Swapping The Miata From a Getrag 260 to a ZF 5-Speed Transmission
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2020
- FAQ: The original reason I went with the KMiata Getrag 260 kit over the ZF kit was so I could keep the Miata differential, since the Getrag 5-Speed has wider ratios. Now that I'm swapping over to the V8Roadsters Getrag G80 differential, with much taller ratios available (down to 3.23), I wanted to get the ZF 5-speed in there since it's newer, stronger, and shifts better. I went with the 5-Speed over the 6-Speed due to the mounting being easier, the transmission is lighter, much easier to find, and about 1/4 the cost. Also - for those asking about the vibration please watch the last 30 seconds of the video.
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Everyone: Get a ZF
TheCarPassionChannel: NO
2 years later going through transmissions **
TheCarPassionChannel: Ok yall win
There was nothing wrong with the Getrag; and I'd still prefer those ratios. But yes the ZF shifts real nice.
@@TheCarPassionChannel greg its joe from london uk, i really want u to sort this whole vibrarion out as i am in the process of going down the zf route but watching u over the years has frightened the shit out of me. I need to change my box as im running 338.8 at the wheels and just waiting for myb6 speed to go bang.
Did u ever think swap a 6 speed Miata speed trans
still dont know how greg doesnt have a million subscribers this is hands down the best car channel on youtube keep up the awesome work man content only gets better!!
him and Gingium are the miata dads. The Rally miata build is going awesome!
Miatas Forever no doubt! these 2 guys have saved me so much money teaching me how to be my own mechanic best detailed tutorials ever
only futuristic absolutely. This channel helped me do coilovers myself, and Gingium convinced me to go turbo
@@adamcroteau8711 I used Thecarpassionchannel to build a forged 1.8 VVT engine, I never worked on cars before and with his video's it was easy. I only went the cheap route since I'll be running a td04.
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Saw the little message at the end. Hell yeah Greg! Knew you'd figure it out, it gives me confidence when I end up doing all this that it wont just break my car indefinitely.
The 4 stages of Miata:
1.Miatas are pretty cool.
2.Miatas are pretty cool and can make some power.
3.Miatas can make some power but it's a ton of work.
4.Can this thing work for just one week?
Nice I'm glad you get the vibrations fixed.
Solid vid! I'm so happy you film this kind of stuff. It really is so useful and entertaining!
Hell yeah bro!!! Psyched for you and excited to see where the car will go now that you've hurdled this roadblock
Awesome video Greg, thanks for all your hard work. You have done so much for the Miata community, and the car community in general.
So happy for you man, that vibration was upsetting me for you!
Appreciate your vids. I haven't done transmission swaps but they motivate me to keep wrenching. I did do a clutch and flywheel almost entirely by watching your how to vid 😂.
best Miata channel
"...line up tool EASILY slides in and out..." way more important than many give it credit for.
Honestly, I just taped an extension to a tight fit on pilot and disk. All the plastic tools I've ever tried were sausages down a hall.
HELL YEAH! Cya nasty never ending vibration
congratulations on the vibration fix
Great Miata videos, thanks Greg!
Can’t wait for the next video.
Everything STOP ....... it's another CPC video!
Great to hear that the vibration is sorted - whether by accident or design (?) - really pleased for you ¦:¬D
best outro comment ever. cant wait for next vid great news dude so glad its finally fixed
Good upgrade!
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From your recent videos on the vibration issue I was very surprised to hear you say that you thought it was in the driveline, not the transmission. Now you swapped this in but taking it up to speed to see how bad it vibrated wasn’t the first thing you did. It is as if you didn’t want the transmission to be the cause.
Glad to hear it is fixed though. You are an inspiration to a lot of guys who want to tinker with their cars.
woooohooooo!!! can't wait for the next video!!!
Really, fixed?? Already got a tear in my eye. Cant wait!
I really like your Miata for some reason, just the way you mod it is awesome idk why but...
life goals
I hope this fixes the rattle but i think theres a reason why bmws have 2 piece flywheels and dampening rings on the driveshaft
Hell yeah.
