and hey, knowing oro, he's probably just gonna shrug it off and laugh. he's one to never take things too seriously anyway, kinda why i like the guy.
Don't take my little mockery as entirely hateful. I like Oro, he is cool, and his builds are cool.
But the game is the game. If I present the title the way I do, the views fork in, and it isn't entirely untrue either.. Again, no hate against Oro, but the game is the game!
it's like his DMB Falchion build from dark souls 1 again
Its not that deep bro. I bet Oro is good sport and might even be flattered.
Awesome video, subscribed. What did you use for generator/fcs? And did you use kikaku or alula?
You can check my first video for the build! I use Alula, they have amazing QB recharge, and decent enough capacity, with good melee thrust. Kikaku is best melee thrust, but everything else sucks on it.
Doing the blade dash cancel with the oscillator sometimes turns the beam invisible. I know its an animation but, but couldn't figure out how to do it consistently 🤔
dang, you are good! i just wanna fight you and do commentary on how i do. I can almost immitate the build but currently i lack the occellot(?) part. you sir, made my day!
Better catch one of my streams then, would love to fight you!
@@CodenameMood please create more melee builds in the future. also, what FCS alternative for the ones that you use to this build, i don't have that atm.
Really love your gameplay! I would appreciate it if you mixed your voice a little louder so we can hear it a little clearer. Keep putting out great PvP content
I hear you! Will manage it better and raise it next video where I talk!
Zimmer is still zimmer
It's unavoidable, we need a patch to nerf it, fast.
This game NEEDS MORE MOOD
Awesome. Subscribed.
Thank you very much, welcome!
Skill beats Gear, same as always.
Oroboro has an absolute warcrime of a build that's a Tank AC running four laser cannons to instakill as soon as he gets a stun. Would love to see you beat it in melee.
That's an warcrime alright. But I think a reverse joint missile build might be able to beat it. It's way too dangerous to get close to that thing, since even laser weapons have a better chance of hitting at close range.
Pilbunker is a way of life!
I'm still new but is pulse better than the laser blade?
Personally, yes. But I will test all the melee weapons out and make a tier list in the future!
the more i look at the first match. it wasn't the zim that did the damage, it was good ol pulse blade and bunker.
Again, we care about the impact more so than the damage. The damage comes with the Pile Bunker doing 8.4k on an ACS overloaded unit.
I can respect this Zimmerman user
@@thegoat4314 Zim is just the helper, it's the melee focus here.
@@CodenameMood Yee that’s why I respect you🫡 I’ll run a build like this tbh
whats the best melee weapon to use for melee cancel?
I'll make a tierlist sometime after testing them all. But for now? Pulse Blade is king.
AND THEN THE GODDAMN FALLING PIPE-
I've been looking for melee players to follow, this is great! Any tips for doing melee against missile boat fliers or wheelchair AC's that run away?
assault boost in and stay as close as possible, never letting them get significant distance, if you use a lightweight build with gill thruster you will always be faster than them
Missile boats are unfortunately a build you lose to 100% of the time unless the guy is braindead. I suggest you check the enemy's build during the lobby before fighting them to avoid a potential unwinnable match.
But, for wheelchairs, try to dash where they are headed, rather than where they are. This will intercept their pathing, and by the time your pulse blade is charged, they will be next to you, eating it for full. (Also, wheelchair builds get ACS Overloaded by Pulse Blade + Zimmerman, they have low stability, so they need at least 2 pile bunkers to die.)
@@Neapolitanicecream1130 Huh, Gill! I'll try that next time I'm doing melee in PVP, I've been sticking to Buerzel and Alula.
@@CodenameMood Thank you!
@@HamstahFwend that quick boost reload time is amazing for staying right up near things and dodging attacks quickly, i found it works best with the aorta but only if you bottom out the energy
Can you bunker piled dual stun gun users?
5:40 my man did a dark souls backstabbed LMAO
Nice catch! Hahah
he is him
this man is himalayan
this man was born in himesburg
I'm him kardashian.
About time someone piled Oro's bunkers
He won't be boosting straight for a few days.
Oroboro was using a super honest build though.
Pile Bunker My Beloved
Melee cancelling is the equivalent of "wave-dashing" in this game XD
Man, that PALADIN AC Oroboro has looks so friggin good. It wins on style at least lol.
Oh yeah, 100%
I'm inspired
The Pile Bunker is such a dope weapon, but I can't land it for shit. lol. I feel like it comes out a bit slow and people usually recover from me breaking their guard faster than I can get it out. Specially when you need to use weapon bay to pull it out from your shoulder.
