I was BLOWN AWAY by this innovation in REAL Hardwood Floors!
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- Matt wraps up coverage from the www.remodelingdeck.com/en/hom... with a hardwood flooring product you've never seen before www.stellerinnovations.com
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MUY buena calidad, el texto imagenes. czcams.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO Un manuel muy completo y trabajado. Resulta muy práctico. Para principiantes y profesionales. Lo recomiendo
"If you're watching overseas somewhere, don't bother. He's got patents!"
*Laughs in Chinese*
Exactly! *Challenge Accepted!
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Noah Hastings yea Chinese can care less. Part of the problem with patents is the product design is plainly shown.
You’re right. It wouldn’t be protected unless they get patented IN China as well.
Even that is wobbly. Oh they changed the color? Patent invalid.
I am a carpenter and have laid numerous hardwood floors. Many oak floor boards are bowed, warped and cupped. Without nailing them to some sort of sub structure you will never get all of the boards to "pull up". Even if you kiln dry the boards, which would greatly increase the cost, they are still prone to distortion over time.
Yeah I came to the commits to look for this very topic. In an older wood framed building that moves a lot, what's' to keep any boards that warp some from popping up or letting go of other boards?
My thought was about those plastic runners he is using to anchor the boards together. Plastic = petrol product = brittle over time. I wonder what the effect is in 10 years.
@@erich6860 looks like wire mold track, but even if it did go brittle. Nail them down like a normal board.
@@vicgarrison8968 nailing the track down is one thing, it is the plastic "S" shape that you cannot do anything about.
@@erich6860 nail the boards down. like a normal floor board..
Thanks Matt for bringing this rad new product to our attention! Buy the little guy!
Hoping to put some patented family ideas on the market soon too! Great product idea and wishing that little company all the best!
Hey Matt, Currently renovating my master bedroom and home office. Thanks to you i haven't felt lost during this whole entire project. I am confident i am choosing the best materials and installing them with the best know how. Thanks again! I am actually looking at hardwood floors right now so this video comes just in time :)
Wow. The possibilities for places to hide my weed are endless.
Sincerely,
Your Kids
where there's a will there's a way.
Nah...I'm Canadian. I hide my weed in plain sight. ;)
Floor furnace removed Way long ago. That 'patch' of different wood has always given me the thought, but too obvious.
Install new floor cause you WANT stash place. A patch is 'just' that - no furnace, right? =]
Yeah well your kids would have to get off their arse and figure out how this works and since they're too stoned to do so I'm not worried.
Ah I heard about this one hippy getting raided by the feds, they got the few plants in his house but missed all the ones in his back yard staked down flat with the ground.
He was sweating bullets. XD
This is a great find can't wait to see more information on this
The hardwood floor in my house is nailed down ... it hasn't moved for 150 years. People knew who to work back then, it's as simple as that
Mine is 51 years old and hasn't moved.
Yeah, neither of you have the least clue what you're talking about.
Wood is always moving. Your furniture, the studs in your house, your doors, your hardwood floor, all of it.
People a hundred or two hundred years ago didn't know anything more than does the construction industy today. The difference you're seeing is houses still left from 100+ years ago were either some of the best-built examples, or are in horrible shape today. Most of the "mass build" stuff from back then is either already gone or in the process of going.
Back then, products were expensive and labor was cheap. It's the opposite today.
Very few people today, just like then, are willing to pay for superior quality. They want cheap crap; thus the Lumber Liquidators, box store defects, corner-cutting builders producing stuff that smells of new paint when it's bought, and problems start showing up three years later.
If you're willing to spend 15-25% more than for the cheap crap, you can have great houses.
Btw, this isn't going to sell because the price point far outweighs the minor problems of nail-down.
Keith Graham i
@@keithgraham9547 Unless you,, ie. the contracting owner takes pride in ownership of an excellent, intelligently engineered beautiful and strong floor AND it's for your forever home, likely to be handed down to your children (provided in your will that it can't be sold by them unless under financial duress for "X" number years, etc.). Hell, it wouldn't take me a split second to decide to opt for this floor if what's in presentation is true. I've seen waaay too much crap floors in new bulids up to 20 or more years old. Lesson I learned very early in life that applies to everything is you get what you pay for.
