Ork Planetary Invasion Strategy And Tactics! How The Greenskins Conquer Worlds In 40k Lore
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Next thing we will see the Ukrainians army will get a sponsorship
I would really like to see the contracts they make you sign for the money they pay.. It seems like all the adverts follow the same script almost word for word. I wonder if they want this or if its just the minimum work the content creator needs to put in to get his payment.
The more I see these ads it makes me not want to play it.
I’m kinda suprised this video wasn’t just 44 minutes of WAAAAGGHHHHHH
In summary: Orks make meme magic real.
It is the meme magic.
shadilay, my boi
Meme magic was real from the start
Where's Callum? OrcOrcsOrcsOrcOrcsOrcsOrcOrcsOrcsOrcOrcsOrcsOrcOrcsOrcs!
Shadilay
Ork plantaty invasion step 1.
*point the hood ornament of your rok or kroozr towards the nearest inhabited planet and shout "here we go."*
44 minutes on "Ork tactics and strategy" that is a lot of waffling, but story time with Arch is always welcome so bring on the waffling.
10% of which was raid advert....
With a 4 minuet add
I mean.. They land and go Waaagh and krump till they get krumped...
Pretty easy to skip and honestly think it would be closer to 9% because 44 minutes if that's 4 minutes lol just messing around
I guess that's the price we pay for this... vivid and painting storytelling style?😘
I remember reading a story that an Ork invasion was going to invade a planet but the question on how to land came up.
They reasoned that if someone caches the ships when they hit the ground they would be fine.
So they had the bottom the ships lined with Gretchin to "catch" the ships on impact with the planet.
And with a bloody splash most of the ships survived re-entry.
Fake news. The question never came up, they just crash the Roks in a way of imitating "drop pods"
Keep in mind Ork Roks are literal hollowed out meteorites with Ork engines stuck on the back, and are not supposed to go back to orbit but be scavenged to make war machines.
My headcanon: Outside of the more advanced Warbosses, Ork intelligence is the equivalent of running on 'safe mode'.
Their intellignce scales with their numbers. Useful for staying low profile when there's not many of them
@@pirig-gal Also other than the Ork waagh, there is a statistical truth to it. Put simply, the more Orks there are, the more likely talented Orks are going to appear.
@@pirig-gal no, their imagination scales with numbers. they imagine they can make increasingly insane shit work lol.
@@conan2096 That's a good one too. "We believe were smurt, and there's a lot of us, so it must be tru"
Hmm, make rock into ax. -Ork feral.
Hmm, make rock into gun. -Ork Mek.
Hmm, make rock into Rok. -Ork Big mek.
Hmm, Hit person with rock. -Ork Warboss
Pretty sure that Ork planetary invasions can be summarized as "Needs More Dakka".
Sometimes "Needs More Choppas", and sometimes "Needs More Choppas and Dakkas"
The longer version is: Need to make or find more appropriate Dakka and bring it to battle.
@@AAhmou Also: "WHO DA ZOG FORGOT TO PAINT DA SHIP RED!?!"
I was going to say that basically sums up Ork anything. . .
@@internetzenmaster8952 IT WAS THE BLOODY MEK DONT KNOW WHICH ONE THOUGH BOSS BUT I AM PAINTING IT EVEN REDDER DONT KNOW HOW ITS MADE BUT I HAVE IT
I’m immediately getting flashback to arch’s Armageddon lore series and his cursing of whatever grot was put in charge of the logistics 🤣
Sigh good times good times
Or better yet, The Beast :D
@@tomasburian6550 lol a valid point
About the Tau thing, there was a story called the war of dakka in one of the codecies, I think it was fifth edition. Therein a Warboss after getting frustated that his boyz where always shoot dead before they could reach the Tau before a proper fight could be had hired every Flash Git he could find and upgunned pretty much everything in his Army.
He then engaged a smaller outpost of the Tau and started to turn it to rubble with his firepower. When the main force of the Tau moved to reinforce they were ambushed and surounded by Orks who just waited for that exact move.
