As a toyota mechanic, i can tell you full stop the 2.7 is by far the most reliable and durable engine money can buy end of story. We’ve only ever changed the oil in those. We’ve never seen any issues out of that engine. It’s unreal.
Toyota Mechanic from Australia here. We have 2.7 engines in our HiLuxes ... and I 100% confirm Justin's statement. Bulletproof engines, meanwhile 2.8 diesels are a constant pain in the butt.
4.0 was just as bulletproof and the 3.5’s have been doing great so far. 2.7 doesn’t have enough muscle to move this truck nicely and they end up using more fuel than the 3.5.
@@KubanKevin I believe you. I have a standard cab Tacoma 2.7 and a 5 speed manual transmission and I get about 24. And I drive about 85. It will get a couple of mpg better if I drive 65 or 70
2.7 is very reliable and durable. Yes it's slow but if you want a bullet proof engine without direct injection garbage that can last 500,000 with normal maintenance. The engine is also easy to work on the rare chance it needs repairs. If you don't like this engine than be happy it will be discontinued soon. Any Mechanic would love to own this engine.
I have the 2012 Tacoma with the 2.7, and prior I had a 1994 model just 1 year before the Tacoma took over, and it had the famous 22R motor. Over that span of time, they accumulated almost 400,000 miles, and only replaced 1 water pump, in the older model. The 2012 2.7 may be unrefined but it easily stays with traffic, gets decent mileage, and will probably outlast new trucks from some other makers. Long live the 2.7 Toyota SALUD!
I once owned a 1987 Toyota long bed extended cab model with the 22r with a 5speed transmission. I kept it 22years and I got rid of it for my 2005 Tundra. When the reviewers emphasize how slow the 2.7 is, this would not deter me from the 2.7 because the 22r was also low on power and slow. Additionally, I drove that 22r 5 times across country with no problems. That being said, I will take buy the 2.7 because of its reliability and not be concerned over its lack of refinement and power.
Seems like this truck gets up and moves just fine. If I lived in Texas, Florida, or Oklahoma I think a truck like this would be great. Reliability over performance wins hands down. Anyone who has had their vehicle in the shop 4 times a year knows this. "Mom & Dad, can I borrow your car again for a couple of days? My Nissan Pathfinder is in the shop again"
I really appreciate the 2.7L 4 cylinder in these trucks. They're bulletproof. The only other engine that stands up with the 2.7L 4 cylinder is the 4.0L V6 that you can find in the 2nd gen Tacoma and the current generation 4Runner.
2.7L I4 uses cast-iron block. 4.0L V6 uses aluminum block. The proper comparison is the 3.0L I6 JZ cast-iron engine that was previously found in Toyota Supra, Lexus IS300, and Lexus GS300, but it was discontinued in 2005 in last vehicle.
This truck is the underdog that will outlive all the other trucks, the only truck that makes economic sense nowadays, and big enough for most every day tasks
I had a 2013 2.7 4x4 standard trans. I used it to pull my tractor which was about 6000 pounds with trailer. It absolutely did fine. It handled better then full size 3/4 I owned. Even with Ac cranked. Yes it takes longer on hills. The 4cyl just works and pulls fine.
I pulled a car trailer with 2 side by sides on it (about 5k lbs total) with my 2.7 double cab and it was fine. Definitely needed trailer brakes but the trans didn't even get hot on hilly backroads and I dogged the hell out of it.
I just got a 2007 2.7 4x4 standard trans. Yes the 2.7 pulls fine up hills on my weekday commute. This drivetrain was very hard to find. It was 146k miles, but from what I've heard that's not a lot for any Toyota engine, especially this one.
I have a 2006 2.7 5speed manual with 234k now and still going strong. I've pulled my trailer plenty times with over 5k pounds on it with the bed loaded down with lumber. Temperature never moved above normal and over the Mississippi river bridge ! I love my 2.7
@@Stelcom66 Yessir! I purchased new in 2006 2.7 5speed and has 234k miles on it. My 5speed has no problem coming onto the interstate hitting 65 or 70 . Still has original clutch and water pump, Alternator 😊😊
“They”…Toyota…have made this engine one of the most bulletproof and reliable of all time!!! Those of us who own this beast, can vouch. Do some research, maybe?
Preach On, Brother!!! It is so frustrating to look for meaningful content, when so many of these guys just spout worthless personal opinion… with no scientific method of research and verification, related to the vehicle that they choose to review. I will definitely cross this one off my list of competent and insightful car and truck content creators. For the Toyota faithful out there, I recommend the car care nut CZcams channel, as well as Alex on autos. These are two competent reviewers who know their stuff and do their homework. Join me in an unsubscribe and unlike!!!
The 2.7 is all you need. Bought my 22 Tacoma Sr access cab black 4x4 without the jump seats, wanted that simple 4 banger before they got discontinued. Have nothig bad to say about it. Paid off. Six foot bed that actually gets use. Simple truck for this simple man......
I'm on my 2nd 4 cylinder Tacoma SR5 and can tell you that I've never had 1 issue with either one of them in over 15 years of owning them. BULLET PROOF!! They aren't race cars by any means but they will run for 100's of thousands of miles without a problem.
I once asked my grandfather why he married my grandmother. He said she was pretty but other girls were prettier. He told me he choose her because everyone wasn't chasing after her so he wouldn't have to fight over her. She was dependable and would be there for him for the rest of his natural life. That's why you get a 2.7.
Criticizing an engine that will run for 300-500k+ miles. The 3.5L V6 has a ton of problems. The 2.7L 4cyl is bulletproof. I think your criticism is out of ignorance.
I have a 2018 with the 4 cylinder. I drove it for 3 years and tolerated the sluggish, lagging engine. I installed the sprint booster and now it's a screamer. Try one, you won't believe the difference. Also, it runs fine at highway speed, no shimmy. It's not a cadillac but I've made 400 mile road trips with no problem.
I have a 2017 SR 2.7 5 speed manual 4x4 and love it. I also added a sprint booster to mine. Won’t say it’s not sluggish on the Highway, but its not that bad. I love my truck. And I garantee it will last longer than the new 3.5 V6.
@@Stockiroc86 It's an adapter that controls the response of the throttle body shortening the delay from the time you press the pedal to the time that it actually opens up to accelerate, it's similar to a pedal commander.
I will take RELIABILTY over top end performance every day. The 2.7 is enough for a mid size truck. It's been in use since 2008 on SUV's and by far the most durable and reliable motor since the old 2.4.
I have a 2018 2.7 have an overland rack and all the goodies 2wd and i do everything with it not a bad truck it depends on how you use it and how you take care of it. All my toyota trucks have been 4 cyl. No issues just got them to high mileage and still ran well
I own a 2020 SR5/ access cab and put 8k on it in about a little over a year. Yes, the engine is a bit slow and underpowered but other than that i like the truck and would have purchased it again exactly as it as is. i do not need extra power as i seldom drive the highways and i haul only light stuff. Mostly i drive alone and i am not trying to impress anyone. i am confident that this truck will outlast me. I wanted the most dependable vehicle and engine i could find and that is what i believe i got. I did like your video and your point of view.
My 4 cylinder carried a full size pool table without any hesitation, of course it wasn’t a long drive but it still amazed me that it actually drove flawless
I have the TSS off-road model, just flipped 30,000 Mille’s and I enjoy it. I have Pulled a boat and small trailer, and my passenger didn’t think I was pulling anything. Handles well and has great pick up. Thanks for your review. I’ve had the V6 model in the past, but for fuel economy and what I use mine for, I like the space and power my 4 cylinder has currently. Thank you.
I have decades of experience with three Toyota Trucks, and some people can't appreciate how comforting it is to know that if you simply maintain it regularly, that Toyota 4 cylinder (sr22 included) will start, run, and get you home 99.99% of the time throughout the entire ownership. It won't be the fastest, when is getting home a race?
I bought a new Taco with 4cyl, because I want to drive it 500K miles. I like that it doesn't have a turbo, which would be the first thing to break. It goes fast enough for me because I gave up drag racing years ago.
Let me tell you I am an owner of a 17 Tacoma 4wd with the 2.7l engine and has a 5 spd manual trans. It is the most reliable engine period. The engine is a timing chain which all timing chain engines can be loud.