Keith Graham oh brother
$24 psf... ouch. I was hoping you could just buy the plastic connectors / router knives and mill my own wood to whatever type I want and size I want. Maybe someday but, this cost is insane!
That's insane. Mid grade oak/cherry/teak is $5-10/sf + $3-5/sf for installation. $24/sf is quite a premium.
Wow thats prohibitive
Yeah the price on some of these are just insane. Just like windows, you have to get a second mortgage to replace them.
To start the minimum is 2000 sqft. That's like a third of what my house cost me to buy. Cool system, but definitely not worth the cost.
Yeah this is cool but there is NO WAY IN HELL it's worth a 6 fold premium over unfinished oak..... i could hire the floor installed twice for the difference vs doing it myself. If someone else does it i don't care how easy the install is. Also it's worth noting the MAX is 2,000 sq ft not minimum.
It’s a great idea for residential. I’d be curious how it can hold up in a commercial setting where they normally go with a glue down instal.
That is really a sweet sweet idea. I hope everything goes well for you!!
Awesome, I love the design and ease installing and replace. Awesome
From a business perspective, he would be a lot better off if he licensed the tech to other floor manufacturers and took a royalty, rather than try and mill his own floors and compete with them. Think VHS vs. Betamax. Beta was better tech, but VHS was more widely available.
I agree, I would buy this today if it was available at my local store.
Once they're certain it is reliable and they won't be sued by those companies over their licenses sure... but until then go back to business school.
This^^^^^ (What David M said). As a former trade officer for the Australia Trade Commission, I can tell you that founders/developers don't understand: It is much better to have 5% of a $100,000,000 ($5 million) than to have 100% of a $5,000,000 company. The existing companies have the distribution streams, the marketing savvy, the muscle. The 100% model would take years to get to. His path to profit is faster with the 5% route. Developers/founders are not good marketers. They are great at developing. Alas, too many allow their ego and their pride at achieving an excellent product get in the way of their moving on to the next wonderful thing their mind can dream of. Love, love, love this idea. Wishing him and his family so much luck and success.
They can still license it to other manufactures. It could be part of their master plan.... Lets not knock their business until they actually have a business.... :)
@@faudi23 Agree, it's smart business to just license a solution like this. He could make all the money and not have to deal with the issues of running a company.
Excellent innovation but couple of things:
1) If you've got a plank that is warping and it is not attached to the floor - it will simply lift the entire section or make if play under your feet.
2) nothing stops these planks from traveling lengthwise creating weird gaps in your floor as you walk on it + eventually absorbing water.
3) underfloor heating may soften or damage that plastic profile.
And speaking about patents:
The strength of your patents is only as strong as the cost for the lawyers you can afford. As you are not going under the protection of your local "floor-making oligarch" - you have no chance protecting it against one either domestically or internationally.
Secondly - you can't protect against companies that are making the tools for making these boards and other companies selling the plastic profile (for say decorative purposes) so small manufacturers/individuals are going to produce it for personal use rendering your protection useless.
So you've produced something that you are trying to sell for 4 times the price of the normal hardwood floor. It is less protected, will play under your feet, and you are limited in your personal manufacturing capabilities/growth so you'll never have the money necessary to protect your patents. Sorry for raining on your parade mate.
You can’t copy the vinyl profile just cause you say it’s for decorative purposes. you know absolutely nothing about pattens. Yes it is extremely expensive to enforce a patent because the government doesn’t do it for you. not every patent is ripe for infringement. Yes the more successful the product is the more likely the patent will be infringed however the more successful it is the more money they will have to pay for the lawyers to go after the infringers
As for your comment number two if that actually turns out to be a problem which it may very well not all you’d have to do is stick the suction cup to any board that moved and tap it sideways with that mallet to put it right back and I really don’t think this is going to be a problem that’s going to happen over short periods of time if at all so like lots of things that require the screws be tightened every few years a few minutes of maintenance as described above every few years might be a small price to pay considering the advantages
Wow ! Great idea ! Can’t wait to ordered !
