@@ThatDopeShttt im not trying to be mean or hurt you're feelings but this is not what you want to be know for it's ok to not like something and tell people but sharing your opinion and hating are two different thing if this video blows up and this is what you get known off of you may not be happy with the kind of community you attract i can see how much you hate this man Eminem not only is it not healthy but you have to realize if you build a community on hatting they will be toxic i know you won't listen but you can't say no one warned you
@@ThatDopeShttt I'm a big fan of em, and yet I agree with basically everything you say here. Idk what this dudes issue is, he never even bothered to try saying why it makes no sense. He's just mad. I do think saying "straight trash" is a bit sensational and click-baity, because we can all agree, like you do in this video, that his technical ability is peak, as is his production and attention to detail in a mix, but he just doesn't make enjoyable or relatable music anymore. I think it'd be more accurate to say out-of-touch/corny or something. It just feels empty. He's like an autistic person that just put all his attention into nerding out on technical ability alone in his room, and lost touch of what makes a track actually hit someone
I literally feel the same way Iâm from Detroit and donât nobody around here Bang Eminem mf born and raised in warren and steadily claim hes from Detroit yet no one out here listens to him
Lol If you unironically use "bro" mid-sentence like it's a proper noun, I've got to assume you're Gen Z. In which case, you literally aren't allowed to have an opinion on rap. Beats? Go off, nobody cares. But generally speaking, your own tastes are too garbage and your own literacy too low to have allowed you any latitude to criticize. I'm talking about any lyricist, not necessarily just Eminem. We get it: you'd prefer he chug some cough syrup and say "gucci gang" or some shit 93x. It's *entirely* possible that he intentionally creates beats that he likes the sound of, as opposed to the same fruityloops snare/808 shit that is guaranteed to pump in the club, like Dot just did. In any event, "sonically unbearable" doesn't really track with what is objectively the most globally successful rap career of all time. Liking music/artists is subjective, but you're levying a criticism that necessarily *can't* be true based on publicly available objective statistics. So let's rewrite: "I don't like Eminem. That's my opinion! And it's one that is shared primarily by Benzino, Joe Budden, and... children." There you go! Easy-peezy. Now, bring it full circle, call me a "Stan" and tell me which one of the Migos bodies Em on a versuz. Edit: Lol I shit you not I hadn't read any further down the page, OP already copped out with the Stan shit the first time someone disagreed đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ąđ€ĄHow did people get THIS good at shitting on themselves đ€Łđ€Ł Called that shit to a T
Not only just Alchemist either. Em has the entire industry at his disposal. There's no reason that he can't get production from certified legends at the drop of a dime. DJ Premier, RZA, Dre, Kanye, Buckwild, etc. I guarantee if he reached out to any of these guys to produce his records, they'd do it. Yet he still comes with the most generic pop rock, and trap beats.
@@ThatDopeShttt "WHaT ComMunItY diD I bUiLd oFf of hAtiNg oN SomEOne", what are you looking for as a "youtuber" bru ? Aren't you trying to do so ? delusional đ
@@deadlockyt3644 nah bro you're right that what i was trying to tell him it's not a good idea to get known off hating on some one and again theirs a big difference between hating and just giving your opinion and he chose to hate it's not health
3 mins of straight up trash takes. Just a pressed jay z fan thinking that his washed up idol is better than eminem, Jay z is performing to rich white dudes while eminem is dropping hits while supporting local rappers.
In all actuality he's the worst rapper alive. I would rather listen to Elvis at this point. I'm not jealous, he could have a billion dollars, it doesn't change the fact that he's terrible
@@ThatDopeShttt You're def jealous af and it shows dude. You're a clown nothing more. Probably use to battle rap and thought he was actually good decided you'd make youtube videos about ppl you're jealous of in life.
I've felt this way since the relapse album; it's funny because he comes off as someone fighting the standard culture which kinda worked cause he had nothing to lose and actually said shit when he started, but now it seems he's too scared to lose everything and just pretends to be on the outskirts
Lmao, respect for being disruptive, these comments are hilarious. There used to be a rapper back in the day on youtube named Wyze Geye who said in a bar "Quit rapping about rapping and actually do it". That's kind of how I feel listening to Eminem but people love it. To me his last good album was Eminem Show but his first 3 albums are undeniable. He's like shrodingers rapper
I mean, you can say nowadays his songs are mostly trash, but I think there are still some great Em hits after Encore and during Encore. An example of a good Eminem song post-Encore could be the song "Beautiful" of "Deja Vu". Another great song could also be "Stepping Stone" or "Castle" and "Arose". Of course, you mentioned it, When I'm gone is another song that came out after Encore that's still great. "Never Enough" or "Yellow Brick Road" are even more examples. So, where I am trying to get here is that there are still a few great Em songs with emotion on them. The newest song, Tobey, wasn't as bad either since he wasn't trying to rap fast as on maaaany other of his newer songs. To say that Eminem is completely trash after Encore or Relapse is kind of an understatement, but it's not completely false.