I'm on my 2nd crew cab 4 banger Taco and you can't kill them. I've towed 5k lbs (using trailer brakes) had 1500lbs in the bed, and averaged 21-23mpg regularly. The 2.7 is detuned like crazy. Show me another 4 cylinder this big with dohc, 16 valves, direct injection and variable valve timing that only makes 160hp. Toyota detuned it on purpose, they know it'll last forever. They don't want it to compete with the V6 that costs thousands of dollars more. The 6 speed auto is the same for both engines, it just has a few less clutches in the 4 cylinder version. I drive a tractor trailer around DC and Baltimore, y'all don't know what slow is. You don't need a 400hp truck to commute to work and you don't need 400ft lbs of torque to tow your little utility trailer with your riding mower on it. My 2019 Tacoma was $20k cheaper than my 2016 Ram was and does all the same shit.
I've got a 2006 2WD SR5 Tacoma with a 2.7 liter engine. Yeah, not fast, not flashy, maybe uninspiring, but its a great daily driver and reliable as hell, and works great in So Cal traffic. I've never had any mechanical problems with mine over 170K miles except a water pump at 36K miles which the dealership fixed for free. 👍 As for getting on the SoCal freeway, you can always slow down and merge in behind the truck, no need to 'race it.' Only two issues I have with it are the cabin noise (you can hear the drivetrain underneath your feet, easy to fix with some aftermarket insulation), and the seats are not that comfortable if you're driving for a few hours (but I didn't buy it as a 'sofa-on-wheels'). IF it wasn't for the pandemic shortage I'd have bought a new 2WD Tacoma double cab by now, maybe the 6cyl, but a 4cyl would not be out of the question.
I own a 2007 regular cab manual with 2.7. It's probably totally different due to weight, size and manual transmission torque. 72,000 and still running strong!
I've got a '22 SR5 Access Cab 2.7L 4x4 on order and can't wait. Hauling a few bags of mulch or fertilizer a few times a year is all I need one for. This will get the job done.
This guy does not like the 4 cylinder tacoma but you can bet it will probably outlast anything he would recommend.... Own this truck and the v6 both engines very good The 4 cylinder has a cast iron block and port injection and is a long life engine my tacoma has a standard cab and seat delete package also 4 wheel drive and I am very happy with it double cab does add more weight than standard cab
I’m not sure why people think this should perform like a Porsche, it’s not a sports car it’s a little truck. Toyota does care about the engine they put in this truck, they just didn’t care about speed. This engine is about low end torque and fuel efficiency from the era when Trucks had big V-8’s and got 15 miles a gallon. This engine is from an older era, and they kept this engine in the tacoma for reliability. Toyota does care, they care about reliability.
There is a 2.7 tacoma on youtube that has 1.5 million miles. He uses it to deliver cancer medicine. I think it went almost a million until the head gasket blew, and the trans started to have problems at 1.2 million. I own 4 of these trucks with the 2.7 and they will run forever without major repairs. Just change the oil every 5K and use the best quality synthetic 0-w20 you can find.
There's a lady who put 1 millions miles on a Hyundai Elantra using it for parts delivery. Hyundai awarded her a new car. Continuous operation and highway travel always prolong vehicle life regardless of what it is.
@@palebeachbum I also read someone put 1 million miles on a Honda CR-V lately. There have been many cars that can do this, but most do not have original transmission as they seem not to last as long as the engines. Manual trans is probably more durable over time than autos
@@spe808 if it's highway travel, that puts the least wear and tear on a transmission since there a lot less shifting going on. It's also easiest on the engine cruising steadily. That's why highway driven cars tent to last much longer than city commuters.
It seems to accelerate just fine! Sounds good too. Since you are reviewing vehicles I’m surprised how non-mechanical you are. The shimmy is not anything to do with worn out steering, it is an unbalanced or damaged wheel or tire. It’s surprising you start knocking the vehicles quality because of what’s likely a simple tire balance costing from free to $20
Everybody beats the crap out of rentals (myself included). A shimmy is not a 'feature' to the truck, but a bug with the one he is driving at the moment. Really weird how anybody would think otherwise.
I forgot to mention. I have three Toyota forerunners in my family, all with the 2.7 L four-cylinder that you have maligned in your video, in between those three vehicles we are over 1,000,000 miles starting with our 1999 four runner four cylinder 2 Wheel Dr. C by my father that I bought for him, Used, 10 years ago.
I agree with most of what you spoke of in your video. However, I love my 2019 Tacoma 4X4 SR! Being 61 years old, my driving style is slow, and I don't pull anything. So, this truck "fits" my lifestyle. I'm now retired and use my truck to haul my fishing gear to the river and bring home groceries and hauls from yard sales. Honestly, it really depends on what you will use the truck for. I bought mine brand new in Jan 2029 and paid $26,000.00 even. I wrote the check at the dealership. Now, 3 years and 8 months later, I only have 7,400 miles on it, remember I'm retired. However, when I recently took it to my local Toyota dealership for an oil and filter change, the assistant manager offered me $31,000.00 to buy my truck. He claimed he could not get enough Tacoma's in stock to sell, so he was offering great buys to owners. Crazy, when you think about it.
@@djkenny1202 No, mine is the Access Cab version. It does have 2 rear "suicide" doors that I think are really cool and useful. Also, mine does not have any rear seats, it is designed for storage. This suits me fine, because it is just my Wife and me. I place groceries and/or fishing supplies in this area.
@@rockbay79 the extra doors may add $1500? Just considering for us and 2 kids. I’m not spending 28k or more on a vehicle. I recall these selling for $25k with 4 doors 2-3 years ago, a few on you tube. I take 2029 is a Typo?
I like to drive my vehicles till the wheels fall off, looking at this engine, I’d be happy to maintain it. Lots of room, easy to work on. Doesn’t have direct injection or turbo, and has an iron block.
we have 2 a 20004x4 and 2012 4x4 both 2.7 manual great trucks bought the 2000 new.I coild sell either one before nightfall.I did drive a 2.7 4x4 auto 5 speed rocks
After driving a 2011 prerunner with a 2.7 and automatic tranny I can tell you that After five years I'm still amazed at the feel of this setup! I'm on flat terrain and don't pull anything and the engine has plenty of torque to get on the freeway and do all I have to do with the truck ! Really smooth runner !
I’m wondering if the reason it feels more powerful on the second generation is because it’s utilizing the 5-speed transmission as opposed to the six in the third gen.
It's not a bedliner....that's the actual bed. While the motor isn't "refined"-- I guess if you want refined, buy a car not a truck, but that 4 banger is probably the most reliable motor on the market right now. I bought mine to simply be a gear hauler for my MTB and snowboard gear. It gets me to the mountains rain, shine, snow, sleet, natural disaster--every f-cking time. My snowboard buddies always ride with me when their "refined" trucks are in the shop----which is often. I've hauled 2200 lbs of rock in mine, no problems. It didn't stop so well...but it moved along just fine at that weight. I've yanked a number of full sized trucks out of mud and snow with my little 4 banger in 4lo. Love my 4 banger!. That shimmy is probably just an out of balance tire, which isn't Toyota's fault.
I own a Tacoma with the 3.4, my brother has the 2.7. I’ll be honest, unless you’re towing stuff, I didn’t notice a huge difference other than sound. They’re both slow as hell.
I have an 04 with a 3.4 as well . My next truck will hopefully be a gently used 2.7. As stated, Toyotas are slow but they go the distance. My truck is a daily driver and I rarely haul so the the v6 is just over kill for my needs.
@@electronpusher604 you will notice some in the big hills and Mountains.. just push the etc button and it will hold the gears longer . I think the 2.7 is better then the 3.5 v6 What’s the Atkinson cycle and direct injection .. I got my truck for long term and overall cheaper payment and cost of Ownership compared to the TRD off-road TRD sport. Sure they are nice .. but for me the 2.7 is plenty.. can tow up to 3500 no issues.. it will not be fast at all but it will do it just fine .. just know you are not going to win any races at the stop lights .. but if you want a Reliable truck from point a to point B with a reasonable cost . The 2.7 is plenty
I have a 2016 crewcab tacoma SR5 rwd , automatic transmission ,I have drive from Atlanta Ga to Mexico city and drive around Mexico where roads have long climbs and I use the manual transmission setup to climb with the truck loaded, this helps the engine operate on high rpm and you can manage the shifting , this helps a lot giving the engine the extra help from the tranny keeping a good pace
Scotty i bought one this yr it’s a 2021 has 21000 mile on it it’s a 2.7 litter engine just because i’ve watching you it just a garden truck and drive around ❤❤❤
Good review. I have the 2017 2.7 AT 4x2 and most of your comments about the power are reasonable however, I really feel the AT is the issue and not the engine. It's geared wildly for economy and the 6 speed is always up shifting needlessly and hunting for gears. A standard shift would have been a better fit if there was such a thing. Since i couldn't get a manual, I drive my AT in manual shift mode around town in 4th gear and pop it into 5th when over 45MPH. 6th gear is useless unless your flat out on the highway. All that said this has been a solid truck and I have done some reasonably heavy hauling and trailering with this truck. If your mindful of the transmission and shift it manually it will do a lot of work far beyond what your giving it credit for and at the end of the day it will not fail. They won't win races but the 2.7 is a very tough midsized truck.
