Can Women LEAD In Church? (Women Preachers & Leadership Roles) - State of Black Church 2003
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State Of The Black Church - 2003
Can women preach? Should they be allowed to preach? Has the church isolated women from holding prominent leadership roles? Interesting dialogue between the sisters on this panel: Rev. Marcia Dyson (Wife of Michael Eric Dyson), Dr. Carolyn Ann Knight, as well as Carlton Pearson, Freddy Haynes, & Cornell West. Though this is 18 years ago, I see so many of these same questions and issues being prevalent today. What do you all think?? Let's dialogue RESPECTFULLY in the comments! - Hudba
The problem is never been whether women can preach, the problem has been to whom.
The scripture is clear on universal authority in the spirit. The problem the subject brings up is that if women are called to be apostles and bishops and pastors over men, then God contradicts his word, and that opens up the door for other people to come in and use that to tear down the scriptures.
If the woman does not use authority over the man, this is where we need to focus. That means if men are part of congregations, and if the position requires the woman to use, serve authority over a man, then that position is not for a woman.
Amen 🙏
“The don’t have access to the symbol of power that is the pulpit”. God did not tell us the have that level of authority in the church. Not because he is sexist or that women are not important but because he established an order that we don’t have to understand but obey. Yes we have permission speak to and teach women and children. God placed in Adam in authority and Eve under his authority. When she stepped out of her position, the fall came. We can share Christ but under the headship as God set it up and in the manners that God allow us. It saddens my heart when many women feel like their voices don’t matter unless in a pulpit. We have been given the one of the most admirable assignment ever: teaching the children who will BECOME the pastors, leaders, teachers, etc in our homes and communities. We are blessed to prophecy, pray and set the tone of our homes and societies. We have to be careful not to get so caught up in challenging the positions that men hold that we neglect the ones that we are blessed to hold. If men submit to God, they will live and teach soundly. The women will hear and live soundly. The women will then teach the children soundly. The children will grow and live soundly. Everyone would be in order and covered.
Amen 🙏🏾🙏🏾
This is the best comment I have ever heard regarding this topic!!!
I feel you my sister I know this has been two years ago but I really want to compliment you in other words you're just saying that if we learn to play our roles right and stay in our lanes until God calls us into something else and obey his word everything will be okay this is what I'm receiving from your message which is true God ordained certain things in the Bible to be his way not our way and not the way that we want it I was raised by women and men in my family and everybody knew their role and how to operate in it I think we missed a whole point sometimes I feel that it is all about people not being heard just like you said when they are being heard we both have to be submissive to God and we will both be held accountable to God for our actions this is what people tend to miss about the word of God we will be all held accountable for our actions and we have to be careful what we choose to battle and what we pick and choose for the better of our families and our friends because Satan is always working to turn us against each other
@@ericholly9054
Maybe God didn’t call her…
However we must Not forget the role the almighty have..
He does whatever he wants at any given time, his name is above ALL ( Jesus)
We also must Understand that God is Spirit & his ways are not our ways.
All
I can say if God called & choose do.. you will be held accountable Not your Spouse, if he doesn’t, you shouldn’t make it up..
@@ChosenOne-rj6im no matter Jesus is King the Lord never goes against His word think about it he chose Men to leadership genesis we are born in his image men not woman leading man
You can say what you want and do what you want. The question is do you want to do it GOD's way?
I listened to this and heard a lot of We, Women, my interpretation. My this and my that But not much of GOD... stop separating the scriptures to pleased the flesh. Thank GOD he will be the judge and nobody can say WE or I.
Amen
You tight perfectly.this is about gender and not God anymore..you are a good listener..
You noticed that Mrs Dyson never mentioned any scriptures and when she's mentioned the scriptures she talks about the Samaritan woman and she totally misunderstood that event and associates that to woman preacher and she uses Lazarus resurrection as an event of women preachers which read her own interpretation without the real context. "Older women teach young women commandment in the scriptures have been neglected by the church so by so doing we don't have pious and gospel believing women any longer The same goes with young men who are not being disciples by men. You either submit to the scriptures or submit to your own pride.
I totally agree. These women stayed in their boundaries of discipleship not leader over a body of a church. She misinterpreted and contradict the topic.
Where's Gino Jennings????
The question is easily answered. Go to the bible the word of God and see what it says about women being leaders in the church.
