Al Horford Shares A LeBron Playoff Story That Left Him Shook 😱
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- Our guest this week is NBA veteran for The Boston Celtics, Al Horford. We get into so much with Al and we can't wait to share this episode with you. In this teaser, Al talks about the difficulty of beating LeBron James in the playoffs and he describes his personal experience with it against The Cleveland Cavaliers.
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You guys are going to love this one. Al has had a fascinating career and we cover all of it. Full ep drops tomorrow so subscribe if you haven't already. Thanks, everyone!
You got me again with your title jj all videos u got that has lebron il click right away 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 love lebron topics so entertaining no wonder media loves bron bron to be their topics cuz viewer like me love to see and hear it #confession 😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌🙌
why no one mentions EPO? U cant talk about Lebron being unfazed and not mention EPO,lol... No honesty...
Next up Rodney Hood: got swept by Golden State three consecutive years 😢
Lebron James the Buffalo Bills of Basketball. One of the best Division Winners of all time 🍾🙌🏽
JJ heard Chalmers say nobody feared LeBron but they did fear MJ so he puts up this clip. And on top of that this is the best story about LeBron that people can come up with.
Man you're so sensitive when it comes to your generation and LeBron. Is your manhood or reputation in danger or something? You're just proving all these people right who say this generation is soft.
2018 LeBron was one of the best I've ever seen.... an absolute beast
Offensively I agree, dude was unguardable
Only thing that stopped him from making that Finals series an actual competition that year is he punched a locker and broke his hand after game 1. Dude was like a freaking machine that playoff run. Made me believe he was the goat after that year.
Yea but dont forget Miami Lebron that was a different animal in his prime.
2018 Bron was the best player I’ve ever seen. Pure dominance in every aspect. LeFadeaway on that Raptors series😂
@@fjo9492 I always go back and watch the fadeaway compilation from that series, unreal
For every sports broadcaster saying "No one fears Lebron", there's a story like Al Horford's.
@@tommygunn2782 yea gil and chalmers tweakin with that take
The entire east was scared of Lebron for 8 years
@@tommygunn2782 Gil looked terrified at the free throw line 😂😂 and like Nick Young said "you was never the same after that"😂
@@tommygunn2782 everyone who said no one fears Lebron is faking it 😂 they’re bums who’s opinion hold nuin
Just wait til LeBron retires, the stories that come out are gonna be insane
Al seems like a really chill guy
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Al Horford is super underrated. 36 years old, and on the verge of 15,000 career points, 10,000 rebounds, and 4,000 assists.
great player and really continued to develop his game late into his career. Lots of respect for him.
i think after last years playoff run ppl know what’s good. he was pretty damn close to outplaying giannis 1-2 games in the bucks series
@@ysmmac6015 He definitely steps up in the playoffs.
@@jacksonparker3671 if there’s anyone on that team that “deserves” a ring, it’s def him
@@yukon6370 I love aging players who decide to adapt their game rather than let their current game go stagnant and old
Same thing happened in the 2020 finals. Butler's legs were straight up gone by game 5 and 6. LeBron showed no signs of slowing down at all. Absolute freak.
He had didnt have to carry the lakers in that series
It’s called EPO lol.
@@Quawnn yep erythropoietin and blood doping go crazy
@@danidish2342u think lebron longevity is due to his access to technology or just freakish athleticism, or both
@@wobble- Both
Don't worry. You'll hear the stories once he retires. It's always hard to talk about one of your peers in this light while he's still playing because you don't wanna look like a fangirl when he's your competitor, but trust me when James leaves you'll start hearing them.
Exactly 💯
+99999 on this!
I am already a fan girl lol
Completely agree. Love the stories that have come out when AI and Kobe retired 🥲
💯
Lebrons game 7 against Boston is probably the most underrated performance in the history of this league. That And 1 goal tend where the defender intentionally jumped on Lebrons back and he carried him through the whole thing was the most superhuman play I’ve ever seen in my life.
