Hey guys, thanks for watching the video I just want to point out two things 1. I realised after making this video that I completely mispronounced Frank Herbert’s name throughout the entire video and I’m really embarrassed about it😭 (I’ll start practicing names before recording from now on) 2. Like I said at the end of the video I’m new to making video essays so if you have any criticisms or things that I can improve please let me know. I’ll try my best to take it on board Once again thank you for watching and have a good day❤
I was reading your quote from Herbert, and I think in that quote he says jungian psychology, not union. Jung was a Swiss psychologist who coined the idea of the shadow, which is like the dark side of your personality that is the darker impulses. Could be wrong tho
He become a dragonnnnnnn. In Buddhism when someone die from making misunderstanding mistake or arrogance he is reincarnated into an animal. Also chack out Robert sapolsky if ur interested in this
Damn, by the time the Dune section was over I had forgotten this wasn’t even a standalone analysis on Paul Atreides. As a fan of all three series whose consumed a ton of content about all three, this is one of my favorite analyses on each series that I’ve ever seen. Beyond your script, your editing is really good too. I really just wanted to share my appreciation, definitely subbed for more in future.
@@UncleHuss1 Eren saw the future and became a worm monster to save his people from the rest of humanity. Leto saw the future and became a worm monster to save humanity from itself.
@@diegocastillo2022 but he did save them, Mikasa and his friends lived full lives and Paradis Island was free of peace and prospered for literally thousands of years after Eren's death until it was eventually destroyed in another war
And just like Leto II, Brian Herbert led the universe/franchise into a state of boundless mediocrity and grey uniformity. Only Leto did it intentionally.
When you think about it, everything Eren stands for falls apart the moment "the twist" happens. I was on board with everything the story was presenting to me until it turns out that he is responsible for his own awfull life, thus his motivation and reason to want the rumbling are self imposed. Also, logistically that whole time travel bullshit dose not make any sence what so ever.
@@tutumazibuko2510 Trust me, I know what the story is trying to say, how ever I don't agree with how the story is trying to say it. There where definitely better ways to tell this story without Eren manipulating everything from the start, such as not having said time travel mumbo jumbo that clutters things up.
@@lordquaz7154 Then it's not for you my friend, you said you didn't like the way they presented it that's the point you're not supposed to like it. The time travel thing is very understandable and there are a lot of videos explaining it and doesn't really need a YT vid to explain it.
The point about seeing the future being to our detriment is so profound, especially when I consider how easy it is to want to sabotage yourself when your entire life's been mapped out for you and you've only been moving in step to it, even when it's in your benefit.
Star Wars, AoT, and Dune (and Elder Scrolls, LOL) have all been a huge part of my fantasy-mind for a while now, and this video is great man. (Also, I like how even though Anakin could only see snippets of the future, the one time he was granted decades worth of time to shift through (On Mortis), it was daunting; *"You will not understand what I have to do to end the Clone War... and you will try to stop me"*
You know something else I’ve thought about. Paul saw into the future to hear Jamis’ words, “life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience”. Well Paul has already experienced said realities through his foresight. So does that mean that Paul isn’t truly living then, just merely existing. Pretty sad when you think abt it
BRO, YOUR EDITING EXPONENTIALLY IMPROVES EACH VIDEO. It's clean, it's snappy. It has that bounce and rhythm that complements your personality and writing style.
Finally another guy who understands Eren. Eren was a slave to freedom, but the freedom he wanted meaning he was a slave to his own expectations. I don’t see why that’s so hard to understand. He’s said it so many times he wanted to do the rumbling. It doesn’t mean he can’t also feel remorse for the innocent people he kills. He’s a monster but he’s not evil. He doesn’t revel in the killing of innocents.
You’re right but also wrong for why you’re saying it. Nobody is confused about that. The problem was never that Eren was shown different at the end. It was how it was portrayed. It literally didn’t make sense at all
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw parallels between Eren and Paul. The latter even experiencing a personality change due to seeing the future like Eren did
Fantastic video man. I also drew the surface level parallels between Eren and Paul like most people did but I never quite realized how much they foiled each-other in how they engage with the future. Eren’s torment came from the fact that the horrific future he saw was a direct reflection of what he wanted deep down. Everything from protecting his friends, to recreating his childish expectation of the world being a blank canvas. On the flip side, Paul is left with a lack of any genuine agency over his own life because of the situations he’s thrust into and the roles he’s forced to play. Paul’s power robs him of his humanity while Eren’s power allows him to act on the worst parts of his.
"he had lost a friend and gained a worshipper" I've been thinking about that line ever since I read it over a year ago I'm glad to see someone else bring it up. I feel like a lot of people focus on the grand consequences that Paul had on the galaxy without thinking of all the people he made individually worse by convincing them to become his unquestioning soldiers and servants.
