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Mounting the Oil Tank,and Fender on the 1940 Harley Davidson Project Bike
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2020
- As the "mock up" continues, mounting the battery tray, oil tank and rear fender on the 1940 Flathead Eighty Harley Davidson Project Bike.
“You never cease to amaze me.” I really enjoy your workmanship and how you explain what you do. Thank you very much. You are very inspiring.
Wow, thank you!
@@pacificmike9501 Your welcome Mike, I put together my first bike in 1971 and just finished a Pan/Shovel a few months back, For me putting a bike together with your own hands is what its all about , Stay safe .
I would love to know the story about the dent in the tray... yes... that's history, if they found the problem after the fact, took it back to the Engineers and they said banged it into shape, with a 2lb ballpene 🤣😂😂Every Machine shop has reworked product ... fact and cost of doing business 😡🤬😡 I have personally Demagnetize thousands of printer shafts after machining.
@@maldonadossouloldies1799 hey mike , how old were you then?🤫
You, sir, are my tutor as I begin my own Panhead bobber project. Thank you!
Fantastic! Have fun!
Restoring my grandfather's 53 Panhead. No prior knowledge or experience. I would be so lost without you. Thanks for sharing your info and expertise! George (grandfather) would have been a huge fan of you as well!
He was your Grandfather and rode a '53 Pan. What's not to like? I'd probably been a fan of his.
I own 2 or 3 of those oil tank trays, and every last one of them has that bashed in dent on the bottom. Never knew it was a Factory thing! I learned some thing!! Thanks Mike!
I've always thought it was odd, but, There it is.
Looking good Mike, enjoying the progress....and the process...lol
Thank You. Me too.
Another piece of the puzzle done! Lookin good my friend.
Thank you! Cheers!
Pacific Mike xpress is blo POPdwv Awe h
I really enjoy watching your show wish you made more videos than what you make it's like working with my uncle or something
Thank You. Proud to be compared with family.
Beautiful fit on those original parts. Smart combination. You must have a great parts room. Great instructional video. Thanks Mike!
Thanks for watching!
Good fun videos Mike... I've done a few, the last one I restored was over 3 years ago, a 1965 BSA 650 Lightning. Watching your videos I got bit by the bug again to start another bike project. Looks like I'm going to my storage unit and drag out my lift table and find a project bike for this winter. When my Honey asks if I'm building another bike in the garage I'll just say, "Its' Mike's fault"...lol
Everything I do, they blame on me. But, since I don't have a wife, I'll have to let yours be mad at me.
It is nice watching the mockup.
Glad you like it.
This is a very cool series.
Thank You. Glad you like it.
She's coming together nicely now
Thank You.
Thank you sir for the building lesson.
Very welcome
Enjoyed the garage visit, have a blessed week Mike.
Thanks, you too!
Hi Mike ,
It is always a real PLEASURE to watch your EPISODES
You are easy to watch & quite easy to listen to ...
You do NOT manicure your slight mistakes & blunders and quite graciously fix the "OOPS" that happen in normal assembly
No DRAMA & no BLAME ... just a soothing VOICE & Reality
Thanks for making ALL your You-Tube videos available
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I'm an EVO baby - but - WATCH you Flathead & Shovelhead videos just BECAUSE I like your style
Thanks Again
COOP
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Thank You. We are having fun. And, it doesn't hurt to see where Evos come from. You know the Knucklehead started that.
Really interesting and instructional video keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Looks good Mike, coming along 👌 Art from Reno NV
Thank you! Cheers!
I really enjoyed being able to see your HD Project Bike starting to come alive. It makes me remember old times spending hours and talking with my Grandfather in his Garage while he was always repairing something. Thanks for sharing. Keep it up. See you on the Road. : )
Thank You. I would like to have known your grandfather, but now we have you. Not bad.
Hey Mike, I hit "like'! This project is getting exciting! Once you get that VL springer mocked up and in the frame, things will really start to take shape. That sturdy springer suits the big flathead '80! Back in the 70's, I had an unmolested 1930 VL springer. Unfortunately, I had to let it and a lot of other great parts go in order to raise a down payment for a house. Still have the front fender though.Take care.
I sold an RL front end and an Indian Enfield front fender for grocery money. I get it. Later on, I got this stuff. I'm officially happy. You take care too.
Wow such a cool project, I am enjoying this series.
Glad you enjoy it!
Looking good Mike, can’t wait for that little hot rod flat head engine build
Thank You. Me too!
