Mid-November Hunts and Updates, Gearing for Thanksgiving Week | Bowhunting Whitetails w/ Bill Winke
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- We have been hunting through the lull and it has been tough, but we do have some hunts to show you and we offer a few words of encouragement and maybe even advice for Thanksgiving week. I have been looking forward to this coming week all season. Hunt safe and good luck.
I targeted a specific buck last year. (First time) collected info, and last Saturday I put myself in its path. No harvest, but put eyes on him and had about 40 minutes of heaven watching him cross the field beyond bow range. Exhilarating. Thanks for all the inspiration. I dreamt big- 👍 and will continue.
That is awesome Kurt. I hope you get another crack at him. I really enjoy hunting specific deer even if I don't get them. They don't have to be big to make it fun. Good luck.
@@bill-winkeHow do you stay motivated to hunt one deer? I get so defeated when the property I hunt is on the deers fringe home range and I never get daylight activity... once this year I have seen him in daylight.
Sorry about your hunt Carson. Props to you for doing everything in your power to recover that deer. It was a cool hunt and I thought it was neat watching him come to your grunts and stand there lip curling before rubbing that tree. Better luck to you in the future. In the meantime, continue to be a sponge around Bill. He's an amazing steward of the land and has tremendous amount knowledge about Whitetails.
Hunt safe and God bless!
Thanks for the nice comment Brandon. We all appreciate your support. Have a great day.
Thanks Brandon! It’s been a pleasure working with Bill this year and I have enjoyed every minute of it.
It's a F in deer people. If ur such a scum sucker to keep someone off ur precise land u don't deserve that land.
Glad the farmer at least found Carson's buck and gave it to him.
Agreed Jarvis. I think in the end he just didn't know Carsen and didn't want to give him permission to just go searching through his farm without any proof (blood trail) that the buck even went in there.
Great update as always, I'm guessing the coyotes must have got carson's dear. Sad circumstance, At least he got to hunt the property.
Actually, Carsen was hunting the one next to it and the deer ended up running onto the one where the neighboring landowner eventually found it dead and called Carsen. Unfortunate set of conditions.
Bill, been reading your books, articles, etc. for many years. Just wanted to say “thank you” for the recent CZcams videos & watching 1 now that aired about 4 hours ago. Thank you & have a very blessed Thanksgiving 🙏 p.s., love the drone footage too of that gorgeous property!!!
Thanks Lincoln. I appreciate the years of support and the nice comment. I hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving too!
Anytime in the outdoors is a blessing. As i age i respect and am more thankful to be able to chase gods magnificent creatures with family and friends. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there and hope you all have a happy healthy season and dream BIG!
Amen, brother. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Great video,keep pushing Ethan your gunna get him,persistence pays off,so Sunday morning I finally broke the 120s with a id say 5year old 132in 8pt off my lease,been watching him for cpl years now,watching these videos and yalls tactics helped me for sure thanks and good luck 👊
Congrats Scott. That is awesome. We are glad we could help in some small way. Have a great Thanksgiving.
Congrats Scott, thanks for the comment!
There chasing good it's fun watching these young bucks anyway got a front coming today here in East Texas good luck and God bless.
Thanks Rickey. I am sure things will keep getting better for you down there for at least another month right? I have hunted Texas a few times and it seemed that mid-December was the best. Good luck.
I had the same thing happen to me this year, and the landowner wouldn't let me go look.... at least you got your deer! The rules in ohio are the same, if the land owner says no, that's it...... but like I said, least you got your deer!
You can pursue in Iowa by law as long as you have a blood trail and you leave your bow at the fence. You might have to call the game warden though with a tough landowner. I had a neighbor on my southern Iowa farm deny access. I didn't have to ask him, by law, but I did out of courtesy and he said no. Rather than cause a rift, I just let it go. It wasn't my deer and I am not sure it was hit hard enough to die anyway, so no big deal. But it was telling for him to deny access. He was kind of a jackass though.
Hang in there Ethan, great video as always Bill.
Thanks Mitchell. Much appreciated. Have a great day.