Switch to the bunker before you do your zimmerman shot that breaks their stagger. Swapping weqpons is the majority of the delay, and many weapons wing animations cannot true combo into it, which iw why you always set up with the zimm shot
Can’t wait to vs you in pvp 🩳🧑🏭
yeah i do the same thing with the dagger lol
it has a 1.5 second cool down..... so melee cancel + switch weapons = 2 zimmers
Boss, Is it possible to beat the game with only melee?
I bet you it is, just needs a lot of patience and maybe part of your sanity.
Godam this it's Good content 🎉
What shield was oro running?
The Scutum, as I said in the video. Other shields overheat when you hold them too long, and parry in the first 1-2 seconds. His shield is sturdier the longer he holds it and cools off if it's out longer, kind of the opposite logic.
The zig zag dash reminds me of the raven vs raven fight😅
It's pure badassery.
Lmao bro oro getting bullied so much by the community. He has to go on a villain arc, this is the second video I’ve seen, with him as the punching bag
This the 8th for me 😂
It's just for views.
The price of being good, is that you have to defend your throne.
@@CodenameMood
But he wasn’t even bragging he’s top 1 player unlike you. Dude is on a pathetic power fantasy.
Before watching this, thank you for fighting against the meta. Showing that you're more than enough to take on anyone who uses them
A skilled pilot can make up the difference in builds usually. The only meta this build straight up loses against is skybox missile boats, quadrupeds with dual zimmermans that spam kick while being locked on, and the Bumblebee.
@@CodenameMood Like THE Bumblebee? From Transformers?
@mehmeth9773 I know I was about to text "Kidding" but I was busy
@@CodenameMood I was kidding on the Bumblebee one
Why counter assault armor with pulse armor when you can just counter aa with aa
Edit: 5:19 Actually nevermind I see some of its value. Could aa be used in the same way here? Or is the animation longer than pulse armor?
pulse armor counter stunning
AA doesnt erase your stagger, it only prevents a stagger during the animation, one it ends you get crushed on any followups, hence why pulse armor is better as it has aggressive and defensive properties.
@@Kizen. I personally prefer aa. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just that they can be used in different situations.
For example, if you stagger someone and they aa, you aa back and get a free 2nd stagger. If you wait to use aa until you are staggered, in many situations aa can be better. Pulse armor's benefit is that you can use it preemptively before you get into any scraps, thus winning the stagger war.
In the example he made at 5:12, It looks like his opponent could have countered his pulse armor and gotten a free 2nd stagger if he was quicker to follow up with aa. This is the reason why I like aa more personally, since I am a melee player and find myself in these situations way too often.
@@poimaster Again, being staggered and then using AA does not reset your stagger. You simply set it to full stagger -1 point of ACS strain, resulting in ANY hit after assault armor causing you to be staggered. This is seriously bad against an opponent who properly times pulse armor because you will definitely die for it.
Pulse armor is in-fact better, you can use it defensively and offensively and it hard resets stagger and increases total E-AP (effective AP)
The only reason AA is good is against someone who already used their expansion slot, because it can then result in heavier punishes and keep the offense on your turn provided the enemy doesn't know you have assault armor and doesn't predict it. AA is a surprise attack that very rarely wins you fights more than once.
@@Kizen. Where did you get the idea that using aa after stagger doesn't reset stagger? Your stagger is already reset to 0 after you stagger regardless. I use it all the time defensively and drop to 0 stagger afterwards, and it is designed to intercept projectiles during the window where you are most vulnerable.
I’ve started maining your setup and it’s a lot of fun, also a lot of malding in some cases with people. You have any other recommendations for cool builds or someway to contact you for build tips/ideas?
Add codenamemood on Discord, I have a server that I'll plug on my next video.
@@CodenameMoodadded
Fight Geenine. He thinks all fast bois are trash
He plays nothing but mega meta, kick-spam dual zimmerman quads are a build mine loses to 100% of the time since it's 0 skill brainrot.
Call Geenine, tell him to play my build, watch him go 0-50 with an actually skilled build.
@@CodenameMoodI wanna see that 🔥🔥🔥
@@CodenameMood thats like saying play basketball with only left hand cause i am left handed LOL. Lame.
@@cyrusboon2842 I am playing basketball, he is sitting on a crane and dunking balls from an easy spot, and getting a big head about it.
Don't compare us.
"Getting his bunker piled" is my new favorite euphemism! 😂 And I'm gonna steal that shit and not care at all when nobody gets the reference IRL... I'll probably fuck it up and say "pile bunked" lmao
Made that mistake too many times himself, hahah. It's a great innuendo too. "In Depth" has two meanings here.