And this is the dysfunctional piece that truly needs to be addressed.
Why don’t we allow the text to speak for itself? I haven’t always agreed with everything I came across in the scriptures, but I just can’t wish it away or behave as if I don’t know where people might be gathering such conclusions from. Nonetheless, I’m convinced that my Heavenly Father knows best, so I’m going to continue to trust his wisdom over mine’s.
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you..
God can do what he wants when he wants.
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
@@pastorterryk.anderson6239 pastor I’m not saying this isn’t true, but what I am saying I’m sowing seeds at this present time somewhere else because I have seen this saying so many times.
Yeah you right
Except lie or contradict himself. Maybe he can change his mind or our understanding broadens on what his Word says.
@@investigativeresearchspeci6152 That is the letter of the law that kills. If you live in it you will die in it. But what you mean is the Word of God. This is like the big "Rhema" (right above logos and rhema which is alpha and omega) but the Voice. (kole in Hbr) Our understanding cannot be leaned to even after the illumination. (I Cor.4:6.)
The rule stands, (para) lean not to your own understanding but trust in the Lord. But the one who brings the Understanding is called Prudence. The Sons are commanded to call her next of kin (to Wisdom) We are to call Wisdomn sister. (aw-mar chakmah awkhoth kiy kara tawboon moda - Prov. 7:4) But why? Why if we have understanding from the Lord don't lean to it?
BC revelation knowledge is 3fold being of the Patyr' "Precepts upon Precepts". For instance, it is written, my ppl perish from lack of knowledge. And "..where there is no vision the ppl perish". The revelation comes from the knowledge that reveals the Will of God by vision of what you hear.
This is as Seer not as Prophet or son. I got no knowledge of God when I was just a Prophet. The way the knowledge comes to those in the secret place (is 3fold) who are in the Book of Remembrance (Mal.3:16-18.)
Can be seen as Precept upon Precept (revelations Knowlege) Line upon Line (revealed knowledge) A Littel here (revelation) the latter is the vision. You will never have it unless you repent of your sins like you promised the Lord but never did! (Isa.28:9-13)
Sister Dyson, the question is about women being in leadership in the church, not ministering/ preaching. Of course anyone can preach, teach the gospel because that's every believers assignment and responsibility. However, man (male) has been designated by the Word of God to be the leader (person of responsibility) in the church. (1 Timothy 3:2-7 ; Titus 1:6-9). Also in the home the husband is the headship; Ephesians 5: 22-23. Harriet Tubman descriptions are worthless and baseless on leadership in the church. "If we want to use the Bible", what else are we going to use!!??😮
I wonder why they never have Gino Jennings up there cause he was sent all of them straight from the Bible
Gino wouldn’t set nobody straight.. you can NOT stop the Will of God… if your called or chosen its non gender specific..
One day these wives will have to answer to God why didn’t they do his will, not the interpretation of Man.. Preaching is not only in the pulpit.. it’s daily
@@ChosenOne-rj6im That's where you're wrong. You are also a supporter of a women preacher. Jesus never had a woman to preach. All she did was to go out to witness to people about Jesus.
The question is can you find the Baptist Church in the Bible ? No we are following the slave master church. Blind leading the Blind. Follow the church Christ build.wake up.
Churches in themselves have become family dynasties and a lot of the original ways of doing things has been done away with because of wanting to keep things in the family. Let’s talk about that,
I see no one responded!! Hahaha!!! Good job!!!
@terrypi4758, I agree with the statement you made. I will go even further and say that because most if not the majority of the churches no longer do it the original way as laid out in The Scriptures is why there are so many "churches" and not just The Church! I knew a man that had very little regard for GOD The FATHER or HIS Son JESUS CHRIST and lived and spoke as such yet told me on many occasions that his future retirement plan was to inherit a Congregation/Church that was established by a Family member of his who told him that he would eventually take over and become its Pastor was baffling to me but by that time in my life I had already seen that in my experiences from the churches that I had visited that church was a business of the flesh and not a place that People gathered to seek to know, learn, and worship The GOD of The Bible. As far a a Woman standing as a Pastor/Bishop/Elder/Overseer of a Congregation of People to include men goes against all Scripture. I do however believe that all People/Women that are drawn to GOD by HIS Spirit for Salvation in HIS Son JESUS CHRIST have been called to be a witness for JESUS CHRIST! The Scriptures clearly points out the path of each individual and the roll they are to walk in. First we must know that Salvation is for all mankind, the sons and daughters of Noah/Adam. As far as the roll played by the Priesthood of All Believers it goes like this according to The Scriptures. The Literal Seed of Abraham as the Priesthood. Men: Husband of one wife to be a Bishop or Elder to oversee a group or Congregation of People. The men who are not the seed of Abraham but come from the seed of Ham or Japheth aka the Stranger who join themselves to Israel have that same "One Law" that they follow that was given to Abraham's Seed. The women: teach the children and younger women. Anything outside of The Scriptures is just a way that seems right but are actually not but the ways of death.
