Al Davis was cheap, Mike Shanahan was petty, and their beef was a decade-long delight
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2018
- Al Davis hired Mike Shanahan has the Raiders head coach in 1988. But four games into his second season, Shanahan was fired, setting off beef between him and the legendary owner for years to come. Most of it was over money...but some of the best beef is salted with pride.
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"...Missing the playoffs for 3 years in a row, the first time in team history"
Raiders didn't know what was to come 😂😂
We sure didn’t
Kinda feels like that with my patriots
@@StonerStories ?
@@grimtea1715 as much as I want them to succeed, seems like we’re heading for major mediocrity.
You could do an entire series on all the beefs Al Davis had.
Al Davis vs. Pete Rozelle is the best beef.
Al Davis probably had a long running feud with his doorman.
You SHOULD do
I was going to say the exact same thing!
Jon Gruden beat the Raiders in the Superbowl.
Now I see why Kyle Shanahan said he grew up hating the Raiders
Last weeks beat down of the Raiders was extra nice for Kyle.
CityKids doesn’t everyone grow up hating the raiders?
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 nah bro that's the cowboys or patriots lol
Ashish Shrestha and the raiders
It's not that people grow up hating the Raiders. It's that the Raiders organization and fans are addicted to creating artificial rivalries by starting petty feuds. This all stems from the inferiority complex that comes with spending their entire existence as the ugly stepchild in their market, whether it's the Bay Area (49ers) or Los Angeles (Rams). It's no wonder why the Raiders want to move to Las Vegas.
"Beef debt is paid in beef dollars"
Shakespeare, "Hamlet", 1599
Oddly, I feel like Shakespeare might have approved that...
The fact that Mike told Steve Young to hit Al Davis in warmups is hilarious 😂 🤣🤣🤣
"If children want money, they can get jobs. Big Al ain't payin up" 🤣🤣🤣
Love It
Just Win Baby 🖤☠️🖤
I think the most important thing to AL besides winning was loyalty. ALWas a total street fighter!
Al Davis is like Frieza... pretty much had beef with everyone. It is a long saga, but one of the best.
Jesse Alexander I can't wait for Al Davis to be resurrected
@@gregdevries9811 resurrected? What religion are you?
@@DwayneIsKing you've clearly never watched dbz.
@@MC-bd5ub nope! And I stick by that
Greg DeVries golden Al Davis is gonna kick everyone’s ass
Absolutely loved how hyped Shannahan was to play the Raiders in the 90s. Dude looked like it was the only game of the year that mattered. Rangup the score every damn chance too 😙
Someone told me once that Holmgren felt the same way when his Hawks played the Niners
There was a time where a 5-10 season was the worst for the Raiders in 25 years?!? 😂😂😂
yep, it's gotten much worse since 2003. Its tough being a raiders fan these days; i know what the cleveland browns fans feel.
Duh! During the 70s and 80s the Raiders were so dominant! And they weren't terrible in the 90s. Throughout most of their history they have been a Powerhouse. Just not the early 60s and obviously this New Millennium.
@@frank9592 No, you don't. As bad as the Raiders have been, you've never had to suffer through a winless season.
Yeah the raiders are a garbage organization led by a garbage person in al davis. I wish he was still alive so I could laugh at his draft picks again.
raiders have been a joke for SOOOOO long now!
The Marcus Allen beef with Al Davis is still the one that baffles me. Allen could have possibly been the all time leader in yards by a running back but Al Davis acting like a child.
Classy gesture by Mike Shanahan to point out how he "learned" from Davis after his death, but it's hard for me to believe that those nice words were in any way sincere.
He learned not to trust Al Davis 😂😂😂
Backhanded complimenting at its finest. Make it sound like you are praising someone, but secretly hiding a veiled insult.
after Tom Flores left, that's when Al Davis became Al Davis for the remainder of his ownership of the Raiders, for the remainder of his life, specifically, that's when he became the difficult boss, owner to work for, that's when he would step on Coaches toes so the Raiders would play his way, meddle with Coaches and create instability within the Raiders organization. Something similar happened with Gruden after his first tenure with the Raiders ended in the early 2000's.
SB nation was cheap, Jon Bois was petty, and their beef was a year long delight.
Jokers R Wild Studios what happened
It wasnt a delight. But it pissed everyone off
I got here late what happened
@@LowkAlexander So did they actually fire him? He went missing and along with a couple other hosts.