Underrated is the most overrated word on CZcams.
the thing with lebron is he has games like that or the comeback in game 3 vs the pacers in 2017 and they're literally just another game for him lmfao. guy's playoff games are just unreal, he really won't be fully appreciated until he's gone
Marcus Morris piggyback
2018 LeBron is the best player I’ve ever seen. The fact he took that team to the Finals is beyond impressive.
Why won't anyone talk about how DIRK outplayed a GOAT who had prime WADE ,BOSH. That's greater than anything LeBrons has ever done.😮
@@ernestmuric6719 I ain’t talking about that series against the Mavs. LeBron did not play a good series, that’s true. But if you think that Dirk ‘outplaying’ LeBron in that series was greater job than LeBron carrying that Cavs team to the Finals while averaging 33 and playing 45 minutes, you are out of your damn mind.
Agreed. I've never seen anything like it and I have nothing against Michael or anyone else. It was just unbelievable to see the all round game, control and clutch plays. Even if he taken some defensive plays off, I remember specific games were he was constantly yelling to his team mates the plays the opposition were running and how to beat them throughout the games. I have to watch it all again to truly grasp it all.
@@ernestmuric6719 that was a great Mavericks team they had all the pieces. A star scorer in Dirk, Dpoy in chandler, a veteran Point guard in Jason kid and a deep bench with a combination of wing defenders and shooters. That team had that 04 pistons vibe to them as far as chemistry goes. They beat the defending champion Lakers, Durant Westbrook and Harden Thunder, and the Big 3 in Miami. That was a really good Mavericks team.
@ernestmuric6719 you talk as if it was only dirk who played vs LeBron, d- wade and bosh. Last time I checked, basketball is a team game not an individual. These MJ worshipers are such haters.
When LeBron's documentary comes out after retirement, people will finally realize why he's the greatest of all time. 💯
Make a 100 documentaries, numbers don't lie 😎
@@sheezle3 yes they do. Numbers without context definitely lie. Like Robert Horry with all rings isn’t even a top 200 player.
sure, if Championships don't count, if forming super teams is fine, then i guess KD also top 4 then and would deserve a documentary
@@sheezle3 lebron James has all the numbers😂😂🤷♂️
@@RealParadox85 shut up
his second tour in Cleveland was otherworldy. just absolutely fascinating how good he was
His 2018 version deserved a better roaster. Had he had a great team like Houston was that year with lebron , he would have had 5 rings by now.
2012 and 2013 is Peak Lebron. He bulked up, became a tank and still had 90% of the vertical and speed he had in his first Cleveland stint. Plus that version of Lebron played within a system and fits on any team.
Over these 2 years, he was:
- The best all around offensive player/most efficient high volume scorer in the NBA (27 PPG 7 APG on 64.5% TS)
- Great mid range shooter
- 80% finisher at the rim
- Best transition player ever
- 42.7% on Catch and Shoot 3s (38.5% from 3 overall)
- Guarding 1-5 at a high level
- Best help defender in the NBA
It’s called drugs brother, steroids can make you become a monster athlete
@@Mr_Banker222 😂
When it mattered most...Most game-winners of All-Time:
#1) Kobe = 26
#2) Jordan = 25
#3) LeBron = 19
#3) Dirk = 19
#5) Bird = 18
...several others
#17) Curry = 8
I don't understand why more people don't acknowledge 2016 as the highest peak of all time. He literally beat the most winning team in NBA history (73-9 Warriors) while leading BOTH TEAMS in Scoring, rebounding, assist, steals and blocks. No player in NBA history has ever done that in the Finals. GOAT.
He also won 2 games in the 2015 finals vs that same warriors team with Mathew delladova as their second best player
Because it wasn't the highest peak. Simple. Did he win a championship while also winning 1st team All Defense & Finals MVP & league MVP & Scoring title? No? Well.... Jordan did. FOUR times.
Do you know who else has done that in the entire history of the game? Nobody. The end.
@@kennyannunziato5477😂😂😂
@@kennyannunziato5477 how dare you? your use of facts and logic offends my feelings and made me look like chump for calling Lebron the Goat.. -that pcp dude probably..
Can’t be goat with super team at least Boston lakers warriors didn’t bulls didn’t just wade and kg in their prim really that’s what goats do lol
2018 LBJ playoff run was so intense. The pacers series with Oladipo taking him to game 7. To LeBronto taking over and then the Celtic series. What a run beating 3 hard teams in the East was no east accomplishment
The passing in that Celtics series, maybe (consistently) the best of his career. Laser passes, many of which, no look. Extraordinary.