@@TM__H3 the slave to the idea of freedom stuff is just bullshit. If a slave escapes the pre-civil war USA South and flees to Canada, are they a "slave to the idea of freedom"?. And everyone dies eventually, doesn't make anyone not free. And both examples suffer from the same problem, using some abstract out there definition of "freedom" that's not only metaphysical but never mattered to Eren or the story.
"So, sorry if the script isn't as good as it could've been". My brother, this is the best video I've seen this year so far, and it radically changed the way I see all the media that was talked about here. If this isn't your best, then you just might become my favorite creator, and I'm glad I found your channel.
I've been getting more recommendations for analysis videos lately, and honestly, this was one of the good ones. I didn't even know this guy was new, his video was so well thought out! I actually haven't seen any of these franchises (I didn't watch the prequel trilogy when I was younger, so I'm catching up) and yet I still got every point. What I really liked about running into this video is that I'm planning out a story idea with a protagonist who's a prophet and didn't know much about heros who see the future. Really put things into perspective for me and now I have a clearer picture of it. The nuance and thematic potential for these kinds of stories is pretty cool, so it should be fun to flesh mine out! Good job Huss! Keep it up!
Its kinda insane that this morning i was thinking about these 3 specific fallen characters and then you made the exact video about them. And its so fascinating and hilarious at the same time.
Cursing myself for not seeing the future a few years back, it makes me not wonder why people would like to see the future. It could prevent a lot of pain. The only hope you have, to combat this self damnation of wishfull thinking ist a sense of fatalism/determinism I think the tragic hero rings in us, cus seldom have people especially young ones bad Intentionen. And its a close ringing warning that these types of characters tell.
Hope this doesn't get lost but wanted to share my perspective of Eren. The tragedy of eren is that while he could make his own choices, he couldn't go back and change what led him to ultimately make the choice to start the rumbling. The future is deterministically bc no matter what eren can't undo the cause and effect dynamics that forged him from a stubborn and angry child into a violent and selfish man. It was always going to happen because eren jaeger, the worst person possible to be given any kind of power was given all the power in the world. And despite his sense of morality and false heroism he couldn't become anything other than what he already grew to be, the devil of all earth. A man who only knew violence, who could only concieve of violence. He could fantasize about some future with Mikasa but it never would have happened because it was just an attempt to escape himself. Even if he did go with Mikasa to the countryside he would still be the man who *chose* to do the rumbling.
Would like to add Handsome Jack to this discussion of characters seeing the future. Handsome Jack’s downfall didn’t necessarily start when he saw the future, (his downfall was already happening throughout the story of Pre-Sequel with everyone betraying him) but it was seeing into the future and seeing his death which completely put events into motion. Jack is a tragic character and although in the end he becomes unhinged his intentions were good, he wanted the betterment of Pandora by ridding it of the bandits that plagued the planet, it’s just that to stop his death and make sure his plan would succeed he’d need to kill the Vault Hunters by any means necessary. Innocent lives end up getting brought into it but in Jack’s eyes the end justifies the means, because he truly sees himself as the “hero”, and everyone else as the villain. And he’s actually right, in the Borderlands series no one is truly good, Vault Hunters are glorified grave robbers and are murders themselves (and even cannibals *cough* Salvador *cough* ), Jack was the only one who truly wanted Pandora to be better. In the words of Handsome Jack himself “he’s the goddamn hero”.
Keep it up man i love watching this kind of content and this video is getting saved as a referance for myself, looking forward to your next and hope to see your chanel grow
Hey man I just watched your video it was really good don't be hard on yourself the last one what's another banger and I'm so happy you made these three character analysis
Part of why I love AoT is the world while making it clear Eren is in the wrong, great an great job in explaining and showing us why Eren and his supporters could get into that mindset. As his first meeting with Mikasa happens after her parents were killed and they were both confronted with how evil exists even within the halls, then we see regularly fighting to protect Armin, though he rarely won without Mikasa there. His struggles through those first 3 seasons highlight to him that he's not special-yes, but that the only way to save anyone IS to fight, to destroy their enemies whether they be Titan or human, within the walls like the King that refused to defend his people, or beyond the waters towards a world that thanks to actions outside his and any other person on Paradis control, hates them. When he travels, he learns that his people were both being victimised and villianfied by Marley, whose actions keep the sins of the dead alive in the collective conscious, even when he was listening to Willy's speech, the man left out key details on WHY Paradis was now a threat. I'm of the mindset that if Willy had not done that, and rather then call for war, called for peace, Eren would have backed down. Heck, we know that part of him wanted peace as in alternative timelines, such as the one where Mikasa asnwers his question differently, he leaves and doesn't start the rumbling or a violent takeover of his own government. But that wasn't the main timeline, and because of that, he can ONLY see the bad in humanity, he can only see violence as the option because for the longest time, that was the only option as you can't reason with a Titan, they couldn't reason with the true royal, they couldn't reason with Marley either. But he forget that he could reason with the people, they they could forge new bonds and put down the swords. Like you said, he become a slave to this future-but it was a future that was created by the present him.
