Remco's Mechanical in Algarve & Opening Weekend Is Here | LRCP Weekly #4
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- In the fourth episode of LRCP Weekly Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen recap the past week of the world of cycling and preview the opening weekend.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:32 Race recaps
00:24:28 Preview: UAE Tour
00:33:00 Preview: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
00:52:20 Preview: Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne
00:59:51 Other races
01:05:30 Alpecin-Deceuninck’s new kit
01:10:10 Christian Prudhomme (ASO) talks One Cycling project
01:14:04 Vlasov, Kuss and Almeida call for Tour co-leadership
01:20:38 Bouhanni starts legal procedure
01:27:22 Wrap-up - Sport
"The Farmer's Protest Classics" 😂...thanks for the weekly Pods guys
These weeklies are perfect. I love the recaps and then we get previews! Thanks for all the work you guys do to entertain us. It's appreciated. Can't wait for opening weekend!
Really enjoy the highland cow plushie peeking through the cushions on LR's couch. Hope plushie gets promoted to a more prominent position in later podcasts
Very excited for the season picking up steam, you guys are a huge part of my enjoyment of it. Tha is for the weekly show, looking forward to this seasons coverage!
Woohoo! So psyched for the season ahead and it's only February! 😆
Guys the Spotify upload of this has problems with benjis mic
18:32 my pitch for this: we get a uni puerto stage with a brutal final climb, but crosswinds before. In those Realini gets dropped by 10mins and also Vollering needs to be convinced again to wait for her mates. Once that's checked Kasia is set to win. GG
Loving these weekly shows guys, especially the rundown of news articles that have come out.
I can't wait for the classics to start, I really hope WVA has a great year
Wait? What? Completely forgot it is opening weekend. Now I can't wait for the weekend.
Love these weeklys, hyped up since tuesday morning for this
What makes the Alpecin jeans kit even worse is that it gives me flashbacks to Chiapucci in the Carrera jeans kit from the darkest EPO days. But then at least Carrera was an actual jeans company if I remember correctly.
Johnny Hoogerland also got in a legal battle with the insurer of the television car that pushed him into the barbed wire in the 2011 Tour. It took three years to get to a settlement.
What about the two significant speed bumps in the final 60-100 meters of stage 2 at Setmana Ciclista Volta Femenina de la Comunitat Valenciana, I would guess the last of the two speed bumps was 30meters from the finish line 😳😬🤔
Pat, to quote you on Adam Yates at UAE
"Unless there are heavy cross winds tomorrow (Stage 2) and he crashes" no one can beat him 😮😮🔮🔮
I'm thinking Jay is definitely looking for the goods now, in fact he was after the ITT I think.
Strange to see UAE tour workout a big GC gun in attendance
Loving the addition of this weekly show to the schedule lads
The Rwanda TTT was probably more to test logistics ahead of Worlds next year
Loving this format in my weekly listening rotation keep it up guys
“ you guys in the Benelux love your jeans shorts”. LMAO!!!!!
these are great!
Love the show! Just a heads up that on the audio-only podcast version of this recording, Benji's audio is pretty messed up. There are a ton of audio clicks on Benji's side of the conversation.
I agree that I do not believe that Visma will have leadership issues at the Tour. I am curious if UAE will have team issues within the Tour. I am certain that Pogacar will go in as the leader on paper (and that is what the Team will say), however, I am unsure if all of the other UAE team members who could be leaders will actually fall in line and work in a support role for Pogacar. For Bora, if the team publicly state that the undisputed leader is Roglic, that would be a slight against Hinley and he would have a reason to be upset. In my opinion I believe that the best solution for Bora would be a co-leader approach.
Flashbacks to the Carrera jeans outfits 😲
Patrick, Vlasov co-leader thing was for Paris-Nice and not for TdF. About TdF he just said that it would be stupid to lose time early because of tactical reasons, but he is there as a domestique for Roglič.
Probably you read the Wielerflits article, which took what he said a bit out of context.
No preview of Ardèche and Drôme?
Does UCI review/approve team jerseys to prevent too much of the same colour or matching kits? If not perhaps they should. Teams would be required to submit next years designs by Oct/Nov and then UCI compare all side by side for any potential conflicts.
Apart from the mechanical, the gap between Remco timetrialist and Remco grimpeur remains, to me, a real mystery, considering Evenepoel's weight.