We found them! (Only kidding) A large (as you can get it) washer on the top of the tank’s front “tabs” will reduce the chance of the tab cracking where it meets the tank. Besides the order, you’re also giving us a pretty good idea what the rear of the motorcycle will look like at final assembly.
That's cool.
Pacific Mike, your videos are a type of positive therapy during these lockdown times.
I have not progressed as far as you in my big twin rebuild and this is my first HD restoration. I am amazed at how many parts and advice are available here in Australia. Been a great winter project.
That's cool and Thank You. From the people I've met from Australia, I thought American bikes were pretty common there. My 52 Indian was sold over there and I hope is living a good life.
This stuff is always more interesting to me than new harleys... though I still want a Road Glide.
You can have more than one bike. They don't get jealous you know.
@@pacificmike9501 That is the plan :)
Good video Mike. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Your videos are great. Love to follow them. Would have been fun to visit your shop. Saw the video. Keep up the good work. Can’t wait to see the front end. Thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
You’re really going to have one awesome little chop when you’re done. Looking forward to seeing it through till the first rumble. Stay well my friend.
That's the plan! You stay well.
Hey Mike that's going to be a cool bike
Thank You. I'm gonna love it.
Great work man 🤘
Thank You.
👍 it begins to look like something of a bike👍. I like the story of the old battery plate and the hammer 🙂. "The swede"
Thanks 👍
THANK YOU...for sharing. Fantastic, waiting patiently for that front end.
Thank You. I'm as patient as I can be.
Mike, Thank you for another super informative video. Stay healthy and keep the rubber side down.
Thank You. And, you too.
Do whaddy do diddy dum didy do is what it sounded like you were trying to say here in Sarsfield Victoria Australia at the start of video 😎😎😎 like your videos ol mate can't wait to see the outcome love those flathead motors harley should make them again
Interesting!
Mike I solve 90% of my bike issues with a massive hammer😁 Really enjoying this build. Stay safe👍
Not so. You couldn't. You wouldn't. I get it. You don't have "issues." Thank You. Stay safe yourself.
Hey mike! Thanks for all your expertise. I’ve seen every one of your videos and love every second of them. Much love from South Carolina!
Wow! Thank You.
Looking good brother, can't wait to see the finished product.
You and me both! But, I want to savor each piece, as she goes together.
Good evening Mr. Pacific. The scoot is starting to show her figure and looking real nice. You sure do make it look easy. I think that battery tray story is just the coolest thing. To think there was an oversight in engineering and instead of redesigning the part, someone had the task of beating everyone to fit, too cool. Well, just as you're waiting for your front end, I'm waiting for my custom front batwing and with me testing positive for Covid-19 yesterday and I'm fine, I'm going to be taking care of some cosmetic upgrades to pass the time. Take care of yourself Mike, we need you more than you know.
We need to all appreciate each other. You have to take care. Everyone is spending too much time alone. I count on hearing from you in my comment section. The people who watch our youtube channel have become my much appreciated social life. That includes you. Take care.
The bike is going to look great Mike. Please tell cameraman Mike that he's doing a great job. Thank you for sharing I love your videos.
Thank You. I'm glad you appreciate Mike. He really is good at it.
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Looking great brother, like a puzzle each piece has its place. Love it when a plan comes together.
Ride hard ride safe be well
That's the plan! Thank You. You do the same.
I'm starting to see it! Fantastic Mike!👍🖖
Thank You. It's becoming real to me. She's coming out of my head and onto the lift.
It's gonna look great when it comes together, good vid Mike.
Thank You.
I'm running the aftermarket tubed vent. I plugged the stock one and mounted the other in the
shifter top screw through hole that's right behind the original. I don't recall where I got it.
Also (and I can't recall why) I have refrigeration compressor vibration isolators between the battery
tray and frame mounts. The lower stud screws in and the rubber fits right up inside the rolled over
portion of the tray.
Finally remembering, those tubes with that right angle vent came from Custom Chrome. The isolators on your batery tray sound interesting and ought to work well, but don't they take up too much space?
@@pacificmike9501 No. It IS tight between the top of the oil bag and frame rail, but they don't touch. There's a 1/4" maybe.
Again, I don't really recall why I did it. I keep thinking I wanted to shim it up, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. It's been years ago I put it together (shrug).
Just great! Your videos are such fun! BTW, I drove past those P38's again in Burbank. The are on Empire, not San Fernando. One of these days I'm gonna stop and take a real good look at them.
I will go look at them.