If you’re in 4th gear around town.. isn’t that revving pretty high? I’m wondering if this puts more stress on the motor.. causing it to age or create possible issues that the V6’s won’t see. Just a thought.
@@anthonygiordano3991 Valid point. I don't drive it hard at all. The RPMs are not that high. I said 45MH in my original post. Prob more like 40 and I will slip it into 5th. I rather rev it a higher than have the AT mindlessly shifting back and forth as I worry more about the AT than the engine. My oil changes are frequent too. Again you make a valid point but it's not as bad as it sounds.
I agree 100% with all the critical statements you made about the lack of power, etc. I still chose to buy a ‘22 version of this truck. The V6 was 8K more expensive. I don’t ride off-road, just to work and home. Simple engine will hopefully lead to little or no mechanical issues.
I ended up getting the 3.5 because this truck is just so darn heavy I always felt like it strains the poor 2.7. I believe if they had offered the 2.7 stick, it would be much better.
Glad to know that 2TR FE engine is reliable. It's sister is 1TR FE engine vith VVT-i that is used in my Toyota Innova here in the Philippines. They have the same parts except some additional features and displacement
That "shimmy" is 0% "Toyota" related and 100% "thrown wheel weight" related. Enterprise would surely tend to that if any user noted the problem on return. Also, there's probably an ECT button on the dashboard just in front of the shifter. Toyota intended it for assistance on hilly terrain but it's perfectly legit to use anytime. It puts the torque converter into play on acceleration and the vehicle will feel more like a car at the pedal. It's never going to be "fast" but I find it more pleasing in urban traffic, both for me and for the drivers around me who expect led-footed response at every interaction. As for "unrefined", engineering is a compromise between fantasy and entropy... I chose the 1/2MM mile option and I love my ponderous little champ more every day. It sits pretty next to my wife's "youthful" RAV4 Limited V6 with 165K miles.
The Tacoma 4 cyl is the most durable engine on the market right now, but you won't be driving the truck long distances because it has such a jolting, jarring, fatiguing ride. The engine is quiet, but a huge amount of fatiguing exhaust noise gets into the cabin. One final deal breaker is that, like the V6, the Tacoma 4 cyl has retarded ignition timing so you have to mash the gas pedal to get a decent amount of acceleration.
Early 3rd gen Tacoma 2.7s 2016 and 17 SR trims got a manual. Most likely reason they killed it off in 18 was lack of sales or dealerships not ordering them.
The "grumbly sound" of the 2.7 is the exhaust. If the cab back panel is externally sound insulated using a cotton or fiberglass blanket placed inbetween the truck bed and the cab, the exhaust sound from the drivers seat becomes almost inaudible and the cab becomes almost Lexus-like silent even when accelerating. Then the owner comes to like the 2.7 because what little noise it makes sounds smooth and refined.
Iv got the 2017 2.7 manual 4x4 and have no regrets. Not the most refined truck, technology wise, but it’s everything a little truck is suppose to be. And will last forever.
Also, to me personally, the simpler the better. My truck is the epitome of simplicity and reliability. It doesn’t get much better. Not a lot of stuff that can break and easy to work on. Don’t have to spend forever trying to diagnose an issue and don’t have to tear half the engine bay apart to make a simple repair.
I had a '16 Access Cab SR5 2WD 2.7 and it was only 3400lbs. What it needed was to be regeared, after I put 4.88 in rear it actually hauled azz off the line. Towing was fine cuz the motor can handle. Trying to maintain 75mph in wind or hills was the problem. Long cross country trips were miserable in it, forget trying to hold 80mph. The trans is programmed to shift early for the 3.5L with over 100 more hp and torque. I hauled dirt bikes to desert from SoCal over the mnts every weekend, just put in S so it locks out 5th and 6th gear and ring it out it gets there!
@@palebeachbum I replaced the drive shaft carrier bearings at 120,000. Cost was a couple of hundred. I had a shop do it. I replaced the catalytic converter and sensors at 180,000 cost was 600. I did the work myself. I replaced the coolant bypass pipe somewhere after 200,000 cost was 30 dollars. I did the work myself. Replaced fuel injectors at 260,000 cost was a couple of hundred. I did the work myself. Had the clutch replaced at 270,000 cost was 1,000. Had a shop do the work. Replaced the brake rotors at 280,000 cost was a couple of hundred. Did the work myself.
I have a 2000 tacoma 2.7 motor and five speed manual trans. Ive got 335000 miles. Still have original clutch and rear brakes. I keep the oil changed regularly. Still purs like a kitten. Dosent smoke or leak oil. Have replaced oxygen sensors twice. Thats been the biggest expense of the truck so far. Fingers crossed!!!!
I doubt the shimmy in the steering wheel has anything to do with the engine. The people who own this engine know what a gem it is. It will get you from point A to point B just fine. Few mechanics have ever had this engine open for a lower block rebuild. At most they had to replace the water pump and maybe do a valve grind on high mileage trucks.
"They don't want you to buy it" he says. Some guys just don't get it. My 07 2.7 has 228,000mi. and still runs strong. I love that engine. Get the manual tranny and it can be fun and engaging to drive. But,sticking them in the double cab versions? Not sure that's the best idea.
I'm picking up a 2nd gen regular cab 4x4 auto. I am going into this purchase strictly for reliability of the 2.7. The regular cab though is right up there though for a reason :).
My lil taco is the base sr model (access cab), and I have 135000 miles yet I do not experience the shimmy at 65mph. I'm fine with the lack of power, in fact, I love this little taco.
As someone who drives slow anyway, doesn’t haul anything bigger than a lawnmower, and doesn’t drive very far at all in my truck, this seems perfect. After my 04 V8 4Runner wears out, this will probably be what I end up getting.
2:29 The 4 banger can tow plenty but not from stock. My neighbor has one he tows over 4K pounds with and he re geared the axles to 4.56 or something. Manual transmission, and it doesn’t complain at ALL. Toyota geared these trucks for unladen and maximum mpg
I moved from a large V8 Silverado to the smaller I4. I bought it due to the reliablity as I had two 5.3L V8 engines blow up on me. It cant tow heavy loads, but it can do everything else fine. Heavy meaning dump trailer full of dirt or skidsteers
Thank you for specifying “heavy”. I feel like a lot of truck reviewers idea of “heavy” and my idea of “heavy” could be wildly different, and they never seem to give examples…
The GM 5.3L is infamously problematic. The 2.5L in the Colorado would have been a better option. 200hp and they are going 200k miles relatively trouble-free. Better 6-spd automatic too than Tacoma.
Hi All I have a 2000 sr5 with 2.7 with the 5 speed. I turbocharged it. What a truck it's got 165k, tows by boat just fine. Life in the 49th state can be very demanding.
Different strokes for different folks. If you do a lot of city driving, like a lot of us of stop and go from light to light, do you really need a 300HP engine? Someone who needs a truck for light hauling and doesn't need their ego stroked for a V6, it's a great vehicle IMO. I drive the V6 btw
I have owned three trucks with this engine and it is bullet proof. As far as this video, not really crazy about it. Not sure if this guy even understands trucks or really knows what he is talking about, This engine is no where as bad as he makes it seem. The first mistake was using a rental vehicle for a test. Second the main purpose of the 2.7L engine is reliability and low cost, One of the biggest draws for this engine is it has a timing chain, not a timing belt. If well taken care of, this engine will get you to 400K miles with no major issues. Will it win drag races, no, will it out run V6 engines in trucks of similiar size, no, but will it outlast other engines, sure will. I just bought a 4 door SR Tacoma today, a new 2022 truck with this engine, so this is bascially going to be my fourth truck with the 2.7L engine in the family. I bought the truck for my son as a gift to him. I bought his wife a new 2022 4Runner SR5 about 9 months ago and now they have two new Toyotas that will last them 10 years, no car notes. All he needs it for is getting around town, hauling yard supplies and a safe vehicle for our 1 year old grandson. To get into a 3.5L V6 Tacoma at todays stupid prices, it was going to cost about 5-8K more. The SR I bought for him has the TSS package and all the things he needs.
