Thanks a lot Mark. I'll be able to finish my heads now. I'll be trying to replicate this tomorrow. That will leave me with one completed head and one to go. Creating the venturi on the one side of the bowl and getting the short turns is the trickiest part. I'm going to print up some screen shots for the final pull on this head. I took these off the shelf just because of this series. Very inspirational. Love it.
Great job on Videos always awesome. I would still like a real comparison with same valve diameter to have a real life gain on porting without changing the valve side or even and or, change valve with no porting and flow to see the gain. These are just suggestions I would like to start porting heads I watch videos but I think I would start with someone with experience by my side! Thanks again and keep doing your great job!
Mark + Tommy, I have been home a few days with the flu, and been catching up on your video's. I am very impressed by your articulation and thoroughness of the content you are providing. I think that by the build and test on the strip segments, you have earned my business as a first time customer. It's refreshing to witness real world testing unlike some of the other SoCal Dyno cells. I will be reaching out soon to source a new BBC. Keep up the good work, it definitely does not go unnoticed! Dan from NorCal
Awesome video series guys! This info is tremendous! Thank you for taking time from your busy schedule to share this stuff. Want to try this on my closed chambered exhausts. My engine really noses over past 6500 too.
You’re porting the heads to try to gain airflow when your problem is very likely that the hyd lifters are collapsing at the higher RPM. 6300+ is always a stumbling block with the hyd lifters these days. Installing solid lifters on that same hyd roller profile probably would have probably pulled much higher before falling off. I’ve made 625hp /625Tq on 496’s with 2.125”/1.75” valves and no porting on those heads, with a mild cam and pump gas.
Hey Mark, Do you care to show us the exhaust valve you use in this head...? When it comes to the exhaust, the shape of (the back side of) the valve is as much a part of the port as the port itself...
Mark what are the flow number for the intake side? Any where close to 330cfm at 500? I’m building a 467 with 781 heads and a tunnel ram with 660 holleys.
Mark, I saw that you scribed out a mark on the head of the chamber. Is that scribe mark the actual head gasket size or the cylinder size? Great video and I hope you get paid dearly for sharing all this information with us.
I have a 94 ,454 engine. Is the iron heads worth working for a street performance build. Mild porting, and converting the rockers? I'd like to swap in a mild cam, i already got a performer rpm airgap intake and long tube headers , should be 330, 340 hp. And 440 tq. I have seen a equal engine a dyno. I want to keep the lower compression , maybe add a turbo. I hope to have 600 hp & tq on tap. for possible daily decent mpg (for a BBC!) 15 mpg in town , maybe hyper mile about 25mpg on the long roads! I have overdrive. About 3.08, and about 5,000 lbs... Should I just look in to a set of older oval ports. Or can these be worked? And with about 10psi... Great video. I don't know that much about the newer BBC stuff. I'm at home with SBC stuff.. Thanks
all said and done how much would a pair your ovalport heads cost after you selected the ones with the least amount of core shift redid the valve guides and ported the cylinder heads opened up the valves for the new valves seats you did all that good stuff valve springs new valves how much is all that cost let's have a number for a pair of heads overport ones from you please
the reason I'm asking how much you spent on your cylinder heads because I built a motor myself before 68th that's all it was then I used aftermarket cast iron cylinder heads on it because at the time I could not find any factory square Port hits I had a total of $1,500 in my world product grumpy Jenkins cast iron square Port heads how much did your heads cost did I spend too much because we know how much your heads give you your horsepower I want to know how much you spend on them heads to get that horsepower and I never sent you hate mail I think you misunderstood it send it back to me in this text so I can please respond because talk to text on my phone does not always put down what I say oh yeah my 468 cubic inch big black Chevy made 735 horse and yes I had way more than 9.9 to one compressor
dragginwagon406 so in theory unless it’s a dedicated strip car it’s not really worth doing any more than a clean up port if you were to retain stock valves?
