You cannot educate "know nothings" who think they know everything. You let them live their lives in their own blissfully ignorant unsuccessful lives, jealous of those who have contributed to the art in ways that ignorance will never understand.
She was more than 65. She was actually 4 months shy of 67. She recorded Adriana’s music 15 years later, with a voice as strong and firm as it is here. No wobble in THIS voice. Ever.
We who attended NJ State Opera performances during the last quarter of the 20th century were fortunate to hear fine artists like Maliponte, Olivero, Albanese and even Nilsson. They were often fairly long into their careers, but, artistically strong and exemplary. Maliponte had one of her very few outings as Butterfly, which was incredible- the Met never staged it for her. NJ state Opera really served the NY/NJ opera public well.
Nessuna come lei in MEFISTOFELE.... LA SUA PRESENZA SCENICA.... LA VOCE MAGNETICA .... IMPERIOSA E SUBLIME, DI UNA ESTENSIONE CHE SOLO LA CALLAS NEI MOMENTI MIGLIORI SI AVVICINA A QUELLA DI MAGDA, MA MAGDA QUESTA GRANDE VOCE L'HA ESIBITA PIENAMENTE ANCHE AD 80 ANNI.... NESSUNA MAI COME LEI.🙏🙏🙏
Non credo che la Callas si avvicina a tratti...forse il contrario, ma Olivero molto scomposta sempre pur non negandogli grande presenza e carisma e non importa quanti anni hai di carriera o se canti a 120 anni.
WOW!!! PHENOMENAL!!! One thing I've noticed that Olivero and Callas had in common (which others don't seem to have) is the uncanny ability to use the very flaws in their own voices to bring out the drama even more! Absolutely amazing!
What incredible diva Magda Olivero was! Hear her AT 65, and how "vivid" her performance is, we don´t need to see so much, beyond her magistral use of the voice, hearing her is enough to understand the dramatic plot Marvolous!
i did not always value Olivero either, but one day I heard wth my entire heart, how she was singing Liu, and I understood part of the opera that I never had before. She made her voice wilt like a broken flower under torture, and then rise like a blossoming angel as she sang of love for her Calaf. The heart or her Liu was so big that she even loved the princess and sang as if she would bless them from heaven. A rare and most real vision for the opera. She happy in heaven, they happy on earth.
Wow, this is truly stunning! What sublime artistry and deep involvement in this tragic heroine! And at 67! OTHERWORLDLY! And more surprisingly, Olivero is still with us, almost aged 100, and is A LIVING LEGEND!
Che la sua voce possa cantare in paradiso!!!!! con Ammirazione e devozione e rispetto. Addio Grande!!!!! Riposa in pace con il Signore. Piero Giuliacci.
Heartbreaking and dramatic performance! I came across recording of 96 y.o Magda Olivero singing Panis Angelicus and she sounded pure and steady. Some unexplained natural phenomenon. But it doesn’t mean every singer should follow her musical longevity
Bravissima!!!... esto es cantar señores, su voz no era la más bella (como la de Tebaldi) pero era la de la técnica más formidable y ruda de todas... ❤️
Mil gracias por compartir este documento historico de arte performado en vivo. Que este artista tan grande todovia estuva ella cantando cuando ya en sus anos oros me da esperanza que humanidad puede sucedere arriba los caracteres bajos y alcancar lo bella y buena.
@enrig In Olivero's day, all singers had different sound and style. You could tell who was singing within three or four notes. In the same way you could tell always Peggy Lee from Rosemary Clooney now matter what song. It was a living art, with living artists who moved and compelled people with passion and insight. Opera was theater, and the singers delivered theater with all its varieties of interpretation. When that is gone, so is technique. Technique without an artistic end is merely skill.
Ritorno sempre a guardare e ascoltare questo favoloso documento sulla Divina Magda Olivero...è semplicemente incredible! A pensare che oggi moltissimi cantantani che vengono definiti le grandi Star della lirica sono vocalmente già "spompati" attorno ai 40 anni se non già prima...
