Personally I love LABS. I use it on most of my beats and love the sounds, some of which are super unique and all of which sound amazing. They’re all free, I don’t know what expansions you’re talking about but they’re not LABS and would probably just be Spitfire Audios paid plugins for professional composers and stuff. They also have some more modestly priced plugins in the $30 range.
Yeah, and their BBC Symphonic orchestra is probably the best free vst for making orchestral drill beats or anything with classical instruments really. Only God knows how long I spent looking for a good cello sound on these types of synths before I got it.
Choosing your favorite VSTs is like getting dressed in the morning, you're not picking mine, and I'm not picking yours. If we are all being individuals, our lists will all be very different. The rankings you chose were very helpful, regardless of what style I’m attempting. I appreciate what you do Navie, so I appreciate your list and this video. I’ve been sending hate mail to Servida for years, is this my cue to stop? F' 3xOsc.
ollol I hope no one is actually sending him hate mail, he is a lovely chap. But I definitely know what you mean, I just wanted to try my best to provide someone who is new to beatmaking a rough guide as to which plugins they may wanna check out
Arcade is a S Rank for me helps alot to add more character and depth with the Vocals chops& Crazy dope loops plus u can automation everything on smoothly
I think if you are coming from a producer and not sound designer perspective, this list makes a lot of sense. Otherwise some things like Serum would be even higher.
Yeah, like @Graut said, this is from the perspective of a beatmaker. If my intention is to make beats, easily finding sounds to make a beat is going to be more important. Whereas if this was from the perspective of a sound designer, this list would be vastly different
@@NavieD thats why most beatmakers are trash with no personality. They use presets which are used by many people and they never build character to their style and thats what differs successful producers and EDM producers
@@zanex3270 thats just completely false imo. Most people that use presets manipulate them quite a bit, whether that be in the plugin itself or with post processing. So i really don't see anything wrong with starting with a good sound to make something, rather than trying to manipulate the basic initial preset on every plugin
I've seen a lot of people don't even care about 3x osc but I must admit that recently I've got a lot of respect to the plugin. I find it pretty epic for making mad sub basses for trap beats and boy they are crazy.
Didn’t see Electra on this list but you can really do a lot with it sound design wise and the amount of preset banks out there is great. I agree with this list for the most part keep up the good content
Navie D. It’s no worries you haven’t used it, it’s just a synthesizer at the end of the day, and the default presets aren’t that good but It def shines in sound design and presets like I said because so many people have affordable kits like Ave mcree, Based Gutta, brobeatz, etc.. after a couple days of purchasing I’m loving it. Serum can probably do the trick better with sound design, but the amount of 3rd party preset banks with modern sounds for trap instead of EDM is nice. Up to you, I know you already have plenty VSTS and can sound design using FL stock plugins. Amazing toy for sure though
This simplifies my choices. Wanted to buy Serum due to its popularity but didn't really see what am I going to be using it for. While on the other hand, I see people put 3-4 instances of Omnispehere on the channel rack and do pretty much everything(pads, melodies, fills, etc) except drums with it. Nice that Xpand got an A : ), got it for free when I bought an audio interface.
Sytrus and Serum is the best for me. SeamlessR. Have u ever heard that guy? Sytrus is the most powerfull if u mastering this plugin. U can make EVERYTHING what u want. And you can use dx7(?) presets. And the low cpu usage... Serum: You can use as a synth. U can drop a sample on it and create a very rich sounding vocal chop. You can also make drums. Aaand as u said, this is also an fx plugin. You can use these for beat making as well. But yupp. Better for electronic music. They are S+ for me. But this video is good. I leave a like also, not just my opinion.✋
Fair enough! I can see how you could make use of it if you are a more experienced producer. I would say that if I was just starting making beats and didn't understand how VSTs work in terms of flow, it could be really confusing. And that was the perspective I wanted to take into consideration, what should a new producer use
harmor can do alot of things like resynthesizing voice, images like serum, audio clip, wave files, and also can do manual tuning like melodyne and vocoder, it is a god tier synth from image line
I think you could do a part 2 of this video for sure. I think someone already mentioned ElectraX. Some dope vsts to think about would be Analog Lab, Korg Triton, Kontakt, and Nexus 3 off the top. Not sure if you own all those but just some ideas 😂 You could even do an effects tier list! Nice video bro cheers from Portland.
@@generalq8933 You not wrong, but Nexus had it's time in the spotlight back in the early 2010's because it's a good plugin with solid sounds and still has better sounds in my opinion. But opinions are buttholes so in the end I guess this convo doesn't't really matter.
Pianoteq, its insane. I have Pianoteq 6 pro, its only 124mb but the amount of pianos and other instruments it has is crazy. Pianoteq 7 just came out recently too.
I’m just gettin started with making beats on FL and personally I like Triton, XPand, Purity, and IOTA the best. I haven’t bought omnisphere Keyscape and Kontakt would be the best for trap because they’re the ones I hear about the most
Consider adding Nexus to your "plugins to get" list. The only thing with Kontakt is some of the higher quality libraries are expensive and and large. They can range from a few mb to a few gb. If you don't have a large amount of disk space you might be trouble.
@@A_Class216 Nexus does not have OSC or etc but built in EQ and Effects ( from Reverb / Delay to compression etc ). So it is very useful and easy to get. You handle everything in one place...
