TIG Water Cooler Than I Used To Be!

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  • čas přidán 8. 01. 2018
  • Unexpected Christmas present! Arctic Chill water cooler for the tig torch.
    Note: not a sponsored video. In fact I proceed to destroy my warranty with an... ON-DEMAND FAN MOD! wooo... ahem.. pardon me.
    Water cooled tig torches -- who/what are they for?, sound measurements, temperature monitoring and control, etc. etc.
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    Music: "Bluebird" -- E's Jammy Jams
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  • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
    @PracticalEngineeringChannel Před 6 lety +2225

    I don't think "annually" means what you think it means...

    • @AndrewFrink
      @AndrewFrink Před 6 lety +124

      i had to go back and watch the video, i completely missed that joke the first time through.

    • @AttilaAsztalos
      @AttilaAsztalos Před 6 lety +52

      ...and we didn't even get to the really hard stuff like what "biennially" means...!

    • @lornie212
      @lornie212 Před 6 lety +10

      However, you cannot be TOO careful........ just in case.

    • @tommfuller
      @tommfuller Před 6 lety +107

      Attila Asztalos I once looked up what "biweekly" means, because no one seems to know what a fortnight is anymore. Turns out it means "every two weeks" AND "twice a week". Useless word.

    • @corythorp
      @corythorp Před 6 lety +37

      Is that not just poor usage? I thought the bi- prefix usually signified "every two", while the semi- prefix signified "twice per". I may be wrong though. It's been many a year since I was in school.

  • @j4nssent477
    @j4nssent477 Před 6 lety +315

    I cant believe i just watched a 30 minute video about a torch cooler... and enjoyed every second of it!

    • @censusgary
      @censusgary Před 4 lety +7

      Tuur Janssen I did, too, and I don’t even have a TIG welder, and probably never will.

    • @jaydotaylor2798
      @jaydotaylor2798 Před 2 lety +1

      i watched it expecting welding but no

    • @grahammycakes123
      @grahammycakes123 Před 2 lety

      Amen, and have no idea how to weld besides what I’ve seen on this channel 😂

  • @circuitmonkey6653
    @circuitmonkey6653 Před 4 lety +454

    "Coolant change recommended annually, but I'll probably just do it the old fashioned way...."

  • @bloogaming8827
    @bloogaming8827 Před 4 lety +129

    Just as tip from someone who used to be super obsessed with computer hardware: Fan brands make a huge difference. Arctic is pretty good, but if you really want quiet and long lasting, go for Noctua. Also, the bigger diameter the fan, the quieter it’s gonna be. Noctua sells a 200mm fan that has integrated anti-vibration pads as well as included cables, adapters, 4pin connector for PWM control, and loads of other extra bits and pieces.

    • @jonasghafur4940
      @jonasghafur4940 Před rokem +25

      just adding onto this if someone wants to try this: Op is 100% correct, but I’d urge you to spend the little more money for a noctua industrial series fan, they are just as good but a bit more rugged and therefore better fit for the Job imo

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Před rokem +18

      I'm definitely a _FAN_ of Noctua.

    • @mxmang
      @mxmang Před 8 měsíci +4

      Also the p series are for a radiator the f is for general air movement. P series next time😊

  • @TheVergile
    @TheVergile Před 3 lety +161

    petition to rename the channel to “This Old Tony 1000”

    • @IRunOnE85
      @IRunOnE85 Před 3 lety +5

      forgot the dash man, not so cool

    • @TheVergile
      @TheVergile Před 3 lety +6

      @@IRunOnE85 always leave room for improvement. thats my-motto

  • @JohanFroloff81
    @JohanFroloff81 Před 6 lety +451

    Taxes-1000 Doesn't sound cool at all Tony.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +84

      I laughed way too hard at that... touche', my friend, touche'!

    • @garrettboyt409
      @garrettboyt409 Před 6 lety +3

      Johan Froloff I

    • @superjugy
      @superjugy Před 5 lety +21

      But Taxinator-1000 does sound kind of cool

    • @carneeki
      @carneeki Před 4 lety +8

      Rearrange the letters and TEXAS-1000 sounds pretty darn sweet though.

    • @StanleyKubick1
      @StanleyKubick1 Před 4 lety +2

      if it was at the end of your yearly fiscal report: taxes-1000 ...you wouldn't hate it

  • @gamemeister27
    @gamemeister27 Před 3 lety +80

    I want to clarify something about the warning of using automotive antifreeze. It's not that it can't work, or definitely will damage the cooler. It's that there are a lot of different formulations out there, some of which might damage it.
    Either HTP could spend millions of dollars exhaustively testing every single antifreeze on the market and produce a list of compatible ones, or instead say that if you put something unapproved and untested in there, it's not their fault if it breaks.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Před rokem +2

      I definitely had that same thought.

    • @mxmang
      @mxmang Před 8 měsíci

      Propylene glycol would be fine ;)

    • @SE45CX
      @SE45CX Před 6 měsíci

      It would be nice if products came with totally complete specifications like also the rubber materials for the O-rings. That way you can check for yourself the chemical compatibility with automotive coolant types.

    • @philippe94416
      @philippe94416 Před měsícem

      @@SE45CX what I fear is more about safety : water ions is way more conductive, glycol is not making it more conductive.

  • @downstream0114
    @downstream0114 Před 4 lety +80

    Decibels are logarithmic so one db higher is a fair bit louder.
    "In terms of subjective loudness, a 1 dB change yields just over a 7% change."

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před 3 lety +12

      If you're interested in subjective loudness you don't use dB, you use phons, which take frequency (and human perception) into account.

    • @secretninja35
      @secretninja35 Před 3 lety

      @@RFC-3514 I just bought a fan and it's listed in sones

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před 3 lety

      @@secretninja35 - Same concept as phons (i.e., perceived loudness), and even defined by the same guy, except one scale is linear and the other is exponential (1 sone = 40 phons, and doubling the number of sones adds 10 phons).