Aero
@@louisschmitz8346 not enough, also considering that his position is now being imitated by many other TT specialists. There must be something in the pedaling technique, as well
@@sergiodemichele6295 I honestly think his weight and pacing arent adequate for climbing...last year he supposedly gained weight for the giro tts and the Worlds TT (which he won well) and then underperformed in most of the other climbing races
It really is Aero and his ability to put out peak watts in that position. He seemingly did 6.7w/kg in the TT. Everyone else is putting out less w/kg in a less aerodynamic position. Like peak Ganna probably has to do close to 100w more than Remco to match him. Riders as small as Remco typically can't fold themselves over and still produce the watts they do on a road bike. It's why he's a physiological freak
His climbing is also insane when he's at his lightest. The problem seems to be his body doesn't naturally want to be that light and Quickstep seem to struggle to balance lightweight and health as his off days are particularly severe
@@endaohalloran6649”probably has to do close to 100 watts more than him” you can’t just pull numbers out of your mind and treat them as fact. Show me evidence for this aero number or don’t add to the noise
Regarding the Ruta del Sol: just award points for the stage win and "cancel" the GC?
that's what PCS is suggesting will happen/has happened
59:41 Is Patrick speaking Flemish or just clearing his throat, who knows
Polar Bear news, Chat GPT news: brilliant!
that Join add was slick ngl
Any updates on how to watch cycling in Australia yet?
lets ffin go!
Yessssir🎉🎉🎉
Any advice for streaming service in the US. Had been GCN+ for me but not sure where to go now! Spring classics and 1 weeks stage races. Thanks
I'm in the US. We already had MAX so added the B/R sports and they are carrying a great number of races. Eurosport commentary. They have replays. Flobikes carries CX. Peacock carries a few including TDF. Hope this helps!
I dream of a Kasper Asgreen win at Oomlop, but I’d be shocked if a Visma rider doesn’t win, most likely WVA or Laporte.
Gold is much heavier than bronze per unit volume :)
what streaming services do you need to watch pro cycling in the UK/Europe?
Eurosport or Discovery Plus
The stage to the top of Fóia was quite exciting because was an attrition race and Martinez win was a surprise! What you guys think?
Why alpecin released its kit so late its already februaray? What was their kit in januarry?
Mareczko podiumed stage 1 lmao
My dudes sleeping on Asgreen
Watch out PUCK coming to cook Sd Worx in omloop this week end
What happened with Benji’s audio? I hear crackling
Same
The Bouhanni crash at Turkey was caused by a spectator entering the course.
Remco may need to give up some absolute power and TT performance to ensure his ability to climb for sustained 3-4 days at its best. It’s in the margins but is relevant. This means no quick weight drops 3-4weeks out from le tour eg 63->60kg via an altitude camp but a longer term nutrition plan… otherwise Visma Lease a bike will put kilajoules into him day in day out and come the final week of three weekend 58kg Jonas will take him and Roglic to the cleaners and win handily come NICE. He has to be good for 3-4 big days in a row and if he’s relying on the final TT that is may prove to be an error.
Remco's optimal weight seems to be around 62kg, he was 63kg when he started last years giro and dominated the ITT's, so even at climbing weight he still should be able to have great TT performances.
I do agree they should avoid big changes in short time before GT's, like happened with last years WC ITT to the Vuelta. I don't think anyone ever told his weight at the WC ITT, but he did say he had to lose quite some weight in 10 days (though this wasn't the only reason for his break imo).
Takeaways from Valenciana
Vos looks great ahead of the classics, with a stronger and/ or sometimes smarter team she could have won three stages here because of see next
Balsamo climbing quite poorly, dropping early on climbs, based on this race I would not expect anything from her in the real classics, and as for sprinting well hard to say based on this race how she will match up against Wiebes or Kool
Fisher Balck great on the very steep climb, but dropped on the shallow one the day before. The inconsistency is the main question with her I think, but this was definitely a step up from last year,beating very strong competition on merit, a lot stronger than UAE.
Realini lost 10 seconds on a simple 3 km descent vs the other lightweight FB ( and a lot more on the descending stage 2). I do think this is not her best climbing level yet
Niewiadoma could or maybe should have had the GC win here. Her and Paladin were the only couple in the group that let Reusser take 30 seconds on stage 2. But they were more worried about Vos winning the stage than about limiting the damage versus one of the main GC contenders. In general I think they get away with a lot of bad tactics, whereas SD is criticized heavily for the couple of races were they maybe got things wrong. They have two of the best riders in the world in their team in Kasia and Dygert (who is obviously not doing a lot of road races but last year she could have der won more), plus a lot of other strong riders and good youngsters. Without that Reusser gift Kasia would have won GC.
