Flexible Spending Rules for Early Retiree's With Michael Kitces

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  • čas přidán 22. 03. 2020
  • Saving and investing are incredibly important if you want to retire early, but the flip side of that is how you choose to spend your hard earned money too.
    How and what you spend on will determine your entire retirement trajectory, so let's jump into the numbers and uncomplicate things.
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Komentáře • 44

  • @timelston4260
    @timelston4260 Před 3 lety +19

    One of my favorite episodes ever. This guy knows his stuff. Super helpful and articulate.

  • @elsacordova260
    @elsacordova260 Před 4 lety +11

    This was so useful I feel like I will have to rewatch to fully understand

  • @litterbugger
    @litterbugger Před 4 lety +5

    Such good info and very encouraging.

  • @Jeff321
    @Jeff321 Před 4 lety +7

    Great episode! Kitces is one of the best.

  • @thepigwillfly5869
    @thepigwillfly5869 Před 4 lety +5

    I actually like listening to the Podcast on CZcams more so than my iPhone. Good content guys!

  • @figo7405
    @figo7405 Před 4 lety +1

    Once again: good stuff!

  • @slimdawgwoof
    @slimdawgwoof Před 3 lety +4

    Michael is my superhero.

  • @Pieter2360
    @Pieter2360 Před 2 lety +3

    What an excellent episode! For folks who are interested in this topic, I also recommend the research paper published by Vanguard in June 2021 where they explain that 4% still holds for early retirees, even based on their low expected returns and a 50/50 portfolio, provided that you diversify internationally, have a low expense ratio and implement a flexible spending system.

    • @timsans1170
      @timsans1170 Před 5 měsíci

      Yes a
      "Low Expense Ratio!!"
      Fees are NOT factored into the 4% Rule.
      We need to be aware of this before sitting back and wondering what's going on with our dwindling accounts....

  • @Vedette-sa
    @Vedette-sa Před 3 lety +8

    Brilliant episode!

    • @ChooseFI
      @ChooseFI  Před 3 lety

      Aww, thanks! I read his blog all the time. ~Jen, Community Manager

  • @seanwoodworth8247
    @seanwoodworth8247 Před 4 lety +11

    Wow, thanks for the episode. Impressive interview! Appreciate the discussion on safe withdrawal rates under different portfolio return scenarios.

  • @SD-co9xe
    @SD-co9xe Před 4 měsíci

    Great info.

  • @grasmi
    @grasmi Před 6 měsíci +2

    Kitces for president!

  • @70qq
    @70qq Před 2 lety

    thanks

  • @jamesmorris913
    @jamesmorris913 Před 2 lety +1

    Just one possible "fly-in-the-ointment" to maintaining a withdrawal rate of approx. four pct, adjusting for inflation annually: R.M.D.s will eventually FORCE you into taking a larger withdrawal percentage.

    • @timsans1170
      @timsans1170 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You reinvest beyond the 4% is all

  • @arianamora101
    @arianamora101 Před 3 lety +3

    Please bring A Purple Life back for an update on her retirement 😎

    • @ChooseFI
      @ChooseFI  Před 3 lety

      She's pretty cool. If you have a Twitter account, Purple is totally active on Twitter.

  • @dmoon9037
    @dmoon9037 Před 4 lety +1

    Concur with the interviewee here: case study subject should strive to get the blog etc. income (and pay the 15.3% FICA on it) at the very least to the 1st bend point for another 25 years to flesh out her 35 years of indexed earnings.

  • @christinab9133
    @christinab9133 Před 2 lety

    Wow!

  • @vanguardvaluist2614
    @vanguardvaluist2614 Před 3 lety +5

    Michael Kitces is my FI binky.

  • @jhaybiebasco8529
    @jhaybiebasco8529 Před 3 lety +2

    How does Michael's withdrawal adjustment strategy differ from the guardrails under the Guyton Klinger rule?

  • @rootedrotor525
    @rootedrotor525 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. One question regarding the guardrails. If you start at 5% and the market stays within guardrails, do you give yourself an inflation adjustment during those years? Thanks

  • @erinaustin9968
    @erinaustin9968 Před 4 lety

    Investing in yourself is not often echoed in the FI community when it comes to formal education as a trade off to investing.