Except that there was no other choice to end the Titan curse beside doing the rumbling. Eren only mistake was not doing 100%. This backfired Paradis in the future.
Exactly, sometimes i loose hope, when i see people justifying Eren choices. All the dude had to do was following Armin's plan. Use the Titan powers to buy Eldia enough time to develop a strong military and catch up in technologically. Then try the diplomatic approach.
@@edouard9867 You assume it would have worked tho. There were three unknowns with the pacifist route. 1) Whether Eldia could ever catch up to an equal position with Marley and the outside. Just because they had rare resources didn't mean they had the ability to use it. 2) Whether Marley would wait. Which, they obviously were not doing even before Eren declared war. They NEEDED to declare war on Eldia and nothing would stop that. Willy and Magath both agreed on this 3) Whether people would even care. Becuz lets be real, they wouldn't. Paradise might have persuaded some of the captives (only like 10% btw) but how would they convince the whole world. Chances are Humanity would have just attacked them the moment the heard the "spawn of the Devil" was growing stronger Eren told Armin that the Rumbling was the only way forward and that his visions failed to show an alternative that didn't result in Eldia's destruction
@@lain5858I think you misunderstand Erans character, cause while he is complex, he is no hero. He has a sick obsession with freedom, which is partly what drives him towards the rumbling. You see, AOTs world is deterministic, which means that the future includes him seeing the future. There is no future where he does not see it. He does not kill the world because he has too, but because what he experiences, combined with his character, only has one result which is the rumbling. He can't make other choices, cause the world has already concluded what choices he makes in that circumstance. This is quite different from Paul, who only sees possible futures. Dune does not have a deterministic world. Therefore, Paul's ability to see the future, gives him the power to choose the future, and to get the golden road, he has to become something he cannot accept (but his son can). Both are very interesting, but completely different, and has different effects on the characters
@@arthurnielsen4066 Its not a "sick obssesion for freedom" He IS literally opressed for being Eldian and living caged just to die by a pure Titan sent by Marley. His people are literally put in concentration camps around the world and used as biological weapons. Eren though his problems was only Titans taking his freedom then he discovered the entire World wants to take his freedom way. So his search for freedom is 100% justified because he is opressed. Its like saying for a concentration camp victim "ho you want to leave this Camp? Such.... obssesion for freedom..." That's the problem with AOT. The story is simple...Very simple but fans want to make It more "deep" than actually is
Love the video. Visuals were unique, from paintings to movie clips I remember a book Name of the Wind where protagonist re-tells his story as an adult; His path was laid by a creature that could see the future and chose to share information that put him on most destruction. So unlike Anakin who was told a prophecy, Yeagar who foresaw his path & accepted it, Atreides who chose best path(like Detroit become Human), Kvoth had no choice. Creature already knew what he would accept so he tailored his conversation aptly & there was no escape whatsoever.
Always liked the idea of fictional characters seeing into the future and like all fiction and mythology it based on real world truth. If you ever find yourself sitting and thinking about these characters and how cool it would be to be able to see the future just remember that you can! Sort of… with the right amount of planning and determination almost anything can be brought to existence. Just remember all these cool characters are based off of you not the other way around. You may feel inspired by some of them and their stories but they were inspired off of you or us actually. Create the vision and focus on the now. Now is eternal for as we can perceive anything outside of it. With lots of practice keep making yourself aware and present of the now and align it with your vision. You don’t need to be confident that you’ll succeed in the future you just have to do your best now to make it happen
In watching this video, the LAST thing on my mind was a lack of script quality. I think you did a fantastic job in conveying your ideas and points, expecially considering my lack of familiarity with both Dune and AoT. I can't begin to describe how pleasantly surprised I am to have found such a fascinating topic discussed so engagingly from a random video on my recommended page. Well done across the board, and here's hoping your essays for college are as good as this one.
Another excellent video, Huss. A little update from me even if no one asked, but, I'm doing a lot better these days, and I want to view this video as a hallmark of that. Excellent editing, analysis and narration. Thank you for making this video.
Love to hear it man, really glad that things are looking up for you. A little update from me but I’m also feeling a lot better today even though exams are destroying me😭💚
@@UncleHuss1 ah yeah I completely relate man. Also in my final semester and my finals are all coming up within the next 2 weeks. Excited to see what’s next after all of this. I know you’ll do well, you have the grit.