Navie D. def a c or b just because its easy to learn if youre new to synthesizers and because you can get great sounds from it. Especially great 808s and subs. I think its great for beat making, and many producers use synths for rap beats not just dance/ edm. Anyways still great content, all love.
because it has a different sample rate from 44.1khz i believe, so it basically adds color to whatever u do. bad if u want something specific, good if ur an idiot like me
Absolutely wrong. The 3x Osc does basic sine wave 100% right. What you're referring to is artifact called "aliasing", that chirping effect when you are using other waveforms than sine in this synth, and it's very noticeable when playing high notes. It's removed after rendering a song or pattern. Aliasing is encoded into 3x Osc itself in order for it to use less CPU. Recent update of FL actually includes an HQ button in 3x Osc, which enables "anti-aliasing in real-time" option thus getting rid of these weird artifacts.
@@nickcollins9893 The point was just that it wasn't clean and I didn't know why, since other plugins didn't have noticeable aliasing. How computationally hard is a sine wave? Lol. It's good they have a HQ button now to turn off aliasing, but I'd rather use Sytrus or Harmor anyways. Sytrus is nice, still need to try out designing sounds in Harmor more.
@@user-lt2rw5nr9s 3x Osc doesn't have any aliasing when you dealing with sine waves, since it's just one harmonic. If something is happening in high frequencies when you using sine wave, it is most likely unaudible and shouldn't bother you that much :D Sytrus is capable of having aliased sound too, if you turn off oversampling. Also, I feel like 3x Osc wasn't exactly the synth that Image-Line paid much attention to, maybe since 2003 (talking about computationally hard waveforms). I could be wrong :) It was introduced in Fruity Loops 3 in 2000, and only got one update somewhere in mid 2000-s (phase randomness knob), and then complete UI overhaul with introduction of FL Studio 12.
I'll just speak based on what I use, number one has to be xpand2 for me. Very affordable, so many sounds, top class, I'll grade it an A. I'll also rate Purity highly, the sounds are good for hip hop and afro beat. Finally, lounge lizard, the best piano vst, good sounds and very easy to use.
@@NavieD For sure, the main thing to always note when using it, is right clicking on the knobs and hitting "edit articulate" and drawing simple shapes, give it a lot of character with little effort
Get serato dj software to sample songs you can adjust the tempo and it detects the tempo automatically, and its never been off for me. You can record samples all day long
Great, super objective take on this and I appreciate you taking the time to explain to your audience how you rating them. It seems many of the comments below just saw you C or D tier their favourites and the flames came out. Some of the responses are actually bordering on arrogance. I think the majority of the audience got exactly what you were trying to put across. Good job and great video as always Navie. Thank you!
Wonderful video sir, Thank you. I have bought XPand!2 something like 4 USD couple of years ago ( no joking ) and as a 3rd world country citizen you guys have no idea how wonderful it is :)) And I love it. I like the sounds I like the manipulation of the sounds etc. I totally recommend it. Nexus and Spire should be on the list as well I guess at A or B level. But that is my opinion for sure. Lastly, 3xOSC is life :)))
I’m a bit turned off as someone who owns a lot of these plugins myself, There were things you were so incorrect on it was rather unacceptable, considering people “trust” your knowledge, it is imperative not to misinform those who are learning... Ex: Natives “Battery 4” Drum VST... The description you gave was not even remotely accurate... You are NOT stuck with the sounds they give and you like a rompler and you absolutely CAN add your OWN SAMPLES to any of the pads and Battery is Not even remotely “outdated” in fact, it’s one of the more sophisticated in it’s category, you mentioned it was rather simple and that is not the case whatsoever, this is probably the most professional and feature rich Virtual Drum Machine on the Market which has caused many to undervalue Battery 4 simply because it offers so many different options including routing each pad to its own channel strip, I ended up creating a Logic Template just to save myself some time with setup when deciding to use Battery instead of DMD... Battery is a bit time consuming to get everything setup the way you want, but the reward is worth the time! Battery offers it’s own internal Bussing if so desired! You can sidechain within, compress within, limit, EQ, individual cell rendering! You can even drop a full loop 🔁 and it will automatically tempo sync, slice, and map each element to its own cell!!! I think 🤔 you should retract or just completely remove the Battery 4, not trying to embarrass you but if you leave that in there you ARE going to lose credibility... Look I understand we are all trying to earn a living and these reviews are money makers until people begin to catch little things here and there that suggest dishonesty. Probably a case of really bad luck here as this is one plugin you certainly can’t pretend review! As you see here, you were not even close in your remarks about this Plugin and It’s a bit upsetting knowing fellow Producers/ Musicians will miss out on a very serious tool as up until now, I actually never questioned any of the advice or production tips in your other videos. Now I’m not exactly sure if I trust what you say considering the fact I know you did not tell the truth and then knocked NI product 🤷♂️ I find that quite twisted to not only pretend review a Product but give it a poor review on top of it. Ps... The comment you made along the lines of “feel free to tell me how wrong I am in the comments below” Now comes off as a manipulative way of deflecting a reply just like mine where I’m simply calling you out and those who may not know what I’m talking about might consider me to be nit picking but this is NOT nit picking, you lied... Can you please own it? Maybe give the plugin a real try and then tell us?