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Just say you don't believe in certain stances in the scriptures, don't sugar coat it... there is an order. She didn't preach, she gave a great testimony... there is a different. Church feminism at its best
So True... So... True
not to mention she cant really testify because she dont have testicles real talk
That's right, she didn't Preach she went and told the people about Christ who told her everything about herself, she testified to the people about what he told her and that he must be the messiah the one who was prophecies to come, they heard her, but wanted to go see for the self, testified and Preach is different
While I do love Bro. West, the whole "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality" line is an easy cop - out. He never said anything about it because the WORD homosexuality wasn't invited at that time. HOWEVER, the ACT WAS and in that the ACT was ALWAYS mentioned in a pejorative manner, when mentioned in the Bible. We gotta stop getting church/biblical answers from people who we don't even know if they go to church.
So Jesus the Christ and Savior did mention and did speak against same gender love clearly as Paul did? I’ve been wanting to further explore this very touchy topic.
Man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his wife.
Know your Bible. 1 Corinthians 6:9) there are many more. Stop making things up in your head. Casting down every vain imagination that exalteth itself against the Word of God. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
She actually said that the story of Lazarus wasn’t about him (Jesus)”raising a man from the dead.” Rather about encouraging & lifting up women?…..feelings & emotions are dangerous.
Exactly brother!!!! I said the same thing!!! SMH...
reverend? Psalm 111:9! Brother James Duncan. I'm sure you, carrying such a title, have already figured it out that the spirit of Jezebel runs very deep amongst our women especially in these latter days just as it has throughout our People's history. Sadly most of us think a woman labeled as a Jezebel is speaking of a whore of the flesh when actually it is a woman who is a spiritual whore that wants to stand up front as a leader in spiritual matters. The number of so called churches led by Women is only going to increase due to the lack of knowledge in the men of our community.
@@stephenvalentinesr.1754 it has, and shall continue to increase; due to a lack of submission, and obedience to the word of God.
But I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man, but be in silence. 1 Timothy 2:12
They don't want to hear that a lot of times that verse fall on deaf ears because they refuse to listen I always go to that verse they get mad and say God can do anything true but God don't contradict the word he placed on his disciples
It’s as simple as that. Why can’t people accept the scriptures for what they say?
Amen. Some women wants control at their likness and not of God. God is not ok with it. He states that women must submit. Come on ladies let us minister in our lane
God doesn't contradict His word, Mrs Carolyn ! Also , you have a masculine authority manner about you ! There's nothing submissive about you !
“I said that’s what I want to do”. The question is was that God wanted you to do? Part of the problem is so many people are pastoring churches now just on their own volition when avid did not choose for them to.
Truth spoken by Rev. Shaw : 1st problem the church faced after Jesus ascension was "Who does the church belong to?" When Satan can't derail the life of the church, he will attempt to divert (take control of it) and then he renders it ineffective.
We see that today. Too much arguing over who should and should not preach.
The power of the Holy Spirit will address the issues of sex, gender, and race so that we can address the doctrine of our faith in Jesus Christ.
I believe that we also have a Bible to address the issues of sex, gender, and race (I Timothy 2:12).
@@JTBizzleexactly, the word
Count how many times you hear scripture cited.
Exactly
It is amazing that the focus, by its title, of this edit focuses on women's leadership, and each time a gentleman speaks the conversation skirts the issue and the avoidance or dismissivenessis demonstrative of the filibuster mentality that many adopt to not simply speak directly to the issue of women in leadership.
The lady said, when she heard preaching as a child that’s what SHE wanted to do! When God calls he doesn’t send you to Seminary schools training to preach the word. 😂
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you..