Purchased a '20 2.7 used. It will be used as my son's 1st truck. drives very much like the old 22R engines (I had an '86 4X4). Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. I'd rather have a 16-year old driving the 2.7 than a Hemi.
I live around the mountain area, there are a lot of hills to climb so this is not for me even though it's the most reliable engine, I know because I had a 1997 4runner with 2.7 4-cylinders and manual shift, it was quite a workout for the engine to climb the steep hills, super reliable engine though only oil change and nothing else, after 161k the trans oil was still brand new, said my mechanic, too bad I crashed it a few thousand miles later during an icy winter storm.
The 2.7L 2TRFE coupled with the 5 speed manual four wheel drive is likely the best Tacoma out there....more reliable than the 6 cylinder, smoother than the cylinder, easier to supercharge than the six cylinder. Per my owners manual mine is rated to tow 5000 pounds as it has the frame mounted tow receiver.
Another reviewer who only sees horse power and torque, there is far more to this engine and truck that reviewers just don't understand and never will. I own a 2.7 Tacoma and it is a very good truck.
my 2014 is slow yes, put a flow fx on it and it sound really good, it’s a 2wd and i get though jeep trails just find. Best truck for anyone who care about thrashing it and not having any repercussions.
I have a 00’ SR5 Prerunner 3.4 V6 with some off-road tires on it and it has 300k miles on it. I love this truck sooo much. I’ve raced the new tacomas and I’ve beat them. The only one that gave me an issue is the 2nd gen tacoma. The style of this truck is so amazing. It already comes lifted and all that.
This guy with the channel does not know anything about Toyota. Toyota goes out of their way to keep this legendary 2TR-FE 4 cylinder engine available because it's so extremely reliable and proven. It's been around for 25 years and many mechanics have never seen the inside of one because they never fail. Toyota is known for keeping proven technology in the production because it's been perfected. I'll take this 2.7 2TR-FE over any V6 because I like my trucks and cars to last.
The Car Care Nut said the 2.7 engine is bullet proof more so than the 3.5 in the 3rd Gen he said when working at Toyota in the service department he never saw a 2.7 Tacoma come in for major engine problems
This engine went out not with a bang but a whimper. NOBODY talked how the most reliable engine for 30 years was gone, EVERYONE talked about the death of the V6. This engine was the real loss, the last naturally aspirated iron block I4 you could buy in the US, the oldest Toyota engine gone.
My 2022 SR5 2.7L drives just fine...super smooth, good power....actually a lot more than I expected if you get on the gas, and excellent gas mileage. I noticed at the beginning of the video that the front wheel is missing the center spinner. Probably took a hard hit on a curve. Thus the shimmy. This guy is probably driving a damaged vehicle.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 I take it on dirt roads very regularly and it does great, on one road is a very steep hill and loose gravel and my 2wd tundra gets stuck on it about 2/3 of the time, but my Tacoma in 4x4 has yet to get stuck. Haven't tried it in snow tho I live in Georgia lol
Yeah i'll keep the 3.5l in my 2023 tacoma. Its basically bulletproof by this point. That 2.7l is anemic. My friend would be flooring his just to merge with traffic on the interstate. Pulling a loaded double axle 6x12 uhaul trailer was no issue at all with my v6.
👍 gave me flashbacks of the 1980's! Was a great place to grow up in the 1975-1992!- Orange, Anaheim, Santa Ana, Fountain Valley, Costa Mesa, Garden Grove...
As a toyota mechanic, i can tell you full stop the 2.7 is by far the most reliable and durable engine money can buy end of story. We’ve only ever changed the oil in those. We’ve never seen any issues out of that engine. It’s unreal.
Toyota Mechanic from Australia here. We have 2.7 engines in our HiLuxes ... and I 100% confirm Justin's statement. Bulletproof engines, meanwhile 2.8 diesels are a constant pain in the butt.
4.0 was just as bulletproof and the 3.5’s have been doing great so far. 2.7 doesn’t have enough muscle to move this truck nicely and they end up using more fuel than the 3.5.
@@KubanKevin Wrong. They get better mpg than the 6 cylinder
@@KubanKevin I believe you. I have a standard cab Tacoma 2.7 and a 5 speed manual transmission and I get about 24. And I drive about 85. It will get a couple of mpg better if I drive 65 or 70
The 2.5 liter Nissan frontier can do it too
Once you accept the 2.7 for the durable perfection it is, you won’t disappointed in what it’s not.
Those engines can run well pass 300k without any major repairs needed.
Yes sir, love mine. 140k and counting. Nothing but oil and plugs so far
@@codymoreland4496 Have an automatic? Looking for info on possible shifting issues on the 2016.
@mikeh.9954 I do have an automatic. But haven't had any shifting issues. Only thing I've done to the transmission is a fluid change a while back
@@codymoreland4496 I owned a 2002 Taco and drove it to 230,000.
We are looking at a 2016 Taco with 100k miles for our son (yes, he's a brat).
2.7 is very reliable and durable. Yes it's slow but if you want a bullet proof engine without direct injection garbage that can last 500,000 with normal maintenance. The engine is also easy to work on the rare chance it needs repairs. If you don't like this engine than be happy it will be discontinued soon. Any Mechanic would love to own this engine.
Looking to put one in an 86
Every person who does any kind of work like landscaper, painter, handy man, construction worker etc would line up 25 deep to buy this from you.
This engine is being discontinued? 😓
Also it has s timing chain no belt win win.
@@Sega_Dreams Yes, 2.7L will be discontinued, when the redesigned Tacoma comes out in 2024 or 2025.
I have the 2012 Tacoma with the 2.7, and prior I had a 1994 model just 1 year before the Tacoma took over, and it had the famous 22R motor. Over that span of time, they accumulated almost 400,000 miles, and only replaced 1 water pump, in the older model. The 2012 2.7 may be unrefined but it easily stays with traffic, gets decent mileage, and will probably outlast new trucks from some other makers. Long live the 2.7 Toyota SALUD!
Wow, we are like truck twins, I too came from a 94 to the 2.7Taco.... 2013 though, but still.
I once owned a 1987 Toyota long bed extended cab model with the 22r with a 5speed transmission. I kept it 22years and I got rid of it for my 2005 Tundra. When the reviewers emphasize how slow the 2.7 is, this would not deter me from the 2.7 because the 22r was also low on power and slow. Additionally, I drove that 22r 5 times across country with no problems. That being said, I will take buy the 2.7 because of its reliability and not be concerned over its lack of refinement and power.
If it had over 400k miles that means people liked it.
Seems like this truck gets up and moves just fine. If I lived in Texas, Florida, or Oklahoma I think a truck like this would be great. Reliability over performance wins hands down. Anyone who has had their vehicle in the shop 4 times a year knows this. "Mom & Dad, can I borrow your car again for a couple of days? My Nissan Pathfinder is in the shop again"
I really appreciate the 2.7L 4 cylinder in these trucks. They're bulletproof. The only other engine that stands up with the 2.7L 4 cylinder is the 4.0L V6 that you can find in the 2nd gen Tacoma and the current generation 4Runner.
The 1.8 Corolla engine is also right there with them. Only 3 engines I would ever own
2.7L I4 uses cast-iron block. 4.0L V6 uses aluminum block. The proper comparison is the 3.0L I6 JZ cast-iron engine that was previously found in Toyota Supra, Lexus IS300, and Lexus GS300, but it was discontinued in 2005 in last vehicle.
This is the engine Toyotas use around the world
Also the 4.7l v8 in the 4th gen 4Runner and landcruiser and Sequoias Tundras and I think you could have got it in the GX as well
This truck is the underdog that will outlive all the other trucks, the only truck that makes economic sense nowadays, and big enough for most every day tasks
I had a 2013 2.7 4x4 standard trans. I used it to pull my tractor which was about 6000 pounds with trailer. It absolutely did fine. It handled better then full size 3/4 I owned. Even with Ac cranked. Yes it takes longer on hills. The 4cyl just works and pulls fine.
I pulled a car trailer with 2 side by sides on it (about 5k lbs total) with my 2.7 double cab and it was fine. Definitely needed trailer brakes but the trans didn't even get hot on hilly backroads and I dogged the hell out of it.