Hey, thanks for taking the time and reaching out. After reading your comment a few times, I think there are a few things happening here. You mentioned adding in additional sounds, FX tools, as well as setting up templates as benefits. From my perspective, these types of benefits aren't as valuable with the proliferation of sample sites and modern DAW capabilities. Adding in your own sounds is great, but in terms of Battery's value at its price, it would now become dependent on the user finding other good sounds outside of the stock library (which they would likely have to pay for). This is why I said that you are stuck with the sounds it offers. I was talking from a value perspective, not a function perspective (and I agree I wasn't clear here. So far that, I take ownership). Adding in templates and effects are great, but I could just use the FPC to trigger drum samples and set up templates/individual FXs with that in a similar way. I agree with what you're thinking, it's a lot more crude and inefficient, but I am taking price into consideration, since I know my audience is sensitive to it. Paying $200+ for this, I would expect more. I understand what Battery does, and I agree it's a fine enough tool. If I undersold what it can do in my review, it's because I am undersold on what it can do for my audience. You said it's the most sophisticated in it's category. I would agree with you, it is very sophisticated. But my argument is that this entire category of plugin is becoming outdated. With where we are today, and what else you could buy with your money that will have a bigger impact on one's production, it's not something I would recommend. I would get a lot more out of something like Xpand!2 for a fraction of the price compared to Battery. Or just signing up for Splice. And this is why I said “feel free to tell me how wrong I am in the comments below”. It was partly a joke, but partly because of this type of situation. It's a bit unfair to think someone is a manipulative liar, and to paint them in the most negative light due to this. If you disagree with my execution, then fair. But to then take it a step further and imply that my intentions are malevolent, and that I am trying to manipulate and lie? I think that's a bit unfair. I would ask that you consider using the "principle of charity" in these types of situations. If you no longer want to follow my channel because of this, feel free to do so. I wish you the best on your beatmaking journey Mike.
Wow, just straight out say the man is deliberately dishonest and lying? Damn. Navie thanks for putting into context the way I think most of us understood it!
Navie D. Haha yeah thats so tru. Theres a ton of really dated trance patches that have seen a resurgence due to hyper pop who knows maybe nexus 2021 lool.
I got XPAND!2 for a STEAL. I bought an ALESIS v25 in 2019 for $100, and it came with XPAND!2 and a bunch of expansions for it! I didn't use it for the first 2 months, but once I used it I fell in love with it
Thank you Dairy! I would say to go with Xpand if you don't want to shell out too much money. If you have the money to spend, Omnisphere has everything for like any type of genre
Very nice reviews. Uvi falcon nexus electra are great for presets and design. Falcon is a doozy but still produces beautiful sound. Vps avenger as well
Iota mini is the vst i would recommand for a beginner producer. It's free and it has really good sounds for trap, but you can't manipulate them (only reverb & cutoff)
Harmor and Sytrus, yeah, their interface can be slightly confusing. People like Seamless or SJT would probably disagree with previous statement :D Sylenth is actually awesome, and it's geared towards any music you like, and you mistakenly showed the version 2.0. UI was updated in version 3, and it looks just like in small picture from your tier list. Less contrast, less brighter colors, pleasantly looking font. And, by the way! Just because poor little 3x Osc doesn't have any built-in effects, thousand of presets that you could spend whole century clicking through, doesn't make it a f-tier synth. The only limit with this synth is your imagination. But again, maybe it's truly a goddamn kryptonite for beatmakers.
3X dragged straight to F tier without further explanation was the best part, I've been using FL Studio since everyone just called it Fruity Loops 5, and never liked that damn thing
For some odd reason, I am not surprised that you would put 3x osc at the bottom tier. As for some of the other plugins that I own, I am glad to use systrus (D tier), Harmor ( tier C) and xpandi2 (tier A).
Pro q 3, pro l 2, NDSP amp sims, pigments, serum, diva, ez drummer, ez bass, EW Hollywood Opus, Some Spitfire stuff (BBCSO Core, AR2 Core, some originals), RC-20, Super VHS, SSL Native Bus Compressor
Thanks for this. Good information from a unique perspective. I wonder if you've ever looked at Falcon. I have Omnisphere, and love it, but somehow Falcon has become my go-to. Definitely more "sample-friendly"' than Omnisphere, and, I think, more beat friendly as well. Perhaps not as user-friendly as Omnisphere. Probably on sale more often. If Omnisphere is in the "S" tier, I'm thinking you might put Falcon there as well.
When I bought Sektor, it gave me 4 'servers' that I could download and im a little confused as to what this means. Does each server have different presets or are they all just the same thing?
Nice video, i agree with that list. But i was hoping Nexus would be in there too, i think it was the first vst i ever bought and i still use it. But i wouldnt rank it higher than B i think
@@NavieD just your regular synth tbh. Much like a lot of other synths, mostly geared towards EDM but of course can be used for whatever you want. I really like to use it for bass and pluck sounds. But as you said in the video, omnisphere is still the top tier vst. I just happened to acquire spire long before I acquired omnisphere so it just kinda stuck with me as a regular tool.
Bro could you make a tutorial on how to mix any sample .. like the most common ways to do that .. Also about leveling and mixing/mastring Beat's using samples in general .. ? I will be glad man 🌹
I’ve been watching quite a bunch of videos of yours and I find them pretty much on point but this one is definitely the worst, specially considering your approach to beat making. This video is really much about factory presets and library navigation. If You put this video under this perspective it totally makes sense. But this time you are mixing apple, oranges, cars and airplanes. And I find that noobs get really confusing ideas about what to buy from contents like this: how can you compare 15 yo SYNTHS such as massive and absynth to a modern rompler such as omnisphere(which is not but here it has been used just as that), you didn’t mention nexus and so on. Long story short: I find your other contents: on point, well explained, with a nice approach and everything good I consider in this kind of video productions but this one felt to me as a cheeky click bait even though a slightly different title could have made such a big difference to me. Keep up with the good work! Cheers from Italy. No hard feelings at all, actually it is the opposite
I know this video is 2 years old, but my addition would be: Phase Plant (S) (because you can do everything with it, only thing they could add would be other stretch modes for sampler then repitch), Vital (A), almost same as Serum but its goddamn free and more possibilities for modulation and better visual feedback but very synthetic sounds, Massive X (C) many presets but pretty steep price and learnng curve i would say, the routing is kind of annoying as well, then of course Kontakt (S) why isnt it on the list?
