52Pi ice tower cooler VS official active cooler. Raspberry Pi 5
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2023
- Both do a great job cooling a Pi 5 especially with the fan
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The flatter the surface the more the IR-light gets reflected, the less you can messure it. It basically acts as a mirror for IR and you messuring the ceiling.
You can even see the outlines when you move the camera.
For the CPU for example there was an outline on the PCB which should be an indicator for how hot it is at least.
Touching it (rather don't do it xD) will show your finger it is above 60 degrees. But faaaar away from 30 which would be cold to the touch.
It is not just the flatter the surface is. It also depends on the material and color. This is why the more expensive thermal cameras come with an adjustable εr
If you want to compare different components on the PCB, you have to put a (mat) black sticker on the CPU. I will often just use a piece of black electrical insulation tape, that seems to work as well as the "official" stickers that came with my camera
Unfortunately with that first test, the handbrake process had already completed by the time you were doing thermals. You could also see the cores were all inactive.
Edit: another thing to add, you may need to put something (like masking tape) over the CPU before you thermal probe with a laser - this is because the results you get back will be malformed due to light scattering from the mirror finish on the die.
So in essence, the default cooling solution does the job. And it fits in the case too.
Hope they make a low profile Ice Tower like before. I bought the high profile for the Pi 4 and then they came out with the low which is what I originally wanted.
Hi Lee. Thanks for the interesting test. But it seems to me that it will be much more interesting to see the results of testing these same cooling systems under full SoC load. I mean 100% CPU PLUS 100% GPU. This will tell us more about the limits for use with emulators and for working with media.
thanks mate thats the testing i wanted to see
@leepspvideo, in case you were not aware, the thermal camera needs to be calibrated for the emissivity of the surface you are measuring. The CPU being metallic and shiny has a lower emissivity than non metallic matte surfaces.
I recommend to use some 3M Blue painter's tape and apply it on all the components you want to test and repeat the test. Then you should see that the CPU is reading much higher than 28C you measured around 4-5 minute mark in your video.
You take a Bic pen, remove the ink apparatus. Then push the tube on the back nylon nipple and pull on the other side. A trick I learned decades ago. Easy as pie.
With the stock cooler, you are also cooling the ram at the same time as the cpu. With the icecooler, it is only cooling the cpu.
So, you will notice an overall (slightly) higher temperature (especially with the fan off) when cooling all components than just the CPU
Always very good content,Thank you very interesting 🙂
Great video I was waiting for this seems the active cooler is more than enough and it cools everything and is lower profile.... I really don't see were the ice tower would be needed maybe extreme over clocking? I would think it would become unstable before heat would be a problem but I could be wrong .. that being said the ice tower is just awesome its like a mini 212 evo and thats almost worth the 15 dollars in my book
The tower is cooler, heh, looking though 😁
Glossy things don't read well on thermal imaging, I recommend a bit of thermally conductive tape on the cpu
It basically functions as a mirror in the infrared, so he was seeing his ceiling with the sensor.
Kapton, it's handy for many things :)
Thermal cameras can measure shiny surfaces because it reflects IR. If you put some black tape you can get a better measurement.
Could you compare the geekpi box cases against the active cooler, with heatsinks on? and why not, with the active cooler inside as well?
looking forward to it
I bought a Khadas Edge 2 last year and finally got video drivers working correctly with an Armbian distro running off an SSD. Compared to the Pi 4, it flies. Kinda seems like the thermals are the same between the pi 5 and rk3588s with the official khadas cooler. Price-wise, the pi 5 is definitely tempting but I just don't feel compelled now that I have a distro that can pretty much benefit from the pi ecosystem of software. Kinda wonder how the next release of rockchip devices will compare to the pi 5. I'm sure the video drivers would take time to iron out.
When using FLIR camera on a reflective surface the reading will be from the store object being reflected.
Just as if you se red object in a mirror, does indicate that the mirror is red.....