I pulled a camera just b4 u were looking @ that fawn. I had the perfect SE wind to do this & the same forked horn buck i spotted SE of me on my way out 2 mile bike ride but i wasnt hunting so i didnt have to drag my cargo cart . Almost 2 weeks up in a 🌳 & all that camera had on it was thar buck. One week b4 that 1/2 mile away that same buck bedded for a while 12 yards away under me. The Ghost with a big track hasnt shown himself to anyone or my camera. I have a 30 mile drive to another area come Friday morning in central MN. My area got blown out b4 i got to my 🌳 from a bowhunter who trampled through my area & he sure was shocked to see me @ the base of my tree packing up when he showed himself. It’s important on public land to work with others & let them know what your plans r. I won't be hunting that particular spot but i showed him a better way to access his area so he won't be walking early in the afternoon upwind of bedding. There is standing corn just SW of my area on private land. They mowed the 15 outside rows of it last week. So I'm going to setup close to bedding but a couple hundred yards from that 😅 corn far south from thst other hunter. I really need to shoot a doe & close to 🏡 the doe herd bedding off by houses on private land r nothing u can rely on. Corn is king this time of year. Thanks alot for the updates. It's the same thing I'm feeling, w/o seeing. 😅
Thanks for the update and good luck Joseph. Corn is indeed king from now until the season ends. Have a great day.
These updates are great. Thanks
We appreciate the support and comment Kevin. Have a great day.
Man, such good content. Mastering the camera and editing.
Thanks. We all appreciate the support and comment. Have a great day.
My brother took a 218" giant, green score, here in Indiana yesterday. Just excited for him, wanted to share with you too! Thanks for the videos, I really enjoy them!
That is awesome. Please tell him congrats from us. I wish you could post photos on the comment section I would love to see it. I am sure everyone here would.
@@bill-winke if I had a way to post it to you I sure would!!
Great video as always Bill.
Thanks. I appreciate it. Good luck and have a great day.
Carsen as an Individual unarmed shooter of the wounded animal CAN NOT be prohibited from pursuing a wounded animal onto neighboring property with the intent to recover the animal. If faced with this again call the local game warden. There is nothing wrong with being a good and understanding neighbor and waiting until dark so as not to ruin another hunter's sit but 7 days later is unacceptable. Great channel by the way. I've read your articles for years Bill! Happy Holidays to you all!!
is that state specific? Michigan, you cant go looking if they say no..
Technically, that is not true. He still has to be able to show proof that the deer went into the neighbor's land in the first place. Carsen was not able to do that because the blood trail dried up and ended before it got to the fence. It was only a hunch on Carsen's part where the deer went, but no actual proof. Also, not all states have the same law when it comes to crossing property lines.
@@bill-winke I thought he had blood to the property line. In that case you are correct. I am in Iowa and I was referring to Iowa. Yeah without proof the animal crossed over the line he was at the mercy of the land owner.
I would’ve called the wildlife department and told them I needed to retrieve a down deer ! That wasn’t fair of the land owner at all
I believe the law in Iowa only allows you to enter private land in pursuit if you have a blood trail. Unfortunately, Carsen's blood trail died off before the neighbor's fence.
@@bill-winke awful to hear that! Unfair and up here in the Northeast I believe we (With D.E.M ) are allowed to pursue! Keep up the good work !
@@stefanosoderi4152 But I bet you still need proof that the deer actually crossed the property line.
i didnt see anything for the last few days last week, it seems like they started moving better again on the 17th. from the 17th on i been getting some night time pics again and seeing deer both morn and eve.
I am expecting (hoping) things open back up around the 22nd. Most years they are back to cruising a little then and for sure heading to food. Good luck.
Ahab is the guy chasing the white whale or Gregory Peck. Your nowhere near that wound up though Ethan. 😂
You haven't seen him when the camera isn't on him. Foaming at the mouth and ranting something incoherent about a buck called "Flyer". Pitiful.
hello bill what is name of that electric 4 wheel atv called that you stand on with seat propped up
That is called a Xidar. You can see more about them here: www.goxidar.com/
Princess Bride, " I have been in the revenge business so long, now that it's over, I don't know what to do with the rest of my life".
That's Ethan if he kills the Flyers buck.
Question: you’re about to start riding or walking to an area you’re planning to hunt. You get a pic from cell camera that your target is on camera by your stand. What do you do? Give it 30 minutes… and go on in, hunt somewhere else, wait until daylight then walk in…. Appreciate some guidance as this has happened twice this year. Thanks in advance.
I don't think you can't hunt there for fear of bumping him out. I would hunt nearby in the closest stand or blind that sets up for that wind. Or, as you state, you could go in after daylight and use your binos, but that doesn't mean you will see him before he sees you. Personally, I would just hunt somewhere else and save that spot. Good luck.