Leggo sempre di troppe divine...la Divina e' una sola...le altre sono solo succedanee, come la Garbo. Una e basta. Come un erede al trono o un titolo nobiliare, lo porta solo uno e non 10.
@@fabriziogarzi9892 Ognuno la sua...io sono dal parere che ci sono più grandissimi e indimenticabili interpreti...ognuno di loro con i suoi pregi e difetti e con i suoi personali cavalli di battaglia...
I suppose one should have been already accustomed to similar behaviour but it's never easy to accept this old story of empty judgements from people that obviously don't have a clue about the musical theatre and the impact of a great artist. Thoroughly supporting Twisterjoe: celebrate and learn. Magda Olivero is about to turn her 100 on March 25.
She has passion, she was an artist this are the ones who makes you look back about your life and feel all the world at the same time, in sit in one aria you live more than that all day itself
Truly a treasure of a film, especially for us who have never seen/heard her live--due to artistic managers of opera houses who did not recognize her importance.
@TheseusTex This aria has been a favorite of mine for most of my life. I loved the melody the first time I heard it. I am not sure how dramatic a two verse aria really can be within the structure of an opera, and I have never seen this one, but I know that I love to hear it. I can hardly believe that Aprile's debuts were so long ago already.
@@Tkimba2 Il Fluimucil antibiotico per inalazioni fa miracoli per i bronchi malandati. Già al primo giorno la tosse scompare miracolosamente. Meglio ancora se al tempo stesso si ascolta Magda Olivero.
@enrigoletto not believing in divinity will leave one unable to ever understand the higher levels of art achieved by a certain class of great artists. Not believing in divinity creates people who criticize how an artist holds their brush, or how perfectly or not they replicate a vase of flowers, but closes them to the power of the vision that the artist is trying to unveil.
@enrigoletto I teach in the arts, though mostly in dance. One of my guiding principles is that technique, by definition is a "how" to accomplish. When it is valued alone, it sterilizes art, and becomes a pedantic measure. For a singer, as in most arts that use the body, technique serves two major purposes: accomplish the material with enough skill that artistic nuance is available to you, and keep the body safe while doing that to accomplish longevity. Glottal attacks and scoops are style often.
Wow!!! What a great artist. I've listened to very little Olivero, but have always heard of her legend as an incredible singing actress. Now I get it. I've got some catching up to do.
Excuse me, would you happen to have her performances from Dallas (Medea and Fedora with Bruno Prevedi), I think from 1969 or so? I would really appreciate it if you happened to be able to post it.
that I can understand. Her instrument itself is distinctive enough that it can provoke opinions. I myself have never been able to enjoy the voice of Victoria de los Angeles, and yet so many are driven to ecstasy by her. Nails on a chalkboard for me. Who do you enjoy?
@Twisterjoe I agree with everything you've said. The "touch" of the great artists of the past is something that thrills me everytime. And for sure Olivero had her style. But still I can't avoid hearing her lack of intonation, the tremble of her voice, the lack of homogeneity, the poorness of her volume in the repertoire she used to sing etc. So I understand that someone may love her (I like a lot Di Stefano, for example, who wasn't perfect), but to affirm that she had a perfect technique...
@enrigoletto Esatto!!! As much as I appreciate her artistry (and the "messa di voce" on the high C's) in "Sempre Libera" here on youtube, I couldn't figure out why the roulades were not clean. They are not in actuality difficult to do, when one practices them enough. But I did have some thoughts about the use of her voice, which was led in a verismo direction rather than bel canto. Callas did both. I don't remember recordings of Olivero doing Bellini or Donizetti, although they may exist.
@enrigoletto Many great artists in the past practiced the style of their day, and used the technique necessary to fulfill that style. Often they are evaluated for technique on issues that I perceive as style. Great "technicians" in any art are like great technicians in painting that are disrespected if they have nothing to say with their work. Great artists have always placed technique in its proper place, as a means to an end. Her style remained unchanged all her life. Inimitable, it was hers.
