Brahms Symphony 4 - Carlos Kleiber / VPO (audio)
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- Brahms: Symphony No. 4 (Carlos Kleiber/Vienna Philharmonic)
Composer: Johannes Brahms
Work: Symphonie Nr. 4 e-moll, op. 98
Orchestra: Wiener Philharmoniker
Conductor: Carlos Kleiber
Location: Vienna, Musikvereinssaal
Date: 12 and 15 March 1980
Here's the award-winning 1980 recording of Brahms' last symphony, with Carlos Kleiber conducting the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra.
Kleiber opts for a lean, austere sound, which is greatly structured and highly energetic. It's a cliche, but once you start listening, nothing can distract you from following it all the way to the end. His tempi are fast, and the dramatic climaxes - the coda of the first movement, for instance - are punched home with the greatest vehemence. The final passacaglia movement is simply sensational: Brahms marks it "allegro energico e passionato", and that's exactly what it comes as. Kleiber's grasp of the architecture ensures a tremendously powerful impact.
Brahms began working on the piece in 1884, just a year after completing his Symphony No. 3, and completed it in 1885. The work was given its premiere in Meiningen on October 25, 1885 with Brahms himself conducting.
Movements:
1: Allegro non troppo (E minor)
2: Andante moderato (E minor/E major)
3: Allegro giocoso (C major [might also be interpreted as E phrygian])
4: movement: Allegro energico e passionato (E minor)
DISCLAIMER: I do not own the rights to the music, the recording and the pictures. No copyright infringement is intended. If the video violates any copyright, I will gladly remove it. - Hudba
This is really the best version of Brahms Symphony 4 I've heard so far.
Best EVER!❤😂
With Celibitache also I think !!!!😊
Not only the greatest ever recording of this symphony but one of the greatest classical recordings ever made
Der vierte Satz - ein Höhepunkt in der Geschichte der Symphonie.
That happy moment when you find out Kleiber recorded this symphony.... :)
But...I can't find Carlos conducting the enigmatic 3! Do you know if he ever did?
3 is the most obscure of the 4. But it appeals to me deeply.
@@molocious Kleiber was a perfectionist. He hardly made any recordings. He recorded Schubert 3, Schubert 8, Beethoven 5, Beethoven 7, Brahms 4, and four operas. That's ALL
@@patrickhackett7881 From a career spanning from 1955-1999, Carlos Kleiber only conducted 96 orchestral concerts and 620 opera performances in total (sweat)
@@molocious nope, he never did the 3rd,(in concert or recording)
i "discovered" this gorgeous piece of music thirty years ago and congratulated myself on my "discovery" and good fortune.
only recently did i learn from my brother that this happened to be the favorite piece of music of my father, may he rest in peace.
this news is both sad and glorious for me.
archetypal
Le plus incroyable et émouvant premier mouvement de toute l'histoire de la symphony. Merveilleusement dirigé par Kleiber.
Невероятно !!!!!! Это самое лучшее исполнение Брамса за 100 лет.
This version's a miracle. I never found such absolute lack of soppiness so utterly (and sexily) goosebumping. His baton's like a broom that, by sweeping away all Brahms-conducting clichés, enables us to hear the work anew
Carlos Kleiber is simply my favorite conductor
AMEN to that! RIP, Herr Kleiber.❤
Nah, Klemperer
LONG considered one of the most glorious and admirable recordings of this towering, aesthetical and intellectual achievement, Kleiber's rendering of Brahms's final symphonic expression should be appreciated for what it clearly is; in all regards, a masterfully delivered masterpiece.
Yup. i have it on vinyl and cd, and it is a very dramatic exciting performance.
I bought this recording as one of the early digital cassettes, at Tower Records in Seattle. A desert island keeper.
Nope, the tempo is much too fast, sacrificing far too much of the emotional impact this symphony is meant to deliver.
Absolutely fantastic. Simply sublime. You know, this is one of my most favorite pieces of music. This amount of passion. This is exactly how this symphony has to be. I can't think of any other version.
Well, this version is excellent for its audio capture, however the tempo is much too fast and sacrifices the emotional impact the symphony was meant to deliver. Bernstein did not rush through Brahm's 4th, unfortunately the audio capture was bungled on that one. Except for that, it's better than this.
No entiendo como un ser humano pudo haber creado eso en su cabeza. Lo máximo.
I: Allegro non troppo 00:00
II: Andante moderato 12:54
III: Allegro giocoso 24:18
IV: Allegro energico e passionato 30:28
Great recording. If only Kleiber had done more...