Some of the sounds in LABS ARE manipulable. If you press on the reverb icon(the big knob on the interface), you get some controls which change according to different sounds. And I have been using LABS for 6 months, never had to pay for an expansion.
For sure, my gripe is just how limited it is comparatively to the other plugins. I can definitely see how others would value it more though. I had a feeling that one would rustle some feathers
What would you rank as your S-tier, top rated plugin?
P.S. Please direct all hatemail to my twitter > twitter.com/ServidaMusic
ok i gotchu
Sent a bunch of hatemails. Thank me later 😉.
Sorry, but why ask viewers to send hatemail to another CZcamsr Simon Servida??
LMAO ☠️
@@lesfuller5984 its a jk
This man forgot Electra X and nexus
And kontakt
i hate ElectraX and Nexus is on every song from 2010-2020 so I get it 😂
And analog lab
damn my guy really did 3x osc like that. smh
For real, that was so cold 😂
I regret nothing
3x osc is 🗑🚮 lol
Personally I love LABS. I use it on most of my beats and love the sounds, some of which are super unique and all of which sound amazing. They’re all free, I don’t know what expansions you’re talking about but they’re not LABS and would probably just be Spitfire Audios paid plugins for professional composers and stuff. They also have some more modestly priced plugins in the $30 range.
this ^^
Spitfire also has sales pretty often so you can grab them for less
Fair enough! I guess for my style I didn't get as much use out of it, but I could see how it could be really useful for others
Yeah, and their BBC Symphonic orchestra is probably the best free vst for making orchestral drill beats or anything with classical instruments really. Only God knows how long I spent looking for a good cello sound on these types of synths before I got it.
Choosing your favorite VSTs is like getting dressed in the morning, you're not picking mine, and I'm not picking yours. If we are all being individuals, our lists will all be very different. The rankings you chose were very helpful, regardless of what style I’m attempting. I appreciate what you do Navie, so I appreciate your list and this video.
I’ve been sending hate mail to Servida for years, is this my cue to stop?
F' 3xOsc.
ollol I hope no one is actually sending him hate mail, he is a lovely chap. But I definitely know what you mean, I just wanted to try my best to provide someone who is new to beatmaking a rough guide as to which plugins they may wanna check out
Navie D. Ha! I don’t think anyone is... my guess is that everyone got the joke as it was intended. Appreciate you.
Arcade is a S Rank for me helps alot to add more character and depth with the Vocals chops& Crazy dope loops plus u can automation everything on smoothly
I bought Omnisphere as my first cash-plugin and this video makes me feel good about my decision :D
Hahah honestly it might be all that you need
its good but takes up so much space
for someone like you who knows sound design, you seem to care about presets a bit too much
I think if you are coming from a producer and not sound designer perspective, this list makes a lot of sense. Otherwise some things like Serum would be even higher.
Yeah, like @Graut said, this is from the perspective of a beatmaker. If my intention is to make beats, easily finding sounds to make a beat is going to be more important. Whereas if this was from the perspective of a sound designer, this list would be vastly different
@@NavieD thats why most beatmakers are trash with no personality. They use presets which are used by many people and they never build character to their style and thats what differs successful producers and EDM producers
@@zanex3270 thats just completely false imo. Most people that use presets manipulate them quite a bit, whether that be in the plugin itself or with post processing. So i really don't see anything wrong with starting with a good sound to make something, rather than trying to manipulate the basic initial preset on every plugin
@@zanex3270 Facts.
I've seen a lot of people don't even care about 3x osc but I must admit that recently I've got a lot of respect to the plugin. I find it pretty epic for making mad sub basses for trap beats and boy they are crazy.
Didn’t see Electra on this list but you can really do a lot with it sound design wise and the amount of preset banks out there is great. I agree with this list for the most part keep up the good content
Electra and Omni are probably the best for amount of presets for trap music.
Thank you Han! I don't think I have ever used Electra now that I think about it. Worth checking out in your opinion?
Navie D. It’s no worries you haven’t used it, it’s just a synthesizer at the end of the day, and the default presets aren’t that good but It def shines in sound design and presets like I said because so many people have affordable kits like Ave mcree, Based Gutta, brobeatz, etc.. after a couple days of purchasing I’m loving it. Serum can probably do the trick better with sound design, but the amount of 3rd party preset banks with modern sounds for trap instead of EDM is nice. Up to you, I know you already have plenty VSTS and can sound design using FL stock plugins. Amazing toy for sure though
could you do ranking on effect plugins like Waves Bundle too? thank you!😁
Oooh good Idea, I like it I like it
@@NavieD Definitely
By your logic, you’d score Falcon by UVI for being expensive and the most complex workstation on the market a Z.
Serum is a b grade and sylenth is a d???? You really shouldn't do a synth review if you don't know anything about synthesis
Exactly
I agree with you. The statement "The sounds are more geared towards EDM" basically says. I don't really know how synths work.
Amen
Video of the Day ❤
Serum comes in my S category ☺️
I enjoy slapping Serum on as an effect, super underrated as an effects tool
@@NavieD Great bro! ✌️🏼
U r super cool as ur videos 😍
This simplifies my choices. Wanted to buy Serum due to its popularity but didn't really see what am I going to be using it for. While on the other hand, I see people put 3-4 instances of Omnispehere on the channel rack and do pretty much everything(pads, melodies, fills, etc) except drums with it. Nice that Xpand got an A : ), got it for free when I bought an audio interface.