I've owned this rare and special video since 2002. I decided that I would make it public the day Magda finally went to her rest. She will be 100 on March 25th. and thank goodness she is still going strong, bless her heart.
Ho letto alcuni dei commenti che hanno preceduto il mio e leggo robe allucinanti del tipo: "mancanza di intonazione"...ma voi cosa avete ascoltato? Siate onesti, la Olivero è inattaccabile. Chi teneva i fiati lunghi come i suoi e faceva veramente i ppp scritti, anche in acuto? Cn questo Mefistofele, a 65 anni, ha dimostrato di essere stata un grandissimo soprano, insostituibile. Inoltre, ricordo a tutti che la Olivero ebbe l'enorme fortuna di preparare proprio il ruolo di Margherita con Tatiana Pavlova.
@Twisterjoe Boo. You made many good comments, but it is stupid to think one needs to believe in god or divinity or the supernatural in order to feel art at the depth of your being. It is humanity that is expressed in great art. We, as humans, are amazing. More amazing than we can yet comprehend. We have an incredible ability to empathize and relate to each other on profound levels. This is art to me. Not magic in the sky.
Fue la mejor cantante-actriz que ha dado la ópera, por encima de la Callas. Además demostró tener una de las mejores técnicas vocales que han existido, le permitió cantar hasta los 90 años. Sus reguladores ponen la piel de gallina y hacen saltar las lágrimas. Su "ma perché non sono morta" de la Risurrezione de Alfano, me duele en el alma cada vez que lo escucho.
@TheseusTex to which comment are you referring? I do not recall suggesting that someone needed religion to understand the arts, I looked through them to find what you might have meant, but cannot. I very seldom express my spiritual feelings except to close friends, and your analysis above would not apply to what I believe or teach in the arts.
@Twisterjoe Got it. Sorry. I guess I still don't understand that comment, but in general, I think we are on the same page. And, technically, I didn't call you stupid. I said "it is stupid to believe..." which you don't believe, ergo, you are not stupid! :-) in any case, this video is definitely sublime! I love this aria so much. Got to see Aprile sing it live last year at Lincoln center. It was breathtaking, and strange, but still amazing.
@TheseusTex I found it. Divinity. I consider that a much more loose term than religious, but what ever we consider to be divine at high levels if ideal. Divine is an applied term for me, not an inherent one in which magic or supernatural are implied. Divine chocolate brownies are fine for me, but cooking with such an ideal in mind is how growth often comes. For me, that wonderful empathetic power is divine, but has no relationship to religion or even spirituality.
What a disrespectful attitude regarding the opportunity to see what remains of a style and artistry from the generations that knew the composers. Finding fault in life is always easy. To celebrate what is good and can be learned from in any situation is a better path to choose. She offers a great deal. When Alicia Alonso danced Giselle in her 50s people noticed that she could not do everything as well as when she was 20, but they were grateful for the opportunity to see an artistry matured.
OLIVERO....CALLAS.....TEBALDI.........GENCER.....FRENI.....MAGDA OLIVERO, le ha superate tutte per tecnica di canto....per estensione.... per interpretazione.....e sopratutto per la eccezzionale longevità della sua carriera..... capace di esordire al METROPOLITAN, con TOSCA, a 69 anni, avendo come partner PAVAROTTI.... sfoderando una voce formidabile, tanto da avere un successo acclamato a scena aperta clamoroso.... MAGDA OLIVERO è senza dubbio tra i grandi della lirica di tutti i tempi.🙏🙏🙏
@Twisterjoe My dear, I understand perfectly what you're saying. I understand also who loves Olivero's interpretations. It's a matter of taste. What I don't understand is the ones who admire without any doubts her technique! Many people says that she is technically unbeatable! This is what I don't agree. And while there are no arguments against taste (luckily!), there are a lot if you talk about vocal technique.