Super hyped for his 'like chart party and pretty good but 2 hours long' thing, should be out by the end of the month. No nut November gonna b impossible if it does.
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From shooting hoops to the Super Bowl
Thank you sb nation we live for the beef
That ending was beautiful. Keep up the great content. You guys are gonna hit a million before the middle of 2019.
Al Davis shouldn't have been doing anything during his later years in life with the Raiders and it showed. Since the '84 season, the Raiders haven't done crap and his son is making it even worse but that's what they deserve
I wish you would have put in this video Mike Shanahan's response to Al Davis firing Lane Kiffin. his response was so funny. Mike Shanahan commented about how Lane kiffin coached one more game than him when he was on the Raiders so Shanahan said that, "Geez! He obviously liked Lane kiffin more than me. He let him Coach one more game than I did."
Y’all forgot the worse part: The Raiders had a trade lined up with the Colts to get John Elway but it never went through. Then we went to the Broncos and so did Shanahan and they won two super bowls together. Just to add salt to the wound
As a Broncos fan, this is why to this day I still hate Oakland more than KC or the Chargers. I don't care how good or bad either team is. That's the games to get up for.
Why would you hate Oakland? Davis's beef led a great coach back to your team. You should love and thank the Raiders fam they should be your second fav team fr fr.
How’d your Christmas Eve go tho
@@quindariusgooch9570 how's the last 20 years went for you
We hate you donkey's too.
As a Raider fan, I dislike Broncos more than KC because the two teams have kinda of a similar history, and three rings. Also in Brazil we have a lot of Broncos fans and they do think their team is way good and way too better than us.
I would’ve done Al Davis vs Marcus Allen before this one
How about Al Davis vs. The Commissioner's Office instead?
Dion R yea! The Pete rozelle feud is another infamous one
That one is tough because we don’t know all the details. We know it’s some personal vendetta but we don’t know exactly what
Can’t be done because we don’t know the true history of the beef and it’s more about theories than reports.
Also, everyone knows the beef if you know football.
Just watch "STRAIGHT OUTTA L.A" I think it's a ESPN 30 for 30...
You should do the beefs Al Davis had with Pete Rozelle and Marcus Allen
You can watch a football life on Marcus Allen for the back story of that one.
Correction: The Los Angeles Raiders win Super Bowl XVIII on January 22nd, 1984!
Mike is by far the most underrated NFL head coach ever
Seriously?
Yeah, no.
Every time the Broncos beat the Raiders during that time my friends and I always said, "So, just pay him already."
Pretty much, but Al Davis and pettiness go together like peanut butter and jelly
I shook mike shanahans hand at the 2012 panthers @ redskins game. Little did he know I rubbed one out in the bathroom moments before
Moist sounds like a story you could tell to your grandkids or other people’s grandkids
Moist how did u manage to do that, were u are a security personnel lol?
the real question on everyones mind is...you wash those hands? if not, i believe thats what is called a 'devils handshake' making him 'finger-pregnant'. well done. my best to you and yours.
Moist that story was wild from start to finish
But yours is so small so I am sure you were quick
in 1997 or 1998 I was at a Raiders@Broncos game in Mile High. As a raiders fan you hear all kinds of stupid comments there, but there was this old guy that was so damn angry that Shanahan didn't get that money, he was trying to take it out on me. I had no idea about this issue, nor did i really care. But that old dude talked the entire game about like I had something to do with it. Bronco fans man, they be crazy.
As crazy as... being a fan of a team that is a laughing stock, year after year, with no hope of getting better. They can't even tank right. Now you've got idiot son with a bowl cut running the franchise with zero clues about living life, much less running an organization. Yet all you fans do is dress up like it's Halloween every Sunday, then go home crying the paint off your face after losing once AGAIN. You fans stay so loyal to this circus every year, and then they up and move on you to Las Vegas. HAHA
But yeah you're right, Bronco fans are crazy
@John Bencomo still we've got 3 rings in the last 20 years what have you done
Tell me about it. I'm a Raiders fan living in Colorado lol
This is why I'm a Rockies fan
This video is well done.. thx.
You guys do great work. I'd love to see you do a video about Markelle Fultz's broken jumper. Such a strange and convoluted story. Absolutely one of the weirdest stories in sports history
Beef Debt is paid in Beef Dollars. 😆 This channel is awesome.
