A lovely-sounding instrument. Each stop is so distinct and full of character. Wonderful voicing - *all that chiff is truly delicious!* And that sweet wooden Posaunenbaß! ❤️ (Although I'd prefer a 4' Koppelflöte or Spillflöte to a 4' Salicional. Alas....) Merci bien. 👍
I would like to complement the organ builder as well as your playing. Both are very beautiful. I'm glad the organ builder took the extra time to build the beautiful casework of the old style instead of just slapping plywood together as so many modern 20th and 21st century builders are doing, even in the old cathedrals.
After the “barbaric invasions” due to J. Ahrend mistifications (and pupils) we have to go in Hungary to rediscover the lost art of the orgelbewegung voicing ( Flentrop, Danion-Gonzales, Rudolph von Beckerath, Formentelli)
@@andreacosta74 funny statement, as Ahrend had to put an end to decades of mystifications regarding voicing (low pressure, low cut, open feet, no dents, etc.) that were propagated by the Orgelbewegung ideologists and more or less willingly applied by Paul Ott (where Ahrend learnt the trade!) & others, effectively ruining dozens of ancient organs... I do not quite see the relationship between Formentelli's obsession to kill the fundamental in favor of the 2nd harmonic, and Beckerath's style for instance. Victor Gonzalez original voicing style was radically different (see Bailleul, Reims cathedral, ...) from Orgelbewegung stuff, and that Orgelbewegung-oriented voicing became a commonplace with the Danion-Gonzalez boutique much later, here again under the influence of musicologists (Dufourcq) because no organ builder in his right mind would go that far. Concerning the handling of central German voicing by Ahrend, see for instance Wetzlar (I played it once). Concerning the art of voicing viola da gambas, the guy who impressed me most was Philippe Hartmann, who received the (pre-Orgelbewegung) tradition via Gutschenritter (former Merklin factory). We had an ugly raspy gamba there from an unknown builder. I told him I'd like a Walcker-style gamba, 1830 flavor, with slow buildup and chaging color. The next day, and after careful re-voicing, I had it. Relationship with Walter Supper, Christhard Mahrenholz, Paul Ott, etc. ? I do not see (or hear) it...
you missed the theatre organs of barton compton wurlitzer kimball morton and midmer losh organ..all those organs have strings better than that on this organ
What an amazing instrument! The tone colors are so rich. It is incredible that such a new instrument can sound like some of the historic instruments built 200+ years ago.
What I like here is that it is a contemporary church building. But they wanted a traditional sound, so they have a new organ, which even looks contemporary, but built to the methods and sounds of the Baroque. Fantastic, and well displayed by the organist!
Great sounding small organ that punches well above it weight is both character and in power. Your improvisations were interesting. Hints of Bohm and Frescobaldi. The partial adagio from BWV 564 was nice. I enjoyed the whole video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
You are absolutely correct about the versatility of the instrument. Your improvisations bring out the voice of the organ so nicely. Thanks for all the joy you bring to your CZcams audience. Wish I could say that in Hungarian
Wonderful instrument. So many years since the Orgelbewegung to come at least these last years to this sound was worth all the efforts. I feel like Reincken hearing at Bach. I got emotions.
I appreciate that there is a lot of historical expertise to draw from when building these things. What staggers me is that someone has to start with a plan, not just knowing the sounds they want but also knowing what can and cannot be done. It can be no easy matter creating a system that can control the airflow to those pipes for example. Creating a system that keeps the flow consistent when switching from low-air volume demand to high-air volume demand must create problems of its own. When did musicians become engineers? Then someone must have a test-plan for all possible permutations of those levers. How does the placement of pipes affect their sound alone and with the others? I wouldn't even attempt to tune my piano. Organs like this are a world apart. Respect.
@@moderatemind355 And up to three strings for each key. Pretty sure I wouldn't want to try either one of them. I have trouble enough getting a piano to sound good when it is tuned.
Oh my god that is cool! I've had ideas in my head for organs like that, where the stops aren't bound to any manuals (with the few exceptions that this instrument has.)
Wow, this is so interesting! If I wouldnt know better, I would totally guess this organ was the organ in Waltershausen. Especially with the principal and viola di gamba
Very cool, thanks for the demo! Was just in Budapest, scary how CZcams knows =P I'd be happy to send you some BCH as thanks for taking the time to upload this!