    • @PlinkyVR
      @PlinkyVR Před 3 lety

      @@RFC-3514 so 1 sone is 40 phons and 2 Sones is 50 phons? Or 110 phons? Im the big confusion

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před 3 lety

      @@PlinkyVR - 2 sones = 50 phons, 4 sones = 60 phons, etc..

  • @mikekeele1533
    @mikekeele1533 Před 6 lety +116

    My wife says i'm easily amused. Maybe watching a warrantee be voided confirms that.

    • @DavoShed
      @DavoShed Před 4 lety

      Can you actually void the warranty on a free thing? 😀

    • @ClaudeSac
      @ClaudeSac Před 4 lety

      @@DavoShed Why not?

    • @DavoShed
      @DavoShed Před 4 lety +2

      @@@ClaudeSac Well I suppose you are right.
      Although if you send it back they could say "Thank You, you can have your freeness back"
      3 months since I watched this video I can't remember what part of the project was free :)

    • @seanbhaney
      @seanbhaney Před 3 lety

      @@DavoShed Bwahahahaha!! I am appalled that this certain thread didn't get a lot more pooping your pants/p'ing yourself actions converted into verbal responses here!

  • @smoogles
    @smoogles Před 6 lety +267

    That water leak gag >_

    • @dayyou
      @dayyou Před 6 lety +11

      I swear I laughed a little too hard at that.

    • @backspacecows01
      @backspacecows01 Před 6 lety +3

      funnee

    • @possumwizard
      @possumwizard Před 5 lety +18

      haha I actually gasped when that happened

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline Před 4 lety +8

      We were modding a Cessna 182 windshield and one was drilling between the door on the 'A' pillar...Looked exactly like the same thing :-), but for real, and 100LL aircraft fuel.
      Who would have thought the fuel line ran there from the wing to the engine?
      And of course, the boss comes out smoking his cigarette, "why does it smell like fuel in here? And what is this 10' puddle on the floor?"

    • @Rhannmah
      @Rhannmah Před 4 lety +1

      I wish people would always timestamp whatever they're referring to, so here it is : 24:18

  • @logans1091
    @logans1091 Před 4 lety +146

    Just gotta say, I really appreciate the "got it for free" disclosure. Good on you man

  • @johnbrowne3518
    @johnbrowne3518 Před 4 lety +39

    You could rewire it, so that you have one (or two) fans running continuously and the other two connected to the switching system. You could even set up an internal switch so you could switch the two pairs, so that one set isn't running all the time. Nice mod.

  • @jschlesinger2
    @jschlesinger2 Před 6 lety +43

    I interviewed for a job at USA Weld. Jeff is a great guy. USA Weld is a small operation. Jeff works pretty hard with just a few other people to keep things going strong.

    • @PaulsMechanics
      @PaulsMechanics Před 5 lety +2

      j s So you didn’t get the job?

    • @CDinkle
      @CDinkle Před 4 lety

      @@PaulsMechanics Probably not; the story would've been more like "I worked at USA Weld..."

  • @PriddyShiddy
    @PriddyShiddy Před 6 lety +103

    Tony, I watched all of your videos in order recently and rarely ever comment anywhere, but had to say: You make the best videos on CZcams. I watch all the normal DIY/CNC/machining/fab channels and love watching them but when that notification says "This Old Tony Posted..." I literally stop what I am doing, get a fresh cup of coffee, turn off the alarms on all the CNCs and close my door to watch. Most of the others are 'background noise' while I program, but the nuances and annotations require and deserve my full attention. Just amazing and entertaining videos. Thank you for the work, thought and incredible amount of time you spend making these!!

    • @jimcatan703
      @jimcatan703 Před 4 lety +2

      Brian Carmicheal there’s only 1 bell active for me, despite being subscribed to 100+ channels

  • @JonnyGuns
    @JonnyGuns Před 4 lety +29

    *Me thinking* "You're gonna hit the water tank with that drill. Yep! You....wait...you did that just to get us going.." lmao that's great.

  • @ralphwaters8905
    @ralphwaters8905 Před 5 lety +29

    Hey Tony, I agree with you about unnecessary shop noise, and wish my Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT shut off the fans between welds. However, I built my own cooler so this put me in charge of its noise. Aside from the usual carbonator pump, bypass regulator and motor shaft mods for the fan (same blade you have), I used a Sparkfun MicroView (Arduino compatible) microcontroller to manage it. It watches in/out temps & torch flow rate and turns off the motor when the torch is cool after welding. It also inhibits the foot switch command to the welder unless flow is OK. So far, I'm thrilled with it cuz my shop is quieter!
    I also had some uncommon chemical problems that were solved by outstanding support from StarBrite, the makers of Miller TIG coolant, so I'm a lifetime customer. By the way, I put an argon pressure switch in the command circuit so I "never" try to weld without gas coverage. I feel smarter already! Keep up the great work and even greater puns. You keep me ROFL

  • @TheMixmastamike1000
    @TheMixmastamike1000 Před 6 lety +169

    I’m a grown man and a little embarrassed to say the doodie cycle joke caught me off guard and is responsible for my first CZcams related spit take 😂

    • @andrew74x
      @andrew74x Před 5 lety

      I missed it. Where was it at so I don't waste another 30 mins..

    • @melvinnening8982
      @melvinnening8982 Před 5 lety +1

      4:06

    • @seanbhaney
      @seanbhaney Před 3 lety

      I caught that and LOL'd til I peed my pants.

  • @SomeGuyInSandy
    @SomeGuyInSandy Před 6 lety +92

    Not ONE zip-tie. Color me impressed!

    • @Novers
      @Novers Před 4 lety +3

      Honestly with those fans it feels wrong seeing them not ziptied

    • @bureaudebureau
      @bureaudebureau Před 4 lety +2

      just some bailing wire. that's what people used before zip ties.

