What If We Had 1939 Borders In The Modern World
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Explore an intriguing alternate history scenario in our latest video: 'What If We Had 1939 Borders In The Modern World.' Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey through time, imagining a world where the borders of 1939 remained intact into the present day. Witness how this altered global map reshapes political dynamics, international relations, and the balance of power. From shifting alliances to the emergence of new geopolitical challenges, we'll delve into the implications of maintaining historical borders in a contemporary context. This 'What If' exploration offers fresh insights into the ways historical events continue to influence our world today. Don't miss this captivating perspective on a parallel reality. Like, comment, and subscribe for more 'What If' scenarios and explorations of how history shapes our present and future.
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Could you just imagine Japan holding that specific territory without officially annexing it and not trying to gain any more territory for 85 years?
Turkish occupation of Syria moment
@@mappingshaman5280Goes for Northern Cyprus aswell
Yes but they are not so fare back in time
@@ratisbonawauthey literally have an official government there so no
@warinhari5050 well northern Cyprus is a puppet state to be fair whereas the Turkish occupation zone in Syria is just a military occupation by turkish troops with neither Turkish expansion, withdrawal or annexation within sight currently.
Petition for a 1942 and a 1950 version
Yes
Yess
He announced that he would do 1942 but he didn't say anything about 1950
1950 would be pretty much the same except the Soviet Union (and some soon to be independent colonies)
Yes
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This scenario would also mean Finland reversing the territorial losses of the end of the Winter War (1940), the end of the Continuation War (1944) and the final Paris peace treaty (1947), regaining the borders of the peace of Tartu (1920), but only gaining small amounts of new population and GDP. I guess that's... Acceptable? For Finland, I mean. But for the Russians? Not a big loss, but a slap to the face anyway. Politico-militarily, however, the effects would actually have a major impact: the islands in the Gulf of Finland would thus become NATO territory, and Russia would lose its Alakurtti airbase in the North as well as the port of Petsamo (which would allow Finland to conduct trade and post naval units to the Arctic waters near Murmansk).
And Russia would gain like, the baltics and Ukraine and Central Asia
@@marysartr I meant in this case to simply focus on the borders between Finland and Russia. But the Baltic states could still remain, depending on what month of 1939 we pick for this scenario. For most of the year, they were still free and independent.
@@J069FIX they were annexed in 1940 so my bad on that
Although the russian people in the area see Finland in a fairly positive light, i doubt they would be loyal, so this could be a disaster for Finland
13:54 "italy is staying in 8th place which i think is unique." Germany being in 4th place: *am i a joke to you?*
Noticed that too, lol.
I would love to see simmilar video for 1760's, with Germany split, Poland Lithuania still there, Britain owning US etc.
I like how brazil stays relevant even with the British,French Empire back and the Soviets lol
It's because of how many big countries (India, South Korea, etc) get fucked over boosting brazil up
my inner patriot tells me to be proud of it but we all know it's just because a third of the countries in the lists got wiped out in the process
@@brasilballs>Brazil makes the list Via murders of other
Somehow that fitting
I loved the last video of the pre-WWI borders so much! Thanks for making another video like that!
"Hey? Are you OK? Everyone is spamming "First!" Don't worry. I will protect you. Just enjoy the video."
I love how people spam first as if they're going to get a medal
Nobody spammed first
Thxs bro
F... First?
Absolutely trueè
What would happen if the borders that EmperorTigerstar had made would apply to the modern world?
What video are you referencing?
His viewers decide ww1 peace treaties video i believe?
Great video! It's great to know whenever Im bored, I'll always have your amazing history content, good work!
Thank you so much for these videos Possible History they are the best videos ever! Teaching me so much Historic knowledge.
Wonderful and great video! I really enjoyed it, keep up the great work. I always admire your research and art.
What if we had 1821 to 1822 borders in the modern era?
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Most of Africa would be empty lol
@@Drakulusmaybe thats to point
Morocco and algeria would be less angry at france and at each other
I know it s a silly idea bit for me would be funny a video like"what if the world had the borders of Risk"
That would be great lol, but risk sometimes skips islands (there is no Philippines) and the map isn’t accurate and some places are increased, squished together, but It would be great.
What if the Russians never helped the austrians with the Hungarian Rebellion
Really good one!
The 1942 version would really show how well the Axis did compared to how outgunned and outnumbered they were.
Surprise attacking all their neighbors really gave them a head start…
@@HiroProtagfighting 3 superpowers and reaching the level they did is still very good though.
from 1942 it was basically down hill for the axis
He made the video today
@@HiroProtag Poland knew an invasion was coming, they had months to prepare (although ill count it). After the Polish defeat, British and French troops just sat around doing nothing. If we had attacked Germany whilst they were finishing off Poland, it would have been an easy victory. Allied preparations were built in Norway, before the invasion, the same for the French. The only time where there was a true surprise attack was the Soviet Union.
