You WON'T believe what caused this WATER LEAK
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2017
- On this REAL Rogue - Matts friend calls him up to solve a mystery regarding a wet spot on his slab on grade foundation that won't go away! Of course Matt brought his camera to document this whole investigation... Don't mind the shotgun mic above (we'll call it Robs beard)
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7:02 Throws the hammer down onto the tiles like a noob.
That really irked me too.
You won't believe what caused this water leak!
It was a guy with a plunge-cut saw, who even knew that the pipe was there before cutting...
Whoever did the soldering job sucks this is why you pay Professional plumbers not handymen
So it could look nice and pretty where no one will ever see it? Foh
@@googleplex7097
Good joints look good...
This plumbing work screams lawsuit.
F Huber anybody can connect copper lol u plumbing guys are something else
Has an infrared moisture meter, but not a $20 scope.
lol
Has infrared moisture meter. Finds wet spot by noticing wet grout and separated baseboard. Excellent buy.
And he actually thought there was suspect moisture in the fucking bathtub lmaoo
It’s an infrared temperature meter not moisture
When I moved into my new to me house, I replaced all the trim and floor boards. Fifteen years later, the carpet in our family room was slightly damp in one small area and would not dry out. Turns out I drove a nail into a pipe that was running along the drywall. Not in the middle of the wall or anything, right along the drywall in a notch in the stud. No plates or anything to protect it. It took that full 15 years for the leak to develop.
Billy Beemus ,,,, well Bub you should have used stainless nails !!! I told a few carpenters the same thing, DAM YOU JIMMY !!!! Use stainless nails when you shoot into my water lines !!! Lol. It’s been a year since your post, hope all is well in your house !
As a plumber myself I can say a few things that my tribe could have done better. Where is the sleeve to protect the copper pipe from the concrete? Why was the pipe brought up near the face of the wall. There should have been a nail plate, installed by my tribe member, over any area reasonably expected to get trim. As for the wood butcher tribe; they hit our pipes all the time, the smelly bunch of drunks. Carry on.
Would that sleeve for the pipe be a kind of wrap? Agreed, shelf life for that pipe in concrete was greatly shortened by knuckle draggers.
jaisvikt normal would be for the water pipe to be sheathed in foam insulation (looks like a pool noodle) and further sleeved in a continuous plastic tubing material from where the pipe enters the form or slab until it exits without a joint or break in the plastic sleeve below the level of concrete to be poured.
Water pipe, even insulated and sleeved, is NEVER to be secured to rebar or any reinforcement or concrete forms themselves. The plumber puts in his own stakes or wooden jigs to secure the pipe in position before the concrete is poured.
Waste pipe is wrapped in foam (handicap wrap) anywhere it is within concrete.
This is how it is done properly and passes California bay area code.
Edited for typos clarity.
Thx
Matthew Edwards also who taught this hack how to sodder so ugly
Perfect
Nice how you dropped the hammer on the tiled floor. In someone's home, I always use clean canvas drop sheets to work on. You should also consider using them
Exactly my thought also! I’m cringing
I was going to comment the same thing. Threw the hammer on a tile floor like a noob.
Dropped? Threw!
I want to see him troubleshoot electricity next.
lol
lol
Yeahhhh- wonder how that would go....
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Ya
Haha. No
@@tfl2155 yes
@@tfl2155 yes
I like when he talks about a few lessons to be learnt there’s no mention of his own mistakes
Thank you for showing the entire trial and error. You did an excellent job.
That's a great comment. A lot of DIY or Construction Pro CZcamsrs videos edit everything to make the worker seem infallible, but the reality of most projects in other peoples homes is that there are a lot of trial and error situations, even with high quality equipment that can detect moisture in this case!
Unless for some MAJOR reason they couldn't, I would have disconnected the plumbing from the vanity and pulled out the vanity rather then cutting holes in it. It's just disconnecting the water lines and the sink drain. Not hard to do.
@David Paepke "FAIL" !
Your cameraman could use a haircut.
its the mic lol
I know, I have to give Matt a hard time when I can, he makes such good videos! This was a brutal mistake on the carpenters. Always laughed at guys in the field using 3"+ nails for a 3/4" baseboard.
Nicholas Hartzler Really, thats hilarious, I was thinking the camera guy had one of thoes '60 Bushy Bon hair doos.
camera person is a wearwolf identifying transgender lesbian
don t discriminate
That’s the new fuzzy lens shade.
As a plumber myself, when you started cutting into the vanity, I cringed. I would have removed the vanity. This would dry the area faster and better and cost less.
