What was The Pilgrimage of Grace?

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  • @oliviasinclair5586
    @oliviasinclair5586 Před 7 lety +42

    Pretty good video, helps with revision! Might need to check on some of your dates though: Henry came to the throne in 1509 as well as the lincolnshire rising was in 1536 along with the pilgrimage of grace:)

  • @howtubeable
    @howtubeable Před 6 lety +41

    I had never heard of the Pilgrimage of Grace nor any of the other rebellions against the new Church of England. In the United States, we have been led to believe that the English people obeyed Henry VIII without question and quietly converted to Protestantism. Bear in mind, we get most of our history through Puritan and other Protestant filters.

    • @Le_GingerBeardMan
      @Le_GingerBeardMan Před 6 lety +18

      If you ever start studying church history, you learn that a lot of the things we Americans were taught about the Reformation is wrong.

    • @bensyson3438
      @bensyson3438 Před 6 lety +4

      If you read any history you’ll start finding that most of the shit were taught in the western world (im British :3 ) has such a rose tint to everything 😩

    • @SamuelHallEngland
      @SamuelHallEngland Před 6 lety +9

      Howard Wiggins I'm from the North East so I'm kind of biased, but I'd say that most of the best preserved Catholic Churches and Minsters are in the North.

    • @joshuajackson4742
      @joshuajackson4742 Před 5 lety +2

      Ben Syson I find quite the opposite, but okay.

    • @bensyson3438
      @bensyson3438 Před 5 lety +4

      I don’t, and considering I’ve just finished my bachelors in history I’d like to imagine I’ve got some sort of idea. We even do a whole module titled ‘history from another perspective’ where we look at nations history from the nations point of view and not the eurocentric view that plagues what we consider ‘historical accuracy’
      That’s not to say your wrong, quote the opposite! I’d like to know your opinion on the matter and why you think that way as debate is what makes the subject great! Have a fantastic day :D

  • @paolocabling
    @paolocabling Před 6 lety +20

    I could use this for my novel of alternate history wherein the Pilgrimage of Grace will result in a series of English Catholic Exodus to an island where they will build a nation based on the ideas of St. Thomas More. A Filipino patriot fond of British, Irish, and European history here! :D

    • @indiciaobscure
      @indiciaobscure Před 4 lety +5

      Did you ever write the novel? You mean a land based on the principals of Utopia? Sounds very interesting!

  • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
    @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 Před 7 lety +5

    This is just amazing.. looking forward to the next video.. great job.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před 7 lety

      NorthObsidianG Thank you! I've got quite a diverse topic schedule for the next few weeks but there'll certainly be some more Henry VIII this month.

  • @arguspanoptes9510
    @arguspanoptes9510 Před 5 lety +2

    I've been interested in the Pilgrimage of Grace. Thanks for the upload. Loving the lack of polished commentary. Shows the humility

  • @Galvorn11
    @Galvorn11 Před 4 lety +6

    Long live to the Roman Catholics along the world!

  • @theballetdancer200
    @theballetdancer200 Před 6 lety +3

    Thank you these videos are so good for my GCSE history revision xxxx

  • @CatholicK5357
    @CatholicK5357 Před 2 lety +3

    A very informative video.
    There are two clarifications that I would like to make.
    1. King Henry the VIII originally got special permission to marry his first wife from the Pope. This is because, although not against the moral law (something which could never be dispensed), it was nevertheless against the disciplinary laws of the Catholic Church at the time to marry his brother's widow. He gained this dispensation. This is the fact that made the annulment impossible. He tried to later argue that his first marriage was invalid due to her being his brother's widow and against Church law. It was an obvious hypocrisy and the annulment was not granted.
    2. You mentioned at the beginning of the video that only learned men were Protestant in England at the time. This is likely true. However, such a statement can give the unintended viewpoint that learned men were all Protestant in England, meaning that only the ignorant peasants would be Catholic. However, this is definitely not the case. There were many learned in England who remained staunchly Catholic before and after the persecutions started. Two of them became Martyrs for refusing to take the unethical oath, so as to not compromise their consciences, and many more under Queen Elizabeth I. I remember hearing of another rebellion to defend the Latin Mass. English services had been forced on a group of commoners, allegedly for their own good, even though none of them spoke English in the first place and were not consulted.
    I appreciate the straight to the point style of this video. A lot of times historians and historical revisionists alike will add in political ideas and anti-Catholic biases instead of just telling the story. That is fine I suppose if they are being honest that the video is propaganda. But they usually try and imply that it unbiased.