That is remarkebly close to a Kauyon tactic, the Orks set a bait the Tau could not ignore to move them out of position so that the Orks could force them in a unfavorable Engagement.
oh emperor the orks are learning tactics and talking philosophy we need to kill em before they figure out empire building
Look, the Tau might be blue, an' dat should make them lucky. But somehow they managed to get lousy warbosses, can't even manage to get them close enough to enjoy the sounds of dakka on both sides. So they felt sorry for those unlocky grotz, decided to be downright neighborly by showing em' how to enjoy a scrap, give em' a proppa orky experience. What is the point of a WAAAGH if everyone is not getting the most of it ?
I imagine Gretchin are used to make ammo and every so often a particularly angry Gretchin will make a bullet designed to blow up the gun. God help them though if the Ork firing that gun survives and is smart enough to know the Gretchin are responsible.
Most stuff from ork logistics comes from squiqs.
They have squiqs that produce oil, food, leather, hair, musical instruments, ect.
The rest is made by Gretchin slaves and mech boys.
Honestly, the gun probably shoots it anyways, the idea of an ork gun misfiring is what Should happen. It doesn't. Ironically the bullet exploding after it hits someone is going to get repeat customers who really like the gretchin for 'splody' bitz.
its awesome to see you here in this little Comment section.
When one walks beneath the Arch, even it's shadow imparts knowledge... Your older stuff is still quite entertaining and almost as overly-detailed as Dorn's morning walk plans
Yes, I remember when he did more than an hour-long video about ork logistics for the first invasion of Armageddon.
Dorn does take very long and very enthusiastic walks around the Imperial Palace doesn't he? But I suppose it's only natural for a master Structural engineer to enjoy looking at his work and seeing how well it's holding up over the years
Dorn doesn't take walks he surveys fortifications.
Bro talking like arch is a literal arch but of knowledge which I really do like it's interesting
The Tau vs Ork WAAAGH is called the War of Dakka.
And Yes, The orks started to fight more like Tau by using more Dakka and less choppa's.
Also started using tactics like retreating.
Bonus, during this WAAAGH the big raid happened which is worth a video on its own.
speaking of war shaping the orks, other good examples are:
Tuska deamon killa's WAAGH against daemons (started using more weirdboys)
The Octarius sector (ork are using gestalt weapons like the ork crown wich allows orks to enslave lower Tyrnid lifeforms)
The Eldar exoduties (could not remember were it was from. But it's was squiqs vs dinasaurs)
@@Turnil321 Some may think the orks developed these new strategies and tactis to better combat their enemies, I like to think they did them because they thought they were cool ideas. Like innocent children imitating their older siblings haha
Riding on big dinosaurs into battle? That sounds like fun, lets get some big squigs and ride them into battle!
@@Turnil321 Orks have mind control devices?
@@valtersplume3726 It's more of a hacking device that allows brainboys to control the smaller Trynids just as the bigger Trynids do. Right now this crown is only mentioned in 1 story so it's not yet spread amongst the other orks.
@@Turnil321 Orks have actually combined technology and psychic powers on several occasions before. The Temple Gargant (the leviathan that appeared during the War of the Beast) used WAAAGH! energy as power source and in its main weapons. And during the Kalidar war, Blood Axes built a similar Gargant (it wasn't the size of a mountain, though).
Greenskins sure aren't afraid of innovating and trying out unconventional ideas...
'ERE WE GO! 'ERE WE GO! 'ERE WE GOOO! Seriously though, props to Arch for discussing and explaining lore in a fairly mature, yet humorous manner. Other channels may have their own upsides in comparison (also really like the Oculus's in-character stuff, for one), but I'm unlikely to be going anywhere. Arch was my first lore channel for 40K and despite controversies and the occasional dose of hyperbole, I love his style of lore explanation.
I feel the same. His sense of humor makes this series much more enjoyable and it's much closer to my sense of humor, than Majorkill for example.
Sometimes he goes a bit far when he smugly explains a subject and tiptoes around a sentence for 5 minutes. But anything is better than majorkill. The guy really went downhill since he blew up.
@@georgie3611 An Imperial Inquisitor should have a bit smug lol
@@georgie3611 Yeah MK desperately wants to be a somebody he will throw anyone under the bus to get attention all while trying to justify his views with "if's" and "but's"
My first WH40K Lore Channel as well.