Realini climbed fine (probably best there), she just entered the climb in bad position, about 20m behind the front and had to catch up herself. All the other favourites were already at the front looks like. Agree she just seemed to lose on the descent, can't tell much since the stream dies then.
@@thewoolyknitter I do not see how you can say that Realini climbed better than FB. She might have been a bit behind at the bottom, but it was a long steep climb and she was about ten meters behind FB for about the last 2 KMS. At the same level, OK, better, no. The descent lasted only 3 KMS and she was in the wheel at the top of it and 10 seconds behind at the finish, I don’t think we need the images to draw the conclusion. In general you do not really need the images anymore to conclude that the descending (and the flat} are a huge problem for Realini. She has got some great results because she is a great climber, but also because opponents did not see her as a big threat for GC and therefore did not attack her in descents and the flat.
Think you are underestimating how Strong philipsen is. Think he is maybe the sprinter who will be there if only 10-15 riders are left in K-B-K for ex
Give points for the stage, but not for the overall?
Hey guys I'm only seeing 20 UCI points awarded at the Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol and that's for the only stage that went ahead, stage 3 out of 5 originally intended very tough and hilly stages, we all know stage 3 was a completely different stage originally intended. So only stage points awarded and nothing for GC that I can see anyway. This is fair enough I believe but just my opinion.
Stuck in the big ring because you have to shift. Sounds like rider mistake veiled as mechanical issue.
Gold is over 2x as dense as bronze…..😂
Benjis audio is sputtery
2023 -> GC Kuss
2024 -> GC Kasia
BENOIT COS-NE-FROY
The UCI has to stop WT riders from dropping down to their conti teams to ride in races - It denies opportunities for lesser riders to win races.
I genuinely think the Alpecin kit is ugly on top of the similarity, the UCI should step in because my eyes are bleeding 😂
Remco certainly doesn't help himself with his interviews. Outside of that, I wouldn't worry too much about not winning sprints at the end of stages because his TT is such an advantage. He certainly needs to improve his climbing ability over long climbs
I don't know why riders like Kuss, Vlasovand others are not doing the Giro and try to be the leader and have a better results.
Two minutes into the video and I didn't hear Benji say "F*cking !! this or that" ...... Please buddy keep this up for the rest of the season ❣💯
We love the content dear friends, and if something exceptional does happen..... then okay we can all be without words sometime, but it is not necessary to do it every five minutes.
Thus...... so far .... so good.... hahaha
I will now continue with the video.....
Cheers guys, and many thanks as always. ❣
Agree, the swearing is cringy, and totally not value adding to an otherwise golden podcast.
You cannot change the rules after the race. That's a basic principle that should never be tampered with. Whatever the circumstances. Van Gils must get the points. Simple as that.
He will get points. But for a 1 day race i guess like he actually raced.
If you race 1 day, you race 1 day regardless of what it supposed to be.
The points are awarded based of the category of the race and number of stages of the race not based of the Name of the race.
@@adrianbuck8772 Your last sentence doesn't make sense, as everyone knew beforehand that they'd participate in a 2.Pro race. The name doesn't matter whatsoever.
Van Gils should get the points as determined before the race. Otherwise, the UCI would open Pandora's box. It would be even worse in this particular case, as they knew before the start of the TT that the final two stages were also to be cancelled, and had communicated this to the teams and the press. This is not even decisive, since changing the rules after the race is unforgivable in itself. However, it does aggravate the situation even more if they wouldn't award Van Gils the 200 + 20 points for the day's and final classification victory. What if race favourite (+ riding for a big team) Ayuso had won the TT? Would they also post-race change the rules, with the benefit of hindsight and all that, and award him less points? People would start asking questions. Lotto-Dstny would definitely start asking questions. They'd maybe even file a lawsuit, and rightly so.
@@maartenh3313 Part of any Deal is amount of the certain good/production/performance.
The promised amount was clearly not delivered. If you are promised 5 cakes and get 1 cake (even if the reason why its only 1 is totally out of the Bakers control) your paying for 1 cake (i assume).
If you want to open the Pandora box by giving more points out than the performance warranted other Organisators could just add random stages to their 1 day race to have more points just to have an "emergency" and go back to their Original 1 day race but with higher point payout (in theory).