Hahah nice, Xpand is awesome. But yeah, Omnisphere is my go-to
Sytrus and Serum is the best for me.
SeamlessR. Have u ever heard that guy? Sytrus is the most powerfull if u mastering this plugin. U can make EVERYTHING what u want. And you can use dx7(?) presets. And the low cpu usage...
Serum:
You can use as a synth. U can drop a sample on it and create a very rich sounding vocal chop. You can also make drums. Aaand as u said, this is also an fx plugin.
You can use these for beat making as well. But yupp. Better for electronic music. They are S+ for me.
But this video is good. I leave a like also, not just my opinion.✋
Thank you Kris!
Sytrus is God Tier. Especially for the type of production I'm into. But everyone has their opinion. I agree with the rest though.
Fair enough! I can see how you could make use of it if you are a more experienced producer. I would say that if I was just starting making beats and didn't understand how VSTs work in terms of flow, it could be really confusing. And that was the perspective I wanted to take into consideration, what should a new producer use
Yup, depends on genre and the producer, like Hardstyle use Sylenth alot, Diva for techno and Anjuna deep stuff, Spire mostly for Trance
harmor can do alot of things like resynthesizing voice, images like serum, audio clip, wave files, and also can do manual tuning like melodyne and vocoder,
it is a god tier synth from image line
I think you could do a part 2 of this video for sure. I think someone already mentioned ElectraX. Some dope vsts to think about would be Analog Lab, Korg Triton, Kontakt, and Nexus 3 off the top. Not sure if you own all those but just some ideas 😂 You could even do an effects tier list! Nice video bro cheers from Portland.
Where's Nexus?
20x the price of xpand2 to and as limited in functionality.
@@generalq8933 You not wrong, but Nexus had it's time in the spotlight back in the early 2010's because it's a good plugin with solid sounds and still has better sounds in my opinion. But opinions are buttholes so in the end I guess this convo doesn't't really matter.
0:24 the “ease of use” sound effect got me feeling some type of way 🥴
😉 Would it make you feel another type of way if I told you that was my voice
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I really like your content man you actually give out a lot of value thanks and keep it up!
Thank you Maws! It's nice to see people stop by and get value out of my videos
It's like you have a direct line into my mind and know the exact content I want.
No nexus, kontakt, triton, purity,
honestly kontakt is the only thing you need
@@prod.pastel9261 kontakt is super dope but.. me personally I still need other vsts
@@prod.pastel9261 did you buy kontakt?
@@hushko hell no crack that shit
@@prod.pastel9261 i tried but its regural kontakt player
Have you heard of Electra x? I would rank it either a tier or b tier
Ooooh thats a pretty high ranking. I should check it out
Pianoteq, its insane. I have Pianoteq 6 pro, its only 124mb but the amount of pianos and other instruments it has is crazy. Pianoteq 7 just came out recently too.
Ooh I don't think I've heard of this. I should check it out
Harmor would easily be S tier if it wasn't for that awful interface
Yeah that thing is confusing as all hell
Xpand!2 is Omnisphere light. Very light. But I use it on almost every beat. If some money blows my way I will get Omnisphere.
If I didn't have to buy another laptop. I would've bought Omnisphere.
@@infergnojinn7745 A better laptop is better than Omnisphere. You'd probably have a max of 1 or 2 instances on an older laptop.
True. Having a thiccc computer is great. I can load up so many plugins and not have to worry about it slowing down
Yeah that's the way I see it too. If someone doesn't want to spend all that money on Omnisphere, Xpand is a good VST to dip your toes in
I approve. Xpand!2 is kind of underrated.
Always with dope videos and informations !
Thank you my friend! It's different than my usual type of video but hopefully you liked it!
Sylenth1 has nice sounds...I just wish they really made the interface easier to use and on the eyes....
It is truly awful to look at
Don’t you like any of the skins?
I’m just gettin started with making beats on FL and personally I like Triton, XPand, Purity, and IOTA the best. I haven’t bought omnisphere Keyscape and Kontakt would be the best for trap because they’re the ones I hear about the most
Consider adding Nexus to your "plugins to get" list. The only thing with Kontakt is some of the higher quality libraries are expensive and and large. They can range from a few mb to a few gb. If you don't have a large amount of disk space you might be trouble.
Hmm another person mentioned IOTA. Is it worth checking out in your opinion?
@@NavieD Definitely. I’m new to VSTs but it’s got some good sounds and is worth testing since it’s free
@@rkader6828 Hearing it first time and will look into it. Thanks.
@@A_Class216 Nexus does not have OSC or etc but built in EQ and Effects ( from Reverb / Delay to compression etc ). So it is very useful and easy to get. You handle everything in one place...
Dope video man 💪🏼💯
Thanks for thisss mannnn. Doing my research for black friday lol
True, I gotta buy some more junk on black friday as well
definitely underated sylenth1
What tier would you rank it?
Navie D. def a c or b just because its easy to learn if youre new to synthesizers and because you can get great sounds from it. Especially great 808s and subs. I think its great for beat making, and many producers use synths for rap beats not just dance/ edm. Anyways still great content, all love.
@@NavieD 1st part of travis scott stargazing melody is made in sylenth 😀
B
I always have to put a lowpass on 3xosc because there's some weird stuff going on in the high end. It can't even do a basic sine wave right.
ollol yeah, a true F tier vst if I ever seen one
because it has a different sample rate from 44.1khz i believe, so it basically adds color to whatever u do. bad if u want something specific, good if ur an idiot like me
Absolutely wrong. The 3x Osc does basic sine wave 100% right. What you're referring to is artifact called "aliasing", that chirping effect when you are using other waveforms than sine in this synth, and it's very noticeable when playing high notes. It's removed after rendering a song or pattern.