I always feel like people that don't say 2018 LeBron just don't actually remember that playoff run and we're watching it that close. 5 of 6 in shots to tie or take the lead in ONE PLAYOFF RUN, with two buzzer beats. 45 Points in Game 7 against Boston. Most points ever heading into the Finals. PER higher than any MJ run ever. Most 40 pointers in a playoff run. 42-11-8 in elimation games. 51-8-8 in Game 1 of the Finals and almost beat the greatest team of all time with a mediocre team. I am an MJ over LeBron guy, because of LeBron's terrible leadership, and his choke against the Mavs in 2011, mostly, but 2018 LeBron is the best player of all time for a single season.
@@michaelturley8222Interesting comment.
what part?@@TheSakuragihanimichi
@@michaelturley8222As a lebron fan myself I gotta give props to you for giving respect to lebron even though ur a jordan fan. Most of jordan fans would just bash and hate lebron lol
As a viewer, if I had to pinpoint one year, I thought 2018 Lebron was peak Lebron individually. Not peak athletically, as I think the period horf references would be his athletic peak, but peak as a basketball player. That 2018 year with the team he had to drag them to the finals + that game 1 against the warriors. That was the best Lebron I had ever seen.
I agree
If his defense was like what it was Miami I’d agree
That Cavs team was not that bad and he didn’t “drag” them. Kyle Korver is one of the all time great shooters, they had Kevin Love, they had Wade, Isaiah Thomas, and Derrick Rose at one point, got back Rodney Hood and George Hill too, JR Smith was PRAISED in 2015 for his shot making in the absence of Kyrie and Kevin, etc. They still had Tristan Thompson playing at a very high level. Bron said “we got a squad now” and they were definitely the best team in the East since Kyrie was injured and Giannis hadn’t arrived in the league yet. They traded away a superstar and we’re heavily compensated, that team wasn’t bad. A bad team that made the finals is the 2001 Philadelphia 76ers. Do some research, that 2018 LeBron was getting all the favorable calls in those series and barely beat the Pacers and Baby Celtics in 7 games. That’s the best you’ve seen? A guy losing 3 games to significantly less talented teams in each round?
@@officialconch its been 4 years since that season how many of his teammates are still getting minutes in the league let alone starting? Go look at the shooting splits and stats of his teammates… his best teammate on the playoff run was jae crowder and jeff green lol spoken like a true bron hater
@@officialconch in 2018 they got a completely flipped roster mid season
Brons play during that 2nd run in Cleveland in the finals where he was avg like 30+ 15 and 12 for the finals like 3 yrs in a row was crazy af
KD ruined what would've been a great rivalry between Steph and Bron.
And people still disrespect his game
And people still be like "6 finals losses." Like yea he got 6 finals losses but most of those losses he played good enough to win
@@sportstalkonly1442 yep without KD ruining the rivalry and Wade knees not messing up Lebron would have about 7 rings now. Only series he was trash in was 2011
@@joechucks1555 Even for the most fierce Lebron hater (I used to be in this camp and gloried in his downfall of that 2011 Finals) this is the most realistic take.
I agree with the peak Lebron that Al mentioned. I'm a Spurs fan but he was like an apex predator then... Never gassed and just kept attacking showing all levels of scoring.
it’s INSANE how this was the first season i started watching the NBA from the start of the season all the way up to the Finals. I’m just lucky that i was part of the group that got to witness this every night. A dude absolutely carrying a team to the finals one buzzer beater after the next. And then game 1 of the Finals happened, a classic moment in NBA history.
2018 was just the most complete version of Lebron. His outside shots, mid range and 3 was just on point. Driving to the basket. Passing, rebounds... I mean everything a team needs, he gave it. Just so sad that GSW was just so weak that they had to get Durant to win against him.
Exactly 💯💯💯 golden state had to do a superhero team up in order to go up against LeBron James and he still put up unbelievable numbers.
Some players even admitted on GSW that they weren't beating those Cav Squads with Kyrie and Lebron. Such a shame KD went and ruined the league for 4 seaons.
In terms of skillset yes, but I would say his best overall was his peak in Miami. The crazy thing about his time in Miami is that DWade actually _hurt_ his overall impact numbers a bit because they played similarly, and LeBron was more efficient when he was the sole offensive creator. He was also a much better defender in Miami.
2013
@@tigeryumyums9407 yeah Andre igoudala and Draymond green have both said that, more people need to give LeBron James his flowers while he's still playing.