  • @vickilamb946
    @vickilamb946 Před 4 lety +58

    "I don't want to end up with the music in me..." Emerson reference...."
    Most men live lives of quiet desperation and die with the music still in them."

    • @evanbarnes9984
      @evanbarnes9984 Před 4 lety

      I was wondering if that was a Stevie Wonder joke or something! Thanks for the reference

    • @jamesa7506
      @jamesa7506 Před 4 lety

      Well done, ma'am! A true statement, indeed.

    • @tehrater480
      @tehrater480 Před 4 lety +1

      I think that was Thoreau

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před 3 lety +7

      @@tehrater480 - Actually, it's neither, although it's frequently (mis)attributed to Thoreau (never saw it attributed to Emerson before). It's actually from Oliver Wendell Holmes' The Voiceless: _"Alas for those that never sing, but die with all their music in them."_

  • @BruceWayne-sj6dd
    @BruceWayne-sj6dd Před 4 lety +54

    I was drunk when I heard the "BUT I DI-JEST " Joke. Laffed til I was sober 😂😂😂

  • @Pedro-ke6xp
    @Pedro-ke6xp Před 6 lety +46

    Man I just bought a table-1000 and it's the coolest table ever

  • @MattsAwesomeStuff
    @MattsAwesomeStuff Před 6 lety +343

    Tony - I would have put the temperature sensor on the cold line. You shouldn't care how hot the hot is, only how cold the cold is. Suppose, for extremes, the cooler was sitting in an ice bath. Water going in might be 50'c, but water going out, and to the torch, is perhaps 15'c. That's fine, no need to turn on that fan. You only turn it on when the cool side can't be as cool as you want it to be anymore. Also, for minimum fan noise you want the largest blades possible. 4 small fans are far noisier than 1 large fan for the same air volume I believe. And, you could hook up a variable voltage to the fans so that they're nice and quiet (lower voltage = spin slower = quieter) until needed. Running a 12v fan at 9v makes it much quieter without being much weaker. Just my two cents. Interesting build.

    • @JohnDoe-fk6id
      @JohnDoe-fk6id Před 6 lety +26

      +1 to all of that. I would definitely use a larger, single fan. The only thing I would add to your comment is that there are temperature based fan controllers that automatically adjust the fan speed (PWM voltage) as necessary. I would use one of those, and either put the temp probe on the outlet of the radiator or on the cold side line. Putting it on the outlet side of the radiator assumes that the fan controller is always driving the fans at least at low speed.

    • @kevinreardon2558
      @kevinreardon2558 Před 6 lety +7

      I'm going to muse over that monitoring of hot vs. cool for a bit. I'm upgrading my CNC router to be water cooled and have not yet placed the temperature transducer. Originally I wanted to monitor how hot it got so I could react to that condition. But what would monitoring how cold it got do for my information gathering? Noodle, noodle...
      As far as fan size goes, I guess it depends on if it sits on your desk...wait a larger fan moving faster makes much more noise. They had that problem with fighters. The outer tips of the fan is where the noise happens. Then there is total surface area of the air moved. A single fan would have less useless surface area then four small fans, but we're back to that speed thing. Noodle, noodle...

    • @animefreak5757
      @animefreak5757 Před 6 lety +16

      in a setup like this I'd bet the temperature delta isn't that high, so it doesn't really matter where you place the sensor. It's safer putting it on the hot side because it will respond to heat building up faster.
      larger fans are generally quieter for a given air flow, significantly less wasted space.

    • @kevinreardon2558
      @kevinreardon2558 Před 6 lety +4

      Ya, larger cooling fans. But if you move to high speed fans, the tips can approach the speed of sound and you end up with that issue. The larger the fan, for a given speed, the faster that fan tip goes, and the more sound generated. But at these speeds, I don't think the sound curve is there.

    • @charliepuch
      @charliepuch Před 6 lety +4

      I agree, you want the sensor on the output line, or if possible just put it in the water reservoir. Typically those sensors are potted, and thus waterproof. The main goal is preventing the water going to the torch from being too hot. Also, great video!!!

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert4124 Před 4 lety +97

    So with fans bigger is always better. One big fan will push far more air far quieter than 4 small fans of a similar size. Always go as big as you can, giggity. The downsides being reliability, if one fan breaks you're looking at 75% cooling vs 0% cooling, and how uniform the airflow is which won't matter to pretty much anyone. Fan noise is mostly related to fan rotation speed, a 200mm fan might rotate at 300rpm vs a 100mm fan at 3000 rpm. That's the difference between putting your ear against it in a silent room and having a constant hum. If you can't change the size, more fans at a slower rotation is also a good way to go. My computer would have 8 fans, for example, all turning barely above their stall speed. That makes it absolutely silent in the dead of night with my ear against it. It also means when a fan died 2 years ago I've still not needed to get a new one and the sound is still very very quiet.
    Also quality makes a difference, mostly for noise. The airflow is less of a factor but there is a slight difference. Arctic fans are poor quality. The main difference is in bearing type. The bearings your fan has are sleeve bearings, very quiet at first but quickly rubs away the oil and becomes the noisiest. Ball bearings start off louder but are pretty consistent and are a great choice for anything but very light usage or regular replacements. Sleeve bearings are the cheapest. Fluid dynamic bearings (FDB) are the best of both worlds, using clever engineering to use an oil bearing but not lose effectiveness. Because the technique is patented it has a significant cost increase but they are my favourite. Non patent editions exist like rifle bearings but vary in performance usually just wanting the FDB market but with sleeve performance.
    Finally the fan shape makes a difference. Stepping away from the super intricate details and selling points, the important facet is the size of the blades vs the number. A higher number of small (thin) blades pushes a lot of air but can't handle pressure (restricted flow ie radiators). A lower number of large (wide) fan blades are less angled thus less flow but work far better for radiators. Large blades work with everything so are a safe bet, but if used correctly small blades can have double the flow (or more) for the same noise. A rule of thumb is larger blades for the way in to fight never-changed dust filters radiators and the intended overpressure, smaller blades on the way out as the air should be pressurised and already running out with nothing to resist it. Sometimes you'd want large blades for both like front and back of a radiator. Small blades for both is rarer. There you have the crash course in fans, more than you'd ever want to know.