That flooring product is amazing. Sure be great for kitchens and basements. Love that you can easily take the floor apart!!
7:57 He was going to say stash your weed I swear :D
Lol
I'm lucky that I'm still alive. I went to their web site and saw the prices. Damn near had a heart attack!
JD Fisher hahaha
He ain’t kidding. It’s beyond ridiculous.
Pricing is absurd. Way out of price range of the average homeowner. Imagine spending $40,000 to put down hardwood floors in your 1800 sq ft home.
I just went to the web page as well. Pricing way to rich for my blood as well. Too bad, neat product. Price wise they would need to be able to compete with vinyl plank flooring to become competitive. Just my opinion. And yes, just like certain body parts, everyone has one. lol
Bob P. Yeah, even for a general contractor the cost savings aren’t offset by the speed of installation compared to overall costs
Mind blown-I’ll never be the same!!! Such a genius invention!!!!
Deep down I have a part of me that doesn't like change and will always want to use the methods that I already know, but innovations like this are so hard to overlook. This video certainly got my brain thinking about how a product like this could be so useful!
A German company tried that exact system 20 years ago, and it failed miserably. The plastic and hardwood had different expansion/contraction rates, and it kept separating itself when foot traffic or weight loads moved around.
Exactly my worry.
Happen to know what it was called? Would be interested in reading about it.
Trying to remember the name of the company. They also made a pergo style 7mm. I used it in a couple rooms about 13 years ago. Bought it from Cummins Tools, they always had the oddest shit sitting on palettes for cheap.
It wasn’t the exact same system. Plastics have evolved.
The way these boards are sealed on all sides, it looks like they may be counting on the seal to prevent any swelling from moisture.
As others have said, they need to license this to existing manufacturers and collect royalties.
Existing manufacturers understand the liability that comes with this floor.
We have a 'floating' wooden floor at our home. I live in Slovakia and this is completely normal. the parts are shaped that they fit into each other, so plastic is not even used as it is in this demonstration.
Depending on the price I don't see much benefit over high end snap together engineered flooring which can also be refinished.
$24 per square foot for red oak or hard maple. At that cost, you could literally put in a nice engineered hardwood floor. Wait ten years rip it out, wait another ten years rip that floor out and install the third floor! (based on $6sf for red oak engineered and $4 sf installation then banking the extra $14sf).
The price point puts off exactly the customers who are going to want to buy this: the DIY homeowner. If you have $24/ft kind of money to dump into your remodel, you aren't buying a (albeit much improved) click-lock flooring.
Yeah that’s beyond stupid. Only person this benefits is the installer if the material was owner provided.
Realistically I could see $11-$13 a square foot. After all, you are talking a wide plank oak or maple. But you are right, this would be a killer homeowner product but I can't see a homeowner dropping more than $10 over sf on a DIY project.
Ever walk on that clickity-clack engineered floor? Sure it’s durable, but noisy as heck and fakey looking. When Matt said Nobody likes a”look-alike” floor, he was talking about me!
DanielinLaTuna, I'm sorry but engineered floors nowadays don't make noise. The exception is that some people choose cheap $2 a sf garbage LAMINATE from Home Depot and then decide that they do not need to add proper underlayment or simply use the cheap foam underlayment. Secondly we are talking about engineered hardwood, not laminate. Engineered hardwood are typicly 12mm or thicker wheras the cheap HD laminate is under 1/8" thick.
I’ve laid enough wooden floors and I can tell you they aren’t straight, because wood does not just swell and shrink but also warps. Quality of the wood is more important.
That is pretty slick. I like that plank replacement system. Nice!!
This is a really cool invention! Maybe when I redo the floors in my upstairs living spaces, I’ll take a look at this.
That side locking system is good enough to keep the ends together? I guess it would be easy to push back together, but that could get annoying. And, what's the squeak like between the end joints? Yea, it's a cool idea, but those are questions you sould have answers for.
Well good that you in the US are trying to keep up. We had this in Sweden för 20+ years. Good job!