I find no interest in any of his pitiful detractors allegations and completely enjoy his talented way of conveying subject material whatever the source.
Ironically Ork Gargants are actually the most realistic giant robots in the whole setting in that they're wider at the bottom and the least likely to fall over.
The Orks' high-morale is partially due to their armies being made of volunteers; not just volunteers for-military-service but also for specialization. If you want to be an anti-tank-trooper you will be, if you want to be a-sneaky-commando you will be, all it takes is a few teef that grow and fall out continuously. An-army-where-nobody is doing anything that they would rather not do except maybe if an ork is saving up teef for a few months to buy his-own-fighter-plane.
The efficacy of all-volunteer-forces when compared to conscript-forces-of-the-same-size is well known in the modern day but what if this was taken one step further? It wouldn't work for humans though because we're-such-a-peaceful-species that we generally have to-dehumanize-people-to-destroy-them. Lions, for example, do not require such-delusions. Very few humans want to have-deadly-fights-for-their-own-sake so we are unable to rise to the Orks' level in this regard.
speak for yourself, it is incredibly easy to turn an 18yo into a unfeeling killing machine. the hard part is turning him back into a civil person when he can burn a church full of people down using their screams as lullaby's. that is where you get the ptsd. But i recommend reading a book called On Killing, by Dave Grossman.
@@davidmccormick7419 Did you just admit to committing-a-warcrime/crime? When has what-you-described ever happened involving a large group of people not-in-warfare? One of the largest problems-during-WWI was that a significant minority of soldiers would go the entire campaign refusing to actually-shoot-at-the-enemy and just pretending to be bad-shots-instead.
Even amoung-the-insane-it-is-quite -rare for the cops-to-roll-up on a mellow, relaxed-mass-murderer. If humanity had the same comfort-with-killing that lionity does we would never live in a world where some 99% of interactions between sovereign nations are peaceful, such as trade, travel, and communication. If we were like lions there-would-be-only-war.
@@zigzag1630 Why-do-you-do-this-shit?
Also your both right, it's not that easy to get people to start killing people, not without dehumanizing them first. However, once you get people into that mind set, it's hard to get them out.
Also peacefull is a relative term, especially when comparing real life space orcs, to those found in fiction.
@@patrickbuckley7259 Fair question, I do it because-it-makes-the-bots-go-🤯. It is a-fairly-effective-system.
Thank you, that's a good point. No-one likes to think themselves-a-fool, so while it is hard-to-change-a-mind once, it is infinitely more-difficult-to-change-a-mind-twice.
@@zigzag1630 It's actually quite easy to get humans to kill other humans without "dehumanizing" them first. Humans are animals, and putting a human into a kill or be killed situation, a human will kill quite easily.
now i kinda want to see a several hour long video of Arch going on random tangents underlined by a grand overall topic.
Horus Heresy series has plenty of those 😅
The most amusing and surprising thing of this video is orks actually have a strategy in the first place beyond pointing at a planet and saying "see that? we are going to smash it."
Another episode of "Orks work by Spiral Energy and Pure Nakama Power" with Arch
There are few things that make me giggle like an excited child like giving Arch a solid excuse to describe the details of how Orks work for an extended period of time. Describing how orks would survive crashing into a planet was enough to all but incapacitate me. I love your style. Simultaneously detached scientist and giddy fan.
There is mention of orks even using Tau gear in looted tanks. Hovercraft with ork guns and Trucks with Tau gear strapped to them.
Some of the ork lootas models with their shoulder-mounted gun rigs actually have tau fusion blaster guns as some of the rigs. So it's not just a piece of story background! it's actually on the table top with the model itself
The Tau vs Ork conflict was described in the Ork codex for 5th edition, where I believe Kaptin' Badruk (or some warboss that hired him), after being trounced once, got together every flashgit he could find and engaged the Tau in an extended gunfight.
You have touched on Orc engineering but it would be very cool to hear you go more in depth on it.
The Orcs are just so much fun and a very good but terrifying comic relief for setting.
Sorry to say I really do enjoy hearing about the little or big green bastards...
EDIT to add:
I really wish we had more information on the Orcs of the past, the Krorks was it?
