The DEFINITIVE GUIDE to the Dwemer - How They Became GODS - Elder Scrolls Lore
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
3:05 - The Dwarves
5:07 - Their Origins
13:04 - Nord, Redguard, and Dwemer Magic
16:16 - Tonal Architecture
23:30 - Dwemer Technology
26:53 - Ebony, Lava, Lorkhan, & Creation
32:51 - The Daedric Princes & Dwemer Spirituality
41:29 - THE DOOM DRUM
43:22 - Kagrenac's Plan
47:18 - Kagrenac's Tools & Numidium
51:37 - Morrowind
54:32 - Rourken, Volendrung, Malacath
57:17 - The Fall of the First Council
1:07:46 - The Battle of Red Mountain
1:16:56 - Vivec, Almalexia, Sotha Sil
1:22:06 - Ashlanders
1:23:40 - Dagoth Ur
1:24:40 - Wulfharth
1:28:53 - 36 Lessons of Vivec
1:36:42 - The Disappearance of the Dwarves
1:55:06 - Were the Dwarves Orcs?
1:59:36 - The Falmer & the Elder Scrolls
2:16:06 - THE BRASS GOD. THE UNMAKER OF TAMRIEL
2:31:56 - Did the Dwemer Doom the Aurbis? - Hry
When Nirn needed him most…he returned to bless us with an absolute behemoth of a video.
Whenever I start to wonder if he's gone forever we get another gift.
I’m pretty sure he figures out when the world needs him most he uploads.
@@Vicstier rumour has it he’s a shezzarine.
I get the excitement but man, a comment almost exactly like this is literally under every upload of any youtuber with a long release schedule
@@BarteG44 ok. And? Support your creators. Would you like me to write a thesis on how great Drewmora’s videos are because I can certainly do that. Or, alternatively, I can do a quick message appreciating the hard work he’s done. I’m trying to follow the community guidelines and be respectful in my reply.
I used to teach literature, poetry, fiction etc… so take it from me: you’re a marvelous and captivating narrator. Please don’t stop making videos. In this cold and increasingly dull world, your talent is a much needed.
Honestly so gleeful he branched out alone. He was being held back by the constraints of the community he was built up in originally. This channel is incredible.
I wish I could write like this...
I have the creativity, my friends love it but I lack the writing /poetic skills that Drew has.
He has amazing skills, wish I had them myself as well.
@@marilynlucero9363practice makes perfect
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*Sotha Sil* _"You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains. Even gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."_
Almost sounds like Yagram was saved through some sort of divine intervention
@@JayWhipp1e Or left alone in the Arena Mundus, when his peers achieved CHIM
Likely the gods themselves sought to convolute the absolution of Numidium. Who knows if Yagrum would have pushed Numidium's capabilities just one infinite step too far.
No one:
Drewmora: Missing in action for over two months, suddenly releases an amazing almost three hours long very throuough exposition on the Dwemer, refuses to elaborate, and leaves (presumably, back with the Dwemer).
Art takes times, and this mf is an artist of words.
The Dwemer did nothing wrong. They made a walking calamity capable of unmaking the world, sure. But they were gonna use it responsibly. Honest.
Dwemer: Trust me bro, I always use my artificial gods responsibly.
@@ClockworkBlade It's not a war crime if nobody exists to complain about it.
Then they divided themselves by 0 and became undefined.
@@jtjames79 Israel be like
They also enslaved and devolved an entire race of elves not for any reason other than they COULD.
Drew is such a good writer. His concept organ is alight with aedric wisdom.
Don’t you just hate it when you’re almost done devising a clockwork god but then a bunch of angry vikings attack your volcano base so you hit the heart of a god with a hammer in a last ditch attempt to escape and then cause your entire race to vanish?
I thought the Nords attack on Red Mountain was long before the disappearance of the Dwemer.
Yeah... Shit's almost as bad as stubbing your toe, and happens nearly as frequently to me, I swear... smdh
@@ximthedespot4673 yeah
@@ximthedespot4673 after
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Nah the Nords have their own story of the battle at Red mountain. They were told by Voryn Dagoth about the heart of Lorkhan. Ysmir Wulfhearth was blasted into ash by Vivec. Can't remember the source, might have been Songs of King Wulfhearth or something
Two Things:
Thing 1) Does anyone else find it weird that when Nerevar told Dumac to "give up your worship of the Heart of Lorkhan" Dumac claimed that worshiping the Heart was a tradition of his people dispite the fact Dumac supposedly had no idea that Kagrenac had found it? Did the Dwemer worship Lorkhan? And if so, have the other Elven races(primarily the Dunmer/Chimer) covered that up?