  • @mikkelkruger2272
    @mikkelkruger2272 Před 6 lety +12

    You were right twice, Luther was both a priest and a monk 😎😎😎

  • @lenocman2
    @lenocman2 Před 7 lety +4

    I just came across your video today. I enjoyed it! Subscribed. I was a fan of The Tudors series of a few years ago, and wanted to research about the Pilgrimage, and here I am!

  • @O7ghostX
    @O7ghostX Před 6 lety +4

    You made my day. As French people, we had never heard of British history before now and we are expected to master its history by the end of the school (university?) year. In order to comment the texts, we need to add some context and examples of rebellion... The Pilgrimage of Grace was often popping up in my notes but it couldn't imprint itself in my memory. I'm going to watch all of your other videos now.

    • @nancytestani1470
      @nancytestani1470 Před 3 měsíci

      Jeepers..no British History…Don’t you know that France and England have known ,fought, married into FrenchRoyalty..and back and forth. Don’t you know about William the Conqueror..French, conquered England. He was Norman French. French was the language of the English royalty for a long time ,along with Latin, of course. The Hundred Years’ War..come on. Henry Vth..almost became King of France, English King..but it would not have worked out. Get with it. Fascinating history with the French Monarchy and English Monarchy going over centuries. Yes, you got rid of the monarchy, but that doesn’t mean you can’t read about your own history. Ciao

  • @mariamclean971
    @mariamclean971 Před 7 lety +2

    More Tudor videos please! So helpful for A level history :)

  • @donfelipe7510
    @donfelipe7510 Před 6 lety +5

    I suppose sending the Duke of Norfolk to negotiate with the rebels was a daring and risky move in itself. The Dukes of Norfolk were probably the most prominent family in England that remained Catholic and I believe still do so even today. Perhaps Henry VIII sent Norfolk as a test of his loyalty? There was perhaps a real risk that Norfolk would join the rebels.

  • @mowvu5380
    @mowvu5380 Před 3 lety

    i love this channel. i'm not simple i just rarely have anything helpful to add. just helping the channel with comment activity👍

  • @_MysticKnight
    @_MysticKnight Před 3 lety +2

    "Faith of our Fathers! Mary's prayers
    Shall win our country back to thee:
    And through the truth that comes from God
    England shall then indeed be free."

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl Před 6 lety +3

    James IV (married to Margeret Tudor) was defeated by Catherine D'Aragon, he died in the battle. James V became king after that and after him came Mary Queen of Scots, the mother of James VI / James I.

  • @williamcooke5627
    @williamcooke5627 Před 7 lety +9

    A good read on the Pilgrimage of Grace is 'The Man on a Donkey' by H.F.M.Prescott.

  • @sallydarley9812
    @sallydarley9812 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi, Hilbert, Nice video. Well made. Lovely pictures. I am Traditional Catholic. Tomorrow I will be attending a talk on the Pilgrimage of Grace. I can't wait! I don't want to know about the horror and the tortures and killings but I do want to know about the Catholic reasoning. Everyone had to keep their mouths closed when the Tudors were on the throne. Or, you would have to be sycophantic.

  • @dee5298
    @dee5298 Před 7 lety +6

    Henry is definitely famous in the US. For some reason people here have a fascination with English monarchy. I do not share that sentiment in quite the same way they do.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před 7 lety +7

      Yeah, he's interesting but I personally much prefer Henry VII and the Wars of the Roses :)

  • @mayalucyblagbrough-veitch1345

    Really helpful! Thanks!!

  • @allmightlionthunder5515
    @allmightlionthunder5515 Před 7 lety +8

    never say no to king Henry 8th

  • @BD-xl4vv
    @BD-xl4vv Před 6 lety +2

    A level history today watching this on my way

  • @MS-zv3cf
    @MS-zv3cf Před 6 lety +2

    Good video but I do believe that the Lincolnshire Rising and the Pilgrimage of Grace were both in 1536, just days apart, as they were linked by the issues of dissolution.

  • @teiastamos6411
    @teiastamos6411 Před 4 lety

    Thank you this helped a lot for revision!

  • @williamcooke5627
    @williamcooke5627 Před 7 lety +12

    Aske practised law in London but he came from Yorkshire.

  • @mathildaelwen2946
    @mathildaelwen2946 Před 6 lety +5

    Henry VIII came to power in 1509 my dude

  • @pkneebo
    @pkneebo Před 6 lety +1

    What sources did you use to make this video?

  • @yvonnepengue7022
    @yvonnepengue7022 Před 3 lety

    Very Good, Mate, you should make more. if u now what i mean :)

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake Před 2 lety +2

    The Protestants destroyed monasteries in Ireland also.