  • @jdoniger22
    @jdoniger22 Před 3 lety

    Patrick o’shaughnessy

  • @dmoon9037
    @dmoon9037 Před 4 lety +1

    Whoa whoa whoa, time hack 1:02:00, bonds go up when the market crashes? Asterisk that for March 2020. When was this episode recorded?

    • @vanguardvaluist2614
      @vanguardvaluist2614 Před 3 lety

      Interesting call out. As it turns out having a percentage of bonds in your portfolio, not going up and earning nothing would still be a blessing. You could live off the bonds if you had to and avoid selling stocks in a 40% decline. Also the option to put a little back in to stocks because you could sell a small percentage of the bonds and try to catch a discount on stocks. Since market timing is impossible, you can set a buy in point for any market crash ahead of time. For example say 20% decline before you buy with a small percentage of your bonds that you sold. As it turns out the market had a V recovery since the RONA crash. Since there was no way of knowing that you simply have to commit to going LONG with your new buy in. Have an actionable plan with the bond bucket AHEAD of time for the inevitable crash that's coming.

    • @dmoon9037
      @dmoon9037 Před 3 lety +1

      @@vanguardvaluist2614 “bonds...not going up and earning nothing...” we call that “cash” in these here parts. Concur on stock market crash rebalancing (buy). It works at the other extreme, too (stock market bubble rebalancing). I prefer limit orders as well.

  • @susanneowens7616
    @susanneowens7616 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank God for a NON- COVID19 podcast. I am a healthcare worker and need a break from its 100% bad news!!!!

    • @timsans1170
      @timsans1170 Před 5 měsíci

      Boy did II come to the party late!
      When I read your "Covid" remark, I glanced up at the date.....Lol!
      Hope all is well?!

  • @johnyjsl9219
    @johnyjsl9219 Před 4 lety +2

    Very good brothers. No corona scenario?

    • @malinullberg
      @malinullberg Před 4 lety +2

      Probably recorded prior to the corona madness!

  • @amafid
    @amafid Před 4 lety

    Sorry Purple

  • @amafid
    @amafid Před 4 lety

    1:19:33 like now!!!

  • @davidfolts5893
    @davidfolts5893 Před měsícem

    Adaptive spending = Spending slack.

  • @malinullberg
    @malinullberg Před 4 lety

    1:00:17 the 4% might work, but the actual amount you can withdraw with 4% when your portfolio dropped with 80% is gonna be very, very small tho?

    • @jackmasden244
      @jackmasden244 Před 4 lety

      True but that's why you have at least a years worth liquid so you don't need to touch anything in the market.

    • @SynThenergy
      @SynThenergy Před 4 lety +6

      That's why you have bonds to draw from, preventing you from touching the stocks during bad times

    • @vanguardvaluist2614
      @vanguardvaluist2614 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SynThenergy The bonds can also provide a buying opportunity by using a small percentage of them to buy back in while stocks are tanking. Just know ahead of time what you will do. EX: At 20% down I put 10% of the bond allocation into an all market index. You just have to commit to a LONG holding strategy.

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot Před 5 měsíci +3

      Oh boy. That's not how the 4% rule works guys. The yearly withdrawal is not 4% of your current retirement investments. The yearly withdrawal is 4% of your year one retirement portfolio adjusted got inflation every year after that. So if the market drops 50% your withdrawal does not also drop 50%

  • @amafid
    @amafid Před 4 lety

    😀

  • @amafid
    @amafid Před 4 lety

    54:05 not gonna happen!!!

  • @MN-wg8qd
    @MN-wg8qd Před 5 měsíci +1

    Kitces seems to be ignoring the fact that one is much more likely to hit their number when the market is high, increasing failure risk.
    9x the money? Well, anyone that had enough money to retire in 2002 had like 1.5x their FIRE number in 1999 and 2000.
    And having to work 8 years down the road for 4 years at $20/hr for 500-1000 hours per year sounds a lot worse to me than working one more year at $80/hr etc.
    Good topic though I just am not as optimistic. I do think that getting 75% there and then cutting down to half time in the same high earning field is the way to go as you start shaping your retired life.