Thing 2) Can we please have the next of Vivvek's sermons?
It seems reasonable that they could held some amount of reverence for Lorkhan's heart (the doom-drum providing the ultimate background for all tonal magicks), and could even have been searching for the heart.
It’s also possible that Dumac was simply pissed that as he saw it, Nerevar was attempting to get the Dwemer to worship the Chimer’s gods. He heard Nerevar say give up your ways and so he refused in anger
Isn't the special armour of the dwarves like frequency or vibrationally atuned well attuned to what perhaps lorkhans heart which is why they where able to move the earth aka lorkhans dominion and ofc i believe they found the heart via vibrations
I don't think it was "worship" in the way the other races view it. More like a "reverence" of the Heart's power and the abilities it granted them via its blood (the lava) for their creations.
Dumac would have had no reason to refer to the "Worship of the Heart of Lorkhan" as something his people had done for "generations", since the Heart was only recently discovered and its discovery was kept secret from him by Kagrenac.
Keep it up, Drew. You’re doing more for the lore than Bethesda ever will now
The daedric prince of lore and storytelling Drewmora always give us a great relic like videos that makes you travel to tamriel in spirit
Drew being a Prince and this being his Sphere makes all the damn sense.
Look up Terrance Mckenna's writings on "Machine/Clockwork Elves". Kirkbride and Kulhman are both fans of Mckenna's and the dwemer are partially inspired by these "clockwork elves" that apparently exist and communicate to us through incoherent tones and music (tonal architecture) when we take psychedelics.
Which psychedelics? Mckenna's favorite. The psilocybin mushroom. Now look up Mckenna's concept of the "heroic dose". Where one takes a very high dosage in complete darkness. Mckenna said the sensory deprivation allows the mushrooms to "unbind" your ego from the material and allow you to transcend and discover the nature of reality.
Now read Calcelmo's stone again.
You now know what the Dwemer were trying to do with the falmer. It was an attempt to somehow unbind them from the earthbones through blindness and possibly other experiments.
Typical druggie brainfry then.
Great comment! That "unbind from the earthbones" gave me the same idea about what kind of experiments the Dwemer did to them, but that connection to the mushrooms and the "heroic dose" is amazing.
Perhaps this explains the current nature of the Falmer, some aspect of their consciousness or soul was unbound through mushrooms and/or tonal magic, while the husks remain to lurk in the caverns.
Perhaps the Falmer were a failed experiment. They tried to see if transcendence could be reached alchemically and tested it out on the Snow Elves.
One minor correction; the machine elves are met in the DMT trance, not the mushroom trance
"lifted his skinny fists like antennas to aetherius" I see that GYBE reference bud
The Dwemer making their own Earthmover:
You are fantastic. Not only as a writer, but also as a narrator. You truly shine in these videos and we are lucky to have you as our Daedrologist.
I am so glad you are back Drew. You truly are an elder scrolls historian.
Already liked and saved to a play list before it even started. Just one of thsoe things you know. The sky is blue, a mountain is strong, and a Drewmora video is gonna come out with the highest of quality. Keep up the amazing work my guy 😎👍 you've got something great here.
Took me days to chip away at this video (apologies), but I have to say that it's some of the best work I've seen on Elder Scrolls lore. You've come a long way Drewston!
Great to see you post again. You are a master storyteller and an inspiration.
If only Drew could write TES6's story and dialogue it would be such a transcendent experience. I honestly believe he and Fudgemupptet know more about and have a great amount of respect for the Elder Scrolls world and lore than Bethesda. Great video.
Just when I needed some lore in my life. Thanks Drew, you are achieving apotheosis with this work!
I use your videos to fall asleep, but sometimes they're too well made for me to drift off. You're an absolute treasure Drew.