I agree that Eminem fell off after MMLP 2. I've been a huge EM fan since I was kid but stopped listening to his newer music cause I felt like it was destroying his legacy. But with that being said let's not forget that Eminem in his prime was easily a top 5 rapper. Easily. Don't let recency bias make you forget this man dropped three straight classics in a row and out rapped anyone on his day in the early 2000s. I wish he retired in 2013 so people gave him more respect cause tbh hes ruining it for himself.
@@Chewemup1986 wash? Because he's saying a bunch of goofy shit that rhymes ??? Ok bro go do your homework, Nas actually says something while rhyming, and plus Nas is for the culture and one of the best, eminem is a silly ass trailer park ex drug addict culture vulture lol come on, I bet your white huh ?
I think recovery aged bad but at the time I appreciated hearing something with some semblance of a theme/ introspective lyrics (some lmao) after relapse lol
I'm a fan of him. he hits very hard and misses even harder, no in between I'm always unsure going into a song of his, he will always have a lot of bars but it comes down to whether they are corny or actually gud. Don't think he's trash but would understand when someone says he is because boy does he miss when he misses
Itâs crazy how you can listen to Ghostface killea a rapper who literally has schizophrenia and says stuff that means nothing but Eminem is trash yeah OKđ€Ł
@@ThatDopeShttt black hater hating on white rapper . You hate it since eminem is way above your black hiphop artist and noone knows your rapper internationally
Most of albums now are just diss albums nothing meaningful and i guess because im from the South ive never heard any of his music in a club or at a partyâ€
Straight trash, is quite the emotional statement while calling people here in the comments emotional (prolly some ragebaiting). His music changed for sure and loads of people dont like that, further on he raps to evolve his skill as a lyracist not to create the best club bangers. You can like that or not and miss the old Em which no way could be put out in todays culture as media wont accept it. But to label him as straight trash is bogus nonsense. I liked his earlier stuff way more too, but Music to be murdered by, b sides specificly is quite underrated.
Been wack since â04. If he actually captured that in-pocket flow and had some feeling/soul in his music today I would be all ears but heâs too far gone with this robotic flow and electronic bullshit production.
Good takes here. Eminem's mainstream fans are just kinda pathetic dudes under age of 15 or dudes over 40 who are stuck on listening same songs over and over again and circlejerk eachother.. Those dudes cannot even prove themselfs right instead go to usual braindead takes like"Dude who made this is just jealous he never made in life. you just jealous of his success" or you just hater". I like eminem as producer tho and he might be actually kind of underrated at that
Wayne, Jay, Kendrick, Nas, Busta, Tech N9ne, Crooked I, Royce, Lupe etc put Eminem in their top 5 list but I guess they are not as educated as you on this topic.
Em is still better than half of these new stars, mumble rappers, and people trashing him dont know better. Dont need to like him, but respect is the name of the game. Ofcourse, fot younger audiences respect is nonexistent.
He is better than everything you've covered on this channel COMBINED. TES doing more number than all these rappers entire discography combined. Americans live in a bubble.
He used to flow on verses and choruses like his voice was part of the beat, Now he just talks fast ontop of a beat if you get what I'm saying. It's like rather then caring about the song being catchy he just reads a page out of a book really fast overlayed on a beat. And i hate to say it but he has nothing to rap about now that he's off opiates, he really should've ended his career with Recovery/Relapse and it would've been legendary.
I agree with some points made but I can't agree with straight up calling him trash. Recovery was an incredible album, MMLP2 didn't live up to the first but he did his thing on there, Revival was pretty bad, Kamikaze was great I feel like he's held to a higher standard than anybody else... Eminem is trash but let's use Joe Budden's opinion to justify it lol... as if Joe Budden rode into the sunset dropping nothing but classics.
@@ThatDopeShttt isn't dumb out from 2005? Recovery is a great album and one of his highest selling so a lot of people agree. I did enjoy Mood Muzik 4 as well though.
I know this is probably the hottest take in these comments but i really enjoyed relapse lmao, probably because i like metal and darker themes. yeah it can be pretty cringey but its fun at the same time. But i listened to a lot of Em growing up but i honestly haven't had any interest in his new music past mmlp2 which was kinda more leaning into pop type songs. also, have you ever listened to Warcloud?
Valid points. I wasn't a fan of the eccentric vocals throughout Relapse, but if you're into horror core rap, I get it. Appreciate your input đŻ I never heard Warcloud, put me on!