    • @roippi3985
      @roippi3985 Před 4 lety +11

      Bigger = quieter is true wisdom for equivalent voltage electric fans. You’ll get a lower RPM for a given voltage.
      For fans that share a motor shaft that’s doing other stuff, it’s less clear. Given sufficient torque, if he swapped out the stock fan on that motor for a bigger one it would actually be louder. When the RPMs stay constant, bigger = louder.
      (just adding some color on mechanically-driven fans)

    • @Yomom12388
      @Yomom12388 Před 3 lety +3

      It’s a year late, but might I suggest fans with mag-lev bearings in them. I grabbed some Corsair ones for my rig and they’re fucking amazing. Actually, Corsair might have a patent on that and I don’t know if anyone else makes them but still, they’re amazing.

    • @olivialambert4124
      @olivialambert4124 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Yomom12388 Yea, I'm a little dated on fan technology to be honest. When I last looked the hydrodynamic bearings were the new hotness, and tons of companies were installing fakes to avoid paying on royalties. They didn't seem to understand the principle of them, though. Maglev in theory sounds perfect, but in reality the bearing noise is typically a very small part of the noise. The much worse is the fan shaping, turbulence, and the pressure wave interactions between fans and struts. Those get far worse with fan speed though so more and bigger is still always the solution.

    • @olivialambert4124
      @olivialambert4124 Před 3 lety

      @@roippi3985 My argument is more for equal cooling requirements, bigger and more is quieter. After all the cooling requirements are the constant we cannot change. Fan voltage, RPM speeds, and everything of that nature is merely a consequence of cooling requirements and help understand the trend rather than a variable we are free to change.

    • @olivialambert4124
      @olivialambert4124 Před 3 lety +2

      @UnknownPlayer I mean I work in physics so I didn't need a whole lot of research for it all. Its something I did a while back, it would have irritated me if I did it wrong. I'm glad it has helped people understand cooling more, it seems an area which isn't explored very well so a lot of people seem to be completely lost regarding the best strategies.

  • @PrimaSilica
    @PrimaSilica Před 5 lety +34

    Thisoldtony made my eyes bulge for a second when I saw him drill the case and saw water come out. Jesus!

  • @johnbiggs7620
    @johnbiggs7620 Před 6 lety +90

    I knew it Tony is Santa Claus. They both sound the same and both have the same wedding ring 🤣

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller Před 6 lety +77

    "doodie cycle" Thanks for the coffee spew!! Great video Tony!

  • @JDLarge
    @JDLarge Před 4 lety +32

    Got me good when the water came back through that freshly drilled hole Tony geeze! Course I knew better, but still very funny and informative so thanks!
    There is no better way to learn than with humor😉 it’s proven.

  • @MrOzzyCam
    @MrOzzyCam Před 3 lety +4

    I just lost a hand thanks to your experiment of lighting my hands on fire. Thanks Old Tony for the lesson learnt. You are a great educator :D

  • @Pow3llMorgan
    @Pow3llMorgan Před 6 lety +200

    Wait.. If your welding hand is cybernetic and demonstrably can cool down stuff you touch, why do you need a water cooled torch?

    • @fanwlkr
      @fanwlkr Před 6 lety +4

      I toght just the same thing, maybe he'll make a cybernetic hand D.I.Y. for us some day :D:D

    • @fanwlkr
      @fanwlkr Před 6 lety +4

      Everyone who TIG welds needs a cybernetic hand XD

    • @TimothyHall13
      @TimothyHall13 Před 6 lety +17

      He is left handed.

    • @user-neo71665
      @user-neo71665 Před 6 lety +4

      It's just so he doesn't have to sit on his left hand and make it numb to uh, um......

    • @phuturephunk
      @phuturephunk Před 5 lety

      OH shi........

  • @Abom79
    @Abom79 Před 6 lety +336

    Hey Tony, nice gift and sweet mods! BTW, don't ya just hate it when the kids pinch the lines while your trying to pull off that Instagram worthy weld....

  • @Ron_EZ
    @Ron_EZ Před 4 lety +57

    This Old Tony, Very COOL! 😁
    Just an FYI, every 3db of change either increases (doubles) or decreases (cuts in half) the volume you hear.

    • @Barolax
      @Barolax Před 4 lety +4

      I came here with the intention of expressing a similar sentiment. 😁

    • @Nomnivore7531
      @Nomnivore7531 Před 4 lety

      I've always worked under the assumption that humans perceive a 6-10dB increase as being twice as loud

    • @vwertix1662
      @vwertix1662 Před 4 lety

      @@Nomnivore7531 i think the 3dB increase is a doubling in pressure

    • @Bob5mith
      @Bob5mith Před 4 lety +4

      @@vwertix1662 3 dB is a doubling of SPL or signal amplitude. I think 6 dB more SPL and 10 dB line amplification is double perceived sound, or maybe the reverse. I've read 6 dB and 10 dB before and remember having an "Aha!" moment about why there were two different answers, but I'm not sure which was what.

    • @friedmule5403
      @friedmule5403 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes 3dB is 2x the volume but you have to go 10dB up for the human to hear it as 2x the volume.

  • @Intellistan
    @Intellistan Před rokem +4

    These videos are awesome. Unreal how well done they are. Informative, fun, easy to watch, entertaining.... gotta be some of the best stuff ever

  • @AttilaAsztalos
    @AttilaAsztalos Před 6 lety +49

    Oh, so we weren't good enough for you?!? You just *had* to go and *buy* yourself some fans...? ;)

  • @pikerdm7466
    @pikerdm7466 Před 6 lety +206

    Just for future reference Noctua make the best fans for low noise high performance and reliability. the NF-F12's are basically the best PC fans on the market.