7:10 ...different boot times... possibly the pi on the left wasnt set to boot from USB first (or vice verse), the boot loader version may be different. 👍
Interesting comparison, quick question can you set the fan speed for both?
Yes
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The heat tube cooler working great. If only you could put the heat tube cooler on the other heat sink.
You probably were seeing a cool cpu with the thermal camera because the thermal camera uses IR, and the heat spreader of the cpu is reflective. If you put something non reflective you probably would have seen the real temperature
@leepspvideo I would like to know if transfer speed has been fixed when you do an rsync -ahP from/ to/ On my Pi4, I only get about 50MBs. Could you be so kind and run a test and give the transfer rate?
Good video. However, I would suggest putting a non reflective tape on top of dies. Otherwise, the measurements will be wrong
I guess the CPU cover is aluminium which has very good thermal conductivity, but very very low emissivity so won't be picked up by the IR camera. It's also the reason survival blankets are made from aluminium foil, all of your body's radiant heat is reflected keeping you warm.
I combined the official cooler with the ice tower and added pads for everything, its working fine, but will have to read how I can control the fan!! Want it to run cooler.....
Can you do a video about USB SSD enclosures please? I would like to know if the RPI5 has the same issue as the RPI4 with USB enclosures. The issue where some usb enclosures were incompatible with the RPI4
Thank you
I assume you're talking about the electronics and cable within the enclosure, rather than the enclosure itself. If it's the former then, yes, there do appear to be incompatibility issues, I have seen them myself.
I don't think there's an easy answer other than to keep the connecting cable as short as possible and you might need to use either a powered enclosure or connect it via a powered USB hub.
Those issues do tend be because the RPi PSU can't supply enough power to power both the Pi and any peripherals connected to it simultaneously.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 No, I am talking about the usb issue all RPI4's suffer with. Because they designed the USB part of the RPI badly, There are certain chipsets used in enclosures that are known to be working/not working so not all USB enclosures work. I'm wondering if this has been fixed so they all work now.
On the official pi cooler setup you were testing it has a plastic case bottom limiting air flow to the bottom of the board.
On the ice tower setup the pi was standing on tall legs with lots of air flow under it.
I wonder if the original cooler pi couldn't radiate as much heat away from the bottom of the pcb, and how much this may have adjusted the results?
There was still space, admittedly less
at 3:21 you should redo the measure on the CPU, the metallic surface of the heat spreader gave you bad readings.
The CPU lid wasn't cooler, it's because it has a reflective lid and the IR camera was not reading it correctly. Your IR camera might have different settings for types of surfaces
Perhaps something wrong with the heat spreader contact patch (or your temp reader device) because it stays cool even when the BCM2712 chip underneath getting wayyy hotter. Don't you think?
According to psensor it’s doing it’s job. Others have mentioned reflective surfaces aren’t read as accurately by thermal cameras
@@leepspvideo I read that too but isn't the heat spreader mate instead of glossy and reflective? Perhaps the only easy way to find out for sure is to actually touch the heat spreader to see if it is anywhere near the number (very low temp) given by the temp reader.
Are you able to do a test on how quiet the coolers are?
I've heard the official cooler is fairly loud?
The official cooler is very quiet. Its rpm is controlled via hardware, and the fan doesn't even spin under normal desktop use so silent. When you play CZcams, it might come on, but then only at the lowest speed. This fan fits within the official case, which has vents at the bottom and top for air flow. That would lower and fan noise further. You can't put the ice tower in an official pi case, so you'll hear all the fan noise it creates
It’s not loud at all
So official cooler officially goes down... )))
I think that if you had the GPU streaming, that would run the DMA systems in the processor, and then you will see the CPU temp rise more quickly
More test in future videos
You can tell that the integrated heat spreader, being reflective, doesn't show up properly on IR camera, right?
It’s been mentioned several times
Hi Lee, I have a question please. I am trying to install the sense but it doesn't fit with the active cooler. Any advice how to go about it?
Sense?