This might be my favorite video you’ve ever made.
Our favorite Alternative history channel has uploaded again
Nice video as always my dude :D
13:53
Italy: im happy with what i have
can you make a video about the different peace deals and the border changes during the Napoleonic wars?
I love possible history keep posting
What if the Italian king was offered the Throne of Spain instead of being offered to the Germans
I wanna learn more about this.
What time period was it?
@@concept5631I think they may be referring to when the Hohenzollerns were offered the Spanish Throne in the very late 1800’s, just before the Franco-Prussian war.
@@haven1110 Wasn't the monarch German?
He was offered the throne. In 1870 after the Hohenzollern prince refused the throne following the pressure from the king of Prussia Wilhelm I at the time, the Spanish offered the throne to prince Amadeo the Duke of Aosta. He accepted and became the king of Spain. Re reigned from 1870 to 1873. He abdicated the throne in 1873 because of political infighting and instability. He famously said that Spain was a country that couldn't be governed. After his abdication, Spain became a republic for a year ( the first republic 1873-1874, not to be confused with the more famous second republic 1932-1936). After that they invited the Bourbons back on the throne.
@@obiwankenobi7251 Imagine being such a mess your monarch just gives up.
Okay, seriously, HOW DO YOU MEASURE THIS. I have so many alternate worlds and maps and I’d honestly love to be able to know how their population, GDP, economy, military, etc. all changes
Edit: I find it honestly really fascinating how consistent Italy is in both population and GDP
I'd be super interested to see one during the early modern era, during the height of colonialism, divided Germany and Italy/a Holy Roman Empire, and if you pick the right date, a divided or British United States. I think either right before the American Revolution, Civil War, or Napoleonic Wars would be the best dates for this
Also yeah 1942 borders could be fun
Amazing! Could you do 1960 borders next?
Amazing video as always man! Idea for your war series: one for austria from a margraviate to the empire!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
Leave hearth man!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
fun and interesting vid to watch love ur content
I like how Brazil didn't change a single thing, yet appeared on 4 of those 6 lists
6:11 I never realized how similar Belgium looks to post WW2 Yugoslavia, I csn never look at her the same way from now on
hey possible history can you tell me what you are using in 11:30. btw great video
Hey man! Huge fan from colombia here! Heres an idea for you: What kf everything went perfect for colombia and Simón bolivar managed to unite the former spanish colonies into a super power with gran colombia at its head? 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴
Great idea! he should do this.
This is an cool idea actually
Good idea
I've been wanting him to make a "what if spanish america united" for a while, so I support this!!!
I read this as "What if we had 1,939 borders"
After watching so many overseas creators, I am happy to have a creator from my same timezome which makes conten I like.
Would be interesting to see a 1772/1775 version
Goa & Timor seems to have been forgotten with Portugal.
A 1942 and a Cold War version of this video would be cool
I know this was six+ months ago, but i would love a part two done by my favorite alt history CZcamsr!!!
This will be another great video probably 😁
Hey man,with what app do you make this maps
As a citizen of the wildcard nation, I would just like to make a slight correction about the maps at the end: we joined the war in 1942 because Germany kept sinking our ships in the Atlantic, not just to join the UN.
We did however only fight in mainland Europe during the invasion of Italy, before then we were just involved in naval skirmishes.
Love this statistics!
Summed up RealLifeLores most interesting videos in less than 20 minutes, I’m impressed.
which one? the british empire video?
As an Indonesian, the thing that happened to us if 1939 goes back is probably we'll have more loanwords into Malay language here than already has, and the city planning will become more "European" like we used to had in 1950's.
Anyway, I made a list of Indonesian word borrowed from Dutch word translated into English:
[English] [Indonesian]
- Office Kantor
- Railroad Rel kereta/Sepur
- Aunty Tante
- Towel Handuk
- Room Kamar
And more.
do you guys still make spices or nah
@@vp.rossen Indeed, mostly for local cuisine, since it needs lot of spices to be made.
Great vid! One note about the British Empire's GDP; while it is "only" 15.1 trillion, its important to note how economies in places like India and Bangladesh are booming in our timeline, and imo with increased help from the mainland and other colonies, that economic growth is going to be even more rapid in this timeline.
So while the GDP would be at 15.1 trillion "now", it would be the fastest growing economy since China's economic miracle a few decades ago, maybe even moreso than that, and would likely overtake the US economy in 15 or 20 years.
Nice video!
Now try it with napoleonic map!
It will be fun lol.
Crazy that Brazil managed to make the cut AGAIN
I love this type of video, the ____ borders today. You should do more of it.