@@ThatDopeShttt yeah thats fair the accents were kinda goofy, but Deja Vu is my favorite song off the album. And Warcloud is probably the least known member of Wu-Tang. One of his best verses is a feature on RZA's 'Bobby Digital in Stereo" on the song Holocaust (Silkworm). Warcloud had also gone by the name Holocaust, and his verse was so good that RZA just named the song after him. Some of my favorite tracks by him are: Smuggling Booze in the Graveyard, The Trap Door, and Sweeping Bullet Shells.
Idk what I dislike more Eminemâs music or his fans.. but I been done with dude after the Marshall mathers LP && even that one was a lil wild but I was a teenager now I would never listen to that album đđ€Ł Eminem is good enough for white ppl đ
I can list a dozen white rappers better than em lol. Merkules, yelawolf, ev, verb t, skinnyman, red pill, verbal Kent, your old droog, harry shotta, fliptrix, leaf dog.
â@@katyg3873nobody heard of those rappers yellawolf has said Eminem influenced him stop talking out of your ass it's time that y'all stop this obsession and move on I can't name a rapper that gets compilation which are 1 hours getting hated on move on and enjoy life don't listen to him y'all love to make a hate section about someone that gets hate for being good
imagine saying someone's trash just for views. I see what your doing not going to sub but i clicked. Your calling people Stans for saying your opinion doesn't matter? Really, I think the over all opinion matters more than just one persons. I mean your youtube is a good example of this 1.58k but only 766 views at this point with 36 likes. So most have dislike right? or just left laughing.
Is em a good rapper. Yes obviously. Is he the goat? Not in a million years. Is his music âgoodâ? As in sonically pleasing? Not in a million years. There are faster rappers- ocean wisdom and harry shotta. There are rappers with better breath control- abdominal (16 bars on one breath) There are rappers with better stories- roc, ka, Akala, j cole, skinnyman, There are rappers with better soliloquies and syntax- ka, Elzhi, ot the Mexican, rakim, ev, method man, verb t. Is there rappers with better emotion- yes. Merkules, verb t, Benny the butcher, Conway, leaf dog, ka. Em just isnât special /different anymore.
Even though I half agree with your reply feel like some of the people you mentioned you cannot compare to Eminem like how you comparing verb t and akala to Eminem? Eminem shits all over them Eminem changed the game especially when he was on form and can spin the people youâve listed ten times over. Eminem was the best of his era and a lot of people wouldnât even be into hip hop without him to not give the man his flowers and try say fucking verb t is a better artist is actually ridiculous what verb t track compares to any of Eminems older tracks literally none.
Em stans are like swifties in this comment section LOLđ€ĄđđŒââïžđ€Šââïž. Get hold of ur emotions geez. This is barbershop talk. Its hip hop like Jay-Z said ' im from where ninjas pull ur card & argue all day abt whos the best MCs, Biggie, Jay-Z or Nas.
If weâre using popularity as a metric for greatness then Drake is the goat by that standard đ Eminem has been dropping duds for years, Hovâs last album was great.
@@Red5ive What metric you're using? Jay ain't better than Em in any single aspect or metric. Em has a better discography, em a better MC, Em is more relevant, Em's cultural impact is way bigger than Jay.
@@Advaitamanta Iâll take Hovâs entire catalog over Emâs all day. Em had a 3 solid album run although I do prefer Eminem show over MMLP (more replay and less shock value). Hov has better flows, beat selection, I donât care about how relevant he is, that shouldnât be a factor here.
@@ThatDopeShttt I definitely understand where you're coming from. I also used to enjoy Em a lot back then but not so much now. I just feel you're exaggerating a bit
@@ThatDopeShttt at the end of the day it might all just come down to personal preference. A lot of people still would have him in their top 5 and you can't fault them for having that opinion based on what he's achieved
Haven;t heard a dope feature from eminem since renegade........... Forever? The man literally changes the bass line on his verse to coincide with "When I slap the taste outta your mouths with a bass so loud that it shakes the place" hold this L take lol Jay has DEF had weak albums after Reasonable Doubt. Let's not act like Vol 1-3 didnt have some at best mid songs on them. Black album is a masterpiece but anything after that is mid at best. Blueprint 1 was pretty solid but 2 wasnt as good they got a little experimental with beats on this album with songs like 2 Many Hoes, What they gonna do and Bounce. and blueprint 3 had a couple hot songs but front to back it's also mid. Dynasty had a BUNCH of features and lets be real Memphis bleek is kinda weak and jay put him on liek EVERYTHING Jay is one of my fav rappers but come on bro he's notorious for biting biggie lines "I say a big verse I'm only biggin up my brother" like this excuse works for a little bit but come on man lol ........ . You're allowed ur opinion but lets not ignore jay's faults. Also the list of rapper you put at the end is a joke right? Em put Redman over himself on Eminem Show, Royce has always been second to Em and lets not act like his albums haven't been lukewarm. Crooked I sure he can rap but another one with a lukewarm collection, Big L only released one album before he died ( like seriously?) Pharoahe Monch you couldnt even spell his name right so it really makes me question how much of a fan you are of him lol and we're considering the dude from the Roots as above em? your take is a big L :D
rap god is when i knew for sure. i had to hear that alot because i live in canada where people love trash rappers.