Preacher Dyson. Don't forget about the Queen of the South that The Almighty is going to to call forth on the Day of Judgement to condemn and pass judgement on the leaders of major world dominated men's religious ministries because of their unbelief in the Messiah Yahushua, The prince of peace who spiritually loved bold courageous woman. Blessed love sister. Shalom.
@Dennis Allen if you are referring to the book of revelation you misunderstood the symbolism of the phrase. Please please take the time to understand the OT and NT scriptures. Please never read your race into the holy scriptures of God. The Lord is not going to usher you into heaven because you're black and oppressed or because you're black, white, yellow or green. "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Romans 1:16 ESV" (Greek = Gentiles)
So, do the Queen of the South just decide, oh I'm going to go, or TMH commands her/it? Y'all are sooo confused that it ain't even funny... It's called, ORDER!!!! And TMH Demands it!!!!!
God can use who he wants, when he wants and how he wants to.
Right and he use men to take the lead
That's the whole point! TMH chooses! Man don't choose himself!! Just like the rock didn't choose to speak on it's on! And after it spoke, it didn't become a Rabbi, Bishop, or Pastor!!!
False. God will not violate His own law.
Just as He can decide who does what and who doesn’t do what? He can use the women to as role models for the young ones and in many other ways that has nothing with them exercising spiritual authority over men.
Yes
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
The living lion and legend rev shaw...
You better tell that truth. 😊❤
Percentage doesnt matter, its what the word says, can woman be in ministry absolutely. Can they be the lead pastor No, that goes against scrpiture and thats all that matters.
You said it right. Women should not take " lead" in women's ministry sure, etc but under the umbrella of men as head of church that is bible
"Let your women keep silence in all the CHURCHES." This restriction is only for the Church meetings preaching sermons. She can sing, prophesy, pray, give testimony, etc. Church leadership is solely given to holy men. A woman cannot serve holy communion, officiate weddings, funerals, etc. Paul says "Let YOUR women," meaning the married women in the churches. She is not permitted to go over her head, who is her husband; that is out of order. The woman at the well did not preach in the church, but she went home and testified about her experience with Jesus, which was and is perfectly fine then and today.
Just tell me what the Bible said on the question.
Wow what she said
This was done years ago and it was rampant last few years ago...
They don’t like Paul’s letters 😂
I went to church for years and sat under a man preacher and was never saved, but it was a woman who led me to salvation in Jesus Christ, and I knew I had received him in my heart, and that woman was my sister, so it doesn’t matter if it is a woman or man preacher to me , as long as they come with the truth of Jesus Christ and salvation through the Blood 🤔🤔🤔
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Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you..
@MTS 3 baby , you don’t know what your even talking about, I know what happened to me , and how it happened ,my heart was never hard , i just didn’t know the truth,and I’m not blaming anyone, what are you talking about,you seem like one of those people who just want to argue about something,and women can preach and teach and spread the word of God , they are anointed and blessed of God 🙏🏾
@MTS 3 baby , no , we don’t need to go back and forth about God or his Word, I know for a fact that that is not of God , I have been filled with the Holy Spirit and He will lead me and guide me to all truth. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@MTS 3 baby , do you know all truth, or are you still learning truth ?
You’re a Protestant, you can do anything you want and find a biblical narrative to justify it. Do your thing.
If a woman can preach find the chapter and verse where it shows the office that gives her the right to preach if a woman can baptize find a verse where a woman baptized if she can ordain find a woman that ordained in the bible if not stick to what the bible says and how in the world can God be over man man over woman and woman over kids but in the pulpit the man drops below the woman??
Great question, What does the Bible says on the matter ??? I don't care what any man or woman has to say about it, The Bible has made it clear.
The way of us as CHRISTIANS is that 1st... WE OBEY GOD'S WORD...(written, and rhema)... We also need to understand what GOD is saying in HIS WORD... AND OBEY IT...
Now... question, does telling a person about the LOVE of JESUS and HIS GOSPEL, leading a person to salvation, mean that you are exercising authority "OVER" that person?
The Pauline Epistle, means that the (BOISTEROUS, UNRULY)women should not usurp order in the congregation, and not usurp authority of GOD ORDERED AUTHORITY IN THE CONGREGATION...