Agreed, cant do a nice repair on that either, gonna have to be replaced regardless. Taking the vanity out takes actually less effort than cutting it and all it takes is some caulking to make it brand new. And yeah its a much faster and more thorough drying process.
Totally agree, when he even cut that first hole I was like WTF that's amateur man only remove once you can prove you have pin pointed the area, he was just guessing without thinking first. He did guess right with the nail in the pipe so I will give him thumbs up on that.
That’s why a plumber shouldn’t do any work other than plumbing. WAY more work than necessary to remove vanity, granite counter top AND put it back with caulking, painting and making it not look like patchwork. Holes inside vanity VERY easy to fix and you will NEVER see it.
You guys are saying quite the opposite.
I’m only a DYI’er but while I like the idea of pulling out the vanity to gain better access and help ensure thorough drying, that would be a much larger job and put the bathroom virtually out of commission for a week or more because of drying.
I had this happen in the kitchen and I removed the floor and back wall of two cabinets and removed the Sheetrock and insulation. Let it dry for 2 weeks then repaired. The kitchen was always functional and no one would know of the repair unless I emptied the cabinets and showed them. Plus, I would have needed a strong helper or two to pull the granite off and then later again to return it. That would have been a bigger nightmare.
I got two more cents. I think Matt cut the first hole because that allowed access behind the tub which also was against the outside wall where the leak was draining to. But the origin of the leak was perpendicular to that spot. Cutting a hole into the bottom of the vanity was useless but cutting a hole into the back of it is a toss up. Remember, we have hindsight to criticize how he did it. Myself though, I think removing the vanity would had been my first choice, but the leak was really behind the toilet. So my work would have been wasted? The fact is finding leaks can be tricky, messy and expensive. That is a cost that should be passed on to the customer because contractors don't have crystal balls, well at least ones that work, and you got to start somewhere.
Nice cabinets buddy.... I'm a saw loads of holes in it!
What language you speekee?
All in the name of building science!
Logic said the problem was in the larger bath considering it was newer, and the green moss on exterior wall indicated exactly where leak was.
He must have just got that moisture sensor 😂
Twice I've seen this and been like "this man needs a snake cam for his phone, save cutting giant holes in everything
I really enjoy these informative videos. I'm no carpenter, but I've had minimal experience with just about everything, just haven't learned the advanced stuff. It's really amazing how carpenters can make some of this stuff look easy.
Wow, this is unreal, thanks for posting! Never thought of this ever happening, good to know! Great Video, thanks!
I learned how much a inexperienced person can cause damage to a bathroom
@YoYO Semite wow that's horrible. I wonder how many times that guy did that type stuff over the years.
@YoYO Semite and there are plenty of us who go the extra mile and triple check everything. I would not continue working if I didn't have nail plates.
You are probably one of those who doesn't trust contractors so you use "Handymen". A nightmare waiting to happen.
@@neilkynaston6091 - there are a few handyman you tubers that should not be making videos. This guy though is a very experienced builder and friend or not has the worst possible approach to finding the leak - even worse they left the water on and pulled out the plug. Take the vanity out sooner or later so the area will dry our quicker and yes Mr. home owner that is mould which for some reason You Seppos are shit scared about.
Slack/sloppy (built to sell, with minimum 'after-market-protection' for the consumer) UBC construction.
Note: Below-grade plumbing is poorly positioned and encased in concrete, increasing the risk of damage.
2. Professional remodelers would make SURE 'fastenings' would not damage infrastructures.
6:00 *TLDW* = He has a theory that there is a nail through a pipe somewhere. As he does his fault-finding he cuts holes in walls rather than using an inspection camera. 8:40 He sees 3 copper pipes potentially leaking. 10:30 You get to see it is a nail in a copper pipe causing it to constantly spray a tiny jet of water. 11:20 You see that there are actually 2 nails as another pipe has the problem too. You're welcome.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!
@@billsprestonesq9805 Yes! This is one of those videos that was worth making timestamps for because the uploader imparted good information and the timestamps can be a way to help people in addition to that.
:)
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
Nice find guys, that was a tough one. I find and fix leaks like that for a living so it was sad to hear the leak detector you guys called couldn't find it. Tell your buddy those soft copper pipes going through his slab will cause some headaches in the future
Whoever installed that tankless water heater needs a damn level.