I was going to say the same about all the floors I've ever seen in Norway. :D
UK too...
Must be a dumb idea, like IKEA furniture.
It existed here in the US more than 20 years ago too, it just failed because wood and plastic expand at different rates and they will come apart over time with weight shifts and foot traffic causing wear.
@Will Roberts lol Norwegians have been brewing beer for over a thousand years. Craft brewing seemed to fall out of popularity sometime around 200 years ago, but was very common before that. (Where pretty much every farmhouse had its own brewery.) It's recently regaining popularity in the cities, but I'm sure out in the countryside people have been quietly brewing their own beer for centuries.
Great floor can’t wait to install one!
Liked that floor, I’ve installed a few with a nailer and can really appreciate the floating floor.
I am blown away as well (At the cost) outrageous
It's 3x more expensive then traditional hard wood!!!
Hardwood Rug!
Too late I have the patent. Just gotta keep it from falling apart
Necessity is the mother of invention. A definite improvement that I would consider for renovation.
This is FANTASTIC!!!
Although I think this isn't necessarily a bad idea, I can't see it being the next best thing since flush toilets. I always install my flooring systems "wall-2-wall"; under base cabinets in kitchens and bathrooms. So that alone would require removing all or most of them before you could just pull up the floor to dry it out or refinish it. And I already know "any" cabinet system would have to be removed to refinish any floor, and that's in part the exact point I'm making; this flooring system is no different than any other in this regard.
The only thing that differentiates this flooring system to me is being able to "suction cup" out pieces and replace them. But how often do you need to replace a single board? In my experience, it's usually the entire floor that would need to come out and be refinished; a single brand new board would stick out like a sore thumb in a 5 or even 2 year old floor. So is this actually a benefit? I'm not sure.
edit: Above all else it seems like it would save labor during the installation process, along with not needing a ton of knowledge to install it. This screams for the DIY market. So in this regard I could see it being offered in big box stores (orange and blue flavors particularly).
Years ago we used to install a product called “junkers” pronounced yawnkers. It was a Swedish company (I think) not an exact clip system, but very similar. I had nothing but problems with it cupping on every install. I hope yours works out. We would love to install something that’s going to save us time and money.
Did you miss the part about the price? This is about solving a pretty much non existent problem by moving SOME OF the labor cost to an offsite factory at a significant markup. Great for builders who will push it on less informed customers. It lets them use unskilled applicators while marking up material cost. All so they can avoid warranty issues (assuming all goes well)?
I replied about the same system, and yes solid wood, unrestrained will in fact cup........ wow who could have ever guessed
@@jeremiahlebeau7074 Especially 3.25 and wider.
Junkers is pure shit. The metal clips cost a fortune and you are correct Cupping is a big issue
I'm foreseeing gaps around door jams, from monkey's thinking it's easy and not under cutting jams. Probably going to see allot of caulking!🤣
Great job on you invention!! Love it.
Beautiful, good job , it works and it has future . Welldone . Good job .
Brilliant idea....also light enough for little houses. The snap in ...snap out concept opens so many possibilities. I only wonder about durability of tracks....not the wood.
You’ve got to cut the pieces near the wall and around doorways. That’s more than a two hour job.
Yup under cut door jams, then cut to fit, And ripping board length in hallways.
True, but you'd need to do that with any flooring. Still, if you could do a small room in 20 minutes like he said then that still gets you to the wall and doorway cuts quickly and you're done before lunch! If you use something like a QuickGauge Master Outline Gauge for your cut measurements then you're done even earlier.
Wow! Love it!
Super cool invention ! Great
I think ol' Clayton was really thinking about a different kind of stash.
Thank you Matt. Wow. If this system holds up over time, it would be one way to do a hard wood floor over heated concrete floor with very little prep work.
sounds good. i hope everything goes well so that it will become more common place and cheaper.
I really, really like this product!
"No one likes a wood look-a-like floor, trust me". That's easy to say coming from the guy who builds $1m + custom homes and has clients willing to spend $40k+ on natural hardwood floors...