Denis Villeneuve went into Dune with the intention of getting as far as Messiah. I don't know if he'd be interested in adapting Children of Dune. God Emperor would have to be dramatically changed to make it adaptable, and even then it probably wouldn't even be worth it. God Emperor, in theory, is one of the most interesting Dune books. In practice, though, it's downright oppressive to read. It isn't as bad as Heretics, but I had to take several humongous breaks when reading it.
Its not your seeing the future that dooms you, its your will being excircised against what you see that defines you. I.e. the more you fear to lose control the less youll ultimately have, and worse, become what you fear. Its only through accepting that things will come as they do, and letting go of all fear that ine can really be free. Enjoy the moment, and strive to be a good man without letting wilfulness get in the way.
Love the analysis! Great video about three characters I love. I’ve always found it interesting how certain characters are handled when they have such powerful knowledge of what’s to come. Don’t think it’s talked about nearly enough! 26:11 Unless my ears are tricking me you may need to see to that battery…
Paul is kinda unorthordox that he see a potential future, or half of it. Hes just, under the pressure of the context, decide to materialize the other half of it
I wouldn't use it for myself, id use it for others, guiding them to be better, not out right telling them but giving them the wisdom and more importantly the choice, more importantly i wouldn't let anyone know that i had the future sight. Im human im not perfect and i will most likely get something wrong in this journey, but id try all the same. For it is better to try and fail, than to have never tried in the first place
based on this video i think would really enjoy how foresight and precognition is portrayed in the Warhammer 40k setting, specifically with the characters of The emperor of mankind and his sons sagnuinius & konrad curze
We have algorithms that predict the behavior of humans. Telling the future gets easier and easier. It’s why we have these books and stories. Because there are living humans who can predict the future.
Hey guys, thanks for watching the video
I just want to point out two things
1. I realised after making this video that I completely mispronounced Frank Herbert’s name throughout the entire video and I’m really embarrassed about it😭
(I’ll start practicing names before recording from now on)
2. Like I said at the end of the video I’m new to making video essays so if you have any criticisms or things that I can improve please let me know. I’ll try my best to take it on board
Once again thank you for watching and have a good day❤
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Sorry, not sorry.
What was the music used?
@@thelonesamurai9425it was from Attack on Titan mostly and Made in Abyss at the end.
I was reading your quote from Herbert, and I think in that quote he says jungian psychology, not union. Jung was a Swiss psychologist who coined the idea of the shadow, which is like the dark side of your personality that is the darker impulses. Could be wrong tho
He become a dragonnnnnnn.
In Buddhism when someone die from making misunderstanding mistake or arrogance he is reincarnated into an animal. Also chack out Robert sapolsky if ur interested in this
Damn, by the time the Dune section was over I had forgotten this wasn’t even a standalone analysis on Paul Atreides. As a fan of all three series whose consumed a ton of content about all three, this is one of my favorite analyses on each series that I’ve ever seen. Beyond your script, your editing is really good too. I really just wanted to share my appreciation, definitely subbed for more in future.
Thank you man, this comment means a lot to me. I was really worried that I didn’t do Paul justice😭
Can I say this is so true
Facts.
Star Wars, AoT, and now DUNE
same istg
Eren is like a combination of Paul and his son, Leto II.
I can definitely agree with this
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Eren saw the future and became a worm monster to save his people from the rest of humanity.
Leto saw the future and became a worm monster to save humanity from itself.
But eren didn’t save his people they were later carpet bombed
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but he did save them, Mikasa and his friends lived full lives and Paradis Island was free of peace and prospered for literally thousands of years after Eren's death until it was eventually destroyed in another war
@@PicaShingcanon?
Virgin Chosen One vs Chad Dark Messiah
Such a based Chads
Both can be the same.
I can't see the term "dark messiah" without thinking of Kicking Simulator
@@johans3164how are eren and anakin virgins? They have children the last time I checked
@@fortrohan-brawlstars2745 Eren has a kid? lol, you meant Paul and Anakin?
Frank Herbert’s self insert as Paul is removing himself from the narrative and having his son take over.
And just like Leto II, Brian Herbert led the universe/franchise into a state of boundless mediocrity and grey uniformity. Only Leto did it intentionally.
@@bilbobagend8155 Bro, you didn't have to cook him that hard....
eren never stops fascinating me
Genuinely one of the most interesting fictional character in all of existence
When you think about it, everything Eren stands for falls apart the moment "the twist" happens. I was on board with everything the story was presenting to me until it turns out that he is responsible for his own awfull life, thus his motivation and reason to want the rumbling are self imposed.
Also, logistically that whole time travel bullshit dose not make any sence what so ever.
@@lordquaz7154 nice job missing the point then
@@tutumazibuko2510 Trust me, I know what the story is trying to say, how ever I don't agree with how the story is trying to say it. There where definitely better ways to tell this story without Eren manipulating everything from the start, such as not having said time travel mumbo jumbo that clutters things up.