Very nice, Great video as usual!! Whatever happened with your inspection ticket?
2 uploads by Greg in a week? Wack.
hey Greg, I forgot to Inform you I did a spectrum analysis on the audio from one of the vibration videos, and I found the vibration is the same frequency as the driveshaft. The only thing you hadn't touched was the diff, correct? I believe the vibration may have been caused by the diff pinion.
Keuzy I think he said the vibration is already fixed in his other video but that he had not released the video. Time will tell what the actual issue was, can’t wait
So do you think that could have been hurting the transmissions?
Your Miata is a cool car.
Nice!
I see you also have the snap on dead blow although mine is oh-ronge. I didn't think I'd ever say this to another man but nice hammer.
hi greg i think its your adapter, from the transmisson to the driveshaft, you cut that alinement tap off, i'm pretty sure bmw has put it there for a reason, to keep the driveshaft true to the transmisson output flange :) aaaaand big big fan from denmark :)
So this is the fix for the shake? Saw your comment on the last video. Hyped man!
No; the next video will contain that
you know the outro is good when you rewind
that vibration was enough to try out anyone
Only a LS v8 away from the final solution. As an owner of a 1.6 turbo track day toy -- I get it.
Good Hard work. Can you show us your tips and tricks to jack up the car? (I know there are a million vids on this subject but the greg way is prob the fastest, most reliable way....)
You know you could start a new channel just for these transmission issues/swaps. There's a certain ring to TheTransPassionChannel, right?
I think that ring might give the wrong message
LMAO
Hahahaha
@@TheCarPassionChannel - I dunno, lmao.
28 clutches later…
Pfft at least 36😂
I wonder to maybe the diff mount to the subrframe is cracked or something letting the diff vibrare
i'm not going to rewatch previous video, but what if you replace PU diffmounts with rubber? Now I'm currious about the next video :)
AYYYYYY
Wheeee
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Im sad that our mans Craigory sounds and looks so bummed in this video... what a long, frustrating journey this vibration crap has been. Pumped for next vid tho see what the hell was the issue
Hi Greg I'm installing the gs6-37dz in my mx5 what is the clutch plate part number for the puk disc.
Any chance the engine/tranny/diff mount bushings are causing the vibration? I believe I saw somewhere that if the bushings have different densities you can develop a weird harmonic/vibration. The bushing densities for all the drivetrain mounts should be the same?
Hi Greic,
What oil are you using on the ZF ? in currently swapping my miata and the gearbox makes noises, reading online people say its because of the Oil, some people recommend to use ATF oil. wanted to hear from you experience.
how far does the drive shaft stick out of the transmission? and if you want to see if the drive shaft is the vibration problem...get a hose clamp and put it around the drive shaft near the diff yoke. try it in the 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions to see if the vibration minimizes or goes away...💪
Yooooooooo graig
I love you dad
Naaaaaaaah bru, we want more RIPS!!!!
Just got my zf 5 speed with 175k miles on it and the previous owner just had the detents professionally redone. Im considering redoing all the seals. Think this is something i can tackle myself or should i take it to a shop?
We are so close to 100k subs!
I'm toying with the idea of throwing a kl-ze in a Miata someday
Like first come back later to watch
woop woop! turn it up to 500 and take it to the drags
*spits rod*
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Do you know any good sites to look at to find miatas? I’ve been looking but no luck so far
Anyone know if they make an adapter kit for e36 getrag?
why does the drive footage have reverb?
Hey man, I have a questio for ya. How much powe do you estimate a forged, cammed and turbo 1.6 miata making? Also, love the channel man, very informative and lots of great content🙏☝☝💯
Mostly depends on turbo size and fuel type!
Autocross next week ?!
I think they’re good trans. Its stock in bmw
That caddilac diff your planning on using likes to break in the gen 1 CTS-V .