And as for "if you're overseas you can't do this." LOL China.
i work in houses with hard wood flooring installed way back in the late 1800s and the only thing that needs to be done is some sanding and poly,done.
these days we keep coming up with shit like this that ends up costing 3 to 5 times more than the old way install, stop doing things wrong and we wont have to use contraptions like this or what you might call inovation. its a fricken wood floor not a space shuttle.
Big facts
This is awesome! Innovation is alive!
This is a game changer. Awesome!
So basically it's a floating real hardwood floor just like Pergo or DuPont Real touch but real wood......very nice indeed, I'm very surprised this was not invented long time ago. Great job guys.
Marc Favell it was but those of us that were using a system like this did not go thru and patent it years ago. Sometimes it’s just better to leave all the headaches for someone else.
I have used something very similar to this since around 1998. We made our flooring onsite and I started doing that shortly after the pergo system had come out and I installed it in a project and hated the sound as you walk across it and the first time something was dropped on it in the kitchen and it ruined a strip from a dent I started working on a solid wood alternative but always thought the big guys had to have had something similar in design already and that they probly had me beat to a patent so I never chased that dream.
I sure hope he does well with it and I’m proud of him for taking it start to finish. It’s s good system guys, give it a try on one of your jobs and I bet you’ll be happy and amazed!
@@1982MCI yeah but $25 US I think they will not do as good as they wood like to lol
It was. Junckers has been doing this for a long time
It's not like floating floors are a new idea at all.
@@TBGMyers czcams.com/video/ctzXU7CZ984/video.html
you wouldn’t want to plane a single damaged piece. you’d create a lip. 🤦🏼♂️
I think the idea is to plane the entire floor once it is too worn. For a single piece it would be cheaper to get a new plank.
You could also plane it and epoxy the top back to full height.
He's NOT an installer!!! He doesn't know shit about it ! This video is why there will allways be work for me, because people try and fail to do it themselves and realize that there is so much more to ALL aspects of this kind of job, like wall cuts with expansion joints, inside corners, outside corners, and the hardest,! Transitioning to existing flooring ! Good luck to ya and will wait for that phone call to come fix it!!!
Pete Sahli -- I don’t know if you’re right but I like your attitude
He said plane off 1/32 . The dip would be minimal . Maybe a couple coats of clear would make up the difference.
Great concept. Should be a winner.
I have to say that I was really impressed that he said that he was going to wait to push out hard literature. A lot of places would do the two hour test that he did and call that good enough.
Bogus claims. 40 sq ft in x minutes? Any competant flooring guy can do the same WITH PRECUT, PREFINISHED PIECES. Its not the nailing that takes the time, it is handling layout, cutting, finishing etc. The product may have value (i wonder about sound issues without any connection to the subfloor) but speed of installation is simply untrue.
The product (idea) has a lot of value, but you're right, nailing isn't the time waster. I wonder how hard it would be to make your own plastic groove links, it wouldn't take anything to mill some cuts into the wood. Appreciate your comment.
edit: saw another comment down below, why not just cut out the plastic and make it so the wood fits together already? I think this is some good stuff though, water damage is a lame piece of owning wood.
I agree about lack of increase in speed due to nails (kind of)
But, I mean.. you can't really deny that this is faster, easier, more efficient. You're talking no guns except in transition doorways, only a small trim air compressor for that, no fabricating the tongue or groove to get it to fit, slide, or otherwise, no spline, no glue, I mean shit man. That could easily double production speed if not triple or beyond.
I own a wood floor company. The question I have is the last board against the wall--without that plastic piece underneath... when it gets ripped down...I guess you'd shim that back edge? And same for picture frames around fire places or just patterned boardered floors? Bullnoses too? If there were pieces accommodating for those thicknesses, that would be cool.
I see problems unless the substrate is near perfectly level.
Ve9a Centauri You’re substrate should be nearly perfectly level regardless. But, in remodels, etc, that’s just not possible many times. I can see this product being working fantastic in new construction and additions.
Name the problems you see......
Many flooring types are floating without any issues
And as a flooring installer myself, I see that maybe 1 in 25 jobs!