@@lordquaz7154 Then it's not for you my friend, you said you didn't like the way they presented it that's the point you're not supposed to like it. The time travel thing is very understandable and there are a lot of videos explaining it and doesn't really need a YT vid to explain it.
The point about seeing the future being to our detriment is so profound, especially when I consider how easy it is to want to sabotage yourself when your entire life's been mapped out for you and you've only been moving in step to it, even when it's in your benefit.
It is the choking off of one's own free will
Star Wars, AoT, and Dune (and Elder Scrolls, LOL) have all been a huge part of my fantasy-mind for a while now, and this video is great man.
(Also, I like how even though Anakin could only see snippets of the future, the one time he was granted decades worth of time to shift through (On Mortis), it was daunting;
*"You will not understand what I have to do to end the Clone War... and you will try to stop me"*
You know something else I’ve thought about. Paul saw into the future to hear Jamis’ words, “life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience”. Well Paul has already experienced said realities through his foresight. So does that mean that Paul isn’t truly living then, just merely existing. Pretty sad when you think abt it
BRO, YOUR EDITING EXPONENTIALLY IMPROVES EACH VIDEO.
It's clean, it's snappy. It has that bounce and rhythm that complements your personality and writing style.
Was literally thinking this 😭😭
We’re waiting for you to cook now
Finally another guy who understands Eren. Eren was a slave to freedom, but the freedom he wanted meaning he was a slave to his own expectations. I don’t see why that’s so hard to understand. He’s said it so many times he wanted to do the rumbling. It doesn’t mean he can’t also feel remorse for the innocent people he kills. He’s a monster but he’s not evil. He doesn’t revel in the killing of innocents.
exactly
Dude it's free will
What? Re-read and write that again. Never understand how people can be an expert about comics and cartoons. Yet can't write. Next!
You’re right but also wrong for why you’re saying it. Nobody is confused about that. The problem was never that Eren was shown different at the end. It was how it was portrayed. It literally didn’t make sense at all
@@demontiming3234 trust, I’ve watched countless videos on here where people are very much confused by that
Some things are better left unsaid. Some secrets are better off not knowing.
genuinely love the way you put this
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw parallels between Eren and Paul. The latter even experiencing a personality change due to seeing the future like Eren did
But did he actually see the future or did he provoke said future?
I Hear that smoke alarm.
Either I'm crazy or your battery needs changing.
Either way nice videos.
I have bad hearing so maybe I simply never noticed it😭
Does he know?
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Fantastic video man. I also drew the surface level parallels between Eren and Paul like most people did but I never quite realized how much they foiled each-other in how they engage with the future.
Eren’s torment came from the fact that the horrific future he saw was a direct reflection of what he wanted deep down. Everything from protecting his friends, to recreating his childish expectation of the world being a blank canvas.
On the flip side, Paul is left with a lack of any genuine agency over his own life because of the situations he’s thrust into and the roles he’s forced to play. Paul’s power robs him of his humanity while Eren’s power allows him to act on the worst parts of his.
The thumbnail is basically the almighty and iconic true of "Dark Chosen Ones"
Summarised my thoughs on Eren perfectly 👌
"he had lost a friend and gained a worshipper"
I've been thinking about that line ever since I read it over a year ago I'm glad to see someone else bring it up. I feel like a lot of people focus on the grand consequences that Paul had on the galaxy without thinking of all the people he made individually worse by convincing them to become his unquestioning soldiers and servants.
Anyways, finally someone that recognizes that Eren is Free.
No he isn’t
In the end he was a slave to the idea of a freedom
And also he was a slave to the fact that he is going to die in all possible scenarios
@@TM__H3 the slave to the idea of freedom stuff is just bullshit. If a slave escapes the pre-civil war USA South and flees to Canada, are they a "slave to the idea of freedom"?.
And everyone dies eventually, doesn't make anyone not free.
And both examples suffer from the same problem, using some abstract out there definition of "freedom" that's not only metaphysical but never mattered to Eren or the story.
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vnfreedom never mattered to eren and the story ?
@@AM17titanwait you can't be serious?! In pretty much every key moment Eren talks about Freedom. 😂
"So, sorry if the script isn't as good as it could've been". My brother, this is the best video I've seen this year so far, and it radically changed the way I see all the media that was talked about here. If this isn't your best, then you just might become my favorite creator, and I'm glad I found your channel.
I've been getting more recommendations for analysis videos lately, and honestly, this was one of the good ones. I didn't even know this guy was new, his video was so well thought out! I actually haven't seen any of these franchises (I didn't watch the prequel trilogy when I was younger, so I'm catching up) and yet I still got every point.
What I really liked about running into this video is that I'm planning out a story idea with a protagonist who's a prophet and didn't know much about heros who see the future. Really put things into perspective for me and now I have a clearer picture of it. The nuance and thematic potential for these kinds of stories is pretty cool, so it should be fun to flesh mine out!