The Dunmer and Dwemer really seem to be set up as opposite another superficially but the same under the surface, truly being 2 sides of the same coin, so if the dunmer made armour out of the bodies of mortals, it would stand to reason, their opposite halves would make armour infused with souls.
You have it….the Kel…..the new CZcams video….my spare time shudders at its approach
Bro is mantling Kirkbride.
I have been craving elder scrolls, and binging any different lore videos I could find. This is perfect 👍
I think I have heard of the theory that the Falmer were forced to read the elder scrolls before, but it really does seem like it could be the most logical explanation for their transformation with the Dwemer.
Excellent video as always, you never disappoint 😌👌
2:23:33 "And the divines cannot highlight it and enter the kill command..."
Have they tried highlighting it and then "disable"-ing it, though?
A two and a half hour video on the Dwemer?! And it’s not even my birthday. Thank you Drew, you bless us with quality content once again~ 😭
Great Drewmora, Doomdrummer, we await your return with our arms and hands held high like antennas pointing to aetherus.
Sees notification for new Drewmora video
Sees it’s 2 and a half hours long
Calls off work
Settles in for the lore
This is the way
2 and a HALF HOURS??? No wonder you were gone for so long. Hell yeah bro, can’t wait to listen
*BOLD* & Phresh is Sotha Sil's clothing line.
Thank Shor, you are here i thought we lost our favourite daedrologist, welcome back Drewmora.
Oh thank The Nine! I got worried after a month of silence. An hour long video about some of my favorite mysteries? Worth the wait. ALWAYS worth the wait. Beautiful storytelling. Thank you for your continued amazing work.
Im wondering, if boethiah and her fellow good daedra claim that the mundus was a test for mortals to become makers (gods?), wouldn't that mean the dwemer, who found a way to be gods through there "wit" actually accomplished what they wanted mortals to do. And if so wouldn't that make what azura did kinda contradict the good daedra's whole goal?
It's an interesting point, maybe the good daedra thought the Dwemer where "doing it wrong".
The Chimer idea of the ascension isn't simply mortals becoming gods, returning to the Aurbis, but going beyond, to achieve the same enlightenment as Lorkhan did when he stepped outside and saw the Tower. Therefore, they view the Mundus as a puzzle-box, that by opening they can learn true enlightenment.
Maybe they viewed the Dwemers approach as taking to that puzzle-box with hammer and saw, ignoring the puzzles and destroying it entirely. Maybe.
(And if they did have this view, maybe they where wrong, as Vivec apparently achieved Chim, a form of this enlightenment, through Kagrenacs tools and the Heart, plus the Dwemer potentialy zero-summing from the same thing. But then what of Numidium?)
The king of the Chad Long Format Elder Scrolls Content has returned!
Genuinely some of the highest quality video essays on all of CZcams. Brilliant as always.
This is gold. Been putting this video before sleep for 4 days and i'm not even half way through.
Mr. Drew, I'm so glad you are back. I will respect your privacy and not ask about your absence but know that I was concerned. You have a very loyal following. If you ever doubted that, please read all those who posted below. Thank you for your detailed telling of the Dwemer. Your lore videos are always of interest. Thank you, Sir, I am grateful you have returned and for the deep dive you provided.
1:46:37. This section right here is why most of us who still love science after school love it. We know so little, and there's so much more to discover!!!! The majesty and power of the universe can be ours if we can only study and understand it!!!!! And technically the stars are our gods cos that's where the elements come from!!!!!!! Not all, but definitely most of the ones necessary for life.
Your monologue on your ideas that combine the spiritual and cosmological substance of this experience we call consciousness was something profound. Really brought a whole different level of value to this video. What a treat that was brother.
After years of TES lore, this is the first time I've understood the Dwemer concept of how space-time-reality is on a continuum, that unmaking and uncreation are simply returning mortal material back to the other end of that continuum. Delicious. 😎💛
Thank you Drew, I have gone through this whole thing multiple times, this is the best dwemer lore video on youtube, looking forward to next similar sized projects.
2 hours and 40 mins of a video... and im not afraid to say its my 4th time playing it.
I was looking for Elder Scrolls lore books not long ago. They are somewhat limited and not comprehensive. You have an amazing talent and real love for this material. There is no question you should be hired to write the Elder Scrolls Almanac
I finally got around to this one and I've got to say it's an absolute masterpiece, everything you put out is great but I hope you're extra proud of this one. Very much looking forward to another year of Drewmora!