Looking good Mike. You're inspiring me to get back to my ironhead; I've taken a couple of weeks off, too hot and humid here in New England. It's energy sapping.
Good for you.
Mike, I was day dreaming of having another Flathead, I had a 1940 80" or a Pan.
So I was mentally putting it together and I was going to use a stock bobbed fender like you just did....
Great minds think alike.........
And naturally, I agree.
Michael Griffith great mind ??? Keep dreaming, you sound like a jerk
get er done! can't wait to see the finish product!🤙
Me too. But, I'm savoring it all as I go.
Love these teasers ❤️
Just showing it step by step.
It's such a pleasure to watch someone with so much passion doing exactly what they have so much joy in doing. When you were working Mike, in a full-time position before you retired, where did you work at if it's something you're able to share?
I had my own shop in San Luis Obispo CA.
@@pacificmike9501 that explains the extensive assortment of specialty tools, always a pleasure seeing a response from you.
Thanks Mike! We're excited with you!
Cool. It's a real "social distancing" party.
Woah!? Is that a motorbike starting to come about? Always good content Mike! Keep well! Im already excited for next weeks content. Fingers crossed on that springer fork to be mocked up next! Man alive I wish I had a nice old bike to have as a project. Your vids definately inspire me to get a project bike.
Cool. You just might have a great time doing it.
i love learning that many years ago some guy designed this battery tray , HD made it , and another guy working on the assembly line figured out how to make it fit and work with the other parts . and then he never told anyone in management (or maybe they didn't listen !) , and nobody ever redesigned that part . so not only did HD continue making that part that needed to be modified on the line , reproduction companies made it the same way !
Ironic huh?
Great job mike, loved the video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great vent...:)
Thank You.
Coming on well there Mike and great little history snippets. You should let Mike the camera man be in shot and assist you and even ask a question or two if he spots something from time to time, I think it would be nice to see and add to your vlogs. Keep up the great work there 👍🏽
Thank You.
love your vids Mike !! with an after market fender I see the need for fender washers , but with that " old" original , you have factory brac ing inside the fender
Yes, it's a battered original. The holes were made oversize at the factory to adjust alignment.
Gr8 WISDOM brotherman...yall better listen to brotherman MIKE
Thank You. Thank You very much.
Adding these are 5/16” x 1 1/2 inch bolts
Okay.
Always a pleasure watching your progress here.
Now, I'm a firm believer in the philosophy that motorcycles and cars have personalities all their own. My father had a '59 Pontiac we called "The Beast" because it sounded like one and made us think it was certainly possessed at times. I've nicknamed my bikes on similar fashion. Likewise, I've heard you talk about "Baby Doll" a few times. I'm just curious as to whether you have a nickname chosen for the flatty and your ultimate vision for it, or do you wait for completion of the project and wait for it to "speak" to you as it's coming to life.
I hope this wasn't too lengthy.
Great video.
Catch you next time!
Good question. My vehicles tend to name themselves. "Babydoll" is one of the sweetest machines I've ever owned. I have names for machines that I can't even tell you. But then, they've been places we can't talk about.
@@pacificmike9501 that is probably the most perfect response I could've hoped for! 😄
Very informative!!!!
Thank You.
Good morning Mike, mildly off topic but I can't think of better words of wisdom for this ? I'm building a early hot rod pan, 103", and I want to keep with tradition yet beef up all aspects of the build. Any experience with the Dual Cam Backing Plate for the front end, 36-48 forks. It's sold by JP Cycles, part #241-697.
No juice brakes on this build, and I want to do something special for the customer. Thank you Mike, your advice on this will be truly appreciated and respected. SARGE.
BIG Panhead. I've thought about those brakes so much and never tried one. They've been around for quite a while and have been carried by several suppliers. It's got to be a good idea. The most important thing with drum brakes (you probably already know this, but they're good thoughts anyway) is the contact area of the shoes on the drum surface is correct as possible, maximizing stopping power. The other one is the routing and stabilization of the cable. Look at a stock Harley springer and notice the attachment points of the cable sleave from the brake all the way up to the lever. It attaches onto the lower fork tree and then, on to the handlebar. Those stabilization points make a big difference. Let us know how you like it.
Thank you Mike !
Yes, I finally found a home for the 5" flywheels I had in the shop for 15 years. You're absolutely correct regarding the contact of the shoes and drum I.D. I learned about with my first Model A build, it meant the difference between stopping and slowing down and tossing out the anchor. I'll pay special attention to the mounting points you mentioned thank you. Thank you again Mike. SARGE
Cool spot to hide tools in the battery box since your running a mag.