YES... MEN AND WOMEN ARE USED TO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL OF RECONCILIATION AND SALVATION...
BUT THERE IS AN ORDER IN A HEALTHY CHURCH...
JUST LIKE A HOUSEHOLD WITHOUT A FATHER & MOTHER IS CALLED A BROKEN HOME...
THERE ARE THINGS THAT GOD HAS GIVEN TO BOTH FATHER AND MOTHER THAT THAT FAMILY NEEDS, BUT THE "HEAD" IS THE FATHER...
SO IT IS WITH THE CHURCH...
GOD HAS GIVEN BOTH OF US,
MEN & WOMEN, NEEDED GIFTS AND RESOURCES OF PREACHING, TEACHING, ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER THINGS.... BUT THE HEAD IS GOD, THE "PASTORAL" LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH "FAMILY" IS MAN, BUT THIS DOESNT DIMINISH THE NEED AND APPROPRIATE POSITION OF WOMEN
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Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
Can someone give me scripture where GOD says a woman cannot be your spiritual leader.
1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man, but be in silence":
Its there in black and white, in the word of God
Smart folks like this are the reason the church is in the position its in today. Most of them think they're smarter than the book.
The only one speaking from a Biblical stand point is William Shaw. Everyone else is speaking about they're interpretation of how the Book makes them feel.
I’m glad the woman in the brown coat got back to the subject at hand. We talking about women’s issues in the church, you turn it over to two men and now the subject is patriotism 🤨. It annoys me how in all these types of videos (mostly with old men), they never seem to actually answer or address the question/topic at hand. They just flip the topic and say something to make the crowd feel good. Which works GREAT with church folks. You can tell they’re educated cause they do it so eloquently and smooth you don’t realize what’s happening 😂
Divisive
Remember Saul sacrifice the animal, then Samuel came and ask him what he had done. In the long run he lost his life and was replaced by David. Now women are baptizing men. ( women liberation on the move capsizing the spiritual things).
God has a order, he established how things should go in his kingdom. Just like the first Adam man continue to do what he wants in spite of. Church and family still out of order
The Almighty does what He choose to do. For me its ok for me to not have the privilege to speak or teach in a church pulpit. I don't mind sharing The Word of the Almighty in the store, in my neighbor's home, at the doctor's office, with a stranger on the train or where ever the spirit leads. I live in a small tiny rural farming community upstate n.y. among the old order Amish. For the 21 years me and my husband have been living here The Almighty has opened a wide door for me to speak, teach and preach to and with them which is something that they don't allow but tet they will sit down and patiently listen which is something that as far as I know has never been allowed in the Old order Amish Religious history. Amen.
May TMH bless you sister. You ARE the hope that I needed today! Who ever taught you, please give them the biggest thank you possible. As a single man, when I look at "Us", as a people, I am afraid of what I see. You, as in black women who think and believe like you, are severely outnumbered! Who can find a virtuous woman?? Cause I been looking for a while!!!! And I ain't asking you personally, just saying!!!
You can teach God’s word and witness to people. What scripture forbids is doing so in the body of Christ or in a local church where by doing so, you exercise spiritual authority of men.
I sure wish I had those kinda sisters right now cause as a minister, all I have are the men and there wives who don’t see me but only see the women think it’s all about the men they marry!
Jesus stood with the marginalised.
Cornell West is off if he thinks that the Bible doesn't address homosexuality 🤦♂️
She is telling the truth that is so true their woman was teaching preaching and in the mother at home when she teaching and educating that child train up a child that it was not straight away it starts at home and then you want to say a woman is not allowed to do this or do that when God are you going to tell God you don't have no right to do that know you going to shut up and sit down and let God do what he wants to do he put that one there to teach the preach we ain't here to take over no man job we here to do what God want us to do and that is spread his word teachers were administered his word get out there and do the work that he had called
1 Corinthians 14:33-35
[33]For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
[34]Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
[35]And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1 Timothy 2:9-14
[9]In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
[10]But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
[11]Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
[12]But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[13]For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
[14]And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
I'm glad watch that Gino Jennings he be telling the truth and he don't burn your pockets
My Brother That's The Truth & That's What They Don't Want To Hear,,((REVELATION 18:4 & HOSEA 4:6))...