I've never been able to go past 30 seconds when I heard 'rap god'
@@ThatDopeShttt im not trying to be mean or hurt you're feelings but this is not what you want to be know for it's ok to not like something and tell people but sharing your opinion and hating are two different thing if this video blows up and this is what you get known off of you may not be happy with the kind of community you attract i can see how much you hate this man Eminem not only is it not healthy but you have to realize if you build a community on hatting they will be toxic i know you won't listen but you can't say no one warned you
@@thatonegreencat5611 it is literally not that deep
@@Meilk27 it is to him he made a whole ass video a bout why he hates a rapper im just trying to help
I still like the man he used to be
You're either trolling, looking for clicks or just a straight up hater, this video makes zero sense
How am I trolling when it's the truth?
@@ThatDopeShttt I'm a big fan of em, and yet I agree with basically everything you say here. Idk what this dudes issue is, he never even bothered to try saying why it makes no sense. He's just mad. I do think saying "straight trash" is a bit sensational and click-baity, because we can all agree, like you do in this video, that his technical ability is peak, as is his production and attention to detail in a mix, but he just doesn't make enjoyable or relatable music anymore. I think it'd be more accurate to say out-of-touch/corny or something. It just feels empty. He's like an autistic person that just put all his attention into nerding out on technical ability alone in his room, and lost touch of what makes a track actually hit someone
This is what happens when all you have to rap about is how dope you are.
You like your momma still pay ur bills be quiet đâ@@siyandamanqina1855
talk about not knowing shit...
'dear em, I wrote you but you still ain't callin'" đ€Ł
â@@ThatDopeShtttyou cant give a good argument on how he is so trash and so many rappers are above him ill debate with you all day
@@zaimnerguti730 Exactly. You can tell by the way he IMMEDIATELY had to go for the "Stan" shit. Sad, shrimp-dick can dish it out but can't take it
@@zaimnerguti730 444 > all that Eminem đ
â@@ThatDopeShtttBro just admit you don't know shit about rap and let it go.
I literally feel the same way Iâm from Detroit and donât nobody around here Bang Eminem mf born and raised in warren and steadily claim hes from Detroit yet no one out here listens to him
I know it's not my fault but it's kinda frustrating that bro has Alchemist at his disposal and still puts out music that's sonically so unbearable
Too many 'yes men'
Lol If you unironically use "bro" mid-sentence like it's a proper noun, I've got to assume you're Gen Z. In which case, you literally aren't allowed to have an opinion on rap. Beats? Go off, nobody cares. But generally speaking, your own tastes are too garbage and your own literacy too low to have allowed you any latitude to criticize. I'm talking about any lyricist, not necessarily just Eminem.
We get it: you'd prefer he chug some cough syrup and say "gucci gang" or some shit 93x. It's *entirely* possible that he intentionally creates beats that he likes the sound of, as opposed to the same fruityloops snare/808 shit that is guaranteed to pump in the club, like Dot just did.
In any event, "sonically unbearable" doesn't really track with what is objectively the most globally successful rap career of all time.
Liking music/artists is subjective, but you're levying a criticism that necessarily *can't* be true based on publicly available objective statistics.
So let's rewrite: "I don't like Eminem. That's my opinion! And it's one that is shared primarily by Benzino, Joe Budden, and... children."
There you go! Easy-peezy. Now, bring it full circle, call me a "Stan" and tell me which one of the Migos bodies Em on a versuz.
Edit: Lol I shit you not I hadn't read any further down the page, OP already copped out with the Stan shit the first time someone disagreed đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ąđ€ĄHow did people get THIS good at shitting on themselves đ€Łđ€Ł Called that shit to a T
â@@ThatDopeShttt Eminem is not jay Z bro
@@barcak1912 your on point with The ALC sitting right next to him, look at what he gave Kendrick with Meet the Grahams
Not only just Alchemist either. Em has the entire industry at his disposal. There's no reason that he can't get production from certified legends at the drop of a dime. DJ Premier, RZA, Dre, Kanye, Buckwild, etc. I guarantee if he reached out to any of these guys to produce his records, they'd do it. Yet he still comes with the most generic pop rock, and trap beats.