I just got a 2007 2.7 4x4 standard trans. Yes the 2.7 pulls fine up hills on my weekday commute. This drivetrain was very hard to find. It was 146k miles, but from what I've heard that's not a lot for any Toyota engine, especially this one.
You had a 3/4 ton truck and you chose your taco to pull 6K lbs?
I have a 2006 2.7 5speed manual with 234k now and still going strong. I've pulled my trailer plenty times with over 5k pounds on it with the bed loaded down with lumber. Temperature never moved above normal and over the Mississippi river bridge ! I love my 2.7
@@Stelcom66 Yessir! I purchased new in 2006 2.7 5speed and has 234k miles on it. My 5speed has no problem coming onto the interstate hitting 65 or 70 . Still has original clutch and water pump, Alternator 😊😊
Toyota if you're in the comments reading. Please keep making these 4 cyl trucks. "We" the actual paying customers like these trucks.
Wish this guy did some kind of homework!!! This engine is an absolute beast!!!
“They”…Toyota…have made this engine one of the most bulletproof and reliable of all time!!! Those of us who own this beast, can vouch. Do some research, maybe?
This, so called, “review”, is “UNINSPIRING”!!!
Preach On, Brother!!! It is so frustrating to look for meaningful content, when so many of these guys just spout worthless personal opinion… with no scientific method of research and verification, related to the vehicle that they choose to review. I will definitely cross this one off my list of competent and insightful car and truck content creators. For the Toyota faithful out there, I recommend the car care nut CZcams channel, as well as Alex on autos. These are two competent reviewers who know their stuff and do their homework. Join me in an unsubscribe and unlike!!!
The 2.7 is all you need. Bought my 22 Tacoma Sr access cab black 4x4 without the jump seats, wanted that simple 4 banger before they got discontinued. Have nothig bad to say about it. Paid off. Six foot bed that actually gets use. Simple truck for this simple man......
I'm on my 2nd 4 cylinder Tacoma SR5 and can tell you that I've never had 1 issue with either one of them in over 15 years of owning them. BULLET PROOF!! They aren't race cars by any means but they will run for 100's of thousands of miles without a problem.
I once asked my grandfather why he married my grandmother. He said she was pretty but other girls were prettier. He told me he choose her because everyone wasn't chasing after her so he wouldn't have to fight over her. She was dependable and would be there for him for the rest of his natural life.
That's why you get a 2.7.
Criticizing an engine that will run for 300-500k+ miles. The 3.5L V6 has a ton of problems. The 2.7L 4cyl is bulletproof.
I think your criticism is out of ignorance.
I didn’t realize the 3.5L had that many issues. I hear the 4.0L V6 in the second generation was near bulletproof as well.
Toyota’s last longer than any other car brand out there
I have a 2018 with the 4 cylinder. I drove it for 3 years and tolerated the sluggish, lagging engine. I installed the sprint booster and now it's a screamer. Try one, you won't believe the difference. Also, it runs fine at highway speed, no shimmy. It's not a cadillac but I've made 400 mile road trips with no problem.
What's a sprint booster?
I have a 2017 SR 2.7 5 speed manual 4x4 and love it. I also added a sprint booster to mine. Won’t say it’s not sluggish on the Highway, but its not that bad. I love my truck. And I garantee it will last longer than the new 3.5 V6.
@@Stockiroc86 It's an adapter that controls the response of the throttle body shortening the delay from the time you press the pedal to the time that it actually opens up to accelerate, it's similar to a pedal commander.
@@jcova8401 - How much does one of those set you back?
Take off the sprint booster and tune it. It will amaze you how much this little engine actually has balls
I will take RELIABILTY over top end performance every day. The 2.7 is enough for a mid size truck. It's been in use since 2008 on SUV's and by far the most durable and reliable motor since the old 2.4.
I have a 2018 2.7 have an overland rack and all the goodies 2wd and i do everything with it not a bad truck it depends on how you use it and how you take care of it.
All my toyota trucks have been 4 cyl.
No issues just got them to high mileage and still ran well
I own a 2020 SR5/ access cab and put 8k on it in about a little over a year. Yes, the engine is a bit slow and underpowered but other than that i like the truck and would have purchased it again exactly as it as is. i do not need extra power as i seldom drive the highways and i haul only light stuff. Mostly i drive alone and i am not trying to impress anyone. i am confident that this truck will outlast me. I wanted the most dependable vehicle and engine i could find and that is what i believe i got. I did like your video and your point of view.
How are the transmissions in the 4 cylinder tacomas? Do they got any issues?
Are they too, assembled in Mexico…? If so, 😢 I wish USA..
My 4 cylinder carried a full size pool table without any hesitation, of course it wasn’t a long drive but it still amazed me that it actually drove flawless
I have the TSS off-road model, just flipped 30,000 Mille’s and I enjoy it. I have Pulled a boat and small trailer, and my passenger didn’t think I was pulling anything. Handles well and has great pick up. Thanks for your review. I’ve had the V6 model in the past, but for fuel economy and what I use mine for, I like the space and power my 4 cylinder has currently. Thank you.
That unrefined motor will run longer than any american motor made today.
I have decades of experience with three Toyota Trucks, and some people can't appreciate how comforting it is to know that if you simply maintain it regularly, that Toyota 4 cylinder (sr22 included) will start, run, and get you home 99.99% of the time throughout the entire ownership. It won't be the fastest, when is getting home a race?
@@scottt7400 This was my only consideration when buying a vehicle. Reliability.
@@scottt7400 You maintain yours? i just piss in the gas tank and away I go!
@@napoland9676 Like clock work, but it pays off. Anyway, good thing it's urine, and not myine, is all I got to say about that.
True
2017 2.7 owner. And yes the truck is slow but the gas mileage is great man don't haul much or off road at all so I'm very happy with my Taco
I get 23 city and 26 hwy on my 2.7. Installed the sprint booster and had it tuned using premium fuel now it gets 28 hwy.
@@ed-ou812 hey Eddie I’m picking one up tomorrow, I just want to ask how much did it cost you to do that?
@@dgrimey3744 $299
@@ed-ou812 are you happy with it do you still recommend it?
@@ed-ou812 where do I buy it?Will it void tye warranty?
I bought a new Taco with 4cyl, because I want to drive it 500K miles. I like that it doesn't have a turbo, which would be the first thing to break. It goes fast enough for me because I gave up drag racing years ago.
Let me tell you I am an owner of a 17 Tacoma 4wd with the 2.7l engine and has a 5 spd manual trans. It is the most reliable engine period. The engine is a timing chain which all timing chain engines can be loud.
Thank you for covering the base 2.7! Not all of us want the top of the line model
Thank you for watching!
Well said. Debating buying one of these.
I'm on my 2nd crew cab 4 banger Taco and you can't kill them. I've towed 5k lbs (using trailer brakes) had 1500lbs in the bed, and averaged 21-23mpg regularly. The 2.7 is detuned like crazy. Show me another 4 cylinder this big with dohc, 16 valves, direct injection and variable valve timing that only makes 160hp. Toyota detuned it on purpose, they know it'll last forever. They don't want it to compete with the V6 that costs thousands of dollars more. The 6 speed auto is the same for both engines, it just has a few less clutches in the 4 cylinder version. I drive a tractor trailer around DC and Baltimore, y'all don't know what slow is. You don't need a 400hp truck to commute to work and you don't need 400ft lbs of torque to tow your little utility trailer with your riding mower on it. My 2019 Tacoma was $20k cheaper than my 2016 Ram was and does all the same shit.
Lol the 4 banger doesn't have direct injection. The V6 does, but the 2.7 is still port injection.
2.7 has a 5 speed, not 6 speed.
@@CarDietrich - Is port injection better than direct injection? Which is better?
@@anthonygiordano3991 DI has carbon build up…I think…which is bad in the long term. You can google it.
@@eyedunno8462 the automatics are all 6 speeds since 2016 and they quit selling manual 4 cylinder Tacomas in 2018.
I've got a 2006 2WD SR5 Tacoma with a 2.7 liter engine. Yeah, not fast, not flashy, maybe uninspiring, but its a great daily driver and reliable as hell, and works great in So Cal traffic. I've never had any mechanical problems with mine over 170K miles except a water pump at 36K miles which the dealership fixed for free. 👍 As for getting on the SoCal freeway, you can always slow down and merge in behind the truck, no need to 'race it.' Only two issues I have with it are the cabin noise (you can hear the drivetrain underneath your feet, easy to fix with some aftermarket insulation), and the seats are not that comfortable if you're driving for a few hours (but I didn't buy it as a 'sofa-on-wheels'). IF it wasn't for the pandemic shortage I'd have bought a new 2WD Tacoma double cab by now, maybe the 6cyl, but a 4cyl would not be out of the question.