Do not throw a hammer on a finished tile floor
YoYO Semite that was a ‘hollow tile’ test hammer throw...... highly technical move.....lol
@@mandatethis8024 Where was the hammer part? I missed it
Coach just before he actually discovered the source , he tosses the hammer on the tile floor
@@coach714 @7:02
@@south02m I just heard and saw it!! I cringed at the thought. Thanks for the time
Watching from the UK. Thanks.
Matt, I really appreciate this video, because this issue is my greatest fear anytime I do work on any wall that is near waterlines.
Don't let people rip holes like this in your home. We now use inspection cams. One small round hole is much easier to fix then mudding and tapping a cut out. And if the cam does not pan out which sometimes happens. Then cut out a section.
Facts Bro There Going leave It SO you Can Fix
august They don't need to dry out the first hole dudebro cut.
I wanna watch you fix a leak through a half inch hole.
@@scottheller1663 Right? Some of these commenters have no clue.
"I'll use my Festool Plunge Saw to cut another hole here", Looking for some sponsorship are we? Jeez. I've been a plumber for 40 years and have diagnosed many leaks, but never have I destroyed someones house like that.
maybe we can have a small tv show like this. Destroy a house to fix an issue. Sounds fun.
Also the sad thing is he's making money. Destroys his "buddies" house. Easy leak to detect and nope destroys the place and the amount of times he says let's use my iPhone. Trying to aim for sponsorships indeed.
I once fixed my uncles house, he had a leak and we fixed it without tearing apart his house, shocking I know.
Matt, the same happened at my son's place. He had water on his basement bathroom floor and thought it was from showering. We installed new flooring upstairs and when we removed a baseboard and water started shooting out of a plastic water line. Yes someone had put a trim nail into the water pipe.
Cuts a hole see’s wetness immediately says “we found the source of the leak”
This guy is unreal !!! He's about as subtle as fireworks.
Destroys half the bathroom to fix a leak..... SMH
How would you have fixed it hotshot? Or maybe just ignore it? While I'll agree that the vanity now has some holes, they are both hidden by the drawers once you patch them. As far as the drywall behind the toilet it had to be replaced because it's wet. Maybe don't say anything when you're obviously out of your element
@@jarrodhollenbeck4284 I see what you did great job . Guess he thought you should have taken the whole thing out and charged alot more to fix all of it .
@@jarrodhollenbeck4284 This is a reply from an actual plumber "As a plumber myself, when you started cutting into the vanity, I cringed. I would have removed the vanity. This would dry the area faster and better and cost less."
He tossed his hammer on the tile ... Dude.
This was great Matt! Same 'cut inspection holes' method I use for my victims...mobile home and RV owners. The only difference is that materials are thinner, so they're easier to cut.
Matt....this is a very cool video showing cause and effect of what can happen when you nail into a wall into pipes. Your channel is one of the best in YT!
Really? A nail is what you thought I woudn't believe caused a water leak? I was expecting something like a leprechaun or a tiny alien with a laser gun.
Ah ha I found moisture tear holes here and here. Take this wall out. No nail plate at pipe.
Ion Ymous you need to learn proper literacy my friend. Dumb af
Its not that bad of a title but that was really funny anyway
It was a Mexican with a nail gun.
@@gfunk449 why it had to be a Mexican what are you a trump lover and a racist...?
Send this video to DFW Crown Molding. They showcase, (on CZcams,) how to drive nails into drywall, without locating the center of studs; professionally. They are the the best at it.
Truly, the person who drove that nail into that pipe is lucky it wasn't a live 220 volt electrical line.
totally true...
Matt Risinger I went to a small job, had to pull a base cap off a stair stringer. I started to smell gas. (Panic mode.) The person who installed the base cap, drove a nail right through a yellow flexible gas line. When I pulled the cap I pulled the nail out of the gas line.
At the time I had no idea where the gas was coming from, and had no idea where the shut off was.
Scary stuff!
Michael Stiller who in there right mind puts flexible gas line in a wall it should be straight pipe inside any wall
Great information and troubleshooting techniques...thanks!!
Very educational! Thanks for the post.
I had that exact thing happen one time when my guys went and put stucco on a third floor exterior wall. Like 2 weeks later the customer called said it's pouring water down stairs.. a trim nail was stuck in it. Since water is low pressure, when the copper expands and contracts with temperature it began to leak..
so, run around with a silly tool, then randomly cut holes in walls without even looking nor feeling around for obvious signs. this falls under "nailed it" :)))
lmao, dead laughing!
Great videos! I love learning from you. Just found you and have watched two of your videos and you do a great job.
Excellent job.
My contractor did the exact same thing during laminate flooring install. They hit a water line coming into the hallway bathroom, and slowly flooded my daughter's room in Killeen,TX about 11 years ago. Needless to say it costed more money to replace outside siding to get to the problem.