The full powered version that the old ones created to fight the Katan and Necrons.
From what I've been able to gather imagine an Orc that is both much larger and stronger as well as highly intelligent which is a truly terrifying thought.
Its C'tan, not Katan.
@@mutegrab666 that's how orks call them, so you can't really criticize him
@@mutegrab666 Kyle Katarn the C'tan
I can only imagine the orks of Ulanor that actually gave the freaking Emporer pause!
@@dgurevich1 Yeah I don't think Orks really distinguish between C and K.
I have missed this series so much, hearing you talk about war logistics is easily my favorite of the videos you make
Same
The war Arch mentioned with the Tau.
Must be "The War of Dakka" recalled reading it on the wiki.
I love that they called it that and hate that only now do I know it exists. Bless these fungal miscreants
I read it in the 5th Edition Ork Codex. ;)
Hearing how Arch is trying to hide/keep on leash his inner history nerd is pretty adorable XD
It's like hearing 7 year old who WILL not take his favourite sweet before dinner, so he can have it after in full bliss.
Who else votes Yes on Arch doing the Vraks treatment on the Ork invasion of Armageddon I & II?
That would be amazing
Arch, please do not discount your earlier work. Even your old stuff is superior to most. Others either don't have your humor, or cover the lore so listen-ably and succinctly. Most don't even cover the subjects that you do, or in such comprehensibly long form....your coverage of Armageddon, the Death Corps, and Vraks are top notch, hands down. I regularly re-watch your videos and recommend them to others. You may not feel it has the polish you desire, but to me anyway, it is a storybook I go back to often, and rely on. Please keep up the fantastic job! Do not despair for your older self, for he was enjoyably funny and cool too.
Military strategy probably comes in the same lane for orcs as honest journalists for us. They do exist and there can be a hint of it now and then. Buuuut most of the time it's just free fire of biggest pile of dirt you can find in a kinda general direction xD
Great vid👌
Just like in real life the honest and good ones gets outshined by the others who don't bring up estimated casualties and things like that
@@darkbozo11 You're so beyond the target that you actually think it has ANYTHING to do with the individual choices :') WTF do you think? Every channel is an independent entity? Lmfao
The going off topic section reminds me strongly of scenes in Stargate Atlantis where Rodney is talking about 'leadership.'
I missed these, thanks for the oodles of content my good man!
I love that little segment where you tried to resist the historical tangent.
'An ork in a pirate hat sits on a ship in high orbit. He has come up with a genius new plan for getting troops to a planet surface. He calls it 'DA PlAnK!''
A good illustration of an Ork invasion can be found in "Brutal Kunnin'"
Very fun novel that. Orks vs Mechanicus. The The most logical versus the race that actively violates the concept of logic.
Makes me think of whatshisname the Necron Lord, who's one of the most intelligent, cunning, ruthless, and experienced commanders in the known galaxy this side of anything Tzeentch-y...but never, ever wins against orks because it can't comprehend their stupidity.
There really needs to be some animations accompanying this. I can’t help but snicker imagining imperial citizens “panicking like it’s nobody’s business”, or an ork sitting in front of a box with a paper with the words “waughpedia” scribbled on it stapled on, or a poor gargant hanging on for dear life as its “metal coffin” hurtles down toward the surface as the Boss shrugs as the words “maybe next time” are narrated. 🤣
You know you want to do it Arch, and you know we want to see it. Make IRL lore videos! Real war history focusing on the crazy and interesting parts of human conflict from any and all time periods in your enthralling style would be fantastic.
Tbh, I always assumed that the whole „logistics“ stuff as well as most manufacturing is handled by the Grots. They are said to be smarter( even able to count above their numbers of digits) and due to their small size perfect for maintenance duty. Also that gives them some sort of „job security“ since the Orks won’t use (too much) of em as cannonfodder when they run supplies and maintain and/or build new weapons for the Boyz to fight with
Orks actually have squigs that naturally produce fuel for their engines. They're called oily squigs and have long trunks to help with the refueling process.
As demonstrated by the ultra marines blue colour gives you protection against all kinds of damage.
Blue iz a lucky kolour.