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When Kleiber recorded this with Vienna Philharmonic the record was considered the best recording by anybody. This was not the tired old Brahms. This is a heroic champion of the Romantic age. Kleiber was full of confidence and organic energy. He was never a man to tell anyone he had produced a great recording, but everybody else did. I always thought i liked Brahms with some fire to it. This faster tempo did it for me. CZcams has another Brahms sym.4. You see a very tired Kleiber that is a reflection of his great self. A great conductor that did not record enough.
これまで聴いてきたブラームスの第4のうち、最高の演奏だ。ウィーン・フィルのしっとりとした美しいハーモニーが、ブラームスの内に秘めた情感を実に見事に表現している！
14:41 , is this beautiful ! Clarinets and horns preparation , and :15:36 , a sunset of desire , a wonderful light on every shadow , glittering on the Nile river , whispering some delightful words of hope and tenderness . . . .
I agree absolutely. The scoring here is impeccable, and the blend of clarinets and horns is very refined.
Without a doubt!! One of my favorite pieces of Classical Music.
Its my favorite symphony too. I feel the composer's frustration, restlessness and dissatisfaction whenever I hear it
What a pure genius. I am in heaven
I have an unhealthy addiction to the first movement of this recording.
+runupahill1There is a sense of the 1st being a tad too 'thought out'. Did Tchaikovsky write anything about Brahms' 4th? I know he didn't exactly warm to Brahms but the extent to which he disliked him leaves me feeling slightly suspicious about the real opinion he had of him. There is the same unquestionable 'carved in stone' (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven) sort of greatness in much of Brahms imo.
+Ian24s See my other reply to you for Tchaikovsky and Brahms Symphony 4. As for Tchaikovsky's dislike of Brahms, his criticisms have been quoted by many as an example of one composer's inability to justly appraise the work of another composer. But sometimes one composer writes about another with the insight from being a practitioner of the art of composing music, and nothing but that. I trust the judgments of certain writers and music-lovers who have given me many time-tested reasons for that trust. And when they only confirm what my own ears and mind tells me about certain music, then the case, for me, is rested. I could say more about Tchaikovsky's disdain for Brahms's pretentiousness,
but you can read these opinions for yourself in THE LIFE AND LETTERS OF TCHAIKOVSKY, edited by Rosa Newmarch, (London 1906) There is probably a newer version. I do not know it.
@@alanhill4957 Actually it was due to their different composing skills. Brahms was a master of everything that came before him and his handling of sonata form is something Tchaikovsky could never dream of. That was due to the static way Russians handle songs. Listen to the 1st movement of his 1st symphony. You hear the 1st theme in the tonic and by the end of the movement it really hasn't changed at all. But although Peter never mastered sonata form, he found his own voice by massing different parts of the orchestra stating his themes.
I like the 1st movement of the whole piece the most as well, without doubt. The same goes for Beethoven's 4th, the 1st movement is the best.
This is the DEFINITIVE Brahms and one that only the legendary leitung,Carlos Kleiber, could have pulled off so beautifully (though it helps having the great Vienna Phil in tow!), especially the first mvnt. No one has done the opening bars so gorgeously. Bella!
This was the first recording that got me hooked on orchestral music.
This is as perfect as Brahms can be. I cannot imagine a more soulful performance of this gorgeous, melancholy, reverent music. Thank you for posting it.
Beethoven's 14th. Wonderful how Brahms took over the mantra of truly profound music. And a huge composer in his own right! Great upload, thankyou!
The greatest recording of the pinnacle of Brahms' orchestral compositions.
This is incredible. My birthday is 2-1-47 and that's where my favorite moment starts.
This is a really fantastic recording. It is wonderful to have the entire 4th Symphony on one video like this, and this particular recording is full of energy and verve. For a long time Brahms' last symphony was my favorite. In recent months this is no longer the case; but that's not because my appreciation for this work has diminished. Rather, my appreciation for the other symphonies has grown as I explore them more. Listen to it from beginning to end - you won't regret taking the time to do so!
Symply amazing. One of the best recordings all time!
"Straight-away the ideas flow in upon me, directly from God, and not only do I see distinct themes in my mind's eye, but they are clothed in the right forms, harmonies, and orchestration."
-Johannes Brahms
No wonder my hair stands on ends when I listen to this.
Care to give a source for that quote? The atheist Brahms, quoting God as the source of his ideas? Can't see that being genuine.
@@Quotenwagnerianer I'm no expert, but I understand Brahms said different things to different people at different times. What he said to Dvorak is apparently the most well known. Or I should say, what Dvorak said about him.