This light skinned lady been hurt and she still is that’s why she has to be heard
Amen, if men don't read the Holy scriptures and follow it these FEMINIST preachers this world is finished. Throw the bible away.
no she dont. She is part of the problem and has no solution. She is paying the price for her promiscuity. Virtue women don't deal with such trifles bc the favor of the Lord is with them for making right decisions when it comes to her sexuality
Stay in the word of God women can’t preach in the Church that in the word of God!!!
Where
Oh now we putting limits on god? On who he can use or not or it’s illegal for women to preach or pastor etc it’s all legalism bull crap man made traditions. Women can’t be in the pulpit get out of here with that.
Did you all hear what Carlton Pearson said and was intimating? This aged well, didn’t it?
There is a time and place to use our authority it's called positioning
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
It's called, ORDER! After the rock cried out, did we call the rock Rabbi, or Bishop, or Pastor, no.!!! These women are all over the place, trying to justify themselves! They see "others" with women pastors, and say, if they can, we can. But, I say, you should never do something, just because you can!! You can climb over the fence at the zoo, but should you? You can go buy a gun, go to Walmart and squeeze until the clip empty, but should you? They could and did come to Africa, take us and bring us here to be slaves, but should've they??? You see, doing things because you can, don't always mean that you should. Black women are so confused, they done forgot who their enemy is!! It AIN'T now, or ever been Blackmen!!! Blackmen ain't never held you back from nothing! They just said, the church is 70% women. I KNOW it's more than that!!! So how the hell are men holding you back??? You are the church! Ridiculous!!! But it is the nature of a woman! Emotion rule their decision making. A man should know better!!! How many examples the Bible got to give you??
Ms1001k you should read this and tell me what your think. as a servant of the Lord and of the Father they want me to tell you where you have failed as females. He says the world has won you over from the beginning through depravity. You are being deprived of the purpose in which you were created for. The first man did it to the first woman in the form of negligence. A woman (after 30) is wired to orgasm every 5 minutes. (The rhythm is 1-3-5-5-3-1)
She took independent thought with the serpent who was in league with satan. Had Adam thrown her down on the ground (softly) and dive on top, the Patyr' would have left. If when the Patyr' returned at the 3rd hour (9am as He does today in the secret place) the next day Adam should've taken his wife with him and the patyr' to finish the work. Instead, he left her with the serpent whom he used to be alone with. This is now negligence in hindsight.
When a husband fails to satisfy his wife it will generate that enmity in her. The older a woman gets the more consistent sexual activity she needs from the same man. (marriage secures this!) By 30 she needs one hour, by 40 she needs 2 hours, by 50 she needs 3 hours, 3 weeks out of every month.
This knowledge is given through the woman to the man which creates the emotional bond she is looking for. You don't know it until you reach it. But you always know when that is not it! You didn't tell them whatever you do don't be a lesbian or associate with one bc they carry additional curses. They are completely outside of the Lord's Will.
This knowledge is what mothers have failed to give their daughters bc their mothers didn't have it. Fornication kills it. In that, men still have not learned how to love you. Your primary place and reason for being on death is to bring your husband pleasure. The man you choose to love you is who you give that pleasure to. I'm telling you there is such a thing as total sexual satisfaction.
Its when you have full control of your orgasm system and can at will climax, orgasm, multiple orgasm, the stream that last 5-15 minutes of orgasms and finally the cycles that given you control of your libido. That is when "oh my gawd" sounds like a whisper.
(spoiler: the elephant in the room is the fact that mostly all husbands release too soon when his wife is just beginning to get started to cum but with knowledge it is all of our libidos and he refused to give her affection and attention until next time. But this is just btw us shhhh)
It is all bc He had to curse you through your first mother with the cursed name "Eve". Adam called her this after they sinned but was not her given to be name neither one of them inherited their first names. Relative to her name it means 'the mother of all living'. She passes her curse on to her seed and provides the body.
This became part of the "displacement" women are 'suffering' with to this day. And the rebellion has flourished to feminism. This is the behavior of the first woman by taking independent action which is feminism.
But Abba Patyr' (Heavenly Father) wants you to know that to Him your so-called "feminism" is your cry for total sexual satisfaction that the curse has put out of your reach. See, the curse is (double) enmity and sorrow which amounts to doubt and unbelief. This is where double favor is given that begins with virginity.