  • @jaywilliams9294
    @jaywilliams9294 Před 7 lety +10

    0:26 1509

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před 7 lety +3

      You're right, I had a momentary brain freeze because I was trying to work out when his regency ended and when he became sole ruler xD

  • @chrisk5651
    @chrisk5651 Před rokem

    Monks can be priests and priests can be monks but not all monks are priests and most priests are not monks. Luther is traditionally considered both. While he is traditionally considered a monk he technically was a friar. Friars were brothers in a religious order like monks but instead of being cloistered away in a monastery, they are more actively in the secular world serving people. Monks were originally hermits who set out to escape the secular world and devote themselves to God by going off to live in the desert or woods. In the West, St. Benedict organized a group of them & gave them rules to live by. Friars did not seek to escape the secular world but to serve God’s children. They could also have Rules and also took vows - like poverty and celibacy. As I mentioned Benedictine monks (the Trappists also are monks who go back to that tradition), the most famous friars are the Franciscans, started by St. Francis of Assisi. Also earlier were the Dominicans founded by St. Dominic. Luther had been an Augustinian friar under the Rule of St. Augustine.

  • @sparkieT88
    @sparkieT88 Před 6 lety +1

    Luther was a Monk and was assigned to a church to preach in, so he was also a priest.

  • @si4632
    @si4632 Před 5 lety +2

    We should all become catholic back to our roots

  • @onionring2399
    @onionring2399 Před 2 lety

    vicar of louth was not the same person as the shoemaker, as stated - vicar was Thomas Kendall, shoemaker was Nicholas Melton.

  • @thomasroth1581
    @thomasroth1581 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting. Have a comprehensive video or other helps ?

  • @nishthenash
    @nishthenash Před 5 lety +2

    i am pretty sure the lincolnshire rising was in 1536 1-11 october at least it is what they say in my a level history text book

  • @tsirtosky1439
    @tsirtosky1439 Před rokem

    It's sad that the leaders were so naive and not so crafty to send correspondence or emissaries to Spain, France, and Scotland first, before exposing themselves to domestic forces.

  • @nancytestani1470
    @nancytestani1470 Před 3 měsíci

    For Henry..it was quite a threat.

  • @pkneebo
    @pkneebo Před 6 lety +1

    My sources tell me the Lincolnshire Rising happened in 1536 not 1534

  • @conlaiarla
    @conlaiarla Před 5 lety +1

    Famous ? Hmm... I think you must have meant to say infamous .It would be more apt.

  • @SamuelHallEngland
    @SamuelHallEngland Před 6 lety +1

    Yorkshire!

  • @goldenfiberwheat238
    @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 6 lety +1

    What’s a barrister?

  • @beakfordclakington1337

    l hate the internet
    im an adult looking for hostory
    not a school person looking for ''''''bite size ''''' bits for an 'exam'

  • @deanbuss1678
    @deanbuss1678 Před 5 lety +1

    👍

  • @Amc933
    @Amc933 Před 3 lety

    spell check!

  • @joshuagreenslade3445
    @joshuagreenslade3445 Před 7 lety +1

    My mums from staffordshire

  • @schustermedia5032
    @schustermedia5032 Před 5 lety

    Henry came to throne 1509 not 1510

  • @psammiad
    @psammiad Před 4 lety

    The Cumberland Sausagefest

  • @garethmaccoll4374
    @garethmaccoll4374 Před 7 lety

    James IV

  • @tasha3903
    @tasha3903 Před 6 lety +2

    i have a test and i am going to fail thanks to u

    • @Kai-vp1oh
      @Kai-vp1oh Před 6 lety

      lmao what

    • @IDK-td5ub
      @IDK-td5ub Před 4 lety

      You could have just gone on another video

  • @ManTheHunt
    @ManTheHunt Před 6 lety +1

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them

  • @117mick7
    @117mick7 Před 7 lety +3

    first

    • @alrond1485
      @alrond1485 Před 7 lety +1

      no i am first

    • @117mick7
      @117mick7 Před 7 lety +1

      Halvingen you lie good sir i demand trial by combat

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před 7 lety

      Now now :D

    • @117mick7
      @117mick7 Před 7 lety +1

      History With Hilbert i konw alot about ancient and medieval warfare Logistics and tactics but could you tell about medieval organization during the high and early period if you can thank you

    • @alrond1485
      @alrond1485 Před 7 lety +1

      i accept!

  • @ManTheHunt
    @ManTheHunt Před 6 lety +1

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them

  • @ManTheHunt
    @ManTheHunt Před 6 lety +1

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them

  • @ManTheHunt
    @ManTheHunt Před 6 lety +1

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them

    • @IDK-td5ub
      @IDK-td5ub Před 4 lety

      You aren't intellectual. Intellectual is you

  • @ManTheHunt
    @ManTheHunt Před 6 lety +1

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them