That car weighs 2x what the Miata does lol
3600lbs and 400lbs of torque, and I'm sure it takes some abuse to break it. I'm not too worried, the diff I removed was intended for 110ft-lbs of torque and I haven't broken it yet 😆
Im willing to bet greg can break it...
when the windsheild gopro turned on and the bov squealed i came
Is that a go pro hero 3 😂
That zf shifts great
It's a 5 but the quality really goes to trash as it gets darker and it tries to compensate
hmm.. whatsup with the zip ties on the wheel? .. btw @thecarpassionchannel have you seen the clip of Mantas Sliogeris winning the Gymkhana?
why not get a twin disk clutch? is it over kill to do so?
Flywheel is custom on this setup already, otherwise I would definitely go twin disc for the revs and holding power (like my previous setup)
Love you dad
Yop ! Why do you keep a 5 gears transmission ? If i was changing the entire gearbox as you do, i will probably go to a 6 gears one. There is a technical reason ?
Yes, it's in the description 🙂
710 likes and no dislikes. Dam Greg
Told you..... it was the output shaft of the Getrag 260! Need higher quality bearings.
Nope! Actually nothing to do with the transmission at all.
cadillac diff? Please do a video on that
Next up!
@@TheCarPassionChannel yay! You are an amazing miata vlogger thank you for everything that you do. You go beyond expectations... and it's noticed. I always look forward to your content... thank you
Should have gotten the 6 speed.
First miata to hit 200mph
Miata dad uploads, we all celebrate.
Have you considered an inner cv joint causing your vibration
Its commen on front wheel drive and turbo
hopefully a hard pull in 1st or 3rd doeesnt knock the shifter out of gear lol
It'll only come out easily with no power being put down. With your foot barely on the gas you'll have to use muscle to pull it out
you lost your speedo right?
Husqvarna eh. You also a bike guy? I have a husky dirt bike as well as miata.
how did you did the tach to work?
Tachometer functionality has nothing to do with the transmission, it works just like it does from factory
the tie-rap on the wheel need to be fix ahah tip not cut
Why not go to a BMW 530D manual 6 speed? They can take a lot of abuse
Why not go with a Ford 8.8 diff? Be a ton cheaper and hold all u wanna toss at it with the 4 banger! :)
That swap is heavier and has less exhaust clearance
What shifter are you running in this video?
IRP
Nice bro, you may have inspired me to swap over a bmw trans to my NA lol. I’m chasing 375ish to the wheels and 275 torque.
@@Frog_man007 IRP now offers the adapter plate to run their BMW shifter in a Miata, that's the setup I'm on now. The Miata 6-speed can handle that level of torque as long as it's not abused, I would give that a try. It's cheaper and easier to keep the Mazda setup in place, and a much better shifting experience IMO. But at the point of breaking 6-speeds, the BMW setup is a good option
Y not 6spd ?
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new 0-100, 100-200?
Definitely
Sr20 and 180sx trans or cd009 problem solved
Have you seen a cd009 in person? And have you seen the transmission tunnel of the Miata?
TheCarPassionChannel get out the grinding wheel and welder!
time to open up that transtunnel
And you know how reliable Thay are we are talking 600 hp daily on stock internal
And 6 speed 🤔
@@MRTuning704 6 gears aren't really necessary, I can always go to the ZF 6-Speed if I change my mind. People are drag launching ZF's at 1000whp without issue 🙂
TheCarPassionChannel yeah but with all the problems you’ve gone through it was probably cheaper and easier just to do it in the first place but it’s almost done and she looks like she’s ripping again so fingers crossed 🤞 I think it should hold
@@MRTuning704 the problem has nothing to do with the transmission
"Goes from about 2 inches to just over 3 inches, and I measured from the top of the knob"
XD
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3k left for the 100k common guy we can do it
the miata master dad need to be know
2k left actually sorry drunk a little my bad
Sell me one of the getrag 260’s u got please!!!!
Zooming like a 12 year old on snap chat
Sorry man i did not subscribe but hello content!
Swaps the driveshaft 69 times
vibration still there
"probably the driveshaft"
swaps the diff
vibration fixed
"Yep totally the driveshaft"
Diff swap uses a shorter driveshaft with a higher critical speed 😃✅
Maybe your driveshaft is not weighed in properly
just like on wheels
DerToaster_ look at his previous videos bruh
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