We had that same exact thing happen in a two story home. Crazy thing is it would only become evident every other year or so. When we started remodeling and removed the baseboards in the upstairs bathroom is when the nail came out and the floodgates opened...
Nice detective work. Good find.
Great detective work! Very informative. Learned a lot, thanks!
Too many expensive tools not enough common sense.
"All the gear, no idea" as we say in England!
What would you have done differently?
Explain.
As a plumber myself, I’d like to know.
@@zachhawes1369 probably check around all water sources in the vacinity before cutting inspection holes
AVE. Construction FARKEN Oaf son
Can’t believe I gave this douche “benefit of the doubt”
Stoneforth
He could removed the socket and look inside instead of cutting big inspection hole
I had a similar nail in the pipe we had just finished a remodel and the cleaning crew called freaking out beacause the floors were soaked , took me about a hour to find the dam thing but it was a dumb home owner repair from 30 years before the current owner had it, I still have the pipe chunk to show peope why we use punch proof plates.
Nice work. Nice approach.
Good catch!
after 42 yr.'s plumbing i'ved learned to install "nail plates" every where. they make all sizes to cover waste, water, vent, Hvac piping. can't think that the carpenter is going to use 1 1/4" screws or nails. they work............
I call them nail guards but good point.
yes they do.... i have a 100 pk box
The carpenter put a nail through the drywall and into a pipe. A nail plate isn't going to prevent that.
Put some flex-seal tape around the pipe. Fix her right up. LOL
Good lesson. Thank you.
As I see your thought process. Its elimination- keep eliminating pieces of the house and eventually you'll find what you're looking for
Matt, instead of cutting an 8"x16" hole in drywall to inspect, just drill a 1/2" hole and use this inspection camera: www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-M-Spector-360-Degree-Digital-Inspection-Camera-Kit-with-One-1-5-Ah-Battery-and-Tool-Bag-2313-21/202932657 ... makes it quick and easy to inspect multiple areas, and patches are super quick
Very helpful content. Thank you very much!
OMG! UNBELIVABLE!
This is so far off away from I guessed. Thank you for your quality content.
I never would of believed it was a nail, never!
Great video! Excellent approach to finding the problem and explaining your thought process.
Tankless water heater on the OUTSIDE of the house ??? must be somewhere you don’t have to worry about freezing.
The importance of pre-planning your plumbing routing when doing additions. Access panels that are removable are a great idea as well.
That video really helps me understand, thanks
300 holes later ....yay
7 Diaz he’s a idiot
Wow. Nice job finding problem.... half house has holes... why cut cabinet bottom?... crazy.
maybe he was high as fuck while doing this video
Awesome!!!! You’ve nailed it on the spot!
Nice troubleshooting!!
Would love to see more of these forensic videos! Thanks Matt
Like when my mom and dad had a leak in the wall. They thought that they would have to replace the whole roof. I cut through the wall and found that the water was coming through the chimney flashing and going down a timber to the wall. The flashing was a very cheap fix compared to a whole roof replace.
That was really interesting watching you isolate the leak. Thanks for sharing. Also makes you think about the length of your finish nails a little more - and taking the time to mark studs so you nail into the right location.
Real cool video, watching you trouble shoot the problem. Would love to see more vids like this
Great video. Would love to see more of this type of DIY, homeowner-help videos mixed in with your normal high-end remodels.
thanks Gabe. I will.
Water detector was cool that’s about it
Awesome video Matt! It's a shame such a nice (and probably expensive) bathroom was ruined due to minor negligence.
The bathroom was ruined? What video were you watching? A good trim carpenter would consider that a minor repair.
Very good video ...thank you
great video and teaching
LOL, I'll give you credit for posting this comedy of error and common sense
On a site I was working, I heard a brad nail went through some copper wiring... I could definitely smell it when I got there.
Awesome find man. WOW
Good job!
Oh, please don't do click-bait titles. I almost dismissed this video out of hand because the title looked just like it would on another schlocky channel. Your content is great, and speaks for itself!!
You won't believe... although it was the first thing he guessed when they narrowed it down to the vanity and toilet area. Still clickbait.
I can't believe all the huge holes being cut when a little drill and a scope would have done the job.
He’s pretty neat, the plumbers I’ve known in the past would have used a Mel hammer to smash holes everywhere ! ⚒
Good information.
I spit up my coffee laughing. "Is that water from the outside? No no someone had a shower."