I don't teach to anyone, I think that now maybe it's a bit to late for her to change technique ;) My answer anyway is no, noone is able to correct by himself his weaknesses, at least not always. Sing like that? Except for the drama that she puts, unique, tell me what is so impossible to obtain for any other singer today, yesterday and tomorrow. I don't believe in divinity, I see the facts, and use my ears. But won't go on discussing with someone who's in love. Who cares about live or studio...
@TheseusTex you could substitute "sublime" for the word "divine" above, and it would probably be more accurate than what I wrote. Please do not call me stupid without talking to me first, because you may have misunderstood. Divine is a word that is not owned by religion or spirituality, and I refuse to allow words that speak of things intangible, yet beautiful, to belong only to religion. I use those words, but do not mean religion. I hope that helps clear up for you what I think.
...please see my channel : i met her in the early 90ies in her apartment in milano ! she let me in as a fan. known from letters i wrote !!! i am so proud, to know this diva !!! thank you, GOD ! LES from berlin/germany
@robertdonkers Well, she didn't sing with continuity for 60 years, and anyway lasting doesn't mean every time having a perfect technique. Olivero's technique was, in my opinion, uncorrect, but not necessarily dangerous for her. I know that she's admired by many people, but I simply don't agree. And in particular I think also Schwartzkopf had a poor technique ;)
Yes that is definitely Olivero singing. The vibrato you refer to always sounded less evident in the theatre than in those early recordings. In fact her later recordings with better studio techniques didn't exaggerate it so much. This is a sensational moment of singing and shows how truly great she could be.
I'm really speechless with some comments here. This enormous artist sings at her 65 BETTER THAN MANY OTHERS at their 20s...
You cannot educate "know nothings" who think they know everything. You let them live their lives in their own blissfully ignorant unsuccessful lives, jealous of those who have contributed to the art in ways that ignorance will never understand.
She was more than 65. She was actually 4 months shy of 67. She recorded Adriana’s music 15 years later, with a voice as strong and firm as it is here. No wobble in THIS voice. Ever.
I actually saw this performance live in Newark NJ. Fantastic performance. Magda Olivero was double fantastic.
We who attended NJ State Opera performances during the last quarter of the 20th century were fortunate to hear fine artists like Maliponte, Olivero, Albanese and even Nilsson. They were often fairly long into their careers, but, artistically strong and exemplary. Maliponte had one of her very few outings as Butterfly, which was incredible- the Met never staged it for her. NJ state Opera really served the NY/NJ opera public well.
OMG!!!!!
I've to say: "Ecco un'artista!"
Nessuna come lei in MEFISTOFELE.... LA SUA PRESENZA SCENICA.... LA VOCE MAGNETICA .... IMPERIOSA E SUBLIME, DI UNA ESTENSIONE CHE SOLO LA CALLAS NEI MOMENTI MIGLIORI SI AVVICINA A QUELLA DI MAGDA, MA MAGDA QUESTA GRANDE VOCE L'HA ESIBITA PIENAMENTE ANCHE AD 80 ANNI.... NESSUNA MAI COME LEI.🙏🙏🙏
Non credo che la Callas si avvicina a tratti...forse il contrario, ma Olivero molto scomposta sempre pur non negandogli grande presenza e carisma e non importa quanti anni hai di carriera o se canti a 120 anni.
WOW!!! PHENOMENAL!!! One thing I've noticed that Olivero and Callas had in common (which others don't seem to have) is the uncanny ability to use the very flaws in their own voices to bring out the drama even more! Absolutely amazing!
Mamma mia, a 66 anni è riuscita a dare questa interpretazione.
Senza parole!
Grazie Magda.
Più la vedo e ascolto, più cresce la mia ammirazione. Personalità, donna autenticamente eccezionale.