@@joemaiuro3647 the difference here is that there is a track. that track will suspend the planks over dips in the floor. Typical floating floors do not have tracks.
But the substrate should be near perfectly level for installing hardwood floors.
WOW that is wild!
Amazing product!
Junkers flooring used to do similar clips system for years.
Still has that hollow sound when walking on it just like a floating floor. Just give me #1 red oak 3/4" standard flooring and a nailer.
This guy is gonna make so much money. Innovation is the golden key to success.
LOL no. marketing is the golden key to success.
Great idea!
"Pick this up and send it out for refinishing "
No miss, no fuss, huh?
Just make sure you have all the pieces in the right place
You'd have to plane more than one to keep them level. The tracks would be in the way of any sizable safe.
Would be interested to know if you could get the cutter and tracks to make your own flooring out of reclaimed pallet wood.
I loved it. Awesome
Good idea, we are already using something similar on the wall facade systems.
There are numerous "clip-on" systems for the internal wall decorations.
Its the sound that I usually dont like in floating floors... no matter what its on.
They have that in Japan long time ago.
When I work in the UK I was installed engineered hardwood floors, the top 3/8 was hardwood, the rest was plywood, it clipped together with metal clips and floated like laminate. The top could be sand and you could lift up the floor and reinstall it later to.
Could you lift up a single plank in the middle of the room? What was the name of the product / company?
Wow that is a great product.
Brilliant idea...about time.
Oh come on, Matt. Everyone else comes up with viable concerns about price, long-term use, company business plans, and the one guy who has a 4 word praise comment gets a Matty-Heart?
Wow this is expensive! $15\ sq ft average. Great idea, but way out of the price range for most homeowners.
Thanks for posting, I didn't feel like looking for a quote. Hmm....150 sqft room about $2250 in just material.....pass.
👁👄👁
Don’t feel like paying an average of $15 per square foot.
Imagine doing one whole level of your house? Or two levels?
That’s enough for money for like... 5 decent north west prostitutes and a McDonalds happy meal 😂 lol just kidding. Probably only 3 of em and a meal at PF Chang’s 🤣
Gotta pay for that extra material, tbh it looks meh!, but hey, the 1% always need new things too buy right? Lol
One 12 sq ft cost $800 ship from PA to MI !!!
I love that safe idea Clayton had!
I was blown by this innovation of woof
I don't think I'd describe having your flooring sent out for refinishing as "wild" lol
This a really nice concept. But only a nice concept. I've been in hardwood flooring for twenty years and with every new idea or product there seems to be long term concerns. Prefinished hardwood is a great example. Yes it's down and done but the problem I have seen many times over is the the short edges have ups and downs especially on longer lengths. Another concern I have is that I did not see relief cuts on the underside. That will cause problems for wider boards in humid climates. And can the floor be sanded in place?
As a flooring professional I have a few ideas for the product creater.
1. Use an engineered three ply construction for better stability in all climates.
2. Use a four sided micro bevel to ease any overwood.
3. Take the product to the national wood flooring association and have them critique the design.
All in all I see this as a great product but it has to be excepted by the pros to make it.
Stop giving them your ideas dummy they will profit and not give you any credit not a bad idea your ideas that is .
I"m going to their site now!
That is so wild, it is become wild. Wild as wild it can get. Willlllllllllllld
Interesting product. Am I missing something or do the ends of the boards just butt up to each other without clicking together? It looked ok in that small sample but what would happen in a big floor where there's multiple boards in the same row? I'm sure they'd start pulling away from each other at the end to end joints
agreed, should have all sides click
If you notice, one of his boards separated when he was snapping it together. If this had been an honest review they would have discussed the problem.
Yeah but it wasn't a review, it was a booth overview (with a pathetic click-bait headline and picture).
@@markdoldon8852 If you noticed that was for demonstration purposes. Pay attention idiot
The ability to pull up and remove an isolated piece (board) would permit access to a hidden storage/safe location or compartment, that would escape detection.
Nice
Why a fantastic product!
Awesome product I want it for my clients as an option
Be Steller, Stay Steller and save your money under the kitchen floor!