(note: this becomes the main area where mothers fail daughters and leave them to satan i.e. the older women teach the younger women to love..not hate with enmity. Men and women are hating each other for the same reason they should be loving each other. The woman is designed for sex, it is the spice of life)
So it was already established that every woman has a chance at double favor. (men too) It cannot be taken away as long as her virginity is intact upon marriage. The double favor comes in when she accepts Christ. "Favor" is in the Blood Covenant of Christ. The rule is if you have sex with more than two ppl you were not married to then you forfeit favor in your relationship.
He who finds a wife finds a good thing (not a hoe or hoeMaker) and obtains the favor of the Lord. The exception to the 2 sex partners is, if you accept Christ and remain celibate until marriage ten you will have the favor of the Lord. But double favor means you have the favor of the Lord and of the Patyr'. The solution to the problem is in the problem Says The Lord
To break it down, women become promiscuous which shuts down he libido to lead her to this place of ecstasy during copulation. This was the only life the man and his wife had in the garden prior to sinning. They just had not come together before they sinned. And I see where it is the first thing satan does with newborn babes in the Lord.
Satan sends someone to take their celibacy, not knowing they are giving up their favor when the do bc Ministers are doing the same thing, not repenting of their sins like they promised the Lord. You did that too huh?
We are lost
If we would simply lift the scripture rather than the philosophical, genderism, and equity/Inclusion conversation of the world, the church, Christ's church wouldn't be so confused!
The title is deceptive and only Carlton Pearson hinted at something about a woman in a leadership role. The other men were “ just talking”. What happened to the preachers that taught that Jesus didn’t choose a woman out of the 12 disciples to lead the church. What happened to the preachers that shares with woman to teach the younger woman and that they have a major role in the body of Christ but that role is not to lead the church and just because a woman says all she has ever wanted to do was be a preacher of the Bible doesnt support that than God didn’t say it. So who does the women want to please there desire or God. How you gonna say I’m called to preach Gods word and lead the church but the Bible doesn’t say that?
We did not have a leg to stand on, and that’s how they got over on use. We could not take care of ourselves because they took everything.
Jesus didn't deal homosexuality much because mainly had a jews audience and it was not prevalent in is audience but Paul had to do with the gentiles who were more indulging in that kinda lifestyle so he had to address the issue
But Jesus did. Let a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife.
Review Leviticus
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you..
More people who read the Bible and read into it. What they wanted to say, not what it says.
🛑We need to START FROM THE BEGINNING.....
🔥Genesis 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth..........
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God is beyond gender.
Whatever helps u sleep at night, but he wants men to pastor his church.
The woman at the well did not go back to her country and preach all she did was went back and gave her testimony about what Jesus had done for her.
Yes God calls woman into pastors bishop elders because Paul said if a woman prophesy let her cover her head in christ there is neither male or female
God said you where a help mate 😮
God will allow anyone to carry His Word, however they cannot usurp the authority over a man. Additionally there is no such office as a Reverend.
Agreed , but Reverend isn't an office it's a mere title
Brother, you all have to know the Word.GOD tells you who HIS Word is given to.
I wish that Gino Jennings would have been there. 😂😂😂😂
I see there are no one representing the Church of Christ on any of these panels
Wow i can't believe i just watched a panel of divisive wolves discount the scriptures and replace it with their ideologies...
Yes they did people will believe a lie and be damn according to the bible. Yes GOD uses men and women rightly dividing the word of GOD. People are going to do what they want until GOD comes back. We need Preachers, teachers men and women in the body of christ rightly dividing the Word. I keep hearing We We We dont need interesting, but what about GOD
Yes we are living in the last days where people will believe a lie and be damn. If the blind lead the blind Both shall fall into the ditch
All I’m going to say is that Y’all better read the book 📖, it’s not due to interpretation.
It's not what we believe it's what the Bible says.
She said Paul said men should rule over women, Paul got that revelation from the Lord. God said it in the book of Genesis! Every since the fall, the spirit of rebellion has been operating heavily in the world as well as in the church! The rebellion against the commands, statutes and Word Of God! God told Adam that he hearkened to his wife, meaning he listened to her rather than God! And who did the woman get deceived by? The serpent, this is the beginning of why women can not be Pastors and or preachers of God's Word! When the woman get to the word that says a woman is not permitted to teach or usurp authority. The only thing she can do with that scripture is add to it/take away from it, or just skip over it and never teach it. But I say nobody can get by the Word of God. And that's what most rebellious people can't stand. I read somewhere in the bible about a rebellious woman who calleth herself a prophetess, one who taught the servants of God to commit fornication and eat things sacrificed unto idols! They call her JEZEBEL! Tell these women to rightly divide this, (Numbers 27:15-19!) It said a MAN, talking about Joshua but pointing to Jesus!