Good job Huss! Keep it up!
If you see it doesn't mean you can stop it. I know the sun will rise from the east tomorrow doesn't mean I can do anything about it.
Its kinda insane that this morning i was thinking about these 3 specific fallen characters and then you made the exact video about them. And its so fascinating and hilarious at the same time.
I love ur smoke alarm beeping in the background
i never realized how good of an example anakin is for this
Cursing myself for not seeing the future a few years back, it makes me not wonder why people would like to see the future. It could prevent a lot of pain. The only hope you have, to combat this self damnation of wishfull thinking ist a sense of fatalism/determinism
I think the tragic hero rings in us, cus seldom have people especially young ones bad Intentionen. And its a close ringing warning that these types of characters tell.
HOLY CARP THIS WAS GREAT!
Im subscribing man I'm so glad you were in my feed today
This video rocks. You've got a great narrative voice and I dig the structure of the essay
Loved the video! Your analysis of these characters was really interesting!
Hope this doesn't get lost but wanted to share my perspective of Eren. The tragedy of eren is that while he could make his own choices, he couldn't go back and change what led him to ultimately make the choice to start the rumbling. The future is deterministically bc no matter what eren can't undo the cause and effect dynamics that forged him from a stubborn and angry child into a violent and selfish man. It was always going to happen because eren jaeger, the worst person possible to be given any kind of power was given all the power in the world. And despite his sense of morality and false heroism he couldn't become anything other than what he already grew to be, the devil of all earth. A man who only knew violence, who could only concieve of violence. He could fantasize about some future with Mikasa but it never would have happened because it was just an attempt to escape himself. Even if he did go with Mikasa to the countryside he would still be the man who *chose* to do the rumbling.
I the master oggway sumed this topic up perfectly in kung fu panda 1 " one often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it"
Maybe if oggway was there instead of Anakin things would’ve been different 😅
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beautifullll video brother, great job
“Goes from a good guy to a genocidal maniac”
I get the sense this might supposed to be a bad thing…
Would like to add Handsome Jack to this discussion of characters seeing the future. Handsome Jack’s downfall didn’t necessarily start when he saw the future, (his downfall was already happening throughout the story of Pre-Sequel with everyone betraying him) but it was seeing into the future and seeing his death which completely put events into motion.
Jack is a tragic character and although in the end he becomes unhinged his intentions were good, he wanted the betterment of Pandora by ridding it of the bandits that plagued the planet, it’s just that to stop his death and make sure his plan would succeed he’d need to kill the Vault Hunters by any means necessary. Innocent lives end up getting brought into it but in Jack’s eyes the end justifies the means, because he truly sees himself as the “hero”, and everyone else as the villain. And he’s actually right, in the Borderlands series no one is truly good, Vault Hunters are glorified grave robbers and are murders themselves (and even cannibals *cough* Salvador *cough* ), Jack was the only one who truly wanted Pandora to be better. In the words of Handsome Jack himself “he’s the goddamn hero”.
Thanks for making this video. I really enjoyed it. The tragic hero, or anti hero is probably my favorite character to read about and write.
the editing went crazy this video!!!! (that Barney is still terrifying) loved the aot section best :3
2:28 The famed ceiling bird chirping
Keep it up man i love watching this kind of content and this video is getting saved as a referance for myself, looking forward to your next and hope to see your chanel grow
This was genuinely a great video, keep up the good work
Change your smoke detector batteries
This was a really great vid bro, good luck at Uni 😊
Hey man I just watched your video it was really good don't be hard on yourself the last one what's another banger and I'm so happy you made these three character analysis
Part of why I love AoT is the world while making it clear Eren is in the wrong, great an great job in explaining and showing us why Eren and his supporters could get into that mindset. As his first meeting with Mikasa happens after her parents were killed and they were both confronted with how evil exists even within the halls, then we see regularly fighting to protect Armin, though he rarely won without Mikasa there.
His struggles through those first 3 seasons highlight to him that he's not special-yes, but that the only way to save anyone IS to fight, to destroy their enemies whether they be Titan or human, within the walls like the King that refused to defend his people, or beyond the waters towards a world that thanks to actions outside his and any other person on Paradis control, hates them.
When he travels, he learns that his people were both being victimised and villianfied by Marley, whose actions keep the sins of the dead alive in the collective conscious, even when he was listening to Willy's speech, the man left out key details on WHY Paradis was now a threat. I'm of the mindset that if Willy had not done that, and rather then call for war, called for peace, Eren would have backed down. Heck, we know that part of him wanted peace as in alternative timelines, such as the one where Mikasa asnwers his question differently, he leaves and doesn't start the rumbling or a violent takeover of his own government.