@@Quotenwagnerianer He was not an atheist in today's sense of "physicalism," being an avid reader of biblical texts with doubts as to their orthodox interpretations. It's misleading to group such spiritually profound souls into ideological camps. It's obvious to any musician of high caliber that art possesses some form of divine energy, regardless of traditional belief systems. The humanism of his day, of Feuerbach et al, was known to be deeply worshipful of human nature, whether or not it could be called "religious" in a technical sense. It's a much more sophisticated conversation than "yes or no" atheism.
A masterpiece really ... there're very few pieces conducted by Carlos, and every Classic freak should listen to this stuff, let me say.
La'stima que el Maestro C.Kleiber no este mas con nosotros.Que versio'n!.Misteriosa,lejana,dramatica,delicada y tierna.-Tengo la 7tma de Beethoven,tambie'n con el Maestro Kleiber,quien me la hizo entender en toda su grandeza.Amigos,esta musica,nos purifica y ennoblece!!.-
Com toda certeza, não canso de ouvir esta sinfonia, Carlos Kleiber tinha uma maestria incrível.
I was so blessed to have attended VPO performance of this very piece at the Sydney opera house in 2009 when it toured sydney, last of its 4 concerts was broadcasted real time to audiences outside the opera house because lots people could not get tickets to the 4 scheduled concerts. I also have this vinyl recording and the score. Brahms was already old when he composed this work but the music is always fresh and majestic to listen to...
i've been listening to and obsessde by this symphony for 25 years,still can't work it out but am propelled into a realm of absolute beauty and truth by it every time
Specially the 4th movement.
Every single time I listen to it I find me travelling deep inside my inner self in a roller coaster of emotions and visions where there's no ultimate landscape and l'm left in a prolonged limbo of joy craving for more like a drug I badly need to have in order to get me through this world
My father used to say : there are the " 3 grossen B "in music ; Bach , Beethoven and Brahms . But he says , is Brahms so great as the two others ? I said , of course Brahms is one of the third ! And even there is a forth one : Bruckner . Why , asked my father ? I said : while Bach is building God , Beethoven arguing with God and Bruckner celebrating God , Brahms is mourning with God .
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Ganz schön .... als Brahms-Anwalt wünsche ich Ihnen so viel Glück mit Brahms .... Deutsches Requiem mit Klemperer, Klavierkonzert mit Horowitz,, oder Violinkonzert mit Adolf Busch ...
Gute Reise !
And Mozart playing with God
And Mahler philosophying about God
@@andresmorales7228
Yes, the relation between Mahler and God is incredibly tremendous .... sometimes with Him, just on His side, and sometimes excluded out of His Paradise
Brahms did not believe in "God"
@@manfredbartels4124
Brahms wrote a German Requiem.
The text of this Requiem is completety Christian. Check it, if you want.
And you are completely wrong, my friend.
I always enjoy when someone makes a comment; I remind myself to listen to the whole symphony.
This symphony belongs to me. I belong to this symphony.
Wonderfully put by you. I have this same 'sentiment' about Brahms' final Symphony with this unbelievable, superb, never surpassed finale. And: this symphony is as much a kind of circle in itself ('Ouroboros') as your two sentences of comment constitute. Also: looking back as well as being musically progressive. In a tragic way >> The future does not promise much good. Everything will develop back to its origin. The most human(istic) of symphonies since Beethoven Ninth's ! Not recognized as such. But here, in this rendition by Kleiber-son, it is all there.
100% satisfying! Thank you for uploading this. BRIAN
A great symphony with a great interpreter. Each movement is a joy. 1st built on just about 2 notes. 2nd a relaxing respite. 3rd the only scherzo that Brahms placed in a symphony. 4th, what can you say? 30 variations on a great Bach cantata theme in one movement! Plus some of his harmonies border on 12 tone composing, but you'd never know it. Thank you Er Ge for this precious gift!
My favorite rendition.
23:33, oh God , this perfect Kleiber landing !
one of my favorite interpretations, thank you!
gracias por compartir esta obra maestra
Magnífica grabación... Se escucha bien incluso a través de CZcams. Gracias.
Last night I was in a concert by the Vienna Philharmonic featuring this masterpiece. I guess I should blame this recording, which is an all-time favourite of mine, as I found myself leaving the concert unsatisfied!
Thank you so much for posting:)
Complete masterpiece, splendid performance by Kleiber and the VPO, many thanks Erge08 :-)
My heart stops so many times in the 2nd movement, beginning with that heavenly cantabile melody over pizzicato strings starting 15:38, which has already had a ravishing preparation of clarinets and horns.
thank you for posting this famous recording
Pure Gold.......