Why have we not got any info or update on why we haven’t seen Jordan hunt at all this season…preseason videos were all about what Bill was hunting and what she was hunting but so far no Jordan…great season so far to watch but please give update
I know, it stinks. She needs to make an appearance again. She separated her right shoulder in early October and recently as she was getting back to normal strength in the shoulder she got a grade 4 stress fracture in her sacral ala bone (hip area). She got that from running. Things were going well but probably her mileage got to be too high because she just loves running. She does best on low mileage faster pace. Anyway, now she is on crutches. Possibly, I can get her to a blind late season if she gets back to shooting.
@@bill-winke Omgosh yes I do remember you saying something about that…my apologies…tell her we wish her a speedy recovery I’m sure this isn’t the season she had planned…great series keep it up Bill
I lost a 165 inch buck because a landowner wouldn't allow me to retrieve it on his property. He found it and tagged it. Thing is.....he was trespassing on the property where I shot the buck when I shot the buck. At least I didn't break any laws. Still stinks!!
William, that really does stink. I hate it when people put antlers ahead of ethics and honor. Hopefully you get a chance at another one that big sometime soon.
Not a bad idea to give em a little blat, just so they don't take that step.
Good point, but I think the deer took that step as Carsen was squeezing the trigger and he didn't expect it. Have a great day and a great Thanksgiving.
What video on your channel are you talking about ot showing your sons first archery kill? I believe it was like 25lbs of draw weight if I remember correctly..
I wish that video was still available online. It was in 2009 and all the videos from that era on the Midwest Whitetail website were compressed to .flv which requires Flash Player to view. That player is no longer supported so those videos are lost for all time unless those guys re-encode the videos to a different format. I have the raw footage so I could reconstruct it and maybe I will do that some day and post it on my new page (here). It was 24 pounds if I remember right. He was shooting a Phantom 2 blade head and hit the small buck a bit hit but the angle was downward and the buck never made it off the food plot! Pretty cool memory.
IMHO the property owner not allowing Carsen to follow up on his buck is Bull$hit. The excuse of other hunters in the area doesn't fly, no reason not to allow Carsen to follow up in the dark if the true reason was "other hunters". I'm sure the "other hunters" would want Carsen to follow up on a mortally hit deer.......Why waste the animal in that situation?
Agreed. The only issue was the fact that the blood trail had stopped short of the neighbors line. I am sure he questioned whether Carsen had even made a fatal hit.
If the blood trail was visible where the deer had crossed on to private, he could have pursued without a weapon and without landowner permission, correct?
Correct, but it wasn't visible. That is an Iowa law.
I love the videos! Do you ever worry about the exhaust fumes from the quad on your clothing? I try to stay scent free as possible and still have deer bust me.
No, I try to stay away from the exhaust, but to be honest, with two guys and all the camera gear and packs we are far from being scent free anyway. When I am hunting by myself I can do more things to be pretty much scentfree, but it is impossible to control all the clothing and gear another person brings to the tree. Unfortunately.
How did he get a picture with the deer if they would not let him go after it?
he 3D printed it dude!
13:12 is your answer
I put a note in there. The landowner found it and called him. Not the perfect ending but better than nothing.
@@bill-winke sorry, I missed it. Knew of a situation where the landowner went and found the deer but kept it for himself because it was a nice buck
@@takurghar1621 That would really stink. Not as likely to happen here as it takes an awfully big deer to get that reaction here. Where I lived in southern Iowa, by the time we moved the hunting had gotten so good all over that area that it would take a solid 190 buck to even get people to stop and look at it.
Man! Gut shot
I can't believe how low the deer density is on that farm. Ideal habitat, abundance of food, no firearm season through the rut, and Iowa! Does it get hammered during shotgun seasons?
Nope. It has been pastureland for decades. Little by little the deer will make it home.
To the young man that made the back shot, dont worry it happens. But you may want to try follow up shot. I have trained myself to knock another arrow while i watch post shot.
He did take another shot but it didn't make fatal impact so I chose not to show it. It is always a good idea to take the follow-up shot whenever possible. That is why I have a 60 yard pin on my bow. I will never take a 60 yard shot except in the case of a follow-up. Thanks for the comment.
Buck still bumping does in ne pa though not as hard as a week ago.
Thanks for the update and good luck this coming week.
did they let carson keep the buck or did they take it????
He got to keep it. The landowner actually called him and said he had found it.