But that wasn't the main timeline, and because of that, he can ONLY see the bad in humanity, he can only see violence as the option because for the longest time, that was the only option as you can't reason with a Titan, they couldn't reason with the true royal, they couldn't reason with Marley either. But he forget that he could reason with the people, they they could forge new bonds and put down the swords. Like you said, he become a slave to this future-but it was a future that was created by the present him.
Love the way you connect the plots
Honestly really liked this video. It’s gotten my creative juices flowing.
I am so glad you mentioned Macbeth! The true OG!
Dude you need more subscribers man 4k absolutely doesn't do the quality of this video justice
You have a beautiful way of telling a story . Great analysis ❤❤
Thank you so much!
If Eren was just a rational/logical thinker, bro would've saved everyone without having to stomp on 80% of the world
Except that there was no other choice to end the Titan curse beside doing the rumbling.
Eren only mistake was not doing 100%. This backfired Paradis in the future.
Exactly, sometimes i loose hope, when i see people justifying Eren choices.
All the dude had to do was following Armin's plan.
Use the Titan powers to buy Eldia enough time to develop a strong military and catch up in technologically.
Then try the diplomatic approach.
@@edouard9867 You assume it would have worked tho. There were three unknowns with the pacifist route.
1) Whether Eldia could ever catch up to an equal position with Marley and the outside. Just because they had rare resources didn't mean they had the ability to use it.
2) Whether Marley would wait. Which, they obviously were not doing even before Eren declared war. They NEEDED to declare war on Eldia and nothing would stop that. Willy and Magath both agreed on this
3) Whether people would even care. Becuz lets be real, they wouldn't. Paradise might have persuaded some of the captives (only like 10% btw) but how would they convince the whole world. Chances are Humanity would have just attacked them the moment the heard the "spawn of the Devil" was growing stronger
Eren told Armin that the Rumbling was the only way forward and that his visions failed to show an alternative that didn't result in Eldia's destruction
@@lain5858I think you misunderstand Erans character, cause while he is complex, he is no hero.
He has a sick obsession with freedom, which is partly what drives him towards the rumbling.
You see, AOTs world is deterministic, which means that the future includes him seeing the future. There is no future where he does not see it. He does not kill the world because he has too, but because what he experiences, combined with his character, only has one result which is the rumbling. He can't make other choices, cause the world has already concluded what choices he makes in that circumstance.
This is quite different from Paul, who only sees possible futures. Dune does not have a deterministic world. Therefore, Paul's ability to see the future, gives him the power to choose the future, and to get the golden road, he has to become something he cannot accept (but his son can).
Both are very interesting, but completely different, and has different effects on the characters
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Its not a "sick obssesion for freedom"
He IS literally opressed for being Eldian and living caged just to die by a pure Titan sent by Marley.
His people are literally put in concentration camps around the world and used as biological weapons.
Eren though his problems was only Titans taking his freedom then he discovered the entire World wants to take his freedom way.
So his search for freedom is 100% justified because he is opressed.
Its like saying for a concentration camp victim "ho you want to leave this Camp? Such.... obssesion for freedom..."
That's the problem with AOT. The story is simple...Very simple but fans want to make It more "deep" than actually is
damn I always thought being able to see the future was a fire superpower but now it’s more of a curse than anything
This is peak entertainment. I also love that you are using Kevin Penkins Made in Abyss OST😎.
I thought you did a great job. 1st video of yours I've seen and watched it from beginning to end. Keep it up and give yourself more credit 👍👍
thanks man, genuinely appreciate this comment
Such a great analysis
Bro the video is fire, trust 🔥
I get so happy when i find New channels that are so good. Love from Brasil bro
Thanks man means the world💚
Bro your editing is crazy. Why do you only have 5k subs?💀
Awesome video man
Don't be so hard on yourself bro. You did great! Keep it up.
Love the video. Visuals were unique, from paintings to movie clips
I remember a book Name of the Wind where protagonist re-tells his story as an adult; His path was laid by a creature that could see the future and chose to share information that put him on most destruction. So unlike Anakin who was told a prophecy, Yeagar who foresaw his path & accepted it, Atreides who chose best path(like Detroit become Human), Kvoth had no choice. Creature already knew what he would accept so he tailored his conversation aptly & there was no escape whatsoever.
a video about my fav type of characters LETS GOOOO
Wow, halfway through I realized this video has only 13K views, that is actually a crime. This is some really great work man, keep it up!
My man I appreciate it and will do!
Bro. These drawings are enchanting.