8:00 he did not wanna say “your money” 😂
"It's a great place to hide ... your ... uh ... wad?"
I'll be back to check on this in a couple of years.
4:06 THE MAGIC happens! great stuff!
How noisy is having the tiles slightly off the subfloor?
Im wondering about the butt joints. Unless it was a TIGHT (wall to wall) fit. Whats to hold those together?
Brad Maggard - if it was tight, then the wood would bent, when the wood expanded. Is seems like the butt joint isn't thought through.
That's Awesome Stuff
Bloody brilliant. I want it.
Great idea when I sell my home I can take my floor with me
lmfao
Yeah. Just show your home with the flooring down, then once it closes, pack up your floor and take it with you. Buyer will wonder what happened but you can just tell them floors weren’t part of the contract. I’m sure they will be really happy.
I would b that guy taking the floor with me onto the next house after the first is sold. Haha
What about end grain connection? What will prevent bowing and cupping of the boards?
If it's fully sealed on all sides then it should remain pretty stable.
It wasn't clear if the end grain is sealed or not. Clayton mentioned it was sealed on all 4 sides, but there are 6 sides. Very cool idea.
You're right! The company should send the coating to seal the end grains that are cut to fit on the ends and the side that is ripped for the wall areas.
Also, what is holding the end grain tight together? What would prevent shrinkage or movement in the end grain direction from creating gaps at these points?
He's probably cutting it to fit the specs given to him... all precut and presealed... just install as is...
What a fantastic and logical idea. We are just about to order our floor so can't wait for this to come out. I wonder though how it works over battens as our wooden floor will be raised over pipes and things. Very nice idea !
Clever! Makes so much sense.
dunno my lvt looks pretty damn good
You're an NPC, nothing looks like anything to you.
You're programming says to say your lvt looks pretty damn good, even though I can't see it from my house.
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So it's a floating wooden floor? Bad news boys, we've had that in Norway for about 30 years.
Yep. Same here in Finland. Probably Sweden as well. Click-install hardwood floors are a norm here.
Yep, same here in Germany.
Well now we got em. But they're AMERICAN MADE BITCHES!!!
It's similar, but the installation is much different. You can't remove a single plank from the middle of a traditional floating floor without taking up the surrounding boards.
@@Tasselhoff88 My first floating floor in the States was about that long ago as well. That's not new anywhere in the West. The attempt here is to add interchangeability, apparently, but for the price I could easily just break out and replace the whole floating assembly repeatedly.
So........................Awesome……. Thank you very much. 🙏🙏 🙏
thanks ! Been doing hardwood over concrete and sure would have been nice to have this. We bought a few thousand square feet of 3/4" oak used and relatively cheap that was torn out of a whole house and still had all the nails in the wood and torn tongues and grooves much of it but managed to pick out enough to just hammer it together and using masking tape to hold it until the 12 X 20 room was done (ran them longways in this case... less ends to measure and cut). We left a 1/4 " margin around the perimeter of the room for expansion and put a thin foam layer under it directly on the concrete. Of course some of the boards were warped so we used those to cut up for the short pieces. With what is left (all the boards with tongues and back side of grooves ruined) we did an upstairs room where we could face nail the whole thing down and that worked fine too. Just used 18 guage pin nails and since the floor was grossly uneven in spots (very old home that had been moved once as well and somehow had a 2 inch deflection in the middle of the floor near the fireplace... probably why it happened as the fireplace or one of the support members near to it was likely supported unevenly somehow in moving) we placed joints where the deflections occurred to keep the floor ends matching (also tongue and groove and just tried to use boards in those areas with t & g intact). The most time consuming part by far fyi, was grinding off all the nails and separating out boards that were not warped and that had ends with t & g intact and just separated to either a L. or a R. end usable stack and of varying lengths in order so when it came time to lay the flooring, it was easy to find the length needed or end piece needed thus minimizing the waste. Something I just thought of now would be to just stick down velcro to the floor and the boards and it would need no special milling at all, though of course the joints would not be as tight... who cares. just buy the boards wholesale, cut them any length or width and all square cuts and your done.