    • @MrJizzy181
      @MrJizzy181 Před 5 lety +26

      But they are fucking ugly....

    • @tynanroyhiggins
      @tynanroyhiggins Před 5 lety +15

      Best fan, worst price.

    • @Le_Petit_Lapin
      @Le_Petit_Lapin Před 4 lety +38

      Who thought that 2 shades of turd brown was a good colour for a fan? Like yeah, they're in my case, sure, but I can still see the pastel poo fan blades spinning.

    • @AnarchistAaron
      @AnarchistAaron Před 4 lety +8

      First thing I thought when I saw them arctics, they do more colours other than poo now too

    • @emiltrresen5026
      @emiltrresen5026 Před 4 lety +15

      @@MrJizzy181 Well at least they are making them black as well now ;)

  • @cbryant987
    @cbryant987 Před 3 lety +1

    The rotating cooler pushing the 2.5 ⭐ review to the side was fantastic. I've seen all your videos countless times and find new things to enjoy every time I watch.

  • @waltschannel7465
    @waltschannel7465 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the sight gags in your videos. Wonderful cinematic work! Takes "talk to the hand" to a whole new level!

  • @JK-sy3tt
    @JK-sy3tt Před 6 lety +46

    You are the BEST of all Tonys.

  • @WhereWhatHuh
    @WhereWhatHuh Před 6 lety +43

    Cool. I didn't know Hypertext Transfer Protocol could be used for cooling or welding. Wow. Virtually unreal. Now, about HTTPS:// ...
    Also, the Lambourghini dealer asked me to tell you that they're not sending you a car for Christmas... They're afraid you'll make it into a tractor.

    • @blitzkriegpower
      @blitzkriegpower Před 6 lety +7

      WhereWhatHuh 😀 Lamborghini also build tractors

    • @WhereWhatHuh
      @WhereWhatHuh Před 6 lety +5

      Exactly.

    • @josepherwin8709
      @josepherwin8709 Před 4 lety +1

      Lamborghini started out as a tractor company. They still build industrial equipment.

    • @makinwaves8147
      @makinwaves8147 Před 4 lety

      Joseph Erwin 🤣 rich farmers scoff at John deer in their Lamborghini tractors

  • @DigitalN8v
    @DigitalN8v Před 5 lety +1

    I ve been watching ur vids for a while now but, is it just me or when did ur sense of humor become so colorful...I enjoy all ur content serious or not..taking apart stuff is all I ever wanted to do in life. U are truly inspiring Tony.

  • @RANDALLOLOGY
    @RANDALLOLOGY Před 5 lety

    I must say, your sense of humor is awesome. How you add subtle things in your description and explanations not to mention visual effects that makes these videos very enjoyable to watch.

  • @untrust2033
    @untrust2033 Před 2 lety +21

    17:52 The PC fans with more blades are generally optimised for airflow rather than static pressure.
    IIRC, you want fans that are optimised for static pressure when pushing air into a heatsink or radiator.

    • @gabrielschirmbeck400
      @gabrielschirmbeck400 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah but I think the original fan also isn't really optimized for static pressure, because its completely loose inside the enclosure so it probably doesnt create much pressure.
      I think the radiator surface area makes up for that.....

    • @Bllinker
      @Bllinker Před 2 lety +3

      It depends on both the fan and the radiator. Sure, a normal cpu radiator needs a pressure-optimized fan because its fins are so close together. This radiator here doesn't really need that because the fins are what, 5-10 times further apart compared to a standard cpu cooler, maybe more. And you can take that even further, look at audio equipment and such with radiators that don't need a fan, their fins are often more than 1cm apart (and much thicker for some reason)

    • @untrust2033
      @untrust2033 Před 2 lety

      @@Bllinker True.

    • @teufelhunden222
      @teufelhunden222 Před rokem

      It’s a draw thru, not push through. Plus, did you see that heat exchanger? No pressure needed for that one lol.

  • @beunks
    @beunks Před 6 lety +21

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Jeff's office tomorrow morning.

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 Před 5 lety +2

      Pray he doesnt own a swatter though. Hell pissed enough without the fly anoying him...

  • @justinrobin154
    @justinrobin154 Před 5 lety +1

    Tony, I just found your channel and I can't get enough! The humor you add to the videos is priceless. You've got a new long time viewer!

  • @Jager-er4vc
    @Jager-er4vc Před 4 lety +1

    Videos are HILARIOUS, informative and fantastically edited. You’re AMAZING! Keep it up! Seriously, I look forward to any video you put out!

  • @djhaloeight
    @djhaloeight Před 6 lety +3

    I just found your channel the other day. Love the content, especially your smarrtassery and dry humor. Feckin’ brilliant buddy. Keep it up!

  • @ChadWalber
    @ChadWalber Před 4 lety +77

    The iPhone clips on the microphone at around 87 dB. Anything louder than that will read as 87 dB.

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle Před 4 lety +14

      But that's not an iPhone

    • @jordananderson2728
      @jordananderson2728 Před 4 lety +10

      That was definitely an Android. You ever heard of an iPhone with a back button at the bottom?

    • @FraLin
      @FraLin Před 2 lety

      all phones use the same microtones iPhones are only overpriced

  • @maximecomeau4577
    @maximecomeau4577 Před 3 lety +3

    The "doodie" cycle is without a doubt one of your best, cracked me right up good job old Tony.

  • @manr.9106
    @manr.9106 Před 2 lety

    Hey Tony, i absolutely love your humour! Best explanation techniques to keep the students focused!

  • @astermay5757
    @astermay5757 Před 5 lety +11

    This old tony i like your vids, very informative also very good for anxiety and stress relief keep on keeping on and longer vids/projects are welcome

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff Před 4 lety +15

    To cool a radiator, the proper arctic fans would be the P series (P120 in your case), for the increased static Pressure

  • @stanleykinzinger
    @stanleykinzinger Před 4 lety

    Why have i JUST learned about this page this past week.
    Its such gold

  • @rangersmustang
    @rangersmustang Před 5 lety +1

    This channel is just something else! I really enjoy the work being done and the comedy that goes along with it. Keep up the good work! Just got yourself another subscriber!