This kind of craftmanship and, above all, Voicing, makes my cry of joy for the rediscovering of the lost art of the truly historically correct orgelbewegung! IT means: NO NICKING or other artifacts on the labia and OPEN TOE voicing. The rediscover of the Baumeister orgel in Maihingen docet to all..
Bálint, you do such a great job showing us the registrations. But would you mind putting music details of pieces played (or partially played) in the video description? I can't be sure at times when you are improvising and when you are playing a piece I don't recognise that I would like to obtain a copy of.
But it sounds HORRIBLE. It's like a terrorist attack to the ear drums. very poorly constructed and using inferior materials. I played it several years ago and it has only value as a curiosity and for history sake of the philipines but not so much musical value.
Marcel Pogoda you should contact Aeris orgona for an accurate price but I am sure this organ would cost significantly less than a similar instrument from a Swiss, Dutch or German builder. Definitely worth asking!
Really though, what is the point of this stop system? I play a small 25 stop Casavant with just traditional stop knobs and a few coupler pedals for an action. Even that is awkward with no assistance. Here it seems like an exercise in aggravation. Sounds great though.
Is the music when he is sampling the Principal 8' composed or improvised? If composed I would like to know what it is. If improvised it's not a surprise.
Free impov tbc! That is, our unusually well trained + self educated organist is not basing the melodies on any known melody. What that means? A set melody makes improv of several independent voices easier. 1) You memorize and internalize this preexisting main melody--so that you hardly need to to think about it. 2) This allows more thinking and concentration to go into the other 2-3-4 melodies going on at once. 3) If that were not enough, under everything is this organist''s absolute mastery of harmony. That is, of knowing the characteristics of each of the 24 keys. Each key, when playing on a keyboard (no pun!) goes from using only white keys, to using the whites as a basis but then introducing one or more of the 5 black keys instead of the previous white one. (!) Then... then you need to know the 12 different moods of sunny/happy ("major") keys; and then 12 more of anxious/sad/pensive/creepy ETC ("minor") keys. But wait! Keys ain't nothin compared to the cluster of notes called "chords." You need to internalize until blue in the face 8 very basic chords, each containing a low note from each key/key mentioned up there somewhere. You could go on for 2000+ pages just on harmony. That was enough to praise B to high heaven. Enough to let you know the extra high levels of calm, skill, IQ, EQ, memory, muscle memory, coordination between 2 hands and 2 feet going at once...not to mention the sheer gift from God knows where to where to some unsuspecting boy in Hungary....that are required to make smooth, tight, musical improvs on the pipe organ. AND that a 100% free improv when done right is the higher level of improvisation (and composition) itself. I mean: Bravo man!
Interesting organ. However the wind supply does cross the line from being “lively” to “unsteady”. I guess it may be partly down to the design of the large soundboards but I suspect it’s not. Voicing is a bit of a curate’s egg too - some nice things but the top of of the PosaunenBaß doesn’t seem performant. Not sure how I feel about knots in organ case wood work.
Having spoken at length with an organ builder, he has found that pretty much every baroque thuringian organ is lacking in tonal output in the reeds, due to the designs and methods of construction
The stops should be called Gedeckt. This means "covered". These types of stops have capped pipes allowing the pipes to sound an octave lower. Gedackt is a corruption that still pervades today.
Bullshit. Gedackt is not a corruption. Back in the days there was no such thing as a standard spelling. It varied according to area and era. Gedeckt/gedackt/gedäckt/gedekt/gedakt/gedect/gedact. They are all historically accurate and absolutely not a corruption. The same as with the stop octave/oktaf/oktave/octav/octaaf/octaef/oktaef.
Is not there the third in the mixture? I like the intonation and temperament. It has a right sound. Usually the modern organs are too much perfect and they play like a electronic organ for my taste.
This organ is meant to replicate the instruments that J.S. Bach would have been most familiar with. the swell box wasn't invented until long after Bach's death, so most "Bach-organs" contain no swell division:/
I consider my self a novice if not beginner musician but, I felt it was out of tune. I assumed “what do I know compared to the experts who play it?” But, seeing someone else mention it makes me think my ear is better than I thought.