Didn't work well for vdv
I wouldn't mind a retelling of the story of Armageddon. And yes; you have covered orc engineering (but retelling of that is fine too)
Wait, Orks repair stuff? I thought they just built stuff, and it more often than not blew up, killing the builder, the operator, or possibly both. Didn't think repairs really factored into the equation.
Depends on the Ork I guess. Like, a Mek would be more likely to repair his gear rather than replacing it.
Ork "repairs" are actually kinda of terrifying because they don't just fix things, they modify it as well. Trukk get blown up? More armor. Didn't keep up with the other trucks? More powerful engine. Not killy enough? More Dakka.
Whatever the fault was gets corrected and improved upon. Late campaign battlewagons tend to be more heavily armed and armored than should actually be possible.
Don’t despair Arch your Armageddon series is still good I’ve watched it about 4 times
The bum rush against a more skilled opponent really does work.
One of my friends had gotten pretty good in guilty gear x2 back in the days in order to try and beat me at it(he tried and failed till he got bored of trying), anyways at one point we had a newbie with us and my friend decided to challenge the newbie and to his horror(and my amusement) the newbie just mashed buttons while rushing him and the newbie won multible times.
Ever since that day my friends go to tactic in any game is bum rush.
man i’m always excited for these videos it’s honestly the most interesting topic when it comes to 40k
Your “historical tangents” are really good in explaining things and putting them in perspective. Do not resist @arch resisting the historical tangents is futile
"Good waaagh sir!"
"And a jolly good waaagh to you too!"
The Britz Clan.
The warboss Brogaz Jahnsun
might be an idea to make a video about the different gestalt consciousness in 40k.
There are a lot of them. Orks have it, The mechanics have it, the Tyranids ofcource and also humanity might have it.
Orks are practically just a big green Dorothy, all they gotta do is click thei hills and say “I think I can i think I can” 😂
This series actually makes me curious if Arch has read the book The Siege of Castellax, where orks invade an iron warriors held world. Would be interesting to see his take on that particular conflict seeing as the Orks actually used some neat (to me at least) tactics during the fighting. Plus I'd love to see Arch absolutely tear apart some of the idiotic mistakes and decisions made by the iron warriors. (Seriously I'm not even a strategy guy and I could tell you that the iron warriors in Castellax were morons to the last for the most part).
(Edited for spelling)
Ork invasion strategy: a party buss with more gun and blindly driving into the nearest building
Awww... Arch had a Lindybeige moment. That was adorable.
To quote Red Dwarf: smooth as an Egyptian whiskey.
I would love to see an indepth breakdown of Deep Operations tactics especially in comparison to German Blitzkrieg or American Shock and Awe.
Shock and Awe is live in Baghdad rn why do you need spoonfeeding
It is truly sad how excited I get When anybody references my beloved Starcraft!
Orks are truly one of the most interesting races in 40k. They’re brutish and simple, yet a complexity arises from this that constantly fascinates.
Im so hyped for this. I very much enjoy your content in the last months ❤
It sounds like we need some historical videos on military tactics.
"Warships" is a generous way of describing the Roks...
I actually like the little historical factoids and tangents you go on.
I swear ive seen a country do an invasion with similar tactics recently
Another very good video Arch. I love your logistics applied to lore. You are an absolute legend
Step one find rock step two find planet step three crash into planet. If feeling fancy every ork has their pinky up while drinking ork tea.
The Beast is just the beginning. You could make a full on rant series of all of the stupid writing decisions GW has made over the years. Which now that I think about it would probably be very entertaining.
Last week video on the emperor is like that..
We need full on, finding the worst offenders. Putting them in a cage and blastinf them apart with facts and logic.
Arch was kinda miffed and annoyed with the Emps stuff.. we DEMAND cawl levels of annoyance!
The Beast Arises is still in the realms of possibility for Orky shenanigans, so _that_ is justifiable. The majority of more recent writing decisions (especially stuff in the Horus Heresy)... not so much.
So his Horus Heresy series. Much like the books it devolved quickly.
My favorite non-Vraks Arch series returns, and an Ork video to boot! Is it my birthday?