That's good! I shot one of my target bucks saturday night. Rattled him in, good shot, great blood trail. could not find him, went back next morning and he was piled up right next to last blood. @@bill-winke
Dont get down ethan itll happen keep grinding buddy
Thanks Don. We appreciate the comment and the encouraging words. Ethan is still after him, but starting to get a bit burned out by this deer - not surprisingly. I once hunted a buck for 55 straight days and never even saw him. I didn't enjoy that season and vowed I would never do that again - and I haven't. Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy thanksgiving to u all too , yeah we can make it hard on ourselves and no fun if we arent careful
No more day six arrows? Found thst fmj arrows don’t stay true
I don't know what it means to "not stay true". Does that mean to take on a bend? I have shot FMJ on and off since they came out and they have proven to be very good arrows. I just wanted to try other arrows. I shot the Easton tapered arrows (T85 I think they are called) earlier in the season with the RX7 and am shooting the FMJ with the RX8 just for the fun of it. All have been good arrows. I have shot deer with just about every arrow on the market over the years. Good luck.
Bill, what are your thoughts around when your target buck breaks a bunch off? My #1 target I’ve been chasing all year broke about 10” off. I shot one of our other target bucks already during bow season. It’s a funny thing feeling like if the deer I’ve been hunting all year gave me a shot I wouldn’t take it now. Another wrinkle, the deer is most likely 4 and will most likely have another big growth year ahead if he survives.
If you think he has the opportunity to survive the rest of season leave him.
I’ve hunted mature buck two years that has a small block of woods wetland he lives in and no hunter’s cameras stand or feeders etc. and I think that’s why he lives here no pressure n privately property on river / wetland and I’ve missed him last year and this year and i don’t know if he really knows he’s been shot at or hunted really since there’s a lot of traffic from road noise and loud turkeys that frequent the area but I’m free him out to mock scrape with doe estrus code blue and missed grazed brisket and now idk how to draw him out ! What’s your advice would you scatter corn out to bring him in or will that push him away since there’s feeders and stands and corn piles everywhere around him on adjacent farms properties ?
That is good question. I assume he will want food so offering food in a way that doesn't involve human scent may be the best bet during the rest of this season. Good luck.
Bill im interested in the code of silence apparel, what’s been your practical experience. I wouldn’t hunting until mid to end of October to mid November with bow. Early season not a real good choice, northern lower Michigan can get pretty cold and quite possibly snow!
Their Verdigre and Zone 7 work well in the middle of the season and their heaviest stuff (Coldfjall) works well late season. These garments are not windproof, but they are super quiet and super comfortable. If it is really windy, you need a shell to keep the wind from blowing your heat away - but that is the case with any quiet Berber style outerwear. Bibs are key to staying warm late season. Full leg zips so you can carry and easily put it on at the tree. I really like the stuff. It blends well too. Here is the link to their site: codeofsilence.com/ Good luck.
thank you
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What if you're hunting big rugged country and you can't find any acorns and theirs no agriculture close by what should I focus on? It's big hardwoods with thick over grown fields.
Daniel, I am not sure. You need to find a local biologist and ask them what kinds of local browse the deer prefer. That situation sounds really tough - without any concentrated food sources. I believe in that situation I would be hunting travel funnels and hoping for the best. Good luck.
That's exactly how I set up for the opener of gun season here in Pennsylvania. I feel like I'm in the perfect spot to catch a buck traveling through. I love hunting benches and white oaks if the acorns are producing.
Land owner could have granted you access to retrieve your deer.
But, keep in mind that Carsen had lost the blood trail short of that landowner's line and there was no actual proof that the buck even went in there. It was more Carson's hunch since he didn't find it anywhere else.
Hey Bill, what is your thoughts on hunting with or around cattle? Do they wreck too much cover? Im looking at getting cattle, looks like you got rid of them! Your marketing is working, I now want a Hoyt setorri!
I hear you on that Hoyt recurve. Cody loves that bow! Now I want one too! Who wouldn't if they shot a giant with three drop tines with it! I grew up hunting around cattle, but that was because there were cattle in nearly every woods back then. I do think that cows and deer don't really mix that well. The cattle eat just about anything edible in the timber and that isn't necessarily good for the deer. Also, deer don't like to occupy the same localized areas with the cattle herd - so when the cows move into an area, the deer there move out until the cows leave. As mentioned, they will live in the same farms together, but the whole time I am sure the deer are wishing the cows weren't there! Good luck.