I own a 2007 regular cab manual with 2.7. It's probably totally different due to weight, size and manual transmission torque. 72,000 and still running strong!
They should bring back the 22re engine!
The 2TR-FE is every bit as durable. And 159 HP vs 116 HP in the 22re.
@@4af that's true. I saw another CZcams video of the man who has over 1,000,000 miles on his 2008 Tacoma 2.7
You'll get your wish in 2024. The Tacoma's will be all 2.7 L engines with turbos making more hp and torque.
I've got a '22 SR5 Access Cab 2.7L 4x4 on order and can't wait. Hauling a few bags of mulch or fertilizer a few times a year is all I need one for. This will get the job done.
Which transmission comes with it?
I have a 15 4 speed it doesn’t do all the gear hunting I’m hearing about everyone talking about on the 6 speed.
Yeah I’m wondering too? How’s the AT on the 2022 2.7L?
This guy does not like the 4 cylinder tacoma but you can bet it will probably outlast anything he would recommend....
Own this truck and the v6 both engines very good The 4 cylinder has a cast iron block and port injection and is a long life engine my tacoma has a standard cab and seat delete package also 4 wheel drive and I am very happy with it double cab does add more weight than standard cab
I’m not sure why people think this should perform like a Porsche, it’s not a sports car it’s a little truck. Toyota does care about the engine they put in this truck, they just didn’t care about speed. This engine is about low end torque and fuel efficiency from the era when Trucks had big V-8’s and got 15 miles a gallon. This engine is from an older era, and they kept this engine in the tacoma for reliability. Toyota does care, they care about reliability.
There is a 2.7 tacoma on youtube that has 1.5 million miles. He uses it to deliver cancer medicine. I think it went almost a million until the head gasket blew, and the trans started to have problems at 1.2 million. I own 4 of these trucks with the 2.7 and they will run forever without major repairs. Just change the oil every 5K and use the best quality synthetic 0-w20 you can find.
There's a lady who put 1 millions miles on a Hyundai Elantra using it for parts delivery. Hyundai awarded her a new car. Continuous operation and highway travel always prolong vehicle life regardless of what it is.
@@palebeachbum I also read someone put 1 million miles on a Honda CR-V lately. There have been many cars that can do this, but most do not have original transmission as they seem not to last as long as the engines. Manual trans is probably more durable over time than autos
@@spe808 if it's highway travel, that puts the least wear and tear on a transmission since there a lot less shifting going on. It's also easiest on the engine cruising steadily. That's why highway driven cars tent to last much longer than city commuters.
It seems to accelerate just fine! Sounds good too. Since you are reviewing vehicles I’m surprised how non-mechanical you are. The shimmy is not anything to do with worn out steering, it is an unbalanced or damaged wheel or tire. It’s surprising you start knocking the vehicles quality because of what’s likely a simple tire balance costing from free to $20
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Everybody beats the crap out of rentals (myself included). A shimmy is not a 'feature' to the truck, but a bug with the one he is driving at the moment. Really weird how anybody would think otherwise.
I own a 2017 Tacoma 2.7 2wd access cab long bed and I love it. It is definitely not the fastest but it does the job and is reliable.
I forgot to mention. I have three Toyota forerunners in my family, all with the 2.7 L four-cylinder that you have maligned in your video, in between those three vehicles we are over 1,000,000 miles starting with our 1999 four runner four cylinder 2 Wheel Dr. C by my father that I bought for him, Used, 10 years ago.
I agree with most of what you spoke of in your video. However, I love my 2019 Tacoma 4X4 SR! Being 61 years old, my driving style is slow, and I don't pull anything. So, this truck "fits" my lifestyle. I'm now retired and use my truck to haul my fishing gear to the river and bring home groceries and hauls from yard sales. Honestly, it really depends on what you will use the truck for. I bought mine brand new in Jan 2029 and paid $26,000.00 even. I wrote the check at the dealership. Now, 3 years and 8 months later, I only have 7,400 miles on it, remember I'm retired. However, when I recently took it to my local Toyota dealership for an oil and filter change, the assistant manager offered me $31,000.00 to buy my truck. He claimed he could not get enough Tacoma's in stock to sell, so he was offering great buys to owners. Crazy, when you think about it.
Was it a 4 door SR?
@@djkenny1202 No, mine is the Access Cab version. It does have 2 rear "suicide" doors that I think are really cool and useful. Also, mine does not have any rear seats, it is designed for storage. This suits me fine, because it is just my Wife and me. I place groceries and/or fishing supplies in this area.
@@rockbay79 the extra doors may add $1500? Just considering for us and 2 kids. I’m not spending 28k or more on a vehicle. I recall these selling for $25k with 4 doors 2-3 years ago, a few on you tube. I take 2029 is a Typo?
Oh hell it ain’t near as bad as this guy makes it out to be. If I wanted fast I would’ve bought a Corvette.
I hear ya, he doesn’t know what the part of the market that loves these little trucks.
This is a great truck especially now with the gas thru the roof
We own a Corvette and I’m considering getting the 2.7 Tacoma to replace my V-6 Tacoma 4x4
2.7 is a legendary motor.. put lce header new exhaust.. new air flow.. its amazing truck
My 1987 Toyota truck had the 22r 2.4 liter 102hp engine and I kept it 22 years with just a carburetor issue. It was a great truck.
I like to drive my vehicles till the wheels fall off, looking at this engine, I’d be happy to maintain it. Lots of room, easy to work on. Doesn’t have direct injection or turbo, and has an iron block.
That's true, this engine will probably outlast all of us if you take care of it properly.
uncle has that engine in his sr5 construction truck with 300k on it still going strong
i thought they did have DI???
we have 2 a 20004x4 and 2012 4x4 both 2.7 manual great trucks bought the 2000 new.I coild sell either one before nightfall.I did drive a 2.7 4x4 auto 5 speed rocks
Also has a transmission oil dipstick where you can easily change the transmission fluid
After driving a 2011 prerunner with a 2.7 and automatic tranny I can tell you that After five years I'm still amazed at the feel of this setup! I'm on flat terrain and don't pull anything and the engine has plenty of torque to get on the freeway and do all I have to do with the truck ! Really smooth runner !
I’m wondering if the reason it feels more powerful on the second generation is because it’s utilizing the 5-speed transmission as opposed to the six in the third gen.
@@anthonygiordano3991also because the previous gen is lighter
It's not a bedliner....that's the actual bed. While the motor isn't "refined"-- I guess if you want refined, buy a car not a truck, but that 4 banger is probably the most reliable motor on the market right now. I bought mine to simply be a gear hauler for my MTB and snowboard gear. It gets me to the mountains rain, shine, snow, sleet, natural disaster--every f-cking time. My snowboard buddies always ride with me when their "refined" trucks are in the shop----which is often. I've hauled 2200 lbs of rock in mine, no problems. It didn't stop so well...but it moved along just fine at that weight. I've yanked a number of full sized trucks out of mud and snow with my little 4 banger in 4lo. Love my 4 banger!. That shimmy is probably just an out of balance tire, which isn't Toyota's fault.
Heck yeah
Hell yes!!
I own a Tacoma with the 3.4, my brother has the 2.7. I’ll be honest, unless you’re towing stuff, I didn’t notice a huge difference other than sound. They’re both slow as hell.
3.5. You’re right, they are both slow on acceleration.
@@ubroberts5541 negative, 3.4. Mine is an 04.
I have an 04 with a 3.4 as well . My next truck will hopefully be a gently used 2.7. As stated, Toyotas are slow but they go the distance. My truck is a daily driver and I rarely haul so the the v6 is just over kill for my needs.
On the 3rd gen the difference is very significant
I have a 3.4 tacoma and the 3.4 is way faster than 2.7
I didn’t want the 6 got the 2.7 4x4 extended cab. 3500 lb towing is plenty.
Those are almost impossible to find where I am. I just put deposit on a 2.7 2wd extended cab and it took weeks to find.
@@electronpusher604 I have a 2022 sr 2.7 4c4 access cab love it ..
@@justinl8455 I just put a deposit on the same truck but 2wd. Do you ever have problems going up hills/mountains with the small engine?