@@Spudderr, depends on how you look at it...for several hours of research and a few hours with a die grinder, you can pick up 40 hp. In my book, that's mandatory. Add 2.19/1.88 valves, and porting done right, the difference can be 100+ hp obviously much more power available, if the rest of the combination is on point.
Mark I see some guys claiming a cam with a higher duration and valve lift on the exhaust side (more lift and due at 50 than the intake) that you are leaving power on the table. If that’s so then why do so many cam companies run a dual pattern design . This is for stock heads, 781 to be exact. I. Running s lunati solid 247/255 612/ 635 lift would I be giving up power in my iron head 10.5 to 1 467 ...?
There is so many factors, big cam grinders are trying to cover as many people as possible, to get the most out of your setup always go with a custom grind, and yeah afr 265 heads with the cnc porting are the best aftermarket head in that cc range available, but you might talk to Tony mammo of mammo motorsports first, he helped make all those afr heads work so well
Everybody works on Ls1 engines these days Haha there is heaps of info out there mate just have to look for similar application as what you are aiming for. Most engine builders dont go outside of what is common because it's not necessary. I actually didnt have some factory parts and had no choice in going a different direction. I'm far from a engine builder but there is plenty enough info out there for the ls1. Practiaclly everything done in a backyard shed or under my house except head machining. Aiming for a reliable and cool running 430hp at the wheels with the ability to get 470+ on a leaner air fuel mix. In case I end up in a traffic jam I'd rather more fuel being dropped on the piston so it definitely wont over heat which seems to be relatively common with most of the mods I have done. Bottom end is standard except the cam and oil pump. If you are keen to know what I have done or if you have any questions I can help with let me know, I really dont mind. As I said I'm no engine builder but know a few and they are very excited about the fact I didnt listen to their advice of doing the same as everyone else. Ls1 is a easy and cheap motor to get reliable power from especially doing it yourself. Porting the heads is probably the hardest part to do yourself but that's one thing done on mine that engine builders and even a professional head port shop owner was extremely impressed with on mine. Research and confidence to have a go yourself is key mate. Bit of thinking outside the box never hurt anyone that bad it's just wise to get advice on what you are keen to try. If they tell you its unnecessary or pointless ask why and if it's going to be better than not doing it at all. At the end of the day it's the tuning that makes it work and he will need to know as much info as you can give him.
Thanks a lot Mark. I'll be able to finish my heads now. I'll be trying to replicate this tomorrow. That will leave me with one completed head and one to go. Creating the venturi on the one side of the bowl and getting the short turns is the trickiest part. I'm going to print up some screen shots for the final pull on this head. I took these off the shelf just because of this series. Very inspirational. Love it.
Mark your videos are very informative. Thanks
Great job on Videos always awesome. I would still like a real comparison with same valve diameter to have a real life gain on porting without changing the valve side or even and or, change valve with no porting and flow to see the gain. These are just suggestions I would like to start porting heads I watch videos but I think I would start with someone with experience by my side! Thanks again and keep doing your great job!
This really helped me with my 460 build. Thnx. Bud.
Mark + Tommy, I have been home a few days with the flu, and been catching up on your video's. I am very impressed by your articulation and thoroughness of the content you are providing. I think that by the build and test on the strip segments, you have earned my business as a first time customer. It's refreshing to witness real world testing unlike some of the other SoCal Dyno cells. I will be reaching out soon to source a new BBC. Keep up the good work, it definitely does not go unnoticed! Dan from NorCal
Thanks for the info you guys gave us in all the videos!!!
Great series! Appreciate your sharing this invaluable information. Looking forward to seeing more. Thanks.
Very nice. Good views also. I have learned quite a bit watching this series. Thank you soo much. You are a boss
Nice job. Great informative video
Great video!!
Excellent Video with the cut head. Wish someone into BB Mopars made such a video.
Awesome video series guys! This info is tremendous! Thank you for taking time from your busy schedule to share this stuff. Want to try this on my closed chambered exhausts. My engine really noses over past 6500 too.