It's not out of tune. It has a flexible winding system which may appear to cause slight deviations. Furthermore it is not tuned in the same way as modern instruments- the octave is unequally divided
Bachtehude The historic organs I know be it in Northern Germany, the Netherlands, Southern Germany and Saxony (Silbermann among them) are all sounding perfect to my ears. Also the Wender Organ in Arnstadt sounds perfect. But compare it yourself: czcams.com/video/wCzggf6bv9E/video.html
I'll reinforce what most have already said, the wind supply is a bit uneven, adding on to that, it is tuned in an unequal temperament, which Dr. Karosi mentioned in response to a couple comments above was designed by the builders themselves of this particular instrument, Aeris Orgona of Hungary.
I played this organ a few years ago and was very amazed by its wonderful sounds. Its builder showed me the inside a swell. A builder to watch!
That Quintadena is sublime. It's a sham that many of the attempts at such stops produced here in the 60s, 70s etc. are so disappointing in comparison.
What a beautifully built instrument! I noticed the handles are wrought iron!? And what wonderful bright sounds!
Örülök hogy Magyarországon is vannak ilyen szép hangszerek! Köszönöm a feltöltést!
A lovely-sounding instrument. Each stop is so distinct and full of character. Wonderful voicing - *all that chiff is truly delicious!* And that sweet wooden Posaunenbaß! ❤️ (Although I'd prefer a 4' Koppelflöte or Spillflöte to a 4' Salicional. Alas....)
Merci bien. 👍
Love the sound of this organ. Also, the improvisations are top notch, and fit this organ very well.
I would like to complement the organ builder as well as your playing. Both are very beautiful. I'm glad the organ builder took the extra time to build the beautiful casework of the old style instead of just slapping plywood together as so many modern 20th and 21st century builders are doing, even in the old cathedrals.
Be glad someone was willing to PAY the builder to take the time to make the case the old fashioned way.
@@johnsantrizos7638 I am!
All the stops have a wonderful tone and resonance, very ethereal and clear. I think the Thuringian-style organ has become my new favourite.
That viola da gamba stop sounds more similar to an actual string instrument than any string stop I have heard before.
After the “barbaric invasions” due to J. Ahrend mistifications (and pupils) we have to go in Hungary to rediscover the lost art of the orgelbewegung voicing ( Flentrop, Danion-Gonzales, Rudolph von Beckerath, Formentelli)
Mark Holm Agreed!
@@andreacosta74 funny statement, as Ahrend had to put an end to decades of mystifications regarding voicing (low pressure, low cut, open feet, no dents, etc.) that were propagated by the Orgelbewegung ideologists and more or less willingly applied by Paul Ott (where Ahrend learnt the trade!) & others, effectively ruining dozens of ancient organs...
I do not quite see the relationship between Formentelli's obsession to kill the fundamental in favor of the 2nd harmonic, and Beckerath's style for instance.
Victor Gonzalez original voicing style was radically different (see Bailleul, Reims cathedral, ...) from Orgelbewegung stuff, and that Orgelbewegung-oriented voicing became a commonplace with the Danion-Gonzalez boutique much later, here again under the influence of musicologists (Dufourcq) because no organ builder in his right mind would go that far. Concerning the handling of central German voicing by Ahrend, see for instance Wetzlar (I played it once).
Concerning the art of voicing viola da gambas, the guy who impressed me most was Philippe Hartmann, who received the (pre-Orgelbewegung) tradition via Gutschenritter (former Merklin factory). We had an ugly raspy gamba there from an unknown builder. I told him I'd like a Walcker-style gamba, 1830 flavor, with slow buildup and chaging color. The next day, and after careful re-voicing, I had it.
Relationship with Walter Supper, Christhard Mahrenholz, Paul Ott, etc. ? I do not see (or hear) it...
I agree. I have never heard any better. I wonder what they could do with the Vox Humana.
you missed the theatre organs of barton compton wurlitzer kimball morton and midmer losh organ..all those organs have strings better than that on this organ
What an amazing instrument! The tone colors are so rich. It is incredible that such a new instrument can sound like some of the historic instruments built 200+ years ago.