A podcast with Giannis would be funny af😂
agree
@@JJRedick get him on the show but I speak for everyone when I say we want kawhi!
@@NBAClient no you don’t
no it wouldn't, he is corny af.
@@RealParadox85 nah i enjoy him a lot more than guys acting tough
lifetime hawks fan here. nothing but respect for big al! will always be a legend
This is the guy who with 2 minutes left in the final game of an NBA season, sprinted from half court at full speed with a quarter court disadvantage to pin Andre Iguodalas lay up to the glass like it's the middle of the season.
I truly can’t wait for a Lebron documentary. I need all the stories and all the insight. I wanna be able to see Bron through the eyes of his peers/competitors the way we got to with Jordan w the Last Dance (which was eye opening for me as a 19 year old at the time)
I’m greatful for mediums like this podcast that allows me to get a glimpse into it like this. Thanks JJ.
Me too Brah!
There’s a movie about him coming out soon not documentary though
@@xXxALeXFuTexBaLxXx Ye, I think it’s just another SVSM reenaction.
Its not a documentary on his career but there's a great Bill Simmons podcast with Jared Dudley that has great insights into their bubble win. Road Trippin has a two part podcast about that period too. I learned a lot.
Documentaries on this sort of stuff bend the truth or leave out details to create a certain story.
Ehhh we are watching it play out I doubt it would be that exciting
2018 Lebron was the most dominant player I’ve ever seen with my own eyes. He was a created character that year.
He looked like a man playing against college kids which is crazy. Complete control of the game.
For we all know he's cloned duh!!!
NBA is RIGGED.
2016-2018 Bron still had some of prime Bron speed and quickness but his Intelligence and experience elevated him to another lvl
@@kn7cks347 he literally was playing against college kids in that Boston series.
@@curry1696 not dominant in size but in the game as a whole. Points, rebounds, assists, blocks, etc. he was doing it all
You guys do such an amazing job at bringing on amazing interviewees, I’m always so enthralled with learning about these various NBA players that may not usually get this kind of time to showcase their personality, knowledge, experience etc etc
'is there a peak LeBron?' definitely 2013. Dude average 27 8 and 6, 2 steals and a block, could guard every position, the best ever in the fast break, 56.5% from the field, and 40.6% from 3, elite IQ ofc, and he was at his heaviest at that point without sacrificing speed or cardio, he started posting up more, etc. Dude had absolutely everything. The best basketball peak ever.
Big Al is the man. ... Very much grateful that the Celtics went & got him back on the squad.
Such a great player & leader. ... Wish him all the best for the rest of his basketball career, & throughout his life
He should've never left. 2 years wasted in OKC.
@@m_w501 he got payed tho🤑you can’t blame him for leaving.
Horford is a huge part of Bostons success. Honestly it was like a totally different team when he was gone
@m_w501 in fairness he thought he'd be playing those years competing for a title with Embiid. He couldn't predict Ben Simmons.
@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 i know ben simmons is sht but it is more of an embiid fit than a ben simmons fit. Their defense just doesnt mesh, al is too slow to be a 4
2018 was greatest run by an individual player imo so many memorable moments
Kawhi Raptors run better
@@RealParadox85 siakan , vanvleet ,ibaka , gazol ,the other one i dont have to tell u but lebron was lebron with love and other players
@@RealParadox85 no!!!!
@@RealParadox85 Absolutely not lol. Don't get me wrong Kawhi was fantastic, but LeBron scored more, assisted more, rebounded just as much on equal efficiency. He did it with a much worse team too. Imagine LeBron on that Raptors team lmao
@@Dragens- I wouldn’t even mention K love he avg the 12ppg throughout that entire run lol I remember it went
LBJ 32PPG
KLOVE 11ppg
Everyone else 10ppg or less
Al Horford is so underrated! He is so good. Always wanted him on my team when i saw him play
I remember watching that Game 7 and the Q on the Jumbotron with a full crowd and watching the last few minutes was some of my favorite times as a Cavs fan. My heart was racing through that whole game, but the Cavs players were making all of their shots and LeBron straight up took over and once he got that and-one and beat his chest to the Celtic crowd. I knew I was witnessing one of the best, all-time playoff performances ever. Also it made it so much better it was against the Celtics because of Kyrie leaving us. I know he didn’t play, but that angered all of us. I also remember when Jayson Tatum dunked on LeBron, the whole crowd at the Q was all in unison going “OOO” haha, but luckily we got the upper hand and then got destroyed by the Warriors lol.