@@leepspvideo Sorry , I meant the sense hat.
now do the same test, but plug the fans in, because through out the video, neither cooler had their fans plugged in to the fan header.
🙋
It’s the way I put my pi4 icetower on my pi5
What works better? The thermal pads or the paste?
Paste
CPU paste Vs Thermal Pad. Raspberry Pi 4
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can I use thermal paste with official active cooler?
do i need to remove preinstall thermal pad on this active cooler before applying thermal paste?
You can use thermal paste. You would definitely remove the pads as they are less effective than paste
thanks @@leepspvideo, I will definitely try it
hi brother I purchased an Active Cooler pi 5 and I wanted to know if the fan activates automatically at high temperatures, do I need a script? A thousand thanks
If you are using Raspberry Pi os or my KDE build the fan will come on to cool the Pi when it heats up
@@leepspvideo hi thanks for answering me I use a raspios-bookworm-armhf-full the raspbian one to block us
@@pinobarbareschi6452 play a video at 1080 your fan will soon start up if its working correctly
Ice Tower Cooler out of stock via Amazon link unfortunately.
Bare metal surfaces dont show true ir temps because they reflect light rather than absorb it so the ir image wouldnt show you what was really happening
@4.5 minutes, your cpu was idle is why the temp was near room temp. Look at the meter, 2%.
At least Psensor show the maximum temp reached
What distro are you using and where do we get it?
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@@leepspvideo Yeah I seen that after. Thanks. So how many images did you make?
I need to get used to C or learn how to convert C to F on the fly because I'm so lost 😂😂 100C is boiling, or 212F, and 0C is freezing, or 32F those are the comparisons I have to work with, not the most useful!!
I ordered 1 pi5 from 2 different vendors. On the day of release. I haven’t heard anything from either one. Something is up with these American Vendors.
why do we treat cooling and casing pis so much differently than pcs? 🤣🤣
So which is better… simple question bro
The video explains it all
The official active cooler
Does the official Raspberry Pi case work with the Pi Cooler in this video ?
I didn’t order the new official Pi 5 case
The official Pi 5 case comes with its own fan. If you buy the official RPi cooler, it does fit in the case but you will have to remove the fan that is already in the case. You can just pop that fan out, it is designed to be removable.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 That is cool!
@@FalconWing1813 Yes, it's okay, they've designed the case well - there's even a gap between the sides and the top to allow a bit of airflow. It seems cool enough but I haven't stress-tested it yet.
I was offered a Pi 5 to buy as a priority because I subscribe to the MagPi magazine. It was a surprise when they sent me the email to get one, I was going to wait when they come into supply, probably after Christmas.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Nice! That is cool they gave you that offer!
Not very good comparison because the Pi cooler is dissipating heat from all the components.
It is apples to oranges, but by cooling the cpu neighbouring components won't get as much second hand heat.
Both are fruit at least. 😅
Leepspvideo: ... since I have two 8GB Pi 5's..... The Rest of Us Waiting:
And a 4GB 😳
They’re selling them in Australia, 4gb version only in a kit. PSU, pi5 4gb and a micro sd card. Micro sd card works out to be almost $30au. I can get 32gb fastest micro ssd for $12au.
I can’t believe they’re that desperate for money🤦♂️. I’m holding off till I can buy them as a single unit.
@@-someone-.Sounds like you got the same email I got yesterday. 4gb in a kit with the old spec PSU. Yeah nah I might hold out a bit longer me thinks.
@@cobberdig I didn’t get an email, I just check their site every 6minutes...lol
Also, I didn’t even check the PSU! wtf! What a rip off! I heard the NVME ain’t gonna work with old PSU, what is core elec doin🤦♂️
@@-someone-. I did read on a forum somewhere they are still getting the Australian power supplies approved or something so there's some hold up with it. I imagine if you didn't want to wait or get stuffed about with low quantity of Australian stock maybe just get it all sent from the UK.
To be fair, this video shows a waste of time 😂😂😂