I love this Orgel! Beautiful color, clear speech. Such nice voicing.
This is so sweet and gentle. So pleasant to hear. I really like this instrument and its voicing.
What I like here is that it is a contemporary church building. But they wanted a traditional sound, so they have a new organ, which even looks contemporary, but built to the methods and sounds of the Baroque. Fantastic, and well displayed by the organist!
This instrument has SO much character. I love it!
What a lovely instrument, Your face at 11:11 shows clearly that You've enjoyed it too 😀
Great sounding small organ that punches well above it weight is both character and in power. Your improvisations were interesting. Hints of Bohm and Frescobaldi. The partial adagio from BWV 564 was nice. I enjoyed the whole video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Bellisimo el sonido da la trompeta de 8' maravilloso , curioso cambio de registros.
Brand new organ sounds brand new. Nice and clean.
You are absolutely correct about the versatility of the instrument. Your improvisations bring out the voice of the organ so nicely. Thanks for all the joy you bring to your CZcams audience. Wish I could say that in Hungarian
Amazing, wonderful, inspiring! Thank you!
Fabulous organ with amazing crispness and vitality...
this organ has such a beautiful sound....
Wonderful instrument. So many years since the Orgelbewegung to come at least these last years to this sound was worth all the efforts. I feel like Reincken hearing at Bach. I got emotions.
Ooooo not a nick in the flues! And the narrow scaled Principal and Octave are fantastic sounding!
That is a real German principal that Bach knew...not heavy nicked skinny flute of the late 19th century idea. But we all have our preferences.
Incredible richness of expression and beauty in each stop! Thank you for excellent demo Balint!
Hajrá Bálint! Te vagy az első magyar akit látok ilyesmi témát bemutatni
Very interesting. Thanks again, Balint!
Love your style, always compliments these beautiful organs you play. Cheers from the US.
A beautiful demonstration, and your playing is superb.
Magnificently instrument. A joy to play for sure. Well done, indeed.
The space is so small yet such good acoustics
truly stupendous playing and what a fabulous 'tight' sound to the stops, fabulous instrument!
I appreciate that there is a lot of historical expertise to draw from when building these things. What staggers me is that someone has to start with a plan, not just knowing the sounds they want but also knowing what can and cannot be done.
It can be no easy matter creating a system that can control the airflow to those pipes for example. Creating a system that keeps the flow consistent when switching from low-air volume demand to high-air volume demand must create problems of its own. When did musicians become engineers?
Then someone must have a test-plan for all possible permutations of those levers. How does the placement of pipes affect their sound alone and with the others?
I wouldn't even attempt to tune my piano. Organs like this are a world apart. Respect.
Best comment ever
@@moderatemind355 And up to three strings for each key. Pretty sure I wouldn't want to try either one of them. I have trouble enough getting a piano to sound good when it is tuned.
Kevés regiszterrel is gyönyörű kompakt hangélményt ad! Köszönöm!
Oh my god that is cool! I've had ideas in my head for organs like that, where the stops aren't bound to any manuals (with the few exceptions that this instrument has.)
the combinations are limitless..just like the ways to play Bach.
Wonderful ! Thank you very much !!
Thanks, Valentinus. Unique organ and expert organist - Deo gratias. I Will look after the possbilities to listen to You.
A lovely instrument beautifully demonstrated. Thank you!
Appreciate this very much. Great organ and playing. Amazing purity and beauty from this builder.
Very interesting. I have never seen this system allowing the same stops to be played by either manual.
Really a nice organ and a fine demonstration. Thank you
Gaaf orgel hè
Nice organ 👍 the registration demo is really clear. Thanks for uploading the video
Thanks fore showing us this beautiful instrument, and music!
greetings from the Netherlands
The organ was obviously designed for playing the music of Handle and Carl Maria von Lever.
I wish I could learn the organ like you.
Really beautiful sounding instrument with no way of programming a prepared combination of Stops useful for recitals etc
That's a really nice organ. Thanks for uploading.
beautiful instrument nice contrasts in coloration
Magnifique orgue, improvisations superbes, cet orgue a des similitudes avec celui d'Azzio(Italie) de Mascioni
Wow, this is so interesting! If I wouldnt know better, I would totally guess this organ was the organ in Waltershausen. Especially with the principal and viola di gamba
very nice sound!!!