Whats your cam and valvetrain setup?
Hi Derek. 396+.060, 250/260 @ .050 .685/.685 108Lsa solid roller. Closed chamber forget number similar to 215 though. 2.06/1.72 3/8 stem valves. Bowl ported only, 3 angle vj 30 deg back cut intakes. 1.625 vs 230# seat, don't know open press. 3/8 .080 wall pushrods, 1.7 roller rockers. Approx 12:1. Single plane intake, 800 holley, Very strong torque 5500-6500 but falls off very quickly. 7000 shift. 7.39 @ 92.7 best 1/8. 3830# chevelle 4.11 approx 5000 stall 26 tire 3" full exhaust . Thx for interest.
You’re porting the heads to try to gain airflow when your problem is very likely that the hyd lifters are collapsing at the higher RPM. 6300+ is always a stumbling block with the hyd lifters these days.
Installing solid lifters on that same hyd roller profile probably would have probably pulled much higher before falling off.
I’ve made 625hp /625Tq on 496’s with 2.125”/1.75” valves and no porting on those heads, with a mild cam and pump gas.
You are correct. This particular engine received a solid flat tappet 250-260@ .050 ish if I recall .
Hey Mark,
Do you care to show us the exhaust valve you use in this head...?
When it comes to the exhaust, the shape of (the back side of) the valve is as much a part of the port as the port itself...
I was loving this series. Sad to see it go.
Were not done yet! Just been busy getting customer jobs done. There will be more videos in December.
PERFORMANCE ENGINE BUILDING 201 That’s great news Mark! 👍🏻
short tern radius and de-shrouding valves will do a lot.
Hope all is good with you. It's time for more footage! Lol
Any progress guys? Been anxiously waiting.
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Are you going to finish this series of awesome info on youtube?
Like your videos. Interested in some of the tooling used and where one can find them
Have you ever worked on Gen 6 L29 454 heads? They have big 'swirl' lumps in the intake runners.
Mark what are the flow number for the intake side? Any where close to 330cfm at 500? I’m building a 467 with 781 heads and a tunnel ram with 660 holleys.
Any plans to finish up the hi performance 454 build?
Specs or details of the upcoming Buick 455?
Mark, I saw that you scribed out a mark on the head of the chamber. Is that scribe mark the actual head gasket size or the cylinder size? Great video and I hope you get paid dearly for sharing all this information with us.
Scott Sigmon
Always scribe to the gasket you are using, which is what he did
If I'm correct, gasket is 1037 (steel fire ring, 4.370"). Be sure to add the holes in the early blocks.
I knew you needed less gear in that car, your mph told me that
I have a 94 ,454 engine. Is the iron heads worth working for a street performance build. Mild porting, and converting the rockers? I'd like to swap in a mild cam, i already got a performer rpm airgap intake and long tube headers , should be 330, 340 hp. And 440 tq. I have seen a equal engine a dyno. I want to keep the lower compression , maybe add a turbo. I hope to have 600 hp & tq on tap. for possible daily decent mpg (for a BBC!) 15 mpg in town , maybe hyper mile about 25mpg on the long roads! I have overdrive. About 3.08, and about 5,000 lbs... Should I just look in to a set of older oval ports. Or can these be worked? And with about 10psi...
Great video. I don't know that much about the newer BBC stuff. I'm at home with SBC stuff.. Thanks
I wander what kind of flow you could get out of a set 990 square port with 2.300 valves
all said and done how much would a pair your ovalport heads cost after you selected the ones with the least amount of core shift redid the valve guides and ported the cylinder heads opened up the valves for the new valves seats you did all that good stuff valve springs new valves how much is all that cost let's have a number for a pair of heads overport ones from you please
the reason I'm asking how much you spent on your cylinder heads because I built a motor myself before 68th that's all it was then I used aftermarket cast iron cylinder heads on it because at the time I could not find any factory square Port hits I had a total of $1,500 in my world product grumpy Jenkins cast iron square Port heads how much did your heads cost did I spend too much because we know how much your heads give you your horsepower I want to know how much you spend on them heads to get that horsepower and I never sent you hate mail I think you misunderstood it send it back to me in this text so I can please respond because talk to text on my phone does not always put down what I say oh yeah my 468 cubic inch big black Chevy made 735 horse
and yes I had way more than 9.9 to one compressor
Do you have the build video's of this engine
Have you ever ran the numbers for a stock sized valve ported head?