I'm about to watch the video and am very interested what you're going to talk about. And not because I believe Orcs have some very interesting and sophisticated invasion plan, or their tactics are spectacular to behold. Actual, it's exactly the opposite. It's Orcs, I am expecting them to crash all their ships into the planet and then the survivors kill anything in sight, bigger the better. Let's see if I'm right or wrong, and what is there to talk 40 minutes about.
Step 1: Lan on the planet (survival optional)
Step 2: WAAAAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Step 3: Discover that you landed on the wrong one
Step 4; WAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Step 5: Use the new rocket to land on the right one
Step 6: Do steps 2 and 4 until you own the planet
The war for Rynn’s World novel highlights one of the more tactical Ork Waagghhs that I am aware of
Tell Raid to send you a longer music loop for their ads. It's nice that you are enjoying the game so much.
I hope we have some more years of arch lore videos ahead of us!
It's been a while since Arch did a similar video (when he talked about system invasions and analyzed one particular event) and I'm happy to hear more on the subject. Back to the video I go.
ERE WE GO, WAAAAAAAGH!
Thanks for the lore, Arch!
You forget arch, the orks of "oil squigs" that produce both lubricant and fuel fort hier amchiens. Seriosuly GW gave the orks squigs that can do that so now even that is handled automatically.
Do it! Do it, you glorious bastard!
I had just re-listened to your unfinished war of the beast playlist and i want to see that completed, no matter what.
For a moment there arch I thought you were going to say "It's your boy!! Raid shadow legends" dank style lol
Boy with large pointy piece of metal sits around while another boy approaches. "Da humie sayz it's some stabs between combustion engines and space travel." "Yu mean steps doez yu?" "No" STAB STAB STAB STAB
Congratz on the 250k Arch..its longue overdue and overdeserved :)
Ork invasion plan
Step 1: DAKKA!
Step 2: KRUMP 'EM WIT YA CHOPPA!
Step 3: WAAAAAAAAAGH!
Step 4: Repeat.
Thanks for video. Glad you are continuing this series.
Arch physical restraining himself from going on a history tangent is the best thing ever 🙃
I mean Ghazghkull did "plan" both invasions of Armageddon.
Thanks Arch for starting my 40k addiction
When Arch talks about Orks. you know its gonna be a good time, no matter the specific topic!
Please do not insult your first 3 wars videos. These were some of the first I ever found and omg they are still fucking brilliant
Pure Arch History Channel when tbh. I'd love to hear you do a series on WWI
That bit about cats made me remember something. Pause this video and type in that bar up there "Cats on Ketamine". It is used on them by vets for operations and stuff but it is hilarious to see them try and walk around.
No Plan survives First Contact with the Waaaagh !!!
Oh awesome! Glad to see a return to these
Now I'm curious if there's enough examples in the lore for an Ork planetary defense video. I mean I've heard of Octarius, but that's it.
Step 1: Find planet full of violent animals or people.
Step 2: Drop onto planet and fight things on planet.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
Ork engineering: (*insert picture of Todd Howard) It just works.
Ork and strategy in the same sentence, such a top tier oximoron that I had to see what is about.
"Use a gun, and if that dont work, use more guns."-A hardhat texan.
Thanks for giving me something to look forward to ever week man
Love your work Arch ✌
Great stuff and why Orks are so fun as they are all strong but as a attacking force can be weak and broken easily or like during the Great Crusade a threat to a Galaxy conquering army. That leaves so much room for cool battles and scenarios.
44 minutes! You strung out; "see planet, smash into planet, stay on planet"
Good to see things coming back to normal.
Also arch I think the original war for Armageddon series cause really good paint still holds up pretty well it’s how I got into your channel and I still listen to that playlist on occasion
Love it! Best Warhammer lore channel there is❤
Thanks!
Love these type of videos.
Thank you.
Awesome video
Archs lore video are the highlight of my weekend. I enjoyed his big epic series, but the Varied topic lore videos are my favorite!
Hey! you shouldn't hate your old content. even If armagedon is not up to your content today, it is still very fun to listen to
My idea of ork logistics is squigs. Need oil, squish a burny squig for juice. Need gunpowder, dry a boomy squig and grind up.
Orks make everything they need.
Crude, gross, mean and not HR compliant but it works.