Aliasing is encoded into 3x Osc itself in order for it to use less CPU. Recent update of FL actually includes an HQ button in 3x Osc, which enables "anti-aliasing in real-time" option thus getting rid of these weird artifacts.
@@nickcollins9893 The point was just that it wasn't clean and I didn't know why, since other plugins didn't have noticeable aliasing. How computationally hard is a sine wave? Lol. It's good they have a HQ button now to turn off aliasing, but I'd rather use Sytrus or Harmor anyways. Sytrus is nice, still need to try out designing sounds in Harmor more.
@@user-lt2rw5nr9s 3x Osc doesn't have any aliasing when you dealing with sine waves, since it's just one harmonic. If something is happening in high frequencies when you using sine wave, it is most likely unaudible and shouldn't bother you that much :D
Sytrus is capable of having aliased sound too, if you turn off oversampling.
Also, I feel like 3x Osc wasn't exactly the synth that Image-Line paid much attention to, maybe since 2003 (talking about computationally hard waveforms). I could be wrong :) It was introduced in Fruity Loops 3 in 2000, and only got one update somewhere in mid 2000-s (phase randomness knob), and then complete UI overhaul with introduction of FL Studio 12.
I'll just speak based on what I use, number one has to be xpand2 for me.
Very affordable, so many sounds, top class, I'll grade it an A.
I'll also rate Purity highly, the sounds are good for hip hop and afro beat.
Finally, lounge lizard, the best piano vst, good sounds and very easy to use.
I love Xpand as well. Just good value for its price
harmor & omnisphere are my fav synth of all time, made the best sounds out of it
Harmor can make some cool sounds, but my lord that interface can be really confusing when you try it for the first time
@@NavieD For sure, the main thing to always note when using it, is right clicking on the knobs and hitting "edit articulate" and drawing simple shapes, give it a lot of character with little effort
Get serato dj software to sample songs you can adjust the tempo and it detects the tempo automatically, and its never been off for me. You can record samples all day long
You’re blowing up and I like that! Keep up the good work
Thank you Dyski!
Great, super objective take on this and I appreciate you taking the time to explain to your audience how you rating them. It seems many of the comments below just saw you C or D tier their favourites and the flames came out. Some of the responses are actually bordering on arrogance. I think the majority of the audience got exactly what you were trying to put across. Good job and great video as always Navie. Thank you!
Thank you Lee! A video like this is always going to anger people
3x Osc ouch haha. Great vid as always. Serato sample and Analog lab are pretty good
Hahah I regret nothing. Thanks AK!
Vacuum pro is pretty cool but it's extremely difficult to manipulate if you don't know what you're doing.
I actually clicked to find out why omnisphere was rated B.
Guess I was dumb expecting the thumbnail would represent the actual video 😅
u just got pranked bro
Smart move 😂 took the bait like a fish
Me 2
Wonderful video sir, Thank you.
I have bought XPand!2 something like 4 USD couple of years ago ( no joking ) and as a 3rd world country citizen you guys have no idea how wonderful it is :)) And I love it. I like the sounds I like the manipulation of the sounds etc. I totally recommend it.
Nexus and Spire should be on the list as well I guess at A or B level. But that is my opinion for sure.
Lastly, 3xOSC is life :)))
Oooh yeah, Xpand is so good, glad to see you are enjoying it! I don't regret my 3xOsc placement
@@NavieD hahaha fair enough my friend. Take care and keep going.
ive made some great tracks with expand. Honestly the octave stacks adds so much depth. It has its uses for sure
I’m a bit turned off as someone who owns a lot of these plugins myself, There were things you were so incorrect on it was rather unacceptable, considering people “trust” your knowledge, it is imperative not to misinform those who are learning... Ex: Natives “Battery 4” Drum VST... The description you gave was not even remotely accurate... You are NOT stuck with the sounds they give and you like a rompler and you absolutely CAN add your OWN SAMPLES to any of the pads and Battery is Not even remotely “outdated” in fact, it’s one of the more sophisticated in it’s category, you mentioned it was rather simple and that is not the case whatsoever, this is probably the most professional and feature rich Virtual Drum Machine on the Market which has caused many to undervalue Battery 4 simply because it offers so many different options including routing each pad to its own channel strip, I ended up creating a Logic Template just to save myself some time with setup when deciding to use Battery instead of DMD... Battery is a bit time consuming to get everything setup the way you want, but the reward is worth the time! Battery offers it’s own internal Bussing if so desired! You can sidechain within, compress within, limit, EQ, individual cell rendering! You can even drop a full loop 🔁 and it will automatically tempo sync, slice, and map each element to its own cell!!! I think 🤔 you should retract or just completely remove the Battery 4, not trying to embarrass you but if you leave that in there you ARE going to lose credibility... Look I understand we are all trying to earn a living and these reviews are money makers until people begin to catch little things here and there that suggest dishonesty. Probably a case of really bad luck here as this is one plugin you certainly can’t pretend review! As you see here, you were not even close in your remarks about this Plugin and It’s a bit upsetting knowing fellow Producers/ Musicians will miss out on a very serious tool as up until now, I actually never questioned any of the advice or production tips in your other videos. Now I’m not exactly sure if I trust what you say considering the fact I know you did not tell the truth and then knocked NI product 🤷♂️ I find that quite twisted to not only pretend review a Product but give it a poor review on top of it.
Ps... The comment you made along the lines of “feel free to tell me how wrong I am in the comments below” Now comes off as a manipulative way of deflecting a reply just like mine where I’m simply calling you out and those who may not know what I’m talking about might consider me to be nit picking but this is NOT nit picking, you lied... Can you please own it? Maybe give the plugin a real try and then tell us?