@@electronpusher604 you will notice some in the big hills and Mountains.. just push the etc button and it will hold the gears longer . I think the 2.7 is better then the 3.5 v6 What’s the Atkinson cycle and direct injection .. I got my truck for long term and overall cheaper payment and cost of Ownership compared to the TRD off-road TRD sport. Sure they are nice .. but for me the 2.7 is plenty.. can tow up to 3500 no issues.. it will not be fast at all but it will do it just fine .. just know you are not going to win any races at the stop lights .. but if you want a Reliable truck from point a to point B with a reasonable cost . The 2.7 is plenty
@@justinl8455 I feel the same way. Thanks. Can't wait for my new truck!
I have a 2016 crewcab tacoma SR5 rwd , automatic transmission ,I have drive from Atlanta Ga to Mexico city and drive around Mexico where roads have long climbs and I use the manual transmission setup to climb with the truck loaded, this helps the engine operate on high rpm and you can manage the shifting , this helps a lot giving the engine the extra help from the tranny keeping a good pace
Scotty i bought one this yr it’s a 2021 has 21000 mile on it it’s a 2.7 litter engine just because i’ve watching you it just a garden truck and drive around ❤❤❤
I have a 2007 and a 2021 Tacoma with the 2.7. I love them both. So reliable. 227k on my 07. Don't sleep on these trucks. They don't break down.
Is there a lot of cabin noise like one of the comments suggests?
@@brandonburnie7067
Honestly, yes there is. In both models. Might wanna turn the music up lol
Good review. I have the 2017 2.7 AT 4x2 and most of your comments about the power are reasonable however, I really feel the AT is the issue and not the engine. It's geared wildly for economy and the 6 speed is always up shifting needlessly and hunting for gears. A standard shift would have been a better fit if there was such a thing. Since i couldn't get a manual, I drive my AT in manual shift mode around town in 4th gear and pop it into 5th when over 45MPH. 6th gear is useless unless your flat out on the highway. All that said this has been a solid truck and I have done some reasonably heavy hauling and trailering with this truck. If your mindful of the transmission and shift it manually it will do a lot of work far beyond what your giving it credit for and at the end of the day it will not fail. They won't win races but the 2.7 is a very tough midsized truck.
Get a tune it makes a huge difference.
@@ed-ou812 what ? Really ?
If you’re in 4th gear around town.. isn’t that revving pretty high? I’m wondering if this puts more stress on the motor.. causing it to age or create possible issues that the V6’s won’t see. Just a thought.
@@anthonygiordano3991 Valid point. I don't drive it hard at all. The RPMs are not that high. I said 45MH in my original post. Prob more like 40 and I will slip it into 5th. I rather rev it a higher than have the AT mindlessly shifting back and forth as I worry more about the AT than the engine. My oil changes are frequent too. Again you make a valid point but it's not as bad as it sounds.
@@johnd7215 - Everyone makes the 4 cylinder seem so bad.. I almost can’t believe it. I’m going to go test drive one today and see for myself.
2015 Tacoma 2.7 7 year's and 110,000 + miles runs like a top .👍
I have the extended cab 4 cilinder full loaded with drywall is slow but it works for 6 months none stop
I work with a guy who bought a Tacoma the old style. Bought it new had 280.000 miles haven't had one mechanical problem at all.
I agree 100% with all the critical statements you made about the lack of power, etc. I still chose to buy a ‘22 version of this truck. The V6 was 8K more expensive. I don’t ride off-road, just to work and home. Simple engine will hopefully lead to little or no mechanical issues.
I ended up getting the 3.5 because this truck is just so darn heavy I always felt like it strains the poor 2.7. I believe if they had offered the 2.7 stick, it would be much better.
I got this 2.7 l and I have no regrets
I bought this truck to do light duty work and save me money on gas, fixing it, maintenance. I really like it. Engine is not fast but enough.
Glad to know that 2TR FE engine is reliable. It's sister is 1TR FE engine vith VVT-i that is used in my Toyota Innova here in the Philippines. They have the same parts except some additional features and displacement
Proud 4WD 2016 2.7 5spd owner here 🤙🤙
If you own a 2.7 engine tune it. More power and acceleration actually makes it pretty fun to drive. Youd be surprised how much balls it actually has.
That "shimmy" is 0% "Toyota" related and 100% "thrown wheel weight" related. Enterprise would surely tend to that if any user noted the problem on return. Also, there's probably an ECT button on the dashboard just in front of the shifter. Toyota intended it for assistance on hilly terrain but it's perfectly legit to use anytime. It puts the torque converter into play on acceleration and the vehicle will feel more like a car at the pedal. It's never going to be "fast" but I find it more pleasing in urban traffic, both for me and for the drivers around me who expect led-footed response at every interaction. As for "unrefined", engineering is a compromise between fantasy and entropy... I chose the 1/2MM mile option and I love my ponderous little champ more every day. It sits pretty next to my wife's "youthful" RAV4 Limited V6 with 165K miles.
The Tacoma 4 cyl is the most durable engine on the market right now, but you won't be driving the truck long distances because it has such a jolting, jarring, fatiguing ride. The engine is quiet, but a huge amount of fatiguing exhaust noise gets into the cabin. One final deal breaker is that, like the V6, the Tacoma 4 cyl has retarded ignition timing so you have to mash the gas pedal to get a decent amount of acceleration.
That's because of the programming of the transmission, apparently a sprint booster helps
It may be a slow and sluggish truck but this damn truck will last until the end of time..
Early 3rd gen Tacoma 2.7s 2016 and 17 SR trims got a manual. Most likely reason they killed it off in 18 was lack of sales or dealerships not ordering them.
That vibration is probably a wheel weight that flew off at some point probably from a pot hole
The "grumbly sound" of the 2.7 is the exhaust. If the cab back panel is externally sound insulated using a cotton or fiberglass blanket placed inbetween the truck bed and the cab, the exhaust sound from the drivers seat becomes almost inaudible and the cab becomes almost Lexus-like silent even when accelerating. Then the owner comes to like the 2.7 because what little noise it makes sounds smooth and refined.
2016 4cyl manual 4x4 180,000 miles and going strong
Iv got the 2017 2.7 manual 4x4 and have no regrets. Not the most refined truck, technology wise, but it’s everything a little truck is suppose to be. And will last forever.
Also, to me personally, the simpler the better. My truck is the epitome of simplicity and reliability. It doesn’t get much better. Not a lot of stuff that can break and easy to work on. Don’t have to spend forever trying to diagnose an issue and don’t have to tear half the engine bay apart to make a simple repair.
1988 Toyota Truck, manuel, still going strong!👍
Reliable pickup
I had a '16 Access Cab SR5 2WD 2.7 and it was only 3400lbs. What it needed was to be regeared, after I put 4.88 in rear it actually hauled azz off the line. Towing was fine cuz the motor can handle. Trying to maintain 75mph in wind or hills was the problem. Long cross country trips were miserable in it, forget trying to hold 80mph. The trans is programmed to shift early for the 3.5L with over 100 more hp and torque. I hauled dirt bikes to desert from SoCal over the mnts every weekend, just put in S so it locks out 5th and 6th gear and ring it out it gets there!
I’ve had previous gens with the 3.4 and 2.7. I’d take the 2.7 all day. The only caveat is it REALLY needs to be a manual.
7:15 you sure about that?
Mine does not shimmy . It does riding like a tank though. Probably the best vehicle I’ve ever bought hands down.
I'm going on 300,000 miles with my 07 with a 5 speed manual. By far the most reliable engine Toyota makes..... I won't buy anything else.
What kind of repairs has it needed and about how much has it cost to repair?
@@palebeachbum I replaced the drive shaft carrier bearings at 120,000. Cost was a couple of hundred. I had a shop do it. I replaced the catalytic converter and sensors at 180,000 cost was 600. I did the work myself. I replaced the coolant bypass pipe somewhere after 200,000 cost was 30 dollars. I did the work myself. Replaced fuel injectors at 260,000 cost was a couple of hundred. I did the work myself. Had the clutch replaced at 270,000 cost was 1,000. Had a shop do the work. Replaced the brake rotors at 280,000 cost was a couple of hundred. Did the work myself.
@@christopherhoughton1418 - Did you learn to do all that yourself and tackle it or are you already mechanically inclined?
@@anthonygiordano3991 I had a little mechanical experience but nothing major. I just did as much research as possible before I took any job on.