Calos Kleiber conducting the VPO on Brahms 4th is the DEFINITIVE recording. The orchestral presentation in terms of instrumental imaging and soundstage is remarkable. The dynamics, the timbral subtleties, the sweet silky strings and the overall musicality captured by the DGG engineers ranks high in the annals of Audiophile recodings and performances. This is also remindful of Yevgeny Maravinsky conducting Tchaikovsky 4th and Gustavo Dudamel directing (or "demanding") any world-class orchestra
Carlos Kleiber ist eine Inkarnation aus der Engelwelt der Musik. Dies wird deutlich, wenn man sich öfter in sein Antlitz vertieft. Dann kommt plötzlich das Engelhafte hervor und erzählt sich selbst. Ab diesem Zeitpunkt beginnt man, die Besonderheiten im Wesen dieses Magiers der Dirigierkunst.zu verstehen...
This is going to remain a benchmark for quite a while!
Fantastic last movement, so powerful! Incredible music.
That first movement, sensational!
Wonderfull interpretation! Great recording and exellent sound!
me parece con una claridad de lectura extraudinaria una interpretacion magistral y una orquesta como no se podia esperar otra cosa magistral
Kleiber demanded orchestra to sound all differently between main melody, sub melody, and other parts with the volume and articulations. When the music flows, all shape of the sounds have been changed in details and nuances.And he has let the main melody and conversation parts to play with the player's articulation with its own utmost level of expressions. That was why we felt extreme beauties in Kleiber And the other parts should sound not to interfere the main part (as like back screen). Often he repeatedly explain the players how the sounds to come out at every phrase so that the players could share the musical ideas as same as Kleiber thoughts. I believe Kleiber had his job done as the greatest movie directors. We can see all from his conducting in Brahms 2 with VP. Truly he is not only a genius but hard worker to control each and every corner of the orchestra as you can see him in Brahms 2 video. Some people explain his sound is lean and austere than other conductors. Maybe? because he controlled and calculated all with firm musical idea of his own as like movie director's. However main and conversational instruments sounds are never lean, but with great musical expressions.
thank you for the great quality and all the sypmhony in one video. much appreciated!
Music flows with essence of expressions. Every phrase has its own life at very high level.Every instrument has it utmost beauty. Even the pause and tempo have great meaning in Kleiber's Brhmas 4. Altogether bring us of how Brham's symponys should be played. Nothing rutine! Nothing boring! Every note has meaningful play by Kleiber and the musician! with full of soul! To achieve this level of music, how far the musicians and Kleiber had to go! It must be very near to the eternal place of God!
Superb rendition,many thanks.
kleiber le génie brahmsien par excellence , la référence suprême pour la 4 ème de brahms , un moment d extase très rarement atteint , la musique avec laquelle s en aller sur l île déserte , plus haut que la perfection kleiber est habité par la partition et la philarmonie de vienne en exaltation comme si toutes les planètes avaient été alignées pour ce moment trop rare ,; il sera difficile d égaler une telle interprétation , dans un autre monde peut être ,,
初めてこのアルバムを聴いた時の衝撃は忘れられません。高校2年の時でした。ブラームスの第４番はもちろん知っていましたが、何なのでしょう？このフレッシュさ。瑞々しい、ダイナミック？ノッテいる。言葉では表現でないような新鮮な驚きを感じたものです。
His recording of Beethoven 5 symphony with the same orchestra and on the same label is also outstanding...in fact I'm going to listen next
Carlos Kleiber의 연주는 항상 완벽하다는 느낌이 든다.
Carlos! He, and this performance, are beyond any words of mine. So I'll let my betters, including Carlos himself, do the job for me. Years ago Charles Barber was a student of conducting at Stanford. Against all odds he entered a long term paper-and-tape conversation with Kleiber. His recent book, "Corresponding with Carlos" is indispensable.
It's a great way to pick up chicks, too. Read it at a cafe. Only the very best will come over to ask what you're reading.
Perfect....
Carlos Kleiber es mi director favorito y esta grabación solo me reafirma en ello!
kleiber's lecture is the best
Only Ferenc Fricsay, with more or less the same approach and ability, could have reached the same level. Alas, he died too young. His Beethoven is superb. Take e.g. his rendition of the Ninth's (DG, 1958).
my favorite version
wonderful otherworldly musicianship from all, and Carlos...!
Carlos Kleiber a enfin éclairé cette symphonie un peu méconnue, à tort.La rencontre de deux génies intransigeants. Le thème du 2e mouvement pourrait devenir un tube. Le 4e mouvement est peut-être le sommet absolu de la symphonie classique et son tombeau au sens musical.