I live in mountains and I personally have watched cows go over 20 acres to run deer out of there pasture area. So I can say from my experiences cows and deer do not go together.
Bill, what part of iowa is your farm. Don’t need anything specific. Northern or southern. just curious for seasonal references compared to ours around east central mo.
Northern Iowa.
@@bill-winke Thanks. Really enjoy the daily videos and weekend forecasts. Enjoy the rest of your season and good luck to you, Ethan and the rest of the interns.
@@CrownedGamer. Thanks. Much appreciated.
Dream Big brother 🙏
Thanks Edward. You too.
Could he not called game and fish and they retrieve it?
Not without a blood trail leading into the neighbor's farm. In Iowa, you can't just go randomly searching someone's farm because you think your deer ran there. You need proof that it is hit and in there in order for the law to be on your side.
How's Ethan's land search going?
He is still waiting for the right deal. Land prices are dropping here so patience is the best strategy. They may slowly drop for a while.
@@bill-winke I see, didn't know if he had found anything or not yet. I got faith he find the right fit soon.
@@gokartpusher08 He is getting impatient. Plus, he still lives with parents and is thinking of buying a house first!
What release are you using, Bill?
That is a B3 Hawk with a two finger trigger post on it. Here is the link. You will need to call them directly if you want to try the longer trigger. b3archery.com/product-category/releases/
Thanks Bill for the info!
You get 2 tags in your state?
Yes, as a landowner I also get a landowner tag that I can designate for bowhunting.
@@bill-winke be careful, your gonna end up with a new neighbor. Lol
Carson never bent at the waist when he drew. Might have effected his shot placement
First!
Thanks Kurt.
All good. I just believe a second shot would have been more important than swinging the camera around ! I think filming is great but we owe a quick clean kill to the animals we hunt.
He did make a second shot but I chose not to show it. Hit him in the back. The first arrow should have been enough, either way, but the follow up is also a good idea. That is why I have a 60 yard pin on my bow. I don't plan to take 60 yard shots, but as a follow-up shot I sure would.
works for me glad to hear this
@@bill-winke
So Carson made it to sound as if he never found the buck, but I’m curious how he has the buck in the picture at 13:45 if he never found it.
I put a note in there. The landowner found it and called him. Not the perfect ending but better than nothing.
@@bill-winke I am guessing the "perfect" ending would have been Carson FINDING IT. Yet, I thought it was a PERFECT ENDING in that he did get his deer.
@@lonniechartrand Yes, I think he was pretty bummed that he had wasn't able to find it right after shooting it.
You don't need permission from a land owner in Iowa to go after your deer.
You do if you can't prove you are on an active trail. For example, you can't just show up and start walking around someone's farm without a very defendable reason. If you lose the blood trail somewhere and you think the deer may be on the neighbor's land, I don't believe that gives you the legal right to walk that farm. In that case, I would call the game warden to find out what you should do. I bet he says, "You need permission." Happy Thanksgiving.
Brush up on game law.
We know the laws just fine.
Oh man that sux, that’s BS imho, I understand not wanting you to goin there, but I’ll bet you asked those hunters that had permission to go in after hours they would have been fine with it. Seems like wanton waste on that landowner. I know it’s the law but still bull crap!
It does really suck. Most guys will let you go look and if they are hunters themselves they will often go with to make sure you don't "stray" too far off course into their sensitive areas.
Hunting is not all about shooting big bucks. Too much emphasis on this.
@LizardKing513 Shoot whatever deer you want. Is someone pressuring you to only shoot big bucks?
We don't focus on that. We try to focus on strategy and setting realistic goals.
to well experienced hunters it is, we want the biggest deer on the property. i know i do anyway. i wont settle for less.
Just watched him shoot a doe a few episodes back. In the heat of the rut yet! Everyone’s goals are different and all respect for Bill and his methods .
Nope what sucks young man is you had a open chipshot at less than 20 yards and you totally gut shot that buck for really no reason other than you did it your finger on the trigger . Trespass laws are there to keep people from just marching in and ruining someone else's hunt or just not being where they are not supposed to be. Ways to avoid this is to practice don't make bad shots keep gear up and do not hunt close to property boundaries you know will be problematic at best . The owner did what was best for his hunters and even retrieved your deer for you .End of story .One day you may own hunting land yourself and understand this .Maybe not .Just some critical words for you to ruminate on that you will find true.