Hey, thanks for taking the time and reaching out. After reading your comment a few times, I think there are a few things happening here.
You mentioned adding in additional sounds, FX tools, as well as setting up templates as benefits. From my perspective, these types of benefits aren't as valuable with the proliferation of sample sites and modern DAW capabilities. Adding in your own sounds is great, but in terms of Battery's value at its price, it would now become dependent on the user finding other good sounds outside of the stock library (which they would likely have to pay for). This is why I said that you are stuck with the sounds it offers. I was talking from a value perspective, not a function perspective (and I agree I wasn't clear here. So far that, I take ownership). Adding in templates and effects are great, but I could just use the FPC to trigger drum samples and set up templates/individual FXs with that in a similar way. I agree with what you're thinking, it's a lot more crude and inefficient, but I am taking price into consideration, since I know my audience is sensitive to it. Paying $200+ for this, I would expect more.
I understand what Battery does, and I agree it's a fine enough tool. If I undersold what it can do in my review, it's because I am undersold on what it can do for my audience. You said it's the most sophisticated in it's category. I would agree with you, it is very sophisticated. But my argument is that this entire category of plugin is becoming outdated. With where we are today, and what else you could buy with your money that will have a bigger impact on one's production, it's not something I would recommend. I would get a lot more out of something like Xpand!2 for a fraction of the price compared to Battery. Or just signing up for Splice.
And this is why I said “feel free to tell me how wrong I am in the comments below”. It was partly a joke, but partly because of this type of situation. It's a bit unfair to think someone is a manipulative liar, and to paint them in the most negative light due to this. If you disagree with my execution, then fair. But to then take it a step further and imply that my intentions are malevolent, and that I am trying to manipulate and lie? I think that's a bit unfair. I would ask that you consider using the "principle of charity" in these types of situations.
If you no longer want to follow my channel because of this, feel free to do so. I wish you the best on your beatmaking journey Mike.
Wow, just straight out say the man is deliberately dishonest and lying? Damn. Navie thanks for putting into context the way I think most of us understood it!
Great informations always bro ! 👌
Thank you DDB!
This man really just rated all the plugins from a standpoint of not watching any tutorials
Of all Fl studio plugins i like just - Sakura and FLEX, "Autogun :))"
Flex is so so underrated
Whre is nexus
Nexus is f tier 😂😂
Hahaha Nexus is so divisive it seems. Some people swear by it
What tier would you rank Nexus
Navie D. Haha yeah thats so tru. Theres a ton of really dated trance patches that have seen a resurgence due to hyper pop who knows maybe nexus 2021 lool.
YOU ARE A GOD... NO QUESTION ABOUT IT
what about HEAT UP 3 ?
I got XPAND!2 for a STEAL. I bought an ALESIS v25 in 2019 for $100, and it came with XPAND!2 and a bunch of expansions for it! I didn't use it for the first 2 months, but once I used it I fell in love with it
Yep, it's the plugin I always recommend to newer producers
Hey man love the content, one question, what is the best plugin for trap music ? In your opinion
Thank you Dairy! I would say to go with Xpand if you don't want to shell out too much money. If you have the money to spend, Omnisphere has everything for like any type of genre
xpand is the best , but I don't see it's presets much
Yea you have to search. I have a few I found over time.
appreciate the honesty
I got Xpand2 for a dollar a couple years ago around Christmas time
Hahah damn, sweet deal
Very nice reviews. Uvi falcon nexus electra are great for presets and design. Falcon is a doozy but still produces beautiful sound. Vps avenger as well
Iota mini is the vst i would recommand for a beginner producer. It's free and it has really good sounds for trap, but you can't manipulate them (only reverb & cutoff)
Oooh I don't think I have seen this mentioned anywhere. I am gonna check it out, thanks Luc!
Aaaah Xpand!2 the broke man's Omnisphere
Hahaha yeah, it's good though, can't lie
I’m bout to buy xpand
Thank you for this! Very helpful to know
Me that only has free vsts:😔
Hahah what is your favourite free VST?
Me who only uses cracked vsts: :/
JUSTICE FOR 3XOSC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would've liked to see Nexus on here but otherwise nice list 👌
Thank you Beanzy! Where would you rank Nexus?
@@NavieD Definitely A tier 💯
@@NavieD B tier honestly. Sucks for beats as most of the sounds are geared towards EDM production.
I would really like to see more of this
Just purchased Xpand for £12 (15$) from your recommendation 😎👌👍
Awesome, I honestly think it's such great value for how little it costs
You are going to love it. I promise.
How would you rate Sakura?
Hmmm I think it's good for a really particular sound, maybe B or C. Where would you rank it?
Navie D. I haven’t used it myself because it is a paid plugin but it seems like a popular plugin among some trap producers on YT.
Great info! Xpand2♡ Lol poor 3xOsc, it's so good tho.
Flex is an underrated plugin
Your insane
Hahah maybe I am, maybe I am
I'm surprised hybrid 3 didn't make this list though
Where would you rank it?
Literally looking for that. I would place same as xPand2 ( they belong to same company )
Harmor and Sytrus, yeah, their interface can be slightly confusing. People like Seamless or SJT would probably disagree with previous statement :D
Sylenth is actually awesome, and it's geared towards any music you like, and you mistakenly showed the version 2.0. UI was updated in version 3, and it looks just like in small picture from your tier list. Less contrast, less brighter colors, pleasantly looking font.