This was excellent! I listened while working and the part at the end was a cool and unexpected way to close the video. Nice work
Drew tysm, going through it right now and having some lore from my favourite daedrologist is a bit of an emotional life jacket! Hope you and yours are all good.
2.5 hrs on my favourite elder scrolls topic let’s fucking go Drew
Fantastic video as always Drew. As much as I want to know the mystery behind the Dwemer, not knowing and theorizing is more fun lol.
Thanks Dragonberry! Yeah, Bethesda were kind to give us these mysteries so we could entertain ourselves for all the eras before ES6
Post starfield it’s almost bittersweet to see these videos. It’s so clear that company is not what it once was, but what they once created is so priceless.
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been enjoying it for a week through actively listening and learning from it, and using it to fall asleep at night. Your channel is one of the best! Thank you so much for your videos and the sleep you’ve helped me obtain. I’ll be sad when you can’t make videos anymore, or when you decide to stop. I hope you get all the support you want and need. I’ve been in love with your channel for about a year now. Always looking forward to the next video.
Edit: This video was definitely worth the wait!
this video was amazing! you're writing is also an inspiration, the way you word and discuss the things in these videos inspires me to continue writing
And so Dremora inquires upon the magnificence of an ancient, Aldmeri race. Always a pleasure Drew, keep up the solid content man, doing great.
Also, for anyone interested;
- My theory on the Dwemer appearance on Tamriel was that they, like the Ancient Falmer, were two branches of Aldmer who had evolved into their perspective environments. The Group of Aldmer who lived in Altmora; The Elderwood who managed to be on the Tamrielic side of the sundering of the Continent.
It is said that Lorkhan (and as we know, Kyne and her Nords) "shattered that land into many. Auriel could not save Altmora, the Elderwood, and it was lost to men. They chased south and east into Old Ehlnofey"
So, my idea is that Skyrim is the last, disconnected part of Altmora, the Elven Kingdom in the Dawn Era that was lost to Lorkhan and his Wandering Ehlnofey armies. It's why the Snow Elves say that Skyrim was their home, but the Nords claim that it's theirs cause they were born on the Throat of the World. It makes a lot of sense that it was all one kingdom/region before the Supercontinent was broken apart, and Auriel could only manage to keep the "Skyrim part" from drifting away.
Kyne basically spawned the Nords right in the middle of an Elven Kingdom to help the Wandering Ehlnofey armies take those Aldmer lands. Lorkhan wanted to keep this victory and so wanted to split Old Ehlnofey and Altmora from one another, with Skyrim being the only part that was saved.
Over time, the few Aldmer left on Altmora (now Atmora) were slain by the Nords and Nedes up there, and the opposite probably happened in Skyrim till the Aldmer and Humans came to an impass. (Which is why Nedes lived in Southern Skyrim and at peace with the Snow Elves, cause as far as the Elves were concerned, the war was over once the Et'Ada were done slaying each other.)
The Aldmer in Skyrim then either chose to keep up the Aldmeri way, and live on the surface and utilize the light of Aetherius and the Aedra to guide their lives, whereas the other Aldmer kinda just stuck to "the Old Ways" like the Psyjic Order, who don't venerate the Et'Ada as "Gods", just "particularly special spirits". Which is in line with how the Dwemer eventually became known to be a race who didn't worship the Gods like most everyone else nowadays.
This is why they never went to war with one another, they still respected one another as Elves from the same stock to NOT want too wage war... till the Dwemer became more and more distant and cold to all others but themselves and even to just being close to their own city-states. Whereas the Snow Elves tolerated Humans and let them live freely as long as they didn't do anything stupid.
Unfortunately, this dichotomy of reasonable, trustworthy Snow Elves and the Uncaring/Distant Dwemer eventually led to the Snow Elves allowing Saarthal to be built, and later on making a deal of survival with the Dwemer. Neither ended well for the Ancient Falmer of Skyrim.
Man I hope you never stop making these videos. They’re so good and every time I listen I feel like I’ve been transported into your library in Tamriel.