Those LeThanos memes in 2018 was crazy he was getting those infinity stones until his own teammate had to stop him 😂
Yeah dude fr. The warriors had to assemble the avengers and his own teammates to stop him haha
lmaooo
100% factz🐐
@@gotworc 😂😂😂😂
oh i forgot that memes, LeThanos
I learned this in the 2016 finals. Picking against Lebron in a game 7 is foolishness.
He topped that with the domineering performance in the majority of the usual other Playoffs series too. And by usually playing every minute too.
I was at that hawks vs wizards game and I saw that game winner by Al. What a great rebound! I remember like two or three guys hitting the floor as Al came flying in for the board. It was an incredible moment as a fan! Great to hear him say that was a big moment for him, it sure felt like it at the time when the crowd exploded with cheers!
One of my favorite players since being a main cog in the Gators' twin championships. Lifts the level of every team he's on, far more than most players, and definitely more than most fans would even recognize. Would have loved to have seen him with the Warriors during their last few big man-poor years. A mobile big guy would have fit right in and would shore up a lot of their weaknesses.
Man, JJ. I hope you guys get LBJ one day on the podcast. Would definitely love to hear that
Facts im waiting for that , that would be sooooooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That would be amazing
Only if he keep it real and speak openly and truthful.
Man has his own media company, Spring hill Media, man is going on nobody's podcast.👍👍👍😊😊😊
@frank-ko6de lol yeah I believe that 🤴🏾 👑 🐐
“Nobody feared Lebron” is the cutest quote I’ve ever heard. Such a bad take.
Man faxts ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I know right, isn’t that stupid?
maybe in the east..
@@bigcockedman714 Greatest Regular season team believes they needed the 3rd best player in league to win more championships. If they they confident to run it back like the 2013 Spurs, they would’ve. That sounds scary to me 😴
@@christopherd.3291 I’d say Kevin was second best behind LeBron.
The thing people don't realize with Lebron is that going to 8 straight finals is showing the wear and tear on him because he's nearing 40, but that also conditioned him from 2010 to 2018 to have absurd cardio and conditioning. He was used to playing those heavy minutes from the first second of the game to the last second. If you add his total playoff time up he played like an additional 3 or 4 seasons worth of basketball. That's why when people discuss the GOAT debate to me I always say Jordan had a better peak, but Lebron is the best player of all time in my opinion. To be a 38 year old man and averaging 30 a game is not normal with the mileage he has on his body.
I can’t wait for this full interview
2018 LeBron was him at his best IMO.. and Horford is really good, I never feared him when he was in Atlanta, but he scares me as Celtic.. it feels like he literally never misses a 3 when he plays the Cavs lol.. I definitely respect his game..
Man yall got our number this year tho. Would love to see a cavs-celtics series in the playoffs this season
@@ill_will23 I think Cavs and Celtics are basically equal talent wise but Celtics have much more playoff experience which is huge.. I don't think either team was ever fully healthy whenever they played this season..
@@BB13131313 😂😂😂😂 yeah nice try there not. Celtics are jus playing terrible right now but they not close. Cleveland hasn’t even gone to the second round since lebron. They not close in talent at all.
@@Mcjesus97 Donovan and Tatum are equal.. Brown and Garland are equal.. Mobley and Allen are equal to whatever two you want to mention.. LeVert is currently playing his best ball of the season.. Cleveland matches up well with Boston.. now Boston probably has a deeper bench.. but like I said Boston has a lot more playoff experience which is obviously huge..
@@BB13131313 brown and Tatum are much more valuable to the league there better. Tatum is too 5 and brown is top 10 sorry that is the worst take I heard all year. Garland is a legit the tenth best guard in the league maybe worse. Let alone player 😂😂😂🤡
JJ's transition from player to analyst and podcaster is just amazing to watch, kudos on the success my friend.
He is a natural
Love your podcasts man! Just subscribed
Thank you so much for Sharing this video.
2018 Bron was the best player I've ever seen. That man had the game figured out.
yea i tell people 2018 was lebron best season in his career
2012-2013 LBJ in Miami with 57 FG, the heat went on a 27 game winning streak, en route to a 2-peat (maybe not the best but my fave)
That peak Lebron question is a great one. I think he is one of the very few athletes who have had multiple peaks. His ability to adapt is amazing.