What incredible diva Magda Olivero was! Hear her AT 65, and how "vivid" her performance is, we don´t need to see so much, beyond her magistral use of the voice, hearing her is enough to understand the dramatic plot Marvolous!
i did not always value Olivero either, but one day I heard wth my entire heart, how she was singing Liu, and I understood part of the opera that I never had before. She made her voice wilt like a broken flower under torture, and then rise like a blossoming angel as she sang of love for her Calaf. The heart or her Liu was so big that she even loved the princess and sang as if she would bless them from heaven. A rare and most real vision for the opera. She happy in heaven, they happy on earth.
Wow, this is truly stunning! What sublime artistry and deep involvement in this tragic heroine! And at 67! OTHERWORLDLY! And more surprisingly, Olivero is still with us, almost aged 100, and is A LIVING LEGEND!
Che potenza,che voce stupenda e micidiale !!! Meravigliosa ed intensa!!
IMPRESSIONANTE! UNA VALANGA DI VOCE! UN PORTENTO!!!
Che la sua voce possa cantare in paradiso!!!!!
con Ammirazione e devozione e rispetto.
Addio Grande!!!!!
Riposa in pace con il Signore.
Piero Giuliacci.
profoundly beautiful. she was truly a mystic in the opera house. thank you for posting.
Vi rendete conto? 65 anni così! Bisognerebbe riflettere sulla presunzione imperante tra le nostre donne patinate (e spesso gonfiate).
Heartbreaking and dramatic performance! I came across recording of 96 y.o Magda Olivero singing Panis Angelicus and she sounded pure and steady. Some unexplained natural phenomenon. But it doesn’t mean every singer should follow her musical longevity
Bravissima!!!... esto es cantar señores, su voz no era la más bella (como la de Tebaldi) pero era la de la técnica más formidable y ruda de todas... ❤️
Brava Magda! Gracias por tantos momentos de su ARTE SUPERLATIVO!!!!
Astounding at 65 years of age! Wow!
Sensacional artist!!!
Happy Birthday at 100 years of age to the ageless Magda Olivero, born March 25, 1910.
Sublime, Desgarradora, Insuperable Artista.
Grazie per la gioia che ci hai dato, non ti dimenticheremo mai.
World champion! Incredible singer and actor ! Many thanks for posting this clip. It puts the entire history of opera into different light.
Her time will come!
Mil gracias por compartir este documento historico de arte performado en vivo. Que este artista tan grande todovia estuva ella cantando cuando ya en sus anos oros me da esperanza que humanidad puede sucedere arriba los caracteres bajos y alcancar lo bella y buena.
Love a bit of Boito.
Magda: di una grandezza infinita! Davanti alla sua ARTE io mi posso solo inchinare. Infinitamente grande
straordinaria. Non c'è altro da dire!!!Grazie
Hay momentos para los cuales no alcanzan las palabras, este es uno de ellos!!!
@enrig In Olivero's day, all singers had different sound and style. You could tell who was singing within three or four notes. In the same way you could tell always Peggy Lee from Rosemary Clooney now matter what song. It was a living art, with living artists who moved and compelled people with passion and insight. Opera was theater, and the singers delivered theater with all its varieties of interpretation. When that is gone, so is technique. Technique without an artistic end is merely skill.
this NEEDS to be released!
WOW!
Unbelievable. Rare indeed.
I adore the voice and it is captured here perhaps better than I have ever heard it if you know what I mean. Thanks.
Bravissima. No words. Impeccable versmo diva, ever.
Stunningly good - thank you!
unica, emozionante. Grazie Magda.
Chills every time I listen to this, thank you so much!!!
Brava!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! An incredible performance!
MAGDA OLIVERO
in questa recita del "Mefistofele" Boito
la Oliviero è una
sessantacinquenne Margherita.
grande Magda!
I too am just amazed by this film of Olivero--precious and rare document of why on stage she could totally involve the audience in her performance.