I'd love to see you fight JeeNiNe next!
oro blames the zimmer too much that piloting and feinting was smooth
He wouldn't understand the skill from his POV, his eyes are glued to the Zimmer PTSD
@@CodenameMood I'm working on my feint and you make it look easy very smooth oro is a goober
@@bootysalad Take this as hidden insider info, but I'll be making a more detailed movement guide today. If all goes well, it will be uploaded today too.
@@CodenameMood my man 🤝
good commentary
Thank you very much!
@@CodenameMood very helpful please continue
I feel like dual zimmerman builds are so one-dimensional it's not even fun-
Like, you could pair a haldeman to make shots feel more erratic and keep pressuring on the ACS, I feel like the Zimmerman shoots too slow for it to be so reliable anyway.
That ACS strain per shot should be nerfed a bit though, it's really fucking crazy
Also, this clears up some important things. I felt like switching from melee to second melee felt awkward as hell, and I can now see it's not how it is supposed to be. Good to know
Never forget getting lanced from 150 away friend. 😉
I want to see people destroying JeeNiNe. Then it’s a real build.
JeeNiNe is just a full meta abuser that only has a focus on what's really good. If he played my build, he'd go 0-50 since his brain has rotted from meta abuse so much he probably could not pilot a skilled AC.
Honestly after watching the vid and going through this comment section, I’ll be actively avoiding your content in the future.
I’m more of a Saint_Riot stan, but I will say this: JeeNine is a real competitor. He plays to win by any means. He’s not going to hold himself back from using the strongest strategies because that’s stupid as hell if what you care about is winning. Just like in literally every sport.
When you criticize him for that you come across as deluded and self-aggrandizing. Honestly, you sound just like him. Except he actually has the history and results to back up his attitude.
Cheers, I hope I’m wrong.
A video to show that you beat a youtuber with a meta build when the youtuber was testing things, good for you.
The point of the video wasn't ego-boasting, even told people to go follow Oroboro after the fact. But sure, keep hatin'
found you@@CodenameMood
czcams.com/video/Y5O3C84fy5U/video.htmlsi=Xubp97-_Q-KogpHA
first the Bumblebee, now this… poor Oroboro😂
It's a tragic fate.
"Meta Builder" Bully time
I'm gonna try this build but with the chainsaw over the pile bunker. It'll definitely be worse. But funnier.
Good luck brother!
lmao bruh not the pipes at the end 😂
HAD TO DO IT
Oh holy shit, silver lining - i remember having a few matches with you, very fun fights
GGs!
Now you gotta beat myndrr free aim build, good luck landing a pile bunker free aim.
Jokes on you, the lock on returns when you get close enough within smoke, so melee thrives against it.
holy crap I made the SAME kind of build wild. I am using the coral blade and I am using BASHO frame with MIND BETA head. I am not even 10% as good at it as you. I am so glad to see someone can make it work. I use the coral generator to burst attack then run away and intentionally overload my generator to get 100% back instantly. I run massively under energy for a super high supply regen. One thing I tried to do rather than have a second blade is run a coral shield shoulder and a zimmer on the other shoulder. I can punch instead of a blade.
Here is the alt version I would love to know if you think it's viable.
EPYWQTJWRW4M
THANK YOU
Coral Oscillator's basic slash (the non-charged long blade one) can be dashed out of as well, I am pretty certain of it. Your build seems more optimized for PVP stat wise, but again, it's all about the pilot's own skill!
I have a ton of practice with my build, so I know all it's nuances, which is what makes me lethal. Your build is alright, just needs some more practice!
You can also counter that zimmerman meta with 2 shoulder rocket grenade launchers a chainsaw and your fists 🤣
Mahmoud how are you?
Youst wow, you are very good at melee builds that for sure. Ive played it slot and it feels like i kinda have to try your build. So many other builds counters melee builds its starting to get annoying.
Im corrected from yesterday, you are a beast.
Oroboro aint the best AC player tho i bet, remember thst his skills in DS3 never reached the guys that are gods at the game.
I'm sure you already know but if you start the match with your shotgun on your right hanger, you can switch between it and your fist. IF you srat with the shotgun in your right hand, then you cannot switch.
I'm aware. The punch is far too unreliable and leaves you open due to it's long and drawn out animation unfortunately.
@@CodenameMood I see, makes sense. Alas, I have not done much pvp and have mostly just used it in pve as a way to kill a little extrat stagger and positioning. =(
0:12 how did you know?
Secret NewType powers.
I've subscribe!!! If you can upload stream highlight or just stream archive, I would be really grateful!
Because twitch was never a good video-hosting site for me, and I've never been able to catch any stream.
I'll see what I can do about it!
Let’s start a merc group or clan for armored core !
That'd be cool! Will look into it if I grow more.