The melody alone in the 3rd mvmt. of #3 is enough to make it one of the best ones. Absolutely beautiful.
I love the sadness of this symphony
The favorite symphony
Such rich sounds. Perfect.
E-minor, solitude, composed a few years before Brahms' death in 1887. the absence of the sound of the piano, his true love, the loneness, the old age, fat and on longer handsome, all added up to Brahms' life. it also added up to my own life. George Wu, A.I.A. Age 76 2013-8-19
Wonderful!!!!
Heard a moving story on NPR about Brahms attending a performance of this one month before he died. Never really heard a full Brahms symphony until now. It is beautiful. Listen to movement 1 again, and tell me there isn't a resemblence to John Wiliams's score for Star Wars. The soft, descending strings toward the end especially.
Thanks, a great piece of music.
So many moments: anyway since 11' and something up to the end of the 1st mvmt it is simply irresistible
A wonferful rendition !
Thanks a lot
I. Allegro non troppo: 00:00
II. Andante moderato: 12:54
III. Allegro giocoso: 24:17
IV. Allegro energico e passionato: 30:27
Kleibers' recordings possess such passion. Hopefully, Brahms would be proud ;)
The most clean and pure interpretation of this phantastic poetical music. I like this version of Kleiber more than his later one, you can click here on the right list.
Juste splendide!!!
WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH
Do not leave out Klemperer with the Philharmonia - superb readings.
Certainly, this is wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
Deutsche Gramaphone: one of the three tops of the vinyl era, the other two being Philips and Telefunken. They manage to keep the voices of all the sections distinct. Great sound.
this is so beautiful!!
Kleiber coming with Brahms . Makes you forget Furtwängler or Walter in one second . A second of happiness . You forget your own taste . And begin to sing with . With the clear transparency of every note and phrase , becoming eternal in your own mind and memory , but you don't notice it . . . you swim in , and are in it . Making love with sounds , in your head .. What a moment ! And more , and more ...
Brilliant, thanks.
Beautiful!
Wundershöne
God bless you, Mr. Brahms.
Joder!!!! Grandioso
I wish Kleiber had recorded more often. His performances were critically claimed and his interpretations often controversial.
The same applied to his father, Erich.
It's a part of Kleiber's flair. Had he recorded more, his performances wouldn't have been in demand. This is why Kleiber was regarded so highly, because he would perform in public less often.
Hopefully, one day, there'll be a world where 'looks' and 'hype' isn't selling point no.1 of music anymore (the famous 'sex/drugs/rock&roll' success formula).
This music is like heaven on earth! I think I must have listened this symphony 100+ times in my life and I'm never getting tired of it; quite in contrary... it's VERY addicting!
This Kleiber/VPO performance is amongst my most dearest performances of this absolute masterwork.
PS: the Kleiber/Brahms video footage is also recommended!
And I had looked up blushing, trembling in her embrace, and through my cascading tears had whispered to her, "No I do not deserve that. But it is you who truly are the daughter of the goddess of the sky, you who arches in protection over the entire world. You who cast into illumination the boundaries of the mountains. Your heart is constant; your graceful limbs are set with confidence. The imperishable stars are under your governance, and the stars that never set are your thrones!"
Where is that from?
Everyone, what's your favourite moment in this symphony? Mine is the buildup and climax of the second movement, starting at 21:35
No words. I was crying at this moment, just when I read the comment.
Dear LoAtHome, ME TOO! I've always loved that part. Also, 23:15 leading up to 23:34. I'm an old guy so growing up I had Charles Munch's 1958 recording with the Boston Symphony Orchestra. Check that part out with him. What would we do without classical music (and opera)?
18:10 The next 30 or so seconds is a passage that must be one of the most poignant in music.
actually from 00.03 to 39.42
but particularly
00.24 - 00.43
09.30 - 09.35
10.50 - 10.58
11.08 - 12.48
17.50 - 18.00
20.50 - 21.10
21.35 - 22.17
23.48 - 24.13
26.20 - 26.36
26.48 - 27.03
29.46 - 29.56
33.55 - 34.18
34.38 - 35.14
35.37 - 36.12
36.31 - 37.06
and off course
39.00 - to the end
Er Ge
and, yes, 23.15 - 23.34
damn i wish i could compose like this nigga
It usually takes me a long time to get used to a different interpretation of a piece, but this one is great right off the bat.
une oeuvre de génie l osmose kleiber brahms confine vers des sommets que seule peut nous offrir cette magique je l emmènerai sur l ile avec la seule femme que j aie vraiment aimée