Been waiting for months for a new lore video. 2 plus hours!! I see why. Keep it up Drew! 💯
Didn't expect to be edging this old rabbit hole, but yeah, TES Ultron's got a Dwemercide paint job. MK confirmed it (unambiguously, for once) in a forum post a long time ago. Then again, maybe he was channeling Vivec post-trial. Who knows? Also, to expand a little on CHIM; it's a bit like a quasi-literal fourth wall break. In the most literal sense, it's NPCs accessing the creation kit (see: Tiber Septim terraforms Cyrodiil). In conclusion, it's cool af concept bro.
Lastly, in my heart of hearts, I really hope that the Numidium is the avenging spirit of the Doom Drum.
p. s. The Snow Elf-Elder Scroll connection? That tracks. Solid theory. Subscribed.
1:21:26 okay but when sotha sil gathered azura and ate her up by calling her an inconstant spirit😂
I just want to say thank you Drew. For a couple months recently I was really struggling with my mental health, I was at a pretty low point, but every single night I'd take a long bath and put one of your videos on and just be transported to another world for awhile. For at least an hour a night I could forget about my issues. I finished watching all of your videos in no time flat. I'm doing better now, but I'm excited to see more.
Thanks Drew, your vids always keep me sane at work. Gotta love some interesting, in-depth white noise.
Drew, your videos are amazing! Keep at it, your fans are patient and we are always willing to consume a new video that you produce!!
Happy new year, Drew! I don't know how I missed this in my feed, but glad I found it. Your stuff is always high-quality.
By far the best video on this channel. Thank you for the hard work. This is one of my favorite topics in the elder scrolls.
Dude the Godspeed reference at the beginning lmao, excellent work.
I'm going to listen to this everyday this year
I really hope we get to see the numidium in the next tes 6, super unlikely but I’d love a final battle at the admantine tower where you (the player character and all the friends and hero’s you meet throughout the game) stand with the direnni elves against the thalmor. The thalmor try to walk the brass god towards the final tower in an attempt to uncreate the Mundas, and you must figure out a plan or device to stop the end of the universe.
It seems like theyre trying to distance themselves from a lot of the kirkbride era lore, but that would be cool if it did happen!
Really good video that included a lot of information. Maybe bordering into other territories a bit but thanks for the good work, drew
So stoked that we got this amazing video. Literally a damn movie! Youre so awesome Drew!
I was bummed when you left fudgemuppet but I just came across your channel this is the first video of yours I watched, glad to see you’re still doing this awesome content
Dwemer might not come back from the oblivion, but fortunatly Drew did!
In the most auspicious of days, he returns.
Even when hell’s breaking over and life may seem like it’s all over, in comes the Daedrologist.
Thank you, Drew, for yet another Masterpiece.
The heart laughed. It got revenge. The dwemer betrayed themselves. That heart which was once ripped from Lorkhan in turn rips the heart of the Dwemer from the race.They have left behind their undesirable selves. The beastial, the tribal, the grounded rock kin.
Dwemer may be the children of the academic trinimac, the closest to truth and the strongest in mind; synergy. They are also clever, manipulative, ambitious, the opportunistic and striving-to-survive. In this way they are a symphony that emulates not just Trinimac, but the entire story. They are the legacy.
In this manner, the Orsimmer complete (?) the take with their direct acknowledgement and worship of Malacath. They are what became of the anuic animus of the dwemer. It is not quite a shezzarine as much as a scar left from the healing of the rip that used to be Dwemer. But these mythic/dawn stories like to echo. The dwemer architecture and proofs still exist, so to some degree, I believe it is not a true zero sum. A zero sum of the conscious, sure. But not of all the context. The context is what makes the Orsimmer who they are.
The Nordic connections are interesting, I haven't thought about that too much.
Fraudian slip of the universe is the misnomer "dwarf-orc". The phonetic power of words is significant, with all vibrations in the universe.
Also, Orc settlements and Dwemer cities are found in the same geographic areas. An orsimmic dream surrounds the mystery of the dwarves.
(I am opinionated on it, imo, it's a fun thing! Thank you for the lovely video & I regularly fall asleep to your content. You present as enchanting as the source material!)
Thank Azura you are still with us. I grew worried when it went quiet i used to love all the lore videos you did especially useful while on night shifts.
Love your work. Your writing style combined with the music and narration is so awesome.