It's crazy, Al has been playing for so long, such a mature and wise dude... I think of him as an "old man," but he's literally a few months younger than me. What a great guy, he's been an important player in this league for a long time, really knows how to lead guys by example.
Still remember the Gators teams wit him and Joakim Noah 😂😂
Shout out Al can't wait for the full episode to drop GO CELTICS☘️☘️
W name
@@scamcreds My man!
Big respect to Al always. Very humble man.
The comeback to Cleveland was the best Lebron. The things he was doing without his best two teammates out some of the times was crazy
Lebron stories are always the best
Lebron James hater-“thEre arE no CoOl stoRies abOut Lebron JaMES”😂
That 2018 season was insane. Watching him that season cemented him at being top 2 of all time for me.
Man Al horford was a pivotal part of my childhood. Him on that hawks team with Joe Johnson and Josh smith zaza. The time Mike Bibby was there omg wat a time
2018 Lebron was unbelievable. an offensive firepower. unguardable, and clutch as hell. unfortunately had to meet its end when they ran to a better team in the finals.
AH always seemed like a solid dude! Good stuff 🔥🔥🔥
Al Horford seems like a great dude. He looks like he could play at least a couple more years if not more. As long as he's tall and can hit 3s he'll have a role. That said I cant wait to see what he does after he's done playing.
Al seems like a really chill guy. Always found him to be very likable.
Been a big al horford since his Florida days! Man deserves all the respect
Me too!! Well said!
Excellent informative video
So is very insightful. Thank you.
That Wizards game was SO meaningful to myself and, I believe, the Atlanta fanbase. I'm glad Al considers it his favorite too!! I will always cheer for big Al wherever he suits up
In 2020 NBA finals game 5 Lebron & Jimmy Butler going at each other. Bron 40 7 13 Jimmy 35 11 12 in the final shot Bron tries going to basket 4 players surrounded, so he found Danny Green wide open he missed. on game 6 Jimmy was not the same Jimmy in game 5, he was exhausted, his stats 12 8 7 but Bron 28 10 14 he was still menace. If it wasn't for Solmon Hill Bron Collison injury in Atlanta he would still be a beast. After that injury he couldn't go back to that level.
Still a beast. Just not the same beast.
Oh man I remember that game 5 against Washington. Pierce hit a shot in the prior possession, calling it series but big AL stepped up with a huge shot. Then they went to DC and got the job done
The 1st time the word disturbing became the ultimate compliment!
The 7 games with the Bucks were indeed the best games of last year..... We want more of that please!!! And JJ you have to bring Giannis at the podcast bro... You are one of the very few that actually shows him the respect that he deserves!!
Tommy!! Your jacket is absolute fire, sir🔥
Great episode but it was hard to get past your bomber haha
Horford playing his heart out! One of the few veterans that actually BALLING!
4:57 Was at that playoff game about 5 rows behind the Wizards bench. We were jumping on top of each other when that putback went in.
IMO peak Lebron James was found from 2017-2018. He figured some stuff out with his size and athleticism and combined that new strength with a polished offensive arsenal including insane post moves. He also had enough stamina to still be a be a effective defender. That guy was insane!
EPOs a hell of a drug. I’m all for giving greats their “flowers,” but you can’t not think about if all of the other players, with or against him, took/take the exogenous substances that he takes, would he still be that good? Just a thought experiment. If it turns out that most or all nba players take what lebron takes, then for sure, he’s the best. Until clarity is provided, which will likely never happen, I can’t take his accomplishments seriously. I know many others who think the same.
@@mrcoolguy2530 Where are you getting this PED idea from?
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
Can’t wait to see this one, as a Boston fan can we get a Jaylen Brown episode?
LeBron's 2009 playoff run doesn't get mentioned enough. He was at his peak athletically and was also an elite defender.
He broke the advanced stat sheet that year and even losing in CF he put up 38/8/8. His run from 09-18 in the playoffs is just godly.
@Swae5ive i feel the same way about 89 Jordan. They hadnt won a title yet but they were just head and shoulders above everyone else maybe ever. Also their first title years in 12/91 were also legendary
2018 overall playoffs and finals Bron wa something especial that we haven't 👀 in decades. The whole performance was unbelievable. He should win the MVP for that regular season as well.