If she is dry, then the nailing pattern is complicated.
she claims she likes it
Filmed in Whisker Vision!
One thing you can do for the immediate purposes, and it actually will hold up possibly indefinitely, but it's not elegant, is you can just grab a piece of bicycle inner tube and a hose clamp. Cut a small chunk of inner tube to fit over the leak and most of the way around the pipe, then hose clamp that inner tube into place. That will stop your copper pipe leak easy without having to leave the water off and you can then have time to figure out what you're going to do for a real fix. Oh btw i like I like that FLIR moisture meter I might have to get one of those.
Good find! I had a similar situation but it was a pinhole leak. Makes a real mess. I usually go directly where the copper lines are in the walls and evaluate how bad the area is. I cut a hole where it's the most saturated.
I think you should invest in a cheap endoscope for checking inside cavities.
jeseuess... I thought that was someones hair hanging over the lens of a go pro.
Matt,
You sure did a lot of damage before finding the problem. First thing to always look at is the water meter to see if its a supply side leak. That said, you could have been a lil more patient with your fancy moisture detector tool, but that would have made a boring video. I sure hope you did your friend a solid by upgrading his vanity for him! Keep up the great building science vids....
Frank Cirillo why did you reply to my comment. And the holes in that cabinet are under a drawer... you’ll never see them.
Frank Cirillo , in the foreigner stated that the plumber did a pressure test.
I thought it was a boom mic
weird using someones name as a cuss word. I assume you are more intelligent than to follow the crowd mindlessly.
Love this video. Very helpful.
Great video!!
Dude. They make super cheap, but decent, gooseneck cameras with lights now. Start with the tiny 1" hole and go from there.
Good cabinets buddy.. just gonna cut a hole in it even tho my moisture meter could have told us that it was showing moisture. Oh and even if I cut the hole we can't fix the issue from the hole in the bottom of your vanity. Nice vanity tho. Also love how buddy cut the wall to the bathroom.. textured drywall.. even tho he knew there wasn't moisture there. If you're going to own a flir... know how it works.
Ken Shmo hahaha I was searching the comments to see if anyone else was thinking what I was thinking, and I found it!
That pissed me off and its not even my house!
I very much like the video. I have chased simular problems, I used a borescope camera and 1/4" hole to inspect inside walls. The cameras I got was less than $20 at Amazon. Paul Rice Lake Charles, LA.
Thank you for the video. It is really an eye opener
Instead of guessing & just cutting holes everywhere in the walls call an experienced plumer..
@Max Zamora Yet you can't use a silly period "." at the end of a sentenance? Max, learn how to properly construct a sentenance before talking shit to someone, it just looks better ya silly dooshnozzle.
ArtisannasitrA Dooshnozzle?? I haven’t laughed that hard in a while...... good one ...silly ... Dooshnozzle?? Priceless
"sentenance"?
@@artisannasitra6725 coming from another person who can't spell correctly
@@DDunc1020 @Burt Bowers started it... :-) "plumer"... lol.
I have done many plumbing jobs and one thing you do not do is place a pipe that close to a wall and if you do, you put a steel barrier in front and wear is the insulation. If it was to get cold then we have a chance of bursting pipes also. 2 dummies, the plumber and the carpenter for using such long nails. thanks for the video.
nice catch!
In the past, when I still had a house that was undergoing remodeling that included a new master bathroom, the plumber was very meticulous in using nail shields at every point where drywall was to be installed, sufficient to protect the pip s from misplaced nails!
“Couple lessons learned here” think before you go chopping up expensive cabinets and maybe get a cheap $20 endoscope.
Oh, sure, but wait until you find out WHERE he uses the endoscope! Ouch!
I still can't believe he randomly cut a hole in the cabinet. Like he's high or something. Who does that? If an old tube TV was broken, he'd probably cut a square hole on the side of it
agree with the endoscope... it has been illuminated many problems in our house non destructively.
That was weak ass leak detection job, didn't even try to charge the lines or listen to the loudest angle stops, the bedroom cut was completely unnecessary
I wanna see him cut the entire wall down. Those textured walls are groooooss
@@bloggerswork899 i'm sure it was free since he's a friend.. jeez you guys are harsh AF.
Most plumbers would have left without doing anything.
Excellent!
Good find!!!!!
I had a dead electrical outlet on a back to back kitchen on some new construction. I had power to the plug on the opposite kitchen and I thought I had fished the wire to the wrong unit. Turned out that the stucco guys had nailed through and sheared my hot completely and the nail caught the opposite unit wire and energized it via the nail.