Happy holidays / merry Christmas 🎄🎁 / happy new year Drew this is a pleasant surprise ive been longing for your content & you drop this behemoth thankyou my friend 💙
THANK YOU. Your content has helped me focus, study, escape & relax more than you could ever realize. I can't wait to watch your videos once the next saga in TES comes out!!!
Thank you so much for your support, Karion, it means a lot. I'm so glad the content resonates with you
Wonderful narration, I love to listen these while journeying across Skyrim or other modded lands and take in the sights while the narration goes, no combat, just listening and walking, it's definitely therapeutic, we can only hope Bethesda can bring their best for the next game's writing, considering Starfield well...only time will tell.
Keep up the amazing work Drew, your voice is the narration of the entire Elder Scrolls in my head cannon.
I've never related so much to something like the personal speech about your view on how science took the magic of life from you I've never been able to put the right words to that feeling but you did it with such poise and it caught me off guard, truly beautiful
Thanks. Your videos are wonderful. Myth and fantasy lore are my favorite subjects. Elder Scrolls is one of the best. Your oration and passion for this world is unrivaled in providing atmosphere and education in the subjects you delve into.
This video is awesome. Thank you for posting it Drew
This is a glorious video. Thank you for all your efforts Drew
Yay always excited to get another one even if your just audiobooking it love the delivery keeps me interested in the lore I prefer elder scrolls but your others have been awesome as well
Awesome to still being see new Elder Scrolls content from you, keep it up!
I like to imagine that the Dwemer ended up in a higher plane with a higher being saying "*tch tch* you guys really messed up"
"bro stay tf outta there, you're gonna break it"
See, I took the ethos knife and axe line to be something of a metaphor akin to jobs with hats. Nerevar took off his warrior hat (the axe) and put on his philosopher hat (the knife) and began contemplating ethics as a philosopher instead of doing his job as a warrior. This pissed off ALMSIVI because they were trying to capitalize on the opportunity of the moment and not worry about the ethics of the situation because stealing fire from the gods could pay dividends for the Dunmer as a whole. Not sure how this plays into City Face’s story though.
Also Sotha Sil’s “Inconstant Spirit” line is legit my favorite put down or the Daedric Princes ever. I love using that
Happy new year Drew, I've been missing your videos, so happy a new one is out 😍
Thank you, Drewmora for another bit of brilliance. This one wondered if you would ever think of uploading the audio tracks as a pseudo-podcast? It would love to be able to listen to your videos whilst driving, hiking etc.
Drew my man never stop, these videos are pure happiness to listen to
Maaaaaaan you have NO idea how much I needed this to help negate my growing listless desire to partake in any TES gameplay recently. Like a little time after the Halloween event in ESO, my interest began a sharp and steep taper down with the repetitious monotony of the holiday seasonal events.
But like finding an animated video depicting the initial reaction to the first release of Skyrim that's told through the melodic parody of the iconic music of is start screen, your video has given me an energizing of what we all love so much from this series . 😁 I can't be grateful enough for all the work you put in to entertain us.
I am a researcher of steam and locomotion. I am just now starting to enjoy stories of the Dwemer and would love to become a full fledged dwemerologist. Do you, by chance have any sage advice for a newcomer in this wonderful field? Great video.
A viewer is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
Great video as always Drew❤
This is amazing my guy. I cannot express how greatful I am for your videos. Thank you.
These longer videos help me fall asleep. I love the narration, voice and the music
Yesss, 2hs+ of Drewmorrowinding! Gods be praised
I’m amazed by the quality of your long form content. I loved fudgemuppet lore but it always felt to short and contained. You’ve mastered the formula obviously
amazing video as always!! keep up the good work ❤
oh man this is a hefty one. thank you so much for these
Bottle of Viking Blood Danish mead? Check.
Supermarket block cheese? Check.
Package of salami? Check.
Yep, it’s drewmora time.
Absolutely fantastic video Drew, top job. During my current playthrough of Skyrim AE, on a couple of occasions I have seen the ghostly Headless Horseman running like hell after his horse! Lol. Best regards Gary.
I'm so excited to learn about a fascinating topic from such a well read daedrologist.
I love your stuff so much. It is just so enveloping. like getting lost in the music and wilderness of Nirn....back when things were simpler.