Just a ball park, I see many people claim to pick up .4 and 3-4 mph by porting with stock valve size. In theory, this is average 20 cfm improvement.
dragginwagon406 so in theory unless it’s a dedicated strip car it’s not really worth doing any more than a clean up port if you were to retain stock valves?
@@Spudderr, depends on how you look at it...for several hours of research and a few hours with a die grinder, you can pick up 40 hp. In my book, that's mandatory.
Add 2.19/1.88 valves, and porting done right, the difference can be 100+ hp obviously much more power available, if the rest of the combination is on point.
dragginwagon406 gotcha I’ll go ahead and go for it then. I don’t really have any way to get bigger valves cut due to no machine shops near. Thanks
He puts the flow numbers in the intake porting videos. Stock and modified.
Mark I see some guys claiming a cam with a higher duration and valve lift on the exhaust side (more lift and due at 50 than the intake) that you are leaving power on the table. If that’s so then why do so many cam companies run a dual pattern design . This is for stock heads, 781 to be exact. I. Running s lunati solid 247/255 612/ 635 lift would I be giving up power in my iron head 10.5 to 1 467 ...?
IF YOU PUT IN BIG VALVES AND PORT LIKE HE IS SHOWING YOUR GAIN WOULD BE TREMENDOUS. 60 +HORSPOWER. STOCK HEADS DO NOT LIKE THAT MUCH CAM.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 hey hank i plan on changing heads later anyway something like an afr 265 would work i think
There is so many factors, big cam grinders are trying to cover as many people as possible, to get the most out of your setup always go with a custom grind, and yeah afr 265 heads with the cnc porting are the best aftermarket head in that cc range available, but you might talk to Tony mammo of mammo motorsports first, he helped make all those afr heads work so well
I went to your web site but it is not up.Has the address changed? Do you do custom head work for the public? let me know..
Go the www.vortecpro454.com
Couldn't you run a slightly taller slick to change the gear ratio??
jim dandy absolutely if they will fit
I have a question do you work on LS1 engines too?
Everybody works on Ls1 engines these days Haha there is heaps of info out there mate just have to look for similar application as what you are aiming for. Most engine builders dont go outside of what is common because it's not necessary. I actually didnt have some factory parts and had no choice in going a different direction. I'm far from a engine builder but there is plenty enough info out there for the ls1. Practiaclly everything done in a backyard shed or under my house except head machining. Aiming for a reliable and cool running 430hp at the wheels with the ability to get 470+ on a leaner air fuel mix. In case I end up in a traffic jam I'd rather more fuel being dropped on the piston so it definitely wont over heat which seems to be relatively common with most of the mods I have done. Bottom end is standard except the cam and oil pump. If you are keen to know what I have done or if you have any questions I can help with let me know, I really dont mind. As I said I'm no engine builder but know a few and they are very excited about the fact I didnt listen to their advice of doing the same as everyone else. Ls1 is a easy and cheap motor to get reliable power from especially doing it yourself. Porting the heads is probably the hardest part to do yourself but that's one thing done on mine that engine builders and even a professional head port shop owner was extremely impressed with on mine. Research and confidence to have a go yourself is key mate. Bit of thinking outside the box never hurt anyone that bad it's just wise to get advice on what you are keen to try. If they tell you its unnecessary or pointless ask why and if it's going to be better than not doing it at all. At the end of the day it's the tuning that makes it work and he will need to know as much info as you can give him.
Do you sell a short block 454 620hp.?
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