Ritorno sempre a guardare e ascoltare questo favoloso documento sulla Divina Magda Olivero...è semplicemente incredible! A pensare che oggi moltissimi cantantani che vengono definiti le grandi Star della lirica sono vocalmente già "spompati" attorno ai 40 anni se non già prima...
Leggo sempre di troppe divine...la Divina e' una sola...le altre sono solo succedanee, come la Garbo. Una e basta. Come un erede al trono o un titolo nobiliare, lo porta solo uno e non 10.
@@fabriziogarzi9892 Ognuno la sua...io sono dal parere che ci sono più grandissimi e indimenticabili interpreti...ognuno di loro con i suoi pregi e difetti e con i suoi personali cavalli di battaglia...
Magda Olivero porte le vecteur spirituel de la musique aux sensations les plus hautes de l'emotion "hors de la raison".
that is majestic and awesome!
Brava!!!!!
I suppose one should have been already accustomed to similar behaviour but it's never easy to accept this old story of empty judgements from people that obviously don't have a clue about the musical theatre and the impact of a great artist.
Thoroughly supporting Twisterjoe: celebrate and learn. Magda Olivero is about to turn her 100 on March 25.
She has passion, she was an artist this are the ones who makes you look back about your life and feel all the world at the same time, in sit in one aria you live more than that all day itself
Truly a treasure of a film, especially for us who have never seen/heard her live--due to artistic managers of opera houses who did not recognize her importance.
Unequaled in this role, just Magnificent.
Apart being unable to sing two trills, she is incredible. Most 30 year old would be so lucky to sing as well as she does here at 65.
Really fabulous!
Mind blowing!
Would be lovely to see a complete video of this performance. We miss her so much.
@TheseusTex This aria has been a favorite of mine for most of my life. I loved the melody the first time I heard it. I am not sure how dramatic a two verse aria really can be within the structure of an opera, and I have never seen this one, but I know that I love to hear it. I can hardly believe that Aprile's debuts were so long ago already.
Straordinaria, grandiosa, unica.
Prodigiosa!!! Meravigliosa!!! Geniale!!!
L'unica che poteva dirsi allo stesso livello della Callas, sia come canto che come presenza scenica e recitazione.
(colpo di tosse)...
@@Tkimba2 Il Fluimucil antibiotico per inalazioni fa miracoli per i bronchi malandati. Già al primo giorno la tosse scompare miracolosamente. Meglio ancora se al tempo stesso si ascolta Magda Olivero.
Amazing!
Amazing for ever!!!
...thanks for this !!! LES
Wonderful.....❤
Grandissima la Olivero!!!!
@enrigoletto not believing in divinity will leave one unable to ever understand the higher levels of art achieved by a certain class of great artists. Not believing in divinity creates people who criticize how an artist holds their brush, or how perfectly or not they replicate a vase of flowers, but closes them to the power of the vision that the artist is trying to unveil.
Mio cugino Oliviero Mario Cerrini chitarrista di fama internazionale si chiama cosi'perche' la madre Laura sopranoha studiato canto con Lei
unbelievable and astounding.Please post any more if you have it
GENIALE, DIVINA
Geniale!
Come Riccardo Barreca più la ascolto e più mi piace
@enrigoletto I teach in the arts, though mostly in dance. One of my guiding principles is that technique, by definition is a "how" to accomplish. When it is valued alone, it sterilizes art, and becomes a pedantic measure. For a singer, as in most arts that use the body, technique serves two major purposes: accomplish the material with enough skill that artistic nuance is available to you, and keep the body safe while doing that to accomplish longevity. Glottal attacks and scoops are style often.
Wow!!! What a great artist. I've listened to very little Olivero, but have always heard of her legend as an incredible singing actress. Now I get it.
I've got some catching up to do.
non c'è niente da dire. unica aldilà di qualsiasi commento.
mamma mia!