Imagine building a community off hating on someone else's success đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
What community did I build off of hating on someone? delusional đ
@@ThatDopeShttt "WHaT ComMunItY diD I bUiLd oFf of hAtiNg oN SomEOne", what are you looking for as a "youtuber" bru ? Aren't you trying to do so ? delusional đ
@deadlockyt3644 the truth ruffles your feathers, don't it?đ
@@ThatDopeShtttyou got to be some time of special
@@deadlockyt3644 nah bro you're right that what i was trying to tell him it's not a good idea to get known off hating on some one and again theirs a big difference between hating and just giving your opinion and he chose to hate it's not health
MMLP "Is in your top 20?" He fell off after Encore ?" You forget about Recovery???
Only dweebs say 'Recovery' is good đ€Ł. That's a classic to you?
â@@ThatDopeShttt better than Beyonce's husband's entire discography
recovery was dogshit
@@Advaitamantawhoâs beonceys husband
Everybody knows he fell off after infinite
3 mins of straight up trash takes.
Just a pressed jay z fan thinking that his washed up idol is better than eminem, Jay z is performing to rich white dudes while eminem is dropping hits while supporting local rappers.
There's a reason this is my shortest video. Straight to the point. đïž
â@@ThatDopeShttt jay Z who?
@@ThatDopeShttt glad that you know that your video is trash
LOL this is the stupidest video. Dude is literally one of the best rappers alive. Dude who made this is just jealous he never made in life.
In all actuality he's the worst rapper alive. I would rather listen to Elvis at this point. I'm not jealous, he could have a billion dollars, it doesn't change the fact that he's terrible
â@@ThatDopeShttt so You're like an authority on hiphop?
@@Advaitamanta who said that? đ€ I'm giving my opinion, and you choose to keep writing non stop on my profile now.. âđ
@@ThatDopeShttt You're def jealous af and it shows dude. You're a clown nothing more. Probably use to battle rap and thought he was actually good decided you'd make youtube videos about ppl you're jealous of in life.
Every point he made was legit
I've felt this way since the relapse album; it's funny because he comes off as someone fighting the standard culture which kinda worked cause he had nothing to lose and actually said shit when he started, but now it seems he's too scared to lose everything and just pretends to be on the outskirts
Lmao, respect for being disruptive, these comments are hilarious. There used to be a rapper back in the day on youtube named Wyze Geye who said in a bar "Quit rapping about rapping and actually do it". That's kind of how I feel listening to Eminem but people love it. To me his last good album was Eminem Show but his first 3 albums are undeniable. He's like shrodingers rapper
CdizzleâŒïž Em Stans can't have a civil debate without having their panties in a bunch. He could put out a blank CD and they would say he's the GOAT
the eminem show. i agree. last relevant thing eminem did.
bro. you aint lie on this. thanks for saying it. em was great when he came out. last album i enjoyed was the eminem show for real.
I mean, you can say nowadays his songs are mostly trash, but I think there are still some great Em hits after Encore and during Encore. An example of a good Eminem song post-Encore could be the song "Beautiful" of "Deja Vu". Another great song could also be "Stepping Stone" or "Castle" and "Arose". Of course, you mentioned it, When I'm gone is another song that came out after Encore that's still great. "Never Enough" or "Yellow Brick Road" are even more examples. So, where I am trying to get here is that there are still a few great Em songs with emotion on them. The newest song, Tobey, wasn't as bad either since he wasn't trying to rap fast as on maaaany other of his newer songs. To say that Eminem is completely trash after Encore or Relapse is kind of an understatement, but it's not completely false.
Bruh this guy is just putting out hit pieces on Eminem, like he didnât just make an orange rhyme wit a banana. đđđ
If you don't like it , don't listen but don't tell me about your favorite rapper ripping some shit he didn't even write.
Em Stans coming out the woodwork
Change your channels name to "That Weak Shit"
clowntown Ryno? or is it just Stan?
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Stan is that you?
@@ThatDopeShttt SHUT UP
@@sv_cheburator let me say it louder for the people in the back
I agree that Eminem fell off after MMLP 2. I've been a huge EM fan since I was kid but stopped listening to his newer music cause I felt like it was destroying his legacy. But with that being said let's not forget that Eminem in his prime was easily a top 5 rapper. Easily. Don't let recency bias make you forget this man dropped three straight classics in a row and out rapped anyone on his day in the early 2000s. I wish he retired in 2013 so people gave him more respect cause tbh hes ruining it for himself.
In his prime Em was a beast.
Do you listen or do you just skim through it
I listened and it is đ
i want the old tyler back
i agree
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Nas is a veteran that can still do it, Em tries wayyy to hard to drop medicore silly songs and playing dress up
Well said
He already washed nas on there song that came out em has washed everyone he gets on a track with you can hate and deny all you want đ
@@Chewemup1986 wash? Because he's saying a bunch of goofy shit that rhymes ??? Ok bro go do your homework, Nas actually says something while rhyming, and plus Nas is for the culture and one of the best, eminem is a silly ass trailer park ex drug addict culture vulture lol come on, I bet your white huh ?