"Beef debt is paid in beef dollars" LMFAO!
It's times like this when I like to rub that 59-17 win over the donkeys on their beloved Shanahan's watch.
And when's the last time the Gayders won anything meaningful?
dont have much else as a raiders fan to be proud about huh? lmao
@How Dare You Exist I guess you don't know your history. The Raiders have more playoff wins by far in the AFC west division. Along with 3 super bowls. Read a book before you open your mouth.✌️
@@nevilleevergreens6522 the best part is the last 20 years of raiders history lmao
@How Dare You Exist good to know the Raiders live in your head rent free. FYI the Raiders have been to the super bowl in the past 20 years
That was good! @0:27..."Oakland Raiders win Super Bowl 1984"...you mean the L.A. Raiders!
I love these man.. gotta do some on the 90s bills too
This was awesome
“Dreams of beef future.” 😂😂😂
Anybody else get a laugh out of “beef dollars”
Malice at the Palace
Bautista vs Odor
Pedro Martinez vs Yankees
Draymond Green vs Fergie
Yes, I love these videos.
Tom Flores hall fame Mike class act in the end kind words for Mr Davis just win baby
Ok this is some well seasoned beef right here🥩
As a new fan of SB Nation, I'm speculating some foul play against Jon Bois's dissapearance
Who's jon bois
The Turtler 31 Blasphemous question
Dudeeeee he's got a 2 hr thing coming at the end of the month(like chart party/pretty good), the hype is unreal. Expecting the 'where's Jon Bois?' meme to continue tho lol.
Most recent iteration of this is Kyle Shanahan thrashing the Raiders in revenge. He did actually say he was a "raider hater" in his presser after the game.
Naturally Mike wasn't a true Raider which is awesome to me because it BANG BANG NINER GANG YEEEE
You should do Aquib Talib and Micheal Crabtree
Beef debts is paid in beef dollars. Amen.
Please do a beef history on CP3 and Rondo
How do you not bring up Mike’s son Kyle giving Al’s son Mark the whooping on TNF the other week in the final OAK v SF game
Matt C Because that 49er team is just as shitty as the Raider team they beat
With a QB that has never played a snap.
Asa Spade bullshit, the 49ers have a hell of a lot more talent than the raiders
That might've been why they made this video.
How can a team that wins 34-3 be "just as shitty as the Raider team they beat"? A healthy 49ers team wouldn't be good, but they'd be much closer to average than bad.
Tom Flores not being in the Hall Of Fame Just Blows my Load Off My Mind.
well he is now in the Hall Of Fame
And Mike Shanahan would go on to watch two teams choke an early lead in two different Super Bowls.
I be a Raiders fan all my life ....😖
6:51 "And into the wind the beef went"...that must be some flimsy beef
Can we get some of that grass-fed Kobe beef...as in Kobe vs. Jalen "Anklebreaker" Rose
I don't think you can call Shanahan petty for this. If someone owed you $250k and doesn't pay up, that's "take their loved ones hostage " type of money, not something to shrug off
You good sir are excellent
The only reason why I loved this channel is because of jon bois. hes one of the best editors in youtube
You need to change your graphic at :33. That 1984 Super Bowl win was as the LOS ANGELES RAIDERS, not Oakland.
This was good
Al Davis should have hired Art Shell from the get go after Tom Flores resigned after the 1987 season
Agreed. He would have replaced the first Hispanic coach with the first Black coach, it would have thrown the whole league for a loop.
We want all the smoke
John Madden won one of those Superbowls as or head coach
Kindly do a beef history with Al Davis vs. Marcus Allen and Ken Stabler
I love beef history
NEXT BEEF - Jim Mora Jr. vs. Arthur Blank vs Michael Vick 04-07
This beef cost the voice of the Raiders his job. Greg Papa criticized Mark Davis for considering Mike Shanahan for a coaching job given Al's history with Shanahan. That pissed Mark off and he fired Papa over it, and replaced him with ..... Brent Musberger.
0:49. Those shorts though.😂
Al was the bad boy of the league. Its hard to be a rebel if you get along with the authority. Everyone talks about a teams "Mt Rushmore" The Raiders should just be Al or if they must...four Al's. rip
Thats really big of Shanahan to drop the beef though.