Yah, tools; that's the ticket.
hello mike its me leroy love you harley
Hello, Leroy
Mike, working on bike and have to take rear mag tire/rim off the bike. Little nervous first time doing this. Nervous but I have the manual which is key. I remember you said always have manual. I guess just nervous. Lol
I get it. The biggest thing is making sure the bike is secure and cannot fall. The next thing is to be careful that the weight is off of the wheel when removing it. Nervous is okay, just take it slow and think over each step.
Thanks Mike, any Mike T-shirts I will support. Thank let again
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Thank You.
On your transmission, your using a bolt for the kicker side support. Any particular reason why? Could you use a 5th stud? Seems like it might be easier.
Love the videos. You are a wonderful teacher.
Thank You. I do it just like the factory intended. The 5th bolt screws into a cast-in insert in the case. When installing a transmission, as I stated, it is designed to be installed with the mounting plate. Once the trans and plate are installed, it is quite easy to install the bolt from the bottom.
I like fender washers too. Use them at work #8x3/4. Could never figure out why they call em fender washers. OH cause you use em to hold up fenders! LOL Hope you get front end.
Thank You. I should hear today or tomorrow. They were starting on it yesterday.
I'm trying to figure out why you want to put fender washers you mentioned for the fender brackets. It looked to me like there was already a plate welded o the inside for those bracket bolt. It also seems to me that fender washer will fall on the side curves and my bend the fender there if you tighten it up tight.
You're right. I tend to "overkill."
Hi Mike, I'm really enjoying your Flathead 80 project. Can't wait to see you install the old VL springer.....when it gets back from the shop. I notice you've left the rear stand catch on the bobbed fender. I apologize if you've already been asked this question, but are you planning to have a rear stand on this bike?
It's so easy to do that I'll look at it both ways. They are a great convenience.
Very cool Mike...coming together surely!....how come camera man mike whispers and doesnt get involved in the video?...
We don't mess with him. He's doing fine.
I love the look of a rigid frame. Last time I rode one was in the early 70s when I rode my roommates rigid Triumph. It hurt my back back then, I can’t imagine what it would feel like now.😕
There are ways to do it right. Hopefully, I can show you one of them.
Pacific Mike that would be nice
Mike, I tried mocking up the rear fender on my 52 PAN build and not sure about the fit on the U clamps. I have two sets supposedly same part number but have differing heights. The shorter height ones would need washers in between the clamps and fender or they would cause a deep crease in the fender. The taller ones would leave a small gap in between the fender and and cross bar so really don't make a tight fit. which ones would be correct?
The only really "correct" ones are originals. We all generally use reproductions and have to modify them a little. Each situation is a little different. These are the things facing all of us. Sometimes you just have to get real "creative."
Hey mike love your channel learning a lot I have a question for you have you heard of a Saxon scepter 2009 I have a transmission seal leaking on the Primary input side
Thank You. I don't advertise products as yet. Good luck with your trans seal.
hi mike, one point the last video, it is called an inclinometer question what are you going to run on this bike 6 volt or 12 volt system. Keep up the good work cheers
Thank You. I didn't want to redo the video. I had to laugh at myself. How many people are lucky enough to have "kind" critics?' The bike will have a magneto for ignition and a 12volt system for lighting and a voltage drop for the horn. Too much stuff.
Mike are you going to build the motor or is it already built? Great videos!!!
We'll build it. Look at the earlier videos on this thing. You might like them.
Thumbs up. 👍
Thanks for the visit
I really like the look of the rear fender. Hope you don't paint it. Excellent video. Thanks
I like things nice. It will have to be filled and painted.
Hey Mike, hope you're well, love the videos! As always! I know u don't advertise, but I gotta ask where you get all the great hardware (nuts, bolts, washers, etc.) Local store, special order, or what? Thanks for doin what u do! Thanks again!
Thank You. Some of the hardware is just misc. chrome nuts, bolts, and washers I buy at the local hardware store. Living in Southern California, the hardware stores carry this stuff because of all the car and bike freaks. The special stuff is all Colony brand kits, which are carried by all of the major aftermarket Harley Davidson parts suppliers. You can also buy chrome hardware from the aftermarket guys, usually in bags of 10 each of whatever you need.
@@pacificmike9501 once again Mike Thanks for the info and I wish you and yours well! Appreciate you sharing everything! Have a good night my friend!
Love that old school stuff get that hammer 🔨 ready lol
Okayfine.