Excuse me, would you happen to have her performances from Dallas (Medea and Fedora with Bruno Prevedi), I think from 1969 or so? I would really appreciate it if you happened to be able to post it.
that I can understand. Her instrument itself is distinctive enough that it can provoke opinions. I myself have never been able to enjoy the voice of Victoria de los Angeles, and yet so many are driven to ecstasy by her. Nails on a chalkboard for me.
Who do you enjoy?
@Twisterjoe I agree with everything you've said. The "touch" of the great artists of the past is something that thrills me everytime. And for sure Olivero had her style. But still I can't avoid hearing her lack of intonation, the tremble of her voice, the lack of homogeneity, the poorness of her volume in the repertoire she used to sing etc. So I understand that someone may love her (I like a lot Di Stefano, for example, who wasn't perfect), but to affirm that she had a perfect technique...
Where is your video darling.
@@josephhapp9 Where's your point?
@Twisterjoe WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@enrigoletto Esatto!!! As much as I appreciate her artistry (and the "messa di voce" on the high C's) in "Sempre Libera" here on youtube, I couldn't figure out why the roulades were not clean. They are not in actuality difficult to do, when one practices them enough. But I did have some thoughts about the use of her voice, which was led in a verismo direction rather than bel canto. Callas did both. I don't remember recordings of Olivero doing Bellini or Donizetti, although they may exist.
@enrigoletto I appreciate how kindly you answered me, and i hope my debate has not been disrespectful. I share my thoughts freely regarding art.
@enrigoletto Many great artists in the past practiced the style of their day, and used the technique necessary to fulfill that style. Often they are evaluated for technique on issues that I perceive as style. Great "technicians" in any art are like great technicians in painting that are disrespected if they have nothing to say with their work. Great artists have always placed technique in its proper place, as a means to an end. Her style remained unchanged all her life. Inimitable, it was hers.
I've owned this rare and special video since 2002. I decided that I would make it public the day Magda finally went to her rest. She will be 100 on March 25th. and thank goodness she is still going strong, bless her heart.
Um.uh, what do you mean you "owned" this video. I videotaped this and I've made"all" my tapes "public'.
I'm glad you think you "owned" this. I was the one who schlepped my equiptment to N. Jersey to tape this wonderful performance. Thank you, Uncle Louie
Ho letto alcuni dei commenti che hanno preceduto il mio e leggo robe allucinanti del tipo: "mancanza di intonazione"...ma voi cosa avete ascoltato? Siate onesti, la Olivero è inattaccabile. Chi teneva i fiati lunghi come i suoi e faceva veramente i ppp scritti, anche in acuto? Cn questo Mefistofele, a 65 anni, ha dimostrato di essere stata un grandissimo soprano, insostituibile. Inoltre, ricordo a tutti che la Olivero ebbe l'enorme fortuna di preparare proprio il ruolo di Margherita con Tatiana Pavlova.
@Twisterjoe Boo. You made many good comments, but it is stupid to think one needs to believe in god or divinity or the supernatural in order to feel art at the depth of your being. It is humanity that is expressed in great art. We, as humans, are amazing. More amazing than we can yet comprehend. We have an incredible ability to empathize and relate to each other on profound levels. This is art to me. Not magic in the sky.
Thanks for sharing this treasure with us (including the idiots who think themselves savants).
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get it???
Fue la mejor cantante-actriz que ha dado la ópera, por encima de la Callas. Además demostró tener una de las mejores técnicas vocales que han existido, le permitió cantar hasta los 90 años. Sus reguladores ponen la piel de gallina y hacen saltar las lágrimas. Su "ma perché non sono morta" de la Risurrezione de Alfano, me duele en el alma cada vez que lo escucho.
ASTOUNDING!!!!!
@TheseusTex to which comment are you referring? I do not recall suggesting that someone needed religion to understand the arts, I looked through them to find what you might have meant, but cannot.
I very seldom express my spiritual feelings except to close friends, and your analysis above would not apply to what I believe or teach in the arts.