@@Chewemup1986 that song you are talking about is a perfect example of how trash Em is
I think recovery aged bad but at the time I appreciated hearing something with some semblance of a theme/ introspective lyrics (some lmao) after relapse lol
I'm a fan of him. he hits very hard and misses even harder, no in between I'm always unsure going into a song of his, he will always have a lot of bars but it comes down to whether they are corny or actually gud. Don't think he's trash but would understand when someone says he is because boy does he miss when he misses
all fax
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Imagine saying "fax" and thinking your opinion matters
@@davemccombs the thing about the internet is, people can have an opinion. Dweebs who are Stans don't like that though.
Itâs crazy how you can listen to Ghostface killea a rapper who literally has schizophrenia and says stuff that means nothing but Eminem is trash yeah OKđ€Ł
Em sounds robotic, uncultured, and has horrible beat selection. Ghost has soul, natural charisma, and a dense catalogue. Imo.
These Em stans in the comments are so emotional
They can't quote a hard Em bar to save their life đ€Ł
maybe he has fans noone knows you .
@@ThatDopeShttt black hater hating on white rapper . You hate it since eminem is way above your black hiphop artist and noone knows your rapper internationally
@@poketv4417 no, he does have fans. that's the sad reality
This is a fact. Need more creators keeping it real like you. Thanks đđŸ
Appreciate you đ«Ą
Thank you for this. I love eminem, i truly do, but these two past singles do come off as forced
No lies told brobro
Eminem Stans are salty đ€Ł
Typical Gen Z đ€Łđ€Ł Watch out before Em gonna turn you into girl scout
Ignorant stans
Thank you! i say this and people call me a hater
Can't be a hater when it's the truth
Nah not a hater just delusional đ
Eminem isnt an artist anymore
The Relapse album was the worst rap album ever created , in my opinion .
Guys, it's just an opinion, stop defending Eminem like he is your father
Word up
Most of albums now are just diss albums nothing meaningful and i guess because im from the South ive never heard any of his music in a club or at a partyâ€
The DJ would get thrown out the party if he played Em
@@ThatDopeShttt do you guys know the game lmao
Straight trash, is quite the emotional statement while calling people here in the comments emotional (prolly some ragebaiting). His music changed for sure and loads of people dont like that, further on he raps to evolve his skill as a lyracist not to create the best club bangers. You can like that or not and miss the old Em which no way could be put out in todays culture as media wont accept it. But to label him as straight trash is bogus nonsense. I liked his earlier stuff way more too, but Music to be murdered by, b sides specificly is quite underrated.
His marketing is better than his music, imo.
you worded it perfectly. i enjoyed the second single a little bit, but no where near enough to give me any hope the album will be any good
Em had the worst verse on Toby
If you think Toby or houdini is trash, like this video, and go back to listening to lil pump.
You missed the point
Been wack since â04. If he actually captured that in-pocket flow and had some feeling/soul in his music today I would be all ears but heâs too far gone with this robotic flow and electronic bullshit production.
Just Lost It was the last single I can remember of his that was actually good
Good takes here. Eminem's mainstream fans are just kinda pathetic dudes under age of 15 or dudes over 40 who are stuck on listening same songs over and over again and circlejerk eachother.. Those dudes cannot even prove themselfs right instead go to usual braindead takes like"Dude who made this is just jealous he never made in life. you just jealous of his success" or you just hater".
I like eminem as producer tho and he might be actually kind of underrated at that
They start throwing personal insults and can't conduct themselves to have a civil debate that frankly needs no debate.
Wayne, Jay, Kendrick, Nas, Busta, Tech N9ne, Crooked I, Royce, Lupe etc put Eminem in their top 5 list but I guess they are not as educated as you on this topic.
I don't look for other rappers validation, I have my own opinion. đ
Em is still better than half of these new stars, mumble rappers, and people trashing him dont know better. Dont need to like him, but respect is the name of the game. Ofcourse, fot younger audiences respect is nonexistent.
I gave him props on his earlier works.
I disagree to a point but I totally get what u are saying and felt it too
Everyone in your top 30 has EM in their top 5. Think about why.
This is my opinion, not my top 30s.
â@@ThatDopeShttt your opinion does not matter
@@rajput36000 then why did you comment? đ€
@@ThatDopeShttt to let you know
@@rajput36000 if it didn't matter you wouldn't have to do that. try again dweeb
He is better than everything you've covered on this channel COMBINED.
TES doing more number than all these rappers entire discography combined.
Americans live in a bubble.
You could talk about record sales and numbers all you want. Doesn't matter to me in the grand scheme of things.
this is crazy hate
You're confusing hate for the truth đ€ŠđŸââ
Ummm. Recovery and Legacy LP2 are really good.