Imagine down 0-2 tied the series and then win games 6 and 7. I think he scored 44 n 34 dominanting.
Glad Al is talking about this 🇩🇴
19-20 LAbron including the bubble is my pick for best version. '18 Cavs Bron is special too but something about his energy when he first got to the Lakers is so entertaining. I think he was just coming out of his prime athletically but he still looked like he could run all day, jump out of the gym, you were never afraid he would get injured, and his finesse game took on this Showtime-esque shine.
lol really
LeBron 2018 was great
He was on roids bro
Roofs don’t help with gas tank
Every season lebron James was “great” tbh🤷♂️
EPOs a hell of a drug. I’m all for giving greats their “flowers,” but you can’t not think about if all of the other players, with or against him, took/take the exogenous substances that he takes, would he still be that good? Just a thought experiment. If it turns out that most or all nba players take what lebron takes, then for sure, he’s the best. Until clarity is provided, which will likely never happen, I can’t take his accomplishments seriously. I know many others who think the same.
@@mrcoolguy2530 Cool, the same for Kobe, mj, too. Oh and Roy jones, beat it crumb
As a Knicks fan, Al seems like a wholesome guy. JJ and Tommy always showing a different side of these athletes.
We want more of that please
This is two handsome men my GOD!
Also, have to agree. '13, '14', '15 and '16 Lebron. There is no other like it. The league was going through a big change with style as the GSW dynasty started to come to the fore and you saw those big runs become more and more popular. Lebron managed to weather that storm and win in 13 and again in 16. Both times if he isn't at his absolute best, those teams have no chance.
2018 was the most complete nba player of all time.
@@mikemarc92 Spot on, just straight up playing and controlling everything on the floor.
This is LeBron’s Killer Instinct! People get caught up in MJ and Kobe trying to outscore and embarrass their opponents. LeBron is heady, he manipulates defenses and is a coaching staffs nightmare. He’s out smarting teams and is more prepared mentally and physically. That’s killer also. It just looks different when you play team basketball.
Yeah but MJ was mentally outthinking his opponents too. Ask John Stockton, the all-time assist and steals leader. Two Finals in a row, MJ out IQed Stockton. MJ knew Stockton like to cheat off of his man to double team MJ. So, during a timeout, MJ told Steve Kerr, who Stockton was guarding, to be ready for an open jumper! And as MJ predicted, Stockton left Kerr wide open, MJ passed it to Kerr, who swished it and the Bulls beat Jazz. In the next year's final, MJ lurked in lane while Stockton was too eager to get the ball to Karl Malone. Karl never knew MJ was behind him but Stockton should have! MJ strips Karl and goes down and hits the winning bucket. Stockton and Jazz were out IQed again! When MJ came into the league, he was outjumping everybody. When he left the league, he was outthinking everybody! Lebron is one of the greatest basketball players I've ever seen but MJ was the greatest!
@@gregoryharlston0602 I saw it live so I get it brotha. MJ is my other GOAT for a reason. I’m just saying that LeBron came in to the league with that mindset. MJ and Kobe had to learn how to trust their teammates and that took a lot of years. That’s their path though, it doesn’t take away from their greatness. I’m solely talking about this “Killer Instinct” that some say LeBron doesn’t have just because it looks different than there’s.
@@kaistreetsvisuals I agree with everything you said lad!!💯
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The funny thing lebron was a full package. There games he would play like magic manipulating the defense and setting up his players to make easy baskets....and they're times he would score like Jordan and Kobe lol the dude is Jordan, Kobe and magic all in one.
Man bron gave everything he had in that final year with the cavs we always talked about his 2018 playoffs but many forget he played a full 82 games that regular season… considering his usage rate that is just as incredible as his playoffs run
Man I just knew he was gonna say the game winner against the Wizards was his favorite moment. Easily one of my favorite playoff moments as a hawks fan
loving all these lebron questions, i think its important to celebrate and appreciate greatness while its still around!