  • @zilas4355
    @zilas4355 Před 3 lety +13

    Ok when you cracked the wife's phone screen i've had the best unexpected laught in a loong time, Have a subscription good sir!

  • @johnbrady7431
    @johnbrady7431 Před 5 lety +837

    Dear "Tony" guy
    Can you please stop making entertaining videos of tearing stuff apart so my husband will get back to his slavery... I mean chores.
    Thanks
    Mrs. Brady

    • @JTB128650
      @JTB128650 Před 4 lety

      John Brady dang lol

    • @MrConspark
      @MrConspark Před 4 lety +2

      I think she means slavery and she who must be obeyed is goddess

  • @dansindan01
    @dansindan01 Před 5 lety

    You never dissapoint. Love you style of presenting . Got to get me a gage or shop space. Have tons of hardware in a flat . So often upset the neighbours. Especially as I live in central London. 😂

  • @rob4freedom2012
    @rob4freedom2012 Před 4 lety +1

    Love watching your vids, Never boring, Always entertaining and informative, Many thanks, Keep up the good work ,

  • @Thonss
    @Thonss Před 6 lety +4

    Nice video! The STC-1000 is extensively used in homebrewing to turn on a fridge when the fermenting beer gets too hot (or turn on a heating element when the beer gets too cold!). Too bad the delay time is 1 minute. An arduino solution would've been better, but the line voltage fan would be the most ideal option.
    Thanks for the video

  • @waaybiker
    @waaybiker Před 4 lety +6

    im not sure if im here watching u for your skills or your jokes, i love them both

    • @robertgaudet7407
      @robertgaudet7407 Před 4 lety

      The camera work is really good too. How do you get this good at machining and not suck at literally everything else? I don't know.

  • @jimwhitaker8751
    @jimwhitaker8751 Před rokem

    I always enjoy your projects!
    Keep them up.

  • @PaganWizard
    @PaganWizard Před 5 lety +2

    Being extremely new to the idea of learning how to weld, I will say that I never knew such a beast existed. Having seen this and having a rather lengthy computer tinkering background, I can tell you that this is not much more than a water cooling setup for a computer on steroids. I am relatively certain that one of these can be built from scratch, that would move water more efficiently, and quietly for a fraction of the price. The build that I would be referring to most likely would not work too well in most professional environments, but for the weekend warrior, like I am hoping to become, it would be more than adequate. But with this being gifted to you, you definitely can not beat the price of free. GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!!!

  • @chrischaney2695
    @chrischaney2695 Před 5 lety +4

    .
    Hey Tony (if that really is your name) - Love your channel, envy your skills.
    Not sure if someone already mentioned this: fan shrouds work to help decrease turbulence at the fan tips (which could be applied to the built-in aluminum fan) and thereby increase fluid (air) flow and reduce noise. Keep making awesome stuff!

  • @DeathguyTheDestroyer
    @DeathguyTheDestroyer Před 4 lety +18

    I copyrighted "Slurpo". I'll be expecting my royalty check on February 31st.

  • @markisturner1897
    @markisturner1897 Před 3 lety

    Mate, you are hilarious and very informative.
    I'm a 48 year old Australian and find myself giggling often watching your videos.
    Good job 😀
    Your attitude is more realistic than others.

  • @troyna77
    @troyna77 Před 5 lety

    Ty. The subtle bits of wit and bs are great nugget of knowledge that should be take "annually" with meals. Love it. Thanks!

  • @goyslop4289
    @goyslop4289 Před 6 lety +12

    Harbor freight water pump-40$
    Marathon 1/2 hp motor-60$
    Amazon radiator-30$
    Tubing/fittings-10$
    Something to hold water - probably free
    ..next weekend project in the works lol

    • @cetyl2626
      @cetyl2626 Před 6 lety +4

      bdub z Don't bother with the HF pump, it's junk (been there with my own homemade beer fermenter chiller, spend a few bucks on one meant for an RV, instead)

    • @lunchboxproductions1183
      @lunchboxproductions1183 Před 6 lety +3

      That HF pump isn't going to cut it, look on Craigslist for an old carbonator pump from the beverage industry. If you can get the whole assembly you'll have a decent water tank too.

    • @jaredj631
      @jaredj631 Před 6 lety +2

      Armchair Pilot the 12v harbor freight transfer pump lasted me two years of farming, I watered thousands of chickens From 55 gallon drums in the back of my pickup. So that's not bad I still have it, it works fine.

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 6 lety +1

      Case off it looks very very similar to a household dehumidifier (which WOULD give slushie like results since they have freon /R-134/etc in them) which are often just thrown away. I'd use a circulator pump (meant for like baseboard heating) since they are extremely reliable and designed for cycling.

    • @frigzy3748
      @frigzy3748 Před 6 lety +2

      TIG cooler pump is very special - it's a high pressure / low flow type. You only can find such pumps in beverage industry and they are pricey. Any other type of pump will work in less than optimal mode and will not last long.

  • @bobw7707
    @bobw7707 Před 6 lety +21

    Had a car one time that made wind noise thru the drivers window. Drove me crazy. Took it back to the dealer and guess what he said? Well, just turn up the radio....Maybe you need a bigger radio.

    • @andrewwhite1793
      @andrewwhite1793 Před 6 lety

      Bob W
      cheap car, expensive stereo - works for me!