It's going to be a no for me dawg
He used to flow on verses and choruses like his voice was part of the beat, Now he just talks fast ontop of a beat if you get what I'm saying. It's like rather then caring about the song being catchy he just reads a page out of a book really fast overlayed on a beat.
And i hate to say it but he has nothing to rap about now that he's off opiates, he really should've ended his career with Recovery/Relapse and it would've been legendary.
I agree with some points made but I can't agree with straight up calling him trash. Recovery was an incredible album, MMLP2 didn't live up to the first but he did his thing on there, Revival was pretty bad, Kamikaze was great
I feel like he's held to a higher standard than anybody else... Eminem is trash but let's use Joe Budden's opinion to justify it lol... as if Joe Budden rode into the sunset dropping nothing but classics.
Recovery was one of the worst albums of 2010. I'll put up 'Dumout' by Joe Budden against any Eminem song post 2009
@@ThatDopeShttt isn't dumb out from 2005? Recovery is a great album and one of his highest selling so a lot of people agree.
I did enjoy Mood Muzik 4 as well though.
I know this is probably the hottest take in these comments but i really enjoyed relapse lmao, probably because i like metal and darker themes. yeah it can be pretty cringey but its fun at the same time. But i listened to a lot of Em growing up but i honestly haven't had any interest in his new music past mmlp2 which was kinda more leaning into pop type songs. also, have you ever listened to Warcloud?
Valid points. I wasn't a fan of the eccentric vocals throughout Relapse, but if you're into horror core rap, I get it. Appreciate your input đŻ I never heard Warcloud, put me on!
@@ThatDopeShttt yeah thats fair the accents were kinda goofy, but Deja Vu is my favorite song off the album. And Warcloud is probably the least known member of Wu-Tang. One of his best verses is a feature on RZA's 'Bobby Digital in Stereo" on the song Holocaust (Silkworm). Warcloud had also gone by the name Holocaust, and his verse was so good that RZA just named the song after him. Some of my favorite tracks by him are: Smuggling Booze in the Graveyard, The Trap Door, and Sweeping Bullet Shells.
Intersting. It's funny how there's like 30 Wu affiliates. They are killah b's swarming' for real....
Eminem been trash đź. Stan and all that shit was cool. But we never ever thought heâs the best. 3-4 good songs.
Idk what I dislike more Eminemâs music or his fans.. but I been done with dude after the Marshall mathers LP && even that one was a lil wild but I was a teenager now I would never listen to that album đđ€Ł Eminem is good enough for white ppl đ
I can list a dozen white rappers better than em lol. Merkules, yelawolf, ev, verb t, skinnyman, red pill, verbal Kent, your old droog, harry shotta, fliptrix, leaf dog.
iâm good on all white rappers.. .canât relate to nothing they talk about lol && i ainât trying to either.. .
@@KeithStealth lol then you havenât listened to them.
â@@katyg3873nobody heard of those rappers yellawolf has said Eminem influenced him stop talking out of your ass it's time that y'all stop this obsession and move on I can't name a rapper that gets compilation which are 1 hours getting hated on move on and enjoy life don't listen to him y'all love to make a hate section about someone that gets hate for being good
@@zaimnerguti730 if you havenât heard of those rappers then thatâs my point. Youâre listening to trash and need to up your game.
You just mad bro cuz no one besides busta can out rap him he prove himself in kill shot he untouchable đđ
By âout rapâ do you mean rap faster than?
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Bro.... DISCLAIMER for the stansđ
When you dye your hair blonde it leads to brain malfunction đ
âThe em haters about to cook this one they haven't seen a eminem hater ride the zone this much y'all are clowns for sure
Thought this was a joke lol.
That Em is terrible now? Nah.
I want what this guy's smoking
Oxygen
Relapse is a good album. After that its all trash
imagine saying someone's trash just for views. I see what your doing not going to sub but i clicked. Your calling people Stans for saying your opinion doesn't matter? Really, I think the over all opinion matters more than just one persons. I mean your youtube is a good example of this 1.58k but only 766 views at this point with 36 likes. So most have dislike right? or just left laughing.
But you clicked and decided to write a jr high essay.
Is em a good rapper. Yes obviously. Is he the goat? Not in a million years. Is his music âgoodâ? As in sonically pleasing? Not in a million years.
There are faster rappers- ocean wisdom and harry shotta. There are rappers with better breath control- abdominal (16 bars on one breath)
There are rappers with better stories- roc, ka, Akala, j cole, skinnyman,
There are rappers with better soliloquies and syntax- ka, Elzhi, ot the Mexican, rakim, ev, method man, verb t.
Is there rappers with better emotion- yes. Merkules, verb t, Benny the butcher, Conway, leaf dog, ka.