I have a 2000 tacoma 2.7 motor and five speed manual trans. Ive got 335000 miles. Still have original clutch and rear brakes. I keep the oil changed regularly. Still purs like a kitten. Dosent smoke or leak oil. Have replaced oxygen sensors twice. Thats been the biggest expense of the truck so far. Fingers crossed!!!!
I doubt the shimmy in the steering wheel has anything to do with the engine. The people who own this engine know what a gem it is. It will get you from point A to point B just fine. Few mechanics have ever had this engine open for a lower block rebuild. At most they had to replace the water pump and maybe do a valve grind on high mileage trucks.
"They don't want you to buy it" he says. Some guys just don't get it. My 07 2.7 has 228,000mi. and still runs strong. I love that engine. Get the manual tranny and it can be fun and engaging to drive. But,sticking them in the double cab versions? Not sure that's the best idea.
From all (which are several) the people who actually owns a 2.7 (4 cyl) Tacoma "plain jane" …..they love them, and never have any complains!
I'm picking up a 2nd gen regular cab 4x4 auto. I am going into this purchase strictly for reliability of the 2.7. The regular cab though is right up there though for a reason :).
I bet these will last a long time though. That's all I care about. How long can my Toyota last if I maintain it well is all I care about.
I've got 234k on my 2006 2.7 that I purchased new. It's never been in the shop. I change my oil every 3500 miles and it just keeps going..Love it😁
The shimmy may be caused by a dented wheel or damaged tire.
Great there is no 2.7 i4 review. Thank you.
You are welcome!
I've only got 6,000.miles.on my 2019 4cyl access cab.sr5 tacoma. It is very comfortable knowing that it will outlive me...
My lil taco is the base sr model (access cab), and I have 135000 miles yet I do not experience the shimmy at 65mph. I'm fine with the lack of power, in fact, I love this little taco.
As someone who drives slow anyway, doesn’t haul anything bigger than a lawnmower, and doesn’t drive very far at all in my truck, this seems perfect. After my 04 V8 4Runner wears out, this will probably be what I end up getting.
2:29
The 4 banger can tow plenty but not from stock. My neighbor has one he tows over 4K pounds with and he re geared the axles to 4.56 or something. Manual transmission, and it doesn’t complain at ALL. Toyota geared these trucks for unladen and maximum mpg
I moved from a large V8 Silverado to the smaller I4. I bought it due to the reliablity as I had two 5.3L V8 engines blow up on me. It cant tow heavy loads, but it can do everything else fine. Heavy meaning dump trailer full of dirt or skidsteers
which trucks? do you have a Manuel?
@@dietsch4633 2014 base Tacoma i4 4x4
Thank you for specifying “heavy”. I feel like a lot of truck reviewers idea of “heavy” and my idea of “heavy” could be wildly different, and they never seem to give examples…
The GM 5.3L is infamously problematic. The 2.5L in the Colorado would have been a better option. 200hp and they are going 200k miles relatively trouble-free. Better 6-spd automatic too than Tacoma.
I like this review. Best one I've seen on the Taco 2.7.
Hi All I have a 2000 sr5 with 2.7 with the 5 speed. I turbocharged it. What a truck it's got 165k, tows by boat just fine. Life in the 49th state can be very demanding.
Want a truck that'll run forever?
Get the 2.7 liter.
👍 great
Different strokes for different folks. If you do a lot of city driving, like a lot of us of stop and go from light to light, do you really need a 300HP engine? Someone who needs a truck for light hauling and doesn't need their ego stroked for a V6, it's a great vehicle IMO. I drive the V6 btw
I have owned three trucks with this engine and it is bullet proof. As far as this video, not really crazy about it. Not sure if this guy even understands trucks or really knows what he is talking about, This engine is no where as bad as he makes it seem. The first mistake was using a rental vehicle for a test. Second the main purpose of the 2.7L engine is reliability and low cost, One of the biggest draws for this engine is it has a timing chain, not a timing belt. If well taken care of, this engine will get you to 400K miles with no major issues. Will it win drag races, no, will it out run V6 engines in trucks of similiar size, no, but will it outlast other engines, sure will.
I just bought a 4 door SR Tacoma today, a new 2022 truck with this engine, so this is bascially going to be my fourth truck with the 2.7L engine in the family. I bought the truck for my son as a gift to him. I bought his wife a new 2022 4Runner SR5 about 9 months ago and now they have two new Toyotas that will last them 10 years, no car notes. All he needs it for is getting around town, hauling yard supplies and a safe vehicle for our 1 year old grandson. To get into a 3.5L V6 Tacoma at todays stupid prices, it was going to cost about 5-8K more. The SR I bought for him has the TSS package and all the things he needs.
Purchased a '20 2.7 used. It will be used as my son's 1st truck. drives very much like the old 22R engines (I had an '86 4X4). Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. I'd rather have a 16-year old driving the 2.7 than a Hemi.
I live around the mountain area, there are a lot of hills to climb so this is not for me even though it's the most reliable engine, I know because I had a 1997 4runner with 2.7 4-cylinders and manual shift, it was quite a workout for the engine to climb the steep hills, super reliable engine though only oil change and nothing else, after 161k the trans oil was still brand new, said my mechanic, too bad I crashed it a few thousand miles later during an icy winter storm.
The 2.7L 2TRFE coupled with the 5 speed manual four wheel drive is likely the best Tacoma out there....more reliable than the 6 cylinder, smoother than the cylinder, easier to supercharge than the six cylinder. Per my owners manual mine is rated to tow 5000 pounds as it has the frame mounted tow receiver.
Another reviewer who only sees horse power and torque, there is far more to this engine and truck that reviewers just don't understand and never will. I own a 2.7 Tacoma and it is a very good truck.
my 2014 is slow yes, put a flow fx on it and it sound really good, it’s a 2wd and i get though jeep trails just find. Best truck for anyone who care about thrashing it and not having any repercussions.
I have a 00’ SR5 Prerunner 3.4 V6 with some off-road tires on it and it has 300k miles on it. I love this truck sooo much. I’ve raced the new tacomas and I’ve beat them. The only one that gave me an issue is the 2nd gen tacoma. The style of this truck is so amazing. It already comes lifted and all that.
This guy with the channel does not know anything about Toyota. Toyota goes out of their way to keep this legendary 2TR-FE 4 cylinder engine available because it's so extremely reliable and proven. It's been around for 25 years and many mechanics have never seen the inside of one because they never fail. Toyota is known for keeping proven technology in the production because it's been perfected. I'll take this 2.7 2TR-FE over any V6 because I like my trucks and cars to last.
The Car Care Nut said the 2.7 engine is bullet proof more so than the 3.5 in the 3rd Gen he said when working at Toyota in the service department he never saw a 2.7 Tacoma come in for major engine problems
This engine went out not with a bang but a whimper. NOBODY talked how the most reliable engine for 30 years was gone, EVERYONE talked about the death of the V6. This engine was the real loss, the last naturally aspirated iron block I4 you could buy in the US, the oldest Toyota engine gone.
My 2022 SR5 2.7L drives just fine...super smooth, good power....actually a lot more than I expected if you get on the gas, and excellent gas mileage. I noticed at the beginning of the video that the front wheel is missing the center spinner. Probably took a hard hit on a curve. Thus the shimmy. This guy is probably driving a damaged vehicle.
Or tire balance
bro 2.7 l slow af . get the v6
Press the ECT to pass or accelerate on freeways . its like a supercharger.
Call me insane but i love my little 2.7 Tacoma! Yeah it's slow but around town it's perfect and I love working on it
Have you driven on dirt roads/snow with it? How does it fare? Thinking about getting one.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 I take it on dirt roads very regularly and it does great, on one road is a very steep hill and loose gravel and my 2wd tundra gets stuck on it about 2/3 of the time, but my Tacoma in 4x4 has yet to get stuck. Haven't tried it in snow tho I live in Georgia lol
Yeah i'll keep the 3.5l in my 2023 tacoma. Its basically bulletproof by this point. That 2.7l is anemic. My friend would be flooring his just to merge with traffic on the interstate. Pulling a loaded double axle 6x12 uhaul trailer was no issue at all with my v6.
oh man that test drive gave me nostalgia going down Chapman haha
👍 gave me flashbacks of the 1980's! Was a great place to grow up in the 1975-1992!- Orange, Anaheim, Santa Ana, Fountain Valley, Costa Mesa, Garden Grove...
Nobody buys a Tacoma to race brother. Do you?
I have my 2022 taco 2.7 extended cab and I love it!
It's the best engine in the world by today and the best car in the world under 30k dollars.