  • @Stacyjtyler
    @Stacyjtyler Před 3 lety

    TOT I love your video's, no face and you bring idiocracy to its best. (Mistakes that I have made in the past could have been avoided with your guidance). You show all of the mistakes that you and I have made and how to combat them. Or your show all of them so that other people can learn from them. Thank you for your time and effort. Your are so awesome. I have been needing to make a tig torch cooler for my tig for so long. I don't wanna spend the money and have been using my watercooled tig torch for ever. That being said. I just feed it with a water hose and the waste line goes out the back of my garage. Keep in mind though I just use my tig once in a blue moon. So it doesn't hurt my water bill. I would love to have this setup. Keep up the good work.

  • @avi8r66
    @avi8r66 Před 4 lety +2

    I've watched this video several times by now, had missed the sound of the invisible torch hitting the bench every time until now, cracked me up.

  • @gleaseman
    @gleaseman Před 6 lety +6

    Good gosh, we've found the This Old Tony holy grail of Dad jokes! Top shelf Tony! (And I Digest)

  • @Jannie303
    @Jannie303 Před 5 lety +5

    First off: just found your channel, awesome stuff man. Love your videos.
    Second: Why don't you bypass the temp controller for 1 fan to provide a little cooling for the motor?
    Shouldn't be too hard.

  • @stephengreen3566
    @stephengreen3566 Před 2 lety

    That was a lot more fun than I was expecting. Thank you.

  • @LittleAussieRockets
    @LittleAussieRockets Před 11 měsíci

    I'm re-watching some of the old ones and these dad jokes just don't get old😂

  • @pocket5s1
    @pocket5s1 Před 5 lety +5

    The buck Rogers reference made me lol

  • @pennise
    @pennise Před 5 lety +3

    Tony,
    You owe me a new keyboard and a set of false teeth. Way too funny - great video.

  • @NeonblueIndustries
    @NeonblueIndustries Před 5 lety +2

    Great vid and Mod Tony.
    You could maybe sit the motor up on vibration absorbing material to stop it reverberating through the chassis.
    Also you could press small copper pipe through the heatsink fins of the more case if the motor gets too hot.

  • @Noahlochner0
    @Noahlochner0 Před 4 lety

    Tony your videos are the best thing on the internet. Please don't ever stop.

  • @Pieh0
    @Pieh0 Před 4 lety +29

    11:45 *spits drink out while laughing*

  • @deannajoseph
    @deannajoseph Před 6 lety +6

    This video is class from start to finish thanks and well done ToT

    • @Dfutham
      @Dfutham Před 4 lety

      His well is finished? I don't know why I thought the well water was so funny.

  • @lazzynomad
    @lazzynomad Před 5 lety

    Your editing and sketch comedy is top notch.

  • @marioncobretti7870
    @marioncobretti7870 Před 3 lety

    Those 2 " bloopers" were hilarious. The phone cracking and the hole going into the resevoir.. priceless

  • @dalendru
    @dalendru Před 3 lety +3

    I have absolutely no plan to do any welding in my future, but just love your channel. Great videos and the voice over is fabulous. Thanks for putting in such a ton of effort into tour videos n

  • @eformance
    @eformance Před 6 lety +44

    Hey Tony, those F12 case fans have an external PWM input signal that is used to vary the speed of the fan. I'd recommend buying a PC case fan controller that has an external thermistor and PWM fan control. Or you could just whip something up with and Arduino. Bang-bang temp control is ugly and noisy...
    *Correction* later in the video I see those are 3 wire, not 4 wire, so no PWM input. You can still vary the speed of 3 wire fans with PWM, but the control isn't as fine-grained as 4 wire (2 of the wires are power, 1 is tachometer feedback, 1 is PWM input).

    • @iwtommo
      @iwtommo Před 6 lety +4

      I always wondered why there were so many wires. Not enough to actually go find out, but im glad you cleared that up for me!

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon Před 5 lety

      Usually, it's the CPU fan that has that 4th wire, so that you can throttle it according to the CPU load.

    • @BradHedges
      @BradHedges Před 5 lety +1

      Three wires do give you PWM control; four wires have an encoder that returns data *from* the fan, to give feedback to the controller (tells it how fast the fan is actually turning).

    • @chriswisneski6071
      @chriswisneski6071 Před 5 lety +2

      @@BradHedges no, you got it backwards. 3 wire fans report rpm, the 4th wire is for speed control (all PWM fans have rpm reporting, at least for PC style fans). We could discuss why all pc fans with PWM also have rpm signal (it's the economy... ), but it doesn't matter - the industry standard says the 3rd wire is RPM signal, and the 4th wire (if it's there) is PWM RPM control.

  • @markdavich5829
    @markdavich5829 Před 3 lety

    I love your videos. The jokes you sneak in are hilarious - maybe I'm just easily entertained but I almost fell out of my chair at least twice. LOL

  • @BPantherPink
    @BPantherPink Před 4 lety

    This guy's just THE BEST ... Love your videos so so much. Oh so very entertaining AND intelligent 👏👏👏

  • @eformance
    @eformance Před 6 lety +87

    Your corded angle grinder always sounded a lot louder...but it's only *2-3db* higher. Umm, isn't 3db exactly twice as loud?!

    • @BerndFelsche
      @BerndFelsche Před 6 lety +61

      It doesn't *sound* twice as loud. The power is doubled.
      Has to be 10dB higher to sound twice as loud.
      I SAID THAT IT HAS TO BE 10dB HIGHER TO SOUND TWICE AS LOUD!!!

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 Před 6 lety +15

      *WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?*

    • @wolfy9005
      @wolfy9005 Před 6 lety +6

      Corded spins faster and seems to have a lot more high pitched drivetrain noise, it's like 7500 for my cordless vs 12000 for the corded. Probably needs some grease in there

    • @HaraldSangvik
      @HaraldSangvik Před 6 lety +7

      Yeah, it's probably the frequency that gives the impression of higher noise.

    • @xXSoonexXx
      @xXSoonexXx Před 6 lety +12

      db is not linear its log

  • @FullSendPrecision
    @FullSendPrecision Před 6 lety +158

    Not sure I like that one minute delay... seems backwards... like, run for one minute after we reach the low threshold.