Em just isnât special /different anymore.
Well said, Eminem is as terrible as his name đŻ
Even though I half agree with your reply feel like some of the people you mentioned you cannot compare to Eminem like how you comparing verb t and akala to Eminem? Eminem shits all over them Eminem changed the game especially when he was on form and can spin the people youâve listed ten times over. Eminem was the best of his era and a lot of people wouldnât even be into hip hop without him to not give the man his flowers and try say fucking verb t is a better artist is actually ridiculous what verb t track compares to any of Eminems older tracks literally none.
Em stans are like swifties in this comment section LOLđ€ĄđđŒââïžđ€Šââïž. Get hold of ur emotions geez. This is barbershop talk. Its hip hop like Jay-Z said ' im from where ninjas pull ur card & argue all day abt whos the best MCs, Biggie, Jay-Z or Nas.
This is your opinion..but i think he is good
True indeed, it is. And your opinion is perfectly fine. Eminem Stans think otherwise.
Its not Ems fault his lyrics go over your head
They go absolutely no where but the trash can.
@@ThatDopeShttt lmao
The Dope Shit more like On Dope Shit
I can't argue with someone with an Eminem profile picture. Stan, I thought you retired?
Jay Z Catalogue superior? In what aspect? To whom? đ
People don't even know Jay Z outside america
What does knowing a rapper outside America matter?
All that means is marketing dollars were spent by corporations to fool ignorants like you
If weâre using popularity as a metric for greatness then Drake is the goat by that standard đ Eminem has been dropping duds for years, Hovâs last album was great.
@@ThatDopeShttt they spent more on JayZ but people outside US doesn't f with his music.
Jay is literally the corporate baby
@@Red5ive What metric you're using?
Jay ain't better than Em in any single aspect or metric.
Em has a better discography, em a better MC, Em is more relevant, Em's cultural impact is way bigger than Jay.
@@Advaitamanta Iâll take Hovâs entire catalog over Emâs all day. Em had a 3 solid album run although I do prefer Eminem show over MMLP (more replay and less shock value). Hov has better flows, beat selection, I donât care about how relevant he is, that shouldnât be a factor here.
The stans are about to be wild in these comments lmao
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Damn i think bro might hate eminem a bitđ
Hate? or Facts?
@@ThatDopeShttt I definitely understand where you're coming from. I also used to enjoy Em a lot back then but not so much now. I just feel you're exaggerating a bit
It's the audacity for him to put himself in top 5 conversations; throwing subs at Jay etc. It's all bark, no bite.
@@ThatDopeShttt at the end of the day it might all just come down to personal preference. A lot of people still would have him in their top 5 and you can't fault them for having that opinion based on what he's achieved
@@unsolvedsandwiches everyones entitled to their opinion, that's not the problem here. The problem is Em Stans are delusional.
LMAO @ cooked i and pharoe monch
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@@ThatDopeShttt u cooked đ©đżâđł
Lmaooo at joe budden
He has first hand accounts of Eminems display of trash in the studio
JID better
Haven;t heard a dope feature from eminem since renegade........... Forever? The man literally changes the bass line on his verse to coincide with "When I slap the taste outta your mouths with a bass so loud that it shakes the place" hold this L take lol Jay has DEF had weak albums after Reasonable Doubt. Let's not act like Vol 1-3 didnt have some at best mid songs on them. Black album is a masterpiece but anything after that is mid at best. Blueprint 1 was pretty solid but 2 wasnt as good they got a little experimental with beats on this album with songs like 2 Many Hoes, What they gonna do and Bounce. and blueprint 3 had a couple hot songs but front to back it's also mid. Dynasty had a BUNCH of features and lets be real Memphis bleek is kinda weak and jay put him on liek EVERYTHING Jay is one of my fav rappers but come on bro he's notorious for biting biggie lines "I say a big verse I'm only biggin up my brother" like this excuse works for a little bit but come on man lol ........ . You're allowed ur opinion but lets not ignore jay's faults. Also the list of rapper you put at the end is a joke right? Em put Redman over himself on Eminem Show, Royce has always been second to Em and lets not act like his albums haven't been lukewarm. Crooked I sure he can rap but another one with a lukewarm collection, Big L only released one album before he died ( like seriously?) Pharoahe Monch you couldnt even spell his name right so it really makes me question how much of a fan you are of him lol and we're considering the dude from the Roots as above em?
your take is a big L :D
444 > Eminem's last 5 albums
You reduced black thought to âthe dude from the rootsâ. Your entire argument is void.
@@Red5ive yes I did because he is irrelevant in the conversation.
@@ThatDopeShttt yeah didnât expect much of a response from someone with a take like yours keep baiting bro
eh
This is what happens when you dont have anything to rap about except how dope you are