@@adrianbuck8772 Again, that doesn't matter. If you change the rules after the race, you're on a slippery slope. This time it's for a lack of balance between amount of UCI points and ... effort, or distance and time on the bike, or something like that. What will it be next time? Btw, how much of the race is a good amount? The Tour of Britain that got partly cancelled, not even before the race, but unexpectedly after stage five (major difference there!): that was sufficient, apparently? Where do you draw the line? Keeping the rules in that case did benefit Movistar, at that time one of Lotto Dstny's main rivals in the fight against relegation from the WT.
And again, we shouldn't draw any lines here. We should leave the rules as they were, unless all teams were informed about the change of rules beforehand, that is, before the start of the TT. Why do you ignore this point? The things you say are completely pointless and negligible compared to that.
I won't even go into your final paragraph. That is just weird. Is it even an argument? Do you really think that would be a plausible risk?
@@maartenh3313 The Organisation changed the Arrangement during the race (by cutting 80% of the race).
If 1 side of an contract doesnt hold up their end of the bargain why should the other side be forced to do so?
Thats basic law knowledge. It was even part of my economic class in school (Highschool, not college/university).
Also Teams know that an 1 day race gets valued differently than an 5 day race.
Thats another general rule.
Its not on the Organisation to remind the Teams which of the General rules due apply at this specific point.
1 want to have an 1 day race count like an 1 day race, you want to count an 1 day race like an 5 day race.
Yes it sucks for the Teams and riders the way it went (and Organisation aswell). But acting like an 4.95 Kilometer ITT performance equals an 5 day stage race isnt right or fair either.
your reaction to remco was identical to mine, and concisely explains why he's so very easy to passionately dislike; why does he find it impossible to give props to the winner? i try to respect the cyclist but i really can stand the man's petulance. not mention his entitled arrogance and endless excuses when he comes up short - who else does that? chapeau Dani 💪
He congratulated Martinez in other interviews and to him in person. Now it just got blown up because he didn't in this one specific post race interview where the entire point is to get HIS story, not just have him congratulate the winner and move on.
@@MDP1702 i’m somewhat generalizing but he does very often make the kind of excuses that are inconceivable from the likes of wout, mathieu, etc. i was thinking specifically about stage 8 in last years vuelta when primoz out-sprinted him and blabla shoulda won.
@@tymanski1
He also often just straight up admits when he made a mistake/wasn't strong enough, but those times tend to be forgotten while the "exuses" linger in people's minds.
Him admitting a mistake is also often taken as an excuse, like him going too early in the first stage, which if he didn't might change the winner or it might not. He never said he'd definitely have won without that mistake, but that seems to be how people take his explanation, that he said he would have won.
He's just painfully honest after a stage, which might show more that mechanicals/misunderstanding are more common than believed and more riders just "talk the line" more often, it just is usually not those riders with problems also winning/getting close to a win.
Like he isn't the only rider that gets such situations like at the Vuelta, just look at Johanessen a few days ago, celebrating too early. Miscommunication etc isn't uncommon at all.
Too many mechanicals for Remco?… do not buy specialized ?
Isn't shifting more shimano?
Can't we have riders names on their back? Even having the same race number throughout the season. Having names on jersey would be good for their merchandise as well. Pretty much all other team sports do it, so why does cycling take so long for get out of the dark ages.
Mate, that mouse clicking 😂 Please get some quiet ones.
I will not stand for the tug buddy erasure. Leknessund and his tug buddies put in a valiant effort on Stage 2 of Algarve
What happened to your hands LR. Get weel soon
He literally said in that pod - binned it when cycling
Excuses. Martinez beats him twice.
"they have to drop Tomorrow"... Come on guys, not literally.....
First
1:24:48 Benji "in some shape or form" Naesen, try "somehow","in some manner", "in some odd circumstance". Other 2 expressions you use a lot are "mate" (dude, bro, Patrick) and "i reckon" (think, suppose, figure). I reckon you have to fix it, mate, in some shape or form :D
Evenepoel is not even the best Belgian climber. Cian already dominates him tbh
Where did Cian dominate Remco?
I would not agree but Vuelta he was better
Definitely not yet. Maybe more consistent (partially due to circumstances), but Remco definitely is still the better climber. Now compared at same age, yes Cian is better and maybe he'll become better than Remco if his progress doesn't plateau too soon, that is still to be seen.
Like what climbs has Cian dominated/won on?