Very cool, thanks for the demo! Was just in Budapest, scary how CZcams knows =P
I'd be happy to send you some BCH as thanks for taking the time to upload this!
It's fun to see the entering church footage at the start.
This kind of craftmanship and, above all, Voicing, makes my cry of joy for the rediscovering of the lost art of the truly historically correct orgelbewegung! IT means: NO NICKING or other artifacts on the labia and OPEN TOE voicing. The rediscover of the Baumeister orgel in Maihingen docet to all..
Bálint, you do such a great job showing us the registrations. But would you mind putting music details of pieces played (or partially played) in the video description? I can't be sure at times when you are improvising and when you are playing a piece I don't recognise that I would like to obtain a copy of.
Samuel Whitehead I usually improvise in these demo videos but at the end I played BWV 564
ON the right side : Tremulant / Glockspiel/ Coppel . No stop buttons , there.
What is the piece played at 12:50? It is beautiful! I love that melody on the upper manual.
Bwv768
Do the Bamboo Organ in Manila ...It is a UN designated site....
But it sounds HORRIBLE. It's like a terrorist attack to the ear drums. very poorly constructed and using inferior materials. I played it several years ago and it has only value as a curiosity and for history sake of the philipines but not so much musical value.
I have never seen an organ like this before. It looks like it was recently built, too. Do you like this style of organ?
Are you Dora the Explorer?
@@mr.peanutbutter6969 No. I cannot be Dora the Explorer because she is a fictional character. Why do you ask?
Which pieces are being played, please? The organ has a wonderful sound. Thanks
All improvisation (in all his demo's)
I just prefer it when he plays in short sleeves!
I’d prefer if he did it without anything on myself. LOL
@Porteno1924 - You’re sooo naughty! 😀
Please, answer me this. How satisfying are those levers?
Are there any commercial recordings on this instrument? Wonderful organ and playing.
funny stop mechanics. haven't seen that on any organ before.
It sounds great! Do you know how expensive the organ was? In Germany, instruments built according to historical models are hardly affordable.
Marcel Pogoda you should contact Aeris orgona for an accurate price but I am sure this organ would cost significantly less than a similar instrument from a Swiss, Dutch or German builder. Definitely worth asking!
Really though, what is the point of this stop system? I play a small 25 stop Casavant with just traditional stop knobs and a few coupler pedals for an action. Even that is awkward with no assistance. Here it seems like an exercise in aggravation. Sounds great though.
Is the music when he is sampling the Principal 8' composed or improvised? If composed I would like to know what it is. If improvised it's not a surprise.
Everything is improvised until the ending, in which he plays BWV 564
Does the trompete on II turn into a cornet from top G upwards?
Can anyone tell me the beginning piece ?
Those pipes are quite 'chiffy'.
Is the little piece at 07:28 a chorale prelude or an improvisation? If it is a piece I would like to know the name very much.
Hi it was all improvised
Free impov tbc! That is, our unusually well trained + self educated organist is not basing the melodies on any known melody. What that means? A set melody makes improv of several independent voices easier. 1) You memorize and internalize this preexisting main melody--so that you hardly need to to think about it. 2) This allows more thinking and concentration to go into the other 2-3-4 melodies going on at once. 3) If that were not enough, under everything is this organist''s absolute mastery of harmony. That is, of knowing the characteristics of each of the 24 keys. Each key, when playing on a keyboard (no pun!) goes from using only white keys, to using the whites as a basis but then introducing one or more of the 5 black keys instead of the previous white one. (!) Then... then you need to know the 12 different moods of sunny/happy ("major") keys; and then 12 more of anxious/sad/pensive/creepy ETC ("minor") keys. But wait! Keys ain't nothin compared to the cluster of notes called "chords." You need to internalize until blue in the face 8 very basic chords, each containing a low note from each key/key mentioned up there somewhere.
You could go on for 2000+ pages just on harmony. That was enough to praise B to high heaven. Enough to let you know the extra high levels of calm, skill, IQ, EQ, memory, muscle memory, coordination between 2 hands and 2 feet going at once...not to mention the sheer gift from God knows where to where to some unsuspecting boy in Hungary....that are required to make smooth, tight, musical improvs on the pipe organ. AND that a 100% free improv when done right is the higher level of improvisation (and composition) itself.