You keep getting me eveeytime
Thank You.
👍👌😎 thanks Mike. Role on ! Can I ride it when it’s done? Ha Ha !
In a word, "no."
Jackass
Mike, What Counter Sprocket ( tooth count ) are you running for today's roads with you 4 speed .
This one will be huge, 26. But Flatheads are all torque.
hello Mike
I did not completely understand,
is the overflow of the box the pipe that fits into the frame?
It"s just a breather hose from the transmission. The original breather was open to the atmosphere. With this one,the hose is pointed down so that water does not get into the transmission.
@@pacificmike9501 bonne idée, ok
Very Cool 👍. Have you settled on a color??
Can't tell everything at once. This is going to be so traditional and so different, all at the same time.
Mike! Regarding your battery try, Could you weld a flat peace of steel plate to the bottom of the oil tank, thus doing away with the original battery try?
I don't like the way Harley used a hammer, to adjust a badly fitted try. Bottom line is, the frame top tubes should have been 1/2 inch higher in the first place!
If they had spent time doing a mock build, like you are doing, --- the problem would not have accrued in the first place.
Anyway; I always did mock builds, on all my Triumphs in the 1970/80's.
Like yourself, I had to find ways to improve the whole ride. Still love proper USA/British Iron, because of the good metal used.
Looking forward to your next video and nice to hear some common sense bike building.
Thank You.
Mike have you rode the live wire yet ?
Verry torquey excellent intown bike .
I have not. I gotta check it out.
@@pacificmike9501 well I definitely gotta add a e bike to my collection. But they want $40k for Harleys livewire but other brands can be bought for 15-18 k
Do you plan on painting the frame? If so, what color?
We're not there yet. The frame will need some modifications first.
doing it by braille... amazing how we can do that... : )
It's easy. Just need eyeballs in your finger tips.
LOL
🖤🔥
Thank You.
One bolt at a time.
Yep. Just me and Johnny Cash.
Are you going to run #50 chain on this one or 530?
Probably 530.
All those parts that someone might trash
Oh well.
i like to build them but its the cleaning gets your knuckles
Nah, it's just fun.
Lovein the Build Mike! Thinking about all your parts your always getting that you already have? Like to be able to go in there? I could probably build a Nice Bike out of ALL the parts You Have? Let me know, I could use a Classic old bike.👍Thanks Mike!
It's taken me a lifetime to gather my treasures. You know, one man's trash....
👍🏻💯
Thank You.
'Ah, behold the horseshoe bloodbank, & it's quadrangle plaza for volts,
a stout ledge & bracket lasagne, layered rightly, to suiteth the bolts.
For if one stacketh within the wrong order, & thy fasteners now fall a tad short,
don't force them to reach, nor swing like a monkey, re-fit in the manner you ought.
Odd stresses are bad news for brackets, & they don't like to carry 'squint' load,
but if your clampage doth crack them don't worry, as you'll soon find them out on the road.'
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Mike, there is now a teabag in England with your name on it. (Sorry, we drank 'A.M.' this morning.)
Good coffee? Very little here since the Romans left - (Italian roast, good stuff, helped them build their roads straight : )
I have coffee here. I want to go to England and have Tea with you. What fun. Maybe. I really enjoy your poetry. Thank You again.
The bolt looks to long?
Maybe it's a "mockup."
That's way better than Meccano or Lego. You had me fooled for a few minutes, why were you putting an oil tank on a battery tray? Shows how much I know about Harleys. Lack of joined-up thinking in the design dept isn't exclusive to HD though. In the Zeppelin factory museum in Friedrichshaven in Germany you can see the development of the Mercedes engines they used to power the blimps. Quite clearly the inlet and exhaust manifold designers didn't talk with the cylinder head designers. The cylinder heads had four valves per cylinder yet the intake and exhaust gases had to travel along narrow tubes through many 90 degree angles. No one thought of the air mass squeezing around corners through narrow tubes, but the cylinder head designers knew what should be done. Clearly they didn't tell the manifold department.
Interesting.
Maybe you've probably already covered this but how much horsepower and torque are you looking to get from your motor on this bike Mike? Are you changing any of the gearing to get more speed or torque? Less sprocket teeth on the wheel?
Massive torque and tall gearing will make it a great roadbike. The only numbers I care about are mph.
Bungee cord that tank lol free up those hands lol
Some times I do that for a mockup. Not a bad way to do it, when you only have two hands.
Battery trays and oil tanks all have rust in the back left corner as the water sits there when the bike is parked.
Yup.