    • @erikkayV
      @erikkayV Před 6 lety +15

      I do not have that stc-1000 but I do use a PID that is similar and at least on the one I own all of those parameters can be changed.
      Though to find out what can be changed and how to change it I had to go digging through the internet as nothing was included with the device. It may be an industry standard to make these devices as cryptic and mysterious as possible.

    • @jakthesmack
      @jakthesmack Před 6 lety +5

      Aaron Anderson Well that whole time the water is still transferring heat to the cooler, and when you consider the duty cycle the minute wait shouldn't really be detrimental overall. My only concern is whether or not the pc fans move enough volume of air compared to the stamped fan it came with. They'll only move about 200cfm combined whereas the original probably moved several times more air.

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 Před 6 lety +16

      It probably keeps the fans from cycling on and off if the temp is right at the threshold.

    • @MarkFunderburk
      @MarkFunderburk Před 6 lety +13

      I think the delay will be a problem , a Tig torch running at 200+ amps generates A LOT of heat and one minute is a good deal of temp rise before the fan finally kicks on. The only way I see him being able to get by with that would be if the thermal mass of the water can absorb that much energy without significant temp rise in a minute, but I don't know how much water that thing holds and I don't know the exact amount of heat a torch generates so It would be a wild ass guess.
      Anyways I'm sure there is a way he can configure the delay to be less, that would be an odd restriction.

    • @erikskytt4544
      @erikskytt4544 Před 6 lety +4

      Or just set the start temp lower than ambient if you know you will be doing 200A so its always on.

  • @condor5635
    @condor5635 Před 5 lety

    Very interesting tinkering project. I laughed so hard when you said STC1000 - put 1000 at the end of any word and it sounds cooler. Very funny and true. Thanks for making!

  • @mckannix5055
    @mckannix5055 Před 3 lety +1

    Inspired me to make the same mod to my Bernard - Didn't measure dB pre and post, but, WOW! So much less like a B-52 takeoff roll. Thanks TOT

  • @morotsbrun
    @morotsbrun Před 6 lety +15

    You should realy try putting rubber dampers on the motor mount and do an comparison of it!

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +9

      ha, i actually did that and edited it out. vibe mounts pushed the motor too high, wouldn't fit in the case anymore!

    • @morotsbrun
      @morotsbrun Před 6 lety +1

      Alright, how much of a difference did it make tho? It should make some difference even if you got like 3mm rubber?

  • @jaredj631
    @jaredj631 Před 6 lety +16

    That thing would be great for condensing moonshine.

    • @94ToBor
      @94ToBor Před 6 lety

      I use the same setup, but homemade. Could probably work as a tig-cooler

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 6 lety +1

      Try running the coils through a freezer. Works sweet!

    • @94ToBor
      @94ToBor Před 6 lety

      Just to be clear, I use this setup to cool the water going to the condenser. Not directly for distilling. Reflux system with adjustable return ;)

  • @lucasbraun9783
    @lucasbraun9783 Před 5 lety +2

    I just want to tell you I love your videos and they are made perfect

  • @sinrock85
    @sinrock85 Před 2 lety

    Your wife is the most patient person I’ve never met. You are incredibly lucky to have her. Don’t mess it up.

  • @ricardobonito83
    @ricardobonito83 Před 4 lety +6

    24:28 omg that was hilarious, especially when I was focused and not waiting :)

  • @Shaun.Stephens
    @Shaun.Stephens Před 5 lety +9

    I have a similar controller and this applies:
    Long press power 5 seconds to enter the main menu settings, press the + - toggle P0 ... P8. Press set to store. 5 seconds of no key activity exits settings menu.
    Code Code Description Setting range
    P0 Cooling /Heating C/H
    P1 Hysteresis setting 0.5-15
    P2 Highest setting upper limit 110
    P3 Lowest setting upper limit -50
    P4 Calibration +7-7
    P5 Delay start time 0-10 Minutes
    P6 High temp alarm 0-110
    To restore the factory settings in run state, long press + and -.
    Mine isn't identical but maybe they have the same or similar settings? It appears yours is set at 3 degrees for P1 (Hysteresis). Thanks for the video.

    • @kewlhotrod
      @kewlhotrod Před 4 lety +2

      With this type of info (useful info for those with that particular product,) I recommend you find out your controller exactly, find the main discussion site/forum for that particular controller and share this info there.
      You will save countless hours in Google searching for some poor souls out there.

  • @felipenavas
    @felipenavas Před 4 lety +1

    Very entertaining video, thanks! You could use the sensor to get the liquid temperature just to know how the computer coolers compare with the old fan.

  • @rjm842
    @rjm842 Před 5 lety

    I have several stc-1k units and you can set them so there is no delay between reading and triggering the relay. I think from memory it is option 3 if you hold down the set button.
    But you have probably already solved this or happy without changing things.
    Great video again

  • @ApprenticeGM
    @ApprenticeGM Před 4 lety +5

    Great video as always Tony!
    1) 3db = twice as loud. So 1 db is discernibly louder (re your angle grinders).
    2) Different frequencies sound louder to the human ear even though they are the same loudness (db). So, perhaps your corded angle grinder was outputting higher frequencies which you perceive as louder.
    3) Re #2 you can account for that by measuring using A-weighting on the phone if the app has it, or buy a sound level meter which has it.
    4) You should be a bit more Tony when measuring your angle grinders by ensuring the noise output part (spinning disc? Motor?) is the same distance from the mic / phone (you were a bit lackadaisical on that in this video!)

  • @79366813arizona
    @79366813arizona Před 6 lety +18

    I wonder why I expected water to pour out of the drilled hole.

  • @oleandersen3777
    @oleandersen3777 Před 4 lety

    As a former industrial welder fabricator...I enjoy your videos and admire your knowledge also your craftsmanship...thank you for your videos.

  • @fishfuxors
    @fishfuxors Před 4 lety

    Your work table would make an ossum desktop background.