We need a 270 AD version
It would be interesting to see a video like this for 100 CE, the approximate greatest extent of the Roman Empire. Although I suppose most of the world wasn’t divided in to states at that point.
Jeez Cody how many CZcams channels do you have?
The GDP figures are a couple of years outdated. Buts still an awesome video.
What if everything went perfect for Greece
Alexander would live for longer and even conquer India. After his death his Empire wouldn't break up and his descendants would conquer Rome and Carthage, fully dominating the ancient world (except China).
How do you get your maps please?
cool video now do one with 1200 BC borders
I would really enjoy the same video but for 1800 or the start of the napoleonic or french revolutionary wars
Great through video! which I'm interested in that 1942 video and what if we reverted to the height of communism/Cold War borders?
I think its quite a fascinating video. it just shows how much growth has happened in Africa.
I feel like the reunited British Empire would be frankly terrifying if led properly. The vast amount of people and resources, if developed and not exploited could be insane.
You spelled brilliant wrong
Time Traveller: moves chair
The timeline:
Three Macaus would match the combined output of Angola, Mozambique, Sao Tome and Principe... Wild
Cabo Verde too
Ok now this is epic
Maybe it would have been better had we made the Imperial Federation and keep Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa under the Crown.
If we made the imperial federation pretty soon (and by that I mean immediately) it would be the indian empire, with the Indian population easily overpowering every other population in the empire through numbers alone. If migration and voting rights were allowed to india, it would be like South Africa today with one ethnic group dominating everything and only electing their parties.
@@mappingshaman5280 Why would we want to invite non Dominions into the Federation?
@Strettger well personally I wouldn't but there would be many whom would advocate to do so because "not doing so is waycist" or "I want to have more of the map."
@@mappingshaman5280 Well it's hardly racist, the Imperial Federation was to expand the UK to incorporate the Dominions and that being the ruling body of the Empire.
@@mappingshaman5280india is too big too be in a union with any country
13:28 - that's really sad from the time perspective. Poland was 10th economy in the world, but firstly German invasion destroyed the country, then Soviet occupation in 1945-1990 stop it's economy from growing up. Even now Poland isn't even in top 20. And still Germans will argue that they does not owe Poland any reparations.
nice
GDP per capita would be appreciated.
Also, when you use GDP figures comparing the different time periods, are these adjusted for inflation at all?
It is not clear, although I assume not.
Spending time researching all of those numbers you mentioned is hard, man. You'll kill the guy 😂
@@GoingForth Well, there are already GDP and population numbers, so it would require a single division for each country in question.
Inflation adjustment is more difficult, of course, as currency has changed a great deal since 1939.
You could do this but backwards, so ww1/ww2 with modern day borders and either modern day stats or ww1/ww2 stats.
The goat has posted 💪
the music in the background is too good i cant listen to what hes actually saying
1942 Video would be neat
Hi, could you post your sources for the 1939 GDP please?
You should make a What if everything went perfect for the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth
It would be intresting to see this scenario taking borders 1 year before french Revolution
Egypt was not really colonised by UK in WW2. It had its independence but with a British influence on the region.
that's really cool and weird at the same time can you try 1800 Borders you can use AI to predict it
Italy is just lazy to move to other spots on the list, too much work
0.1 seconds later: Complete chaos.
That would be sick
Idk if it's just me but for me, binkov's battlegrounds, monsieur z and possible history sound exactly the same.
Can you do 1848 borders in modern world
the only reason i would like this is that greater romania becomes a thing again
Wow it's hard to imagine all the changes in the map of the Americas between 1939 and now.
(Sarcasm.)
2:30 What about southern Dobruja?
Japan would be able to relase anime episodes more often than per a week wow
What if Great Britain was a absolute monarchy
Hey I have a recoomended scenario tho I dont know if you will see it or do it: what if the industrial revolution started in Russia? or perphaps even China? consider one of the 2 nations
Pls do a 1942 version!
New ph vid yo!
What if Beer Hall Putsch was successful? I can't figure out how ww2 would start
Belgium: i need some colonies to have a some paper in this history
Brazil with not changes: 💪
"Anglo population"; the Scottish, Irish and Welsh "are we a joke to you?"
Not only those. The Cornish, Manx, Zulu, Yupik, Inuit, Ndebele, Sotho, Swazi, Xhosa...
Heres an alternate history aspect that never gets talked about. What of the Ottomans remained neutral in WW1, for example the ships they ordered and pay for by the British get delivered, would the Sultan be less inclined to join the Central Powers?
I think you should do a 1941 version of this video.
What about the panama canal?
How about a 1815 version?
Yes a 1942 version would be cool
I think at 3:55 you meant for it to say billion not million
10:31 does modern Italy look strange to you?
Wait... u' re Dutch..... ( Just kidding, pls don't take it seriously. I love your videos- keep up the good work 👍👍👍)