I mean: Bravo man!
Interesting organ. However the wind supply does cross the line from being “lively” to “unsteady”. I guess it may be partly down to the design of the large soundboards but I suspect it’s not. Voicing is a bit of a curate’s egg too - some nice things but the top of of the PosaunenBaß doesn’t seem performant. Not sure how I feel about knots in organ case wood work.
Having spoken at length with an organ builder, he has found that pretty much every baroque thuringian organ is lacking in tonal output in the reeds, due to the designs and methods of construction
The stops should be called Gedeckt. This means "covered". These types of stops have capped pipes allowing the pipes to sound an octave lower. Gedackt is a corruption that still pervades today.
Bullshit. Gedackt is not a corruption. Back in the days there was no such thing as a standard spelling. It varied according to area and era. Gedeckt/gedackt/gedäckt/gedekt/gedakt/gedect/gedact. They are all historically accurate and absolutely not a corruption. The same as with the stop octave/oktaf/oktave/octav/octaaf/octaef/oktaef.
Very noisy stop levers. They could at least have added a bit of felt to reduce the noise.
Who are you playing? It sounds early and kinda northern.
Is not there the third in the mixture? I like the intonation and temperament. It has a right sound. Usually the modern organs are too much perfect and they play like a electronic organ for my taste.
The tierce rank is provided within the Sesquialtera, so the organist has the choice.
Full organ but not with trumpet? Did I miss something? Would have liked to hear that combination.
Trumpet at 8:28
👍🥰
Thanks for this upload. Great organ! Is it meantone quarter comma?
No it is an unequal temperament designed by its builder
@@bkarosi thank you. I would be interested in seeing a monochord.
Świetna prezentacja instrumentu!. Ist die Orgel gleichstufig gestimmt?
Buxtegrube 1 no it has an uneven temperament devised by Balazs Szabo
Rather noisy stop levers. That would be enough for me to choose something else.
What would it sound like with all the stops enabled?
wat piece were you playing at 12:00? Or were you improvising?
Ich möchte gerne auch wissen. Wo kann man sie finden?
Karosi owns music.
Magyarul is jó lenne hallani a szöveget.
There's no swell 😕🤔🧐
This organ is meant to replicate the instruments that J.S. Bach would have been most familiar with. the swell box wasn't invented until long after Bach's death, so most "Bach-organs" contain no swell division:/
Who is the organ builder of this instrument? Nice organ!
Aeris Orgona
What is the name of the piece at 15:58? Please help me, can't find it :/
I think it's toccata c major from Johann Sebastian Bach
esta wea suena a toa callampa loco
Is there any point for these historical-style instruments to not have a low C#?
송제슨 Thuringian organs usually didn’t have a low C#
It's quite a big and expensive pipe and in the music of this period you don't need it really.
more a rennaisance sound
mhhh, nett....etwas brav, glatt... etwas mehr Power wär schön gewesen! Die Zungen sind schwächlich... :-(
nothing to do with a real baroque sound.
the waffle house has found its new host.
A bit out of tune. Needs some maintenance.
I consider my self a novice if not beginner musician but, I felt it was out of tune. I assumed “what do I know compared to the experts who play it?” But, seeing someone else mention it makes me think my ear is better than I thought.
It's impossible to say that without knowing the intended temperament :p
It's not out of tune. It has a flexible winding system which may appear to cause slight deviations. Furthermore it is not tuned in the same way as modern instruments- the octave is unequally divided
Bachtehude The historic organs I know be it in Northern Germany, the Netherlands, Southern Germany and Saxony (Silbermann among them) are all sounding perfect to my ears. Also the Wender Organ in Arnstadt sounds perfect. But compare it yourself: czcams.com/video/wCzggf6bv9E/video.html
I'll reinforce what most have already said, the wind supply is a bit uneven, adding on to that, it is tuned in an unequal temperament, which Dr. Karosi mentioned in response to a couple comments above was designed by the builders themselves of this particular instrument, Aeris Orgona of Hungary.