And, by the way! Just because poor little 3x Osc doesn't have any built-in effects, thousand of presets that you could spend whole century clicking through, doesn't make it a f-tier synth. The only limit with this synth is your imagination. But again, maybe it's truly a goddamn kryptonite for beatmakers.
3X dragged straight to F tier without further explanation was the best part, I've been using FL Studio since everyone just called it Fruity Loops 5, and never liked that damn thing
I will continue to bash 3xOsc until my dying days
A very useful lesson for all aspiring softians
For some odd reason, I am not surprised that you would put 3x osc at the bottom tier.
As for some of the other plugins that I own, I am glad to use systrus (D tier), Harmor ( tier C) and xpandi2 (tier A).
Pro q 3, pro l 2, NDSP amp sims, pigments, serum, diva, ez drummer, ez bass, EW Hollywood Opus, Some Spitfire stuff (BBCSO Core, AR2 Core, some originals), RC-20, Super VHS, SSL Native Bus Compressor
Arturia Pigment 2 is good in my opinion, So I agree with the B tier
really helpful bro
Thank you my friendddddddd
we want more of this series
Thanks for this. Good information from a unique perspective. I wonder if you've ever looked at Falcon. I have Omnisphere, and love it, but somehow Falcon has become my go-to. Definitely more "sample-friendly"' than Omnisphere, and, I think, more beat friendly as well. Perhaps not as user-friendly as Omnisphere. Probably on sale more often. If Omnisphere is in the "S" tier, I'm thinking you might put Falcon there as well.
Oooh interesting, I don't think I have even heard of Falcon. I am gonna put this on my watch list
When I bought Sektor, it gave me 4 'servers' that I could download and im a little confused as to what this means. Does each server have different presets or are they all just the same thing?
Nice video man. And you look like Kuumar
Nice video, i agree with that list. But i was hoping Nexus would be in there too, i think it was the first vst i ever bought and i still use it. But i wouldnt rank it higher than B i think
Yeah a lot of people vouch for Nexus. I have personally never used it though : (
Surprised not to see something like spire
Don't think I have heard of Spire. Fill me in!
@@NavieD just your regular synth tbh. Much like a lot of other synths, mostly geared towards EDM but of course can be used for whatever you want. I really like to use it for bass and pluck sounds.
But as you said in the video, omnisphere is still the top tier vst. I just happened to acquire spire long before I acquired omnisphere so it just kinda stuck with me as a regular tool.
Hey, Navie D. Can I ask what stock plugins only use for cleaning the lofi music and please do a tutorial also. I'm making my first lofi music.
I plan on making a full lofi beat tutorial soon so be on the lookout!
@@NavieD Looking up to it although I produce Trance ( totally amateur and talentless but love it, I breath it :)) )
dope vid broda
Thanks Kemyh
Good share 👍👍
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This is where the beef with 3x OSC started 🤣🤣🤣
Bro could you make a tutorial on how to mix any sample .. like the most common ways to do that ..
Also about leveling and mixing/mastring Beat's using samples in general .. ?
I will be glad man 🌹
I love sektor and the expansions are 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sektor is on sale right now for 30$ April 29, 2021
Oooh did you end up picking it up?
@@NavieD just copped it a couple days ago $29.99 🤑
FLEX?
💪 don't mind if I do
Navie D. Hahahah, nah the fl plugin
Please do a part 2 with kontakt best plugin, d16 lush 101, Electra X and nexus, Heat Up 3, Hybrid 3, Purity, Hypersonic, ElectraX
Where would you rank those?
@@NavieD The only one I have is Lush101. If you gave it a C or below I would consider using something else.
xpand!2 getting A made me so happy, we all love brokeboi nexus
I found a plugin called "Surge" it's open source and amazing.. it's like serum/massive and something else
Bro Sylenth is so good, theres so many presets and a lot of hip-hop bangers have been made from it.
I’ve been watching quite a bunch of videos of yours and I find them pretty much on point but this one is definitely the worst, specially considering your approach to beat making. This video is really much about factory presets and library navigation. If You put this video under this perspective it totally makes sense. But this time you are mixing apple, oranges, cars and airplanes. And I find that noobs get really confusing ideas about what to buy from contents like this: how can you compare 15 yo SYNTHS such as massive and absynth to a modern rompler such as omnisphere(which is not but here it has been used just as that), you didn’t mention nexus and so on. Long story short: I find your other contents: on point, well explained, with a nice approach and everything good I consider in this kind of video productions but this one felt to me as a cheeky click bait even though a slightly different title could have made such a big difference to me. Keep up with the good work! Cheers from Italy. No hard feelings at all, actually it is the opposite
I know this video is 2 years old, but my addition would be: Phase Plant (S) (because you can do everything with it, only thing they could add would be other stretch modes for sampler then repitch), Vital (A), almost same as Serum but its goddamn free and more possibilities for modulation and better visual feedback but very synthetic sounds, Massive X (C) many presets but pretty steep price and learnng curve i would say, the routing is kind of annoying as well, then of course Kontakt (S) why isnt it on the list?
Some of the sounds in LABS ARE manipulable. If you press on the reverb icon(the big knob on the interface), you get some controls which change according to different sounds. And I have been using LABS for 6 months, never had to pay for an expansion.
For sure, my gripe is just how limited it is comparatively to the other plugins. I can definitely see how others would value it more though. I had a feeling that one would rustle some feathers
@@NavieD Oh, yeah. I understand. LABS was geared on making Orchestral Music or Calm music.
nice preset tier list buddy
thanks
F-tier is the best tier right? 🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahah 3xOsc deserves to be sent to hell
@@NavieD Oh come on!!!
@@NavieD Nah man. You dumb. It's still good