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Misogyny at it's finest (comment section and on this stage) No hurt like Christian Love. 😒
Sharing Jesus’ with others is NOT preaching. Why is that so hard for women to understand?
A Palestinian Jew? What is that?
She preaches for 30 years, it feels like 300 years, as wise St Paul knew it would. Pipe down.
Some people claim to read in the Bible and expressing what it says. And then some people just want to be activist. And theny're using the bible the pulpit for that purpose
We need ( Gino Jennings) on this topic
The first speaker had no bible to stand on only her feelings as do all female preachers pastors etc
Genesis 18:23-26 Jesus had already spoken no need for more clues brother west, wake up brother!
The savior did drop a clue
The Lord's word says, "Women are to be silent in the church." If you don't like it, take it up with HIM. It is certainly ok for women to preach, but NOT to be the head of a church.
This is EXACTLY like 90% of things that us blacks try and operate...a mess 🤦🏾♂️
Slaves in the Bible is not the same as slaves from West Africa. Free, but that slave was not treated like the people that was removed from Africa. Let’s be real people. And I’m not talking about the slaves from pharaoh.
Y'all better stop letting these women tell y'all what GOD said, misinterpreting the Word.
I know what the Bible says on the subject.
Fredrick Haynes you benefited from the flag you speak against
Think of (Jesus or________) like MLK and years go by and the word gets out about his works.....Now how did my ppl get this far away.....
Is a women and her purpose to be a helpmate/ helpmeet? Women often evangelize to their children they raise and to other women. I love the essence of a women but the need to be just as a man is not sensible. I love a women in part because she is not like men and is soft not hard etc.
NO!
She did not preach she testify of the goodness of Jesus that’s not preaching
"If JESUS showed up in another gender," you all need to stop!GOD tells the order of the church through HIS Apostles, but because y'all love to see women up, you all will allow it.
In the name of Jesus Christ the woman was deceived
Deborah and Miriam both held positions of leadership over God’s people. While Miriam was subject to Aaron and Moses, neither of them stopped the calling of God over her life to speak what He told her. Deborah was The Judge over Israël and under her reign Israel was peaceful for 40yrs because she was a righteous representative of God that practiced and executed his word over Men and Women. And even in her position she was still a wife and probably submitted to her husband in keeping with God’s law. At some point we all have to forgive women for eves mistake because as we saw in the garden, both of them sinned.
Yes but Deborah and Miriam never led leadership in the church
It was because woman sinned that man sinned, which led to both of them consequently sinning. If you look at it, Adam defended his wife Eve's wrongdoing. This is not to blame shift or downplay any gender. I'm just keeping it in perspective. Fast forward to I Timothy chapter 2 where it says woman is not to usurp authority over a man or to teach. Adam was not deceived but the woman was in transgression. Specific instructions on how to handle order in the church.
But it was when Adam ate the world was cursed
What were the positions?
Black women wrote themselves into the Bible by the way they wanted to do this, not by what the Bible said. "Rightful place"? How dare you?
Tho their be gods many and lords many. Which god got you up speaking. All scriptures is given by the one true God. That scriptures tell women their position.
Read the Bible and you will know the truth of God words
No......Gods order.
You cannot match the flag with the Cross. The Flag didn’t have nothing to do with the Apothehead doing what they did to us.At that time we had no voice that’s why we lost Everything.
Believe,l Saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy.But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith,as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of your family.Ask for their account details and help them call the M D in charge of the orphanage to get their details on(WhatsApp or call them now on+video call+2349029305379) tell him I sent you.for it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6) . you shall testify to the Glory of God in your life.God bless you...
number one hariet tubman never started the underground railroad she was a tool used by the quakers to take healthy slaves to the north for a more civilized captivity, secondly the woman at the well the seamarians didnt believer her so they went and look for the themselves and they talked down to her and said we dont believe because you told us its because we seen him ourselves its amazing how many people dont know the holy scriptures