Mourinho vs Wenger
Mourinho vs Pep
Ferguson vs Benitez
Keane vs Vieira
This video is well done but there is an addendum to this beef that occurred a couple of years ago that snuffed out the final vestiges of the Al Davis Raiders. In early 2015, Mark Davis, son of Al, interviewed Mike Shanahan for the Raiders job. Raiders play by play man Greg Papa took to the airwaves in order to criticize Mark Davis for the move and basically called it a betrayal of his father's legacy. That talking to Shanahan amounted to treason. Papa, a brilliant play by play announcer, was an Al loyalist and was even at one time considered for a front office job, his heart was clearly with the old regime, as were people like the departed CEO Amy Trask. On Papa's radio show that day was Bill Romanowski, former Bronco (Shanahan) and Raider (Davis), who disagreed with Papa about the value of interviewing Shanahan. Despite being grateful that Davis signed him late in his career, Romanowski argued that Davis only kept people around that agreed with him or did his bidding, and that was not the way to run a franchise. Fast forward to 2018 and Papa was fired in favor of Brent Musburger. Papa, who is deeply missed by Raider fans for his skills as a play by play announcer, blamed his dismissal on his previous Shanahan comments. He is now currently the play-by-play announcer for the Forty-Niners. The hiring of the Las Vegas-based Musburger cleared the franchise of remaining Al loyalists and reaffirmed the transition to the Mark Davis Las Vegas Raiders.
Al wasn't cheap, he was just petty. The money he paid to guys like Tommy Kelly, DeAngelo Hall, Gibril Wilson, Javon Walker, Warren Sapp, and of course, JaBustus (no last name necessary) is proof of that.
Do one on Shanahan/Elway vs Dan Reeves
I want a Michael Jordan vs bad boys pistons. I will keep commenting about it too
Beef History: Al Davis and Marcus Allen
Al Davis and Tim Brown
Al Davis and Lane Kiffin
Al Davis and Jon Gruden
I wish there was a clip of al Davis diving out the way!!!🤣
Those glasses are awesome
Lauda/Hunt
Senna/Prost
Schumacher/Everyone else on the grid
Hamilton/Rosberg
A lot of F1 beef to be cooked...
I've 'HEARD' of 2 of the 7 drivers on that list.
@@threatassessment606 All the more reason to learn more about it.
Lauda/Hunt is a must.
That was my favorite sports story of all time. Shanahan asked gerbac to throw the football toward al Davis
I remember when games were at 9 p.m.
These videos are addicting
Beef History: Roy and Jim from The Office
WHERE IS JON?
Who else took a shot every time he said beeeeef? Damn I'm wasted
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Mike Shanahan ruined RG3’s promising career
RG3 ruined himself
My favorite sport is basketball, they dribble the ball up and down the court, I like that
Like Dr j and Moses Malone
Have you ever seent a slam dunk
I enjoy when a point guard calls for a pick, then the picking man rolls toward the hoop after disrupting the defense. My favorite play, though, is the alley-oop.
Lol!
SB Nation vs Jon Bois fans. Make it happen.
4:40 The 5-1 Raiders?
Can't remember the last time I heard that ;(
Yea;(
I sorta knew bits about this beef between Mike Shanahan and Raiders Owner Al David but didn't know it went on so long and Davis held the grudge so long
I neither like or dislike Al Davis, but he was a u know what to ppl. I will give him this, however, he loved his team passionately
So is Jon Bois fired like the other guys? Could we get some sort of answers of what you do with all of your hosts who seem to disappear? This guys is great but I also question how much longer I will be hearing his great narrations until SB just gives him the boot.
Nicolas Cage could play both Davis and Shanahan in a made for tv bio pic
I would have done the same thing Mike Shanahan did. The time to have beef with a person is while they're alive. Once they're dead. Leave it be.
Strange to see these old versions of Beef History, so brisk and flat and factual.
You should do Ohio state and Michigan
Really would love to see "Marshawn Lynch vs. Seahawks/Russell Wilson"...if its not already out.
Where the FRICC Jon Bois at
Who remembers putting up college numbers on the broncos at mile high?
over involved owners are a disaster for any team. Hire a good GM and let him do his job.
when beef lasts that long, the beef goes bad and starts to stink. You eventually have the let the beef go.
Gotta do Rondo vs CP3 after these playoffs
Shanahan wasn't a quarter of the man Al Davis was.