In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK)
#1) Jordan = 44.7
#2) LeBron = 44.4
#3) Bird = 43.1
Curry is #31 with 37.5
That's just to put things into to perspective
2018 is the last "quintessential" LeBron season. It was his only season he played every game, heled the league in minutes played and minutes-per game, and of course he carried the Cavs to the Finals after Kyrie's mutiny and the failure to replace him with an impact player. Ever since then, we've had "load-managed" LeBron, a guy who's great (offensively) when he actually plays but sits large stretches of the season for rest and injuries. I honestly feel like the 2018 season shaved years off his career, which is somewhat amazing considering he's still going strong at his age.
it's amazing he dragged that horseshit team to overtime in GS in game 1 and that jizz mop JR smith couldn't even be bothered to know the score of the game.
Lol bron is almost 40 yrs old of course he needs load management especially if he has to carry these guys on his back 😩
This is very similar to Floyd Mayweather fight vs Andre Berto. Andre Berto in an interview when asked how difficult is it fighting Floyd he said we are in towards the end of the bout and I am fully tired and I look over at the other corner and Floyd is barely breaking a sweat, he said that that mentally defeated him more than anything.
Its me of Sun Tzu’s quote: “All warfare is based on deception… Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak”. Those two greats in their professions were so great for so long that even when they appeared weak (due to being at the latter end of their career), they still were as strong as it got relative to their competitors. They are both savants in their respect sports.
BIG AL always keeping it real !
I really read the title as “A.I. Horford” and expected some computer generated Big Al😭 The world we live in today man
boy off the goop
I agree with Al's take on LBJ's peak. That last two years with the Heat and first two years back in Cleveland, dude was a juggernaut. The combination of pace, power and skill was too much to handle.
Would love for Al and Lebron to have played on the same team‼️‼️‼️
2018 bron the best basketball player i’ve ever witnessed
I hope in the full episode JJ asks Al about his flinching during free throws
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Amazing conversation story
Big Al one of my favorite players. Such a great leader and player
And yet the general public just don't understand how good he is!
No imbeciles don’t understand how good lebron James is. Anyone with an average iq can see lebron James is one of the greatest players to ever play the game of basketball. And that’s not up for debate
Oh they do they just hate of out jealousy
EPOs a hell of a drug. I’m all for giving greats their “flowers,” but you can’t not think about if all of the other players, with or against him, took/take the exogenous substances that he takes, would he still be that good? Just a thought experiment. If it turns out that most or all nba players take what lebron takes, then for sure, he’s the best. Until clarity is provided, which will likely never happen, I can’t take his accomplishments seriously. I know many others who think the same.
@@mrcoolguy2530 yeah mate I COMPLETELY get what you’re saying! But the only thing is that you just made that up 🤷♂️like you don’t have a single form of evidence 😂😂so why don’t you just say the truth? Which is for whatever reason you don’t like/hate this man that doesn’t know you exist. And you were looking for any little thing to discredit ALL of his accomplishments rather you have evidence or not.
Be mad all you want but in your heart of hearts you know what I’m saying has truth! Anecdotal evidence is still evidence haha
When Hedo T or Dwight Howard gonna be on the podcast and talk about those Magic team with Stan Van Grudy 😂😂😂
I was at that game when Al hit the buzzer beater on the wizards. That 2015 season was something!
I agree with those years. 2016 watching him against the Raptors was crazy, the Raptors facial expressions were sad to watch. He was hitting shots behind the basket, fade aways, everything was falling.
I am a HUGE Al Horford FAN!!! He is AMAZING!! And he is MORE Clutch than Tatum, THAT is for sure!!!
Relax😂😂
horford is clutch in a low volume in playoff, I remember a stat that appeared in a playoff game in 2015, they were the 3 players with the best percentage in the clutch during I think they were the last 5 years, the three players were paul pierce, al horford and kevin garnett.
I believe “peak LeBron” was 2007-2020
felicitaciones buena entrevista mejor invitado impocible
Big AL. one hell of an all-around player, but an even better man, and person. I tip my hat to you brother.
I will say the jr blunder game where he had the 50 pt trip double vs gsw gm 1 was the best he ever played …he should have did the Kobe and did that the whole series he could have stole a game or two
Well he hurt his hand after that game 1, or else he would of stole a game or 2 in the series. Doubt he would have won the series though, unless kd or steph got hurt.
Somebody send this to Mario Chalmers 🗣️🗣️
Facts 💯💯💯💯💯💯 chalmers same as pat salty 😂😂😂😂
We're not saying enough about Tommy Alters outfit on this podcast, I need to know where to get that jacket. Too fresh!!