@Twisterjoe Got it. Sorry. I guess I still don't understand that comment, but in general, I think we are on the same page. And, technically, I didn't call you stupid. I said "it is stupid to believe..." which you don't believe, ergo, you are not stupid! :-) in any case, this video is definitely sublime! I love this aria so much. Got to see Aprile sing it live last year at Lincoln center. It was breathtaking, and strange, but still amazing.
@enrigoletto if she hadn't had technique she would not sing this at 66 after a career like hers!
@TheseusTex I found it. Divinity. I consider that a much more loose term than religious, but what ever we consider to be divine at high levels if ideal. Divine is an applied term for me, not an inherent one in which magic or supernatural are implied. Divine chocolate brownies are fine for me, but cooking with such an ideal in mind is how growth often comes. For me, that wonderful empathetic power is divine, but has no relationship to religion or even spirituality.
What a disrespectful attitude regarding the opportunity to see what remains of a style and artistry from the generations that knew the composers. Finding fault in life is always easy. To celebrate what is good and can be learned from in any situation is a better path to choose. She offers a great deal. When Alicia Alonso danced Giselle in her 50s people noticed that she could not do everything as well as when she was 20, but they were grateful for the opportunity to see an artistry matured.
OLIVERO....CALLAS.....TEBALDI.........GENCER.....FRENI.....MAGDA OLIVERO, le ha superate tutte per tecnica di canto....per estensione.... per interpretazione.....e sopratutto per la eccezzionale longevità della sua carriera..... capace di esordire al METROPOLITAN, con TOSCA, a 69 anni, avendo come partner PAVAROTTI.... sfoderando una voce formidabile, tanto da avere un successo acclamato a scena aperta clamoroso.... MAGDA OLIVERO è senza dubbio tra i grandi della lirica di tutti i tempi.🙏🙏🙏
@Twisterjoe My dear, I understand perfectly what you're saying. I understand also who loves Olivero's interpretations. It's a matter of taste. What I don't understand is the ones who admire without any doubts her technique! Many people says that she is technically unbeatable! This is what I don't agree. And while there are no arguments against taste (luckily!), there are a lot if you talk about vocal technique.
I don't teach to anyone, I think that now maybe it's a bit to late for her to change technique ;) My answer anyway is no, noone is able to correct by himself his weaknesses, at least not always. Sing like that? Except for the drama that she puts, unique, tell me what is so impossible to obtain for any other singer today, yesterday and tomorrow. I don't believe in divinity, I see the facts, and use my ears. But won't go on discussing with someone who's in love. Who cares about live or studio...
@TheseusTex you could substitute "sublime" for the word "divine" above, and it would probably be more accurate than what I wrote. Please do not call me stupid without talking to me first, because you may have misunderstood. Divine is a word that is not owned by religion or spirituality, and I refuse to allow words that speak of things intangible, yet beautiful, to belong only to religion. I use those words, but do not mean religion. I hope that helps clear up for you what I think.
A gift from God
...please see my channel : i met her in the early 90ies in her apartment in milano ! she let me in as a fan. known from letters i wrote !!! i am so proud, to know this diva !!! thank you, GOD ! LES from berlin/germany
Magda Olivero singing at 99! czcams.com/video/0qQqsyPPRhM/video.html
@robertdonkers Well, she didn't sing with continuity for 60 years, and anyway lasting doesn't mean every time having a perfect technique. Olivero's technique was, in my opinion, uncorrect, but not necessarily dangerous for her. I know that she's admired by many people, but I simply don't agree. And in particular I think also Schwartzkopf had a poor technique ;)
Are you sure that’s Olivero? I don’t hear the pronounced ‘caprino’ she always had.
Yes that is definitely Olivero singing. The vibrato you refer to always sounded less evident in the theatre than in those early recordings. In fact her later recordings with better studio techniques didn't exaggerate it so much. This is a sensational moment of singing and shows how truly great she could be.
I in fact was in the audience at this performance of Mefistofele in Newark NJ. YES! It is Magda Olivero and she was magnificent!