Always liked the idea of fictional characters seeing into the future and like all fiction and mythology it based on real world truth. If you ever find yourself sitting and thinking about these characters and how cool it would be to be able to see the future just remember that you can! Sort of… with the right amount of planning and determination almost anything can be brought to existence. Just remember all these cool characters are based off of you not the other way around. You may feel inspired by some of them and their stories but they were inspired off of you or us actually. Create the vision and focus on the now. Now is eternal for as we can perceive anything outside of it. With lots of practice keep making yourself aware and present of the now and align it with your vision. You don’t need to be confident that you’ll succeed in the future you just have to do your best now to make it happen
In watching this video, the LAST thing on my mind was a lack of script quality. I think you did a fantastic job in conveying your ideas and points, expecially considering my lack of familiarity with both Dune and AoT. I can't begin to describe how pleasantly surprised I am to have found such a fascinating topic discussed so engagingly from a random video on my recommended page. Well done across the board, and here's hoping your essays for college are as good as this one.
thanks man I really appreciate this comment
Another excellent video, Huss. A little update from me even if no one asked, but, I'm doing a lot better these days, and I want to view this video as a hallmark of that. Excellent editing, analysis and narration. Thank you for making this video.
Love to hear it man, really glad that things are looking up for you. A little update from me but I’m also feeling a lot better today even though exams are destroying me😭💚
@@UncleHuss1 ah yeah I completely relate man. Also in my final semester and my finals are all coming up within the next 2 weeks. Excited to see what’s next after all of this. I know you’ll do well, you have the grit.
Woah great video dude I was surprised to see you only at
Appreciate it bro😂
This video essay was great and so was the script
Good video keep up the good content
Made in Abyss music in the background that’s a W
lovely video
great video dude
Glad you enjoyed it
Keep going with these quality and you'll eventually become one of the big name anitube channels
Wow, thanks
Dude this was such a fucking cool video
Don’t stop making these man
You started with the made in abyss ost and I became engaged.
Leto II is a character we’ll probably never see adapted but I think he’s the best
We might see him as a child depending on how messiah gets adapted
Denis Villeneuve went into Dune with the intention of getting as far as Messiah. I don't know if he'd be interested in adapting Children of Dune.
God Emperor would have to be dramatically changed to make it adaptable, and even then it probably wouldn't even be worth it. God Emperor, in theory, is one of the most interesting Dune books. In practice, though, it's downright oppressive to read. It isn't as bad as Heretics, but I had to take several humongous breaks when reading it.
This video cooked
My man
@@UncleHuss1😮
U r criminally underrated
was watching this video thinking this was from a channel with like a 500k subs cus of how well this video was made. underrated channel fs
Ayyy thanks man I appreciate it
this video is amazing! have u ever read sakamoto days?
Its not your seeing the future that dooms you, its your will being excircised against what you see that defines you. I.e. the more you fear to lose control the less youll ultimately have, and worse, become what you fear. Its only through accepting that things will come as they do, and letting go of all fear that ine can really be free. Enjoy the moment, and strive to be a good man without letting wilfulness get in the way.
they keep moving forward through all that pain CMONNNN
Trust me, sometimes it sucks.
How do you only have 3K subs?!?!
That thumbnail goes hard.
if i could see the future, id say helloo future me!!!
So the aot section caught me by surprise! I love the different view, thouhg idk if I agree with it all. Still great food for thought!
Fair enough!
Love the analysis! Great video about three characters I love. I’ve always found it interesting how certain characters are handled when they have such powerful knowledge of what’s to come. Don’t think it’s talked about nearly enough!
26:11 Unless my ears are tricking me you may need to see to that battery…
thank you man and i really do lol
Very interesting video and I am a fan of all three franchise.
Same here!
Finally some good anime essays
Paul is kinda unorthordox that he see a potential future, or half of it. Hes just, under the pressure of the context, decide to materialize the other half of it
Bruh the Barney jumpscare at 1 am 😢
I wouldn't use it for myself, id use it for others, guiding them to be better, not out right telling them but giving them the wisdom and more importantly the choice, more importantly i wouldn't let anyone know that i had the future sight. Im human im not perfect and i will most likely get something wrong in this journey, but id try all the same. For it is better to try and fail, than to have never tried in the first place
Thanks for making this vid , very cool ! I now know why I hate the aot ending :) (no sarcasm/hate , you help me finalize my thought)
"Those who try to hasten the end, may delay it. Those who work to delay the end, may bring it closer." -Paarthurnax Skyrim.
1:16 Eyyy, Made in Abyss OST - New World
based on this video i think would really enjoy how foresight and precognition is portrayed in the Warhammer 40k setting, specifically with the characters of The emperor of mankind and his sons sagnuinius & konrad curze
We have algorithms that predict the behavior of humans.
Telling the future gets easier and easier. It’s why we have these books and stories. Because there are living humans who can predict the future.
That's a scary thought
Flawless Eren analysis and how the mechanics of the story work 👏
You’d like Griffith from Berserk. You should do a video on him.
ohhh u should check jin in world trigger, the author give a really nice view on a person who has future sight