New World Fishing Luck Guide!! FARM MORE OYSTERS!! FARM MORE LEGENDARIES!!
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Hey guys! I have been lately seeing a ton of people discussing fishing luck in chat, and as you would expect there are a ton of gambler fallacies going around, but in a game, especially one like New World that uses dice rolls for almost every action, and loot bucket, there are true real numbers involved, so I made this guide to help explain how to catch targeted fish, like oysters more often. I also wanted people to have the ability to focus gear to catch whatever they are after, and how it works. I hope this help!!!
Hello 5 Head Survival Gaming thank you for making the video. I hope you can help me and my crew out with a question that has been a problem now for a couple of days with New World. The " Vial of Suspended Azoth " it can be used to give Azoth for fast travel and it seems to be glitched out and not working. I was wondering if a hotfix or update patch would be in the works to help out the player base?
Ty man for so many videos about new world i hope u have a Nice day :D
I tested this tonight and if u can get a 3 star hotspot it’s great with lots of oysters. The problem is they are heavily camped and depleted and you too rarely get oysters without the hotspot active even with full luck. 1 & 2 star spots don’t get much. Probably only worth doing on a lower pop server or inactive time period. M10s are best money maker imo. Sell rare gear
What's the optimal territory and water type to fish in ? Like, what out of all the possibilities, should I go for if my sole aim is to make as much money as fast as possible? (Considering I do have all the best fishing gear, just meaning I don't have to use if it not necessary) is it targetting oysters?
Thank you !
You've just provided the first clear exposition of fishing luck (or any luck for that matter) that I've ever seen!
And I'd say you've made a lot of people much happier with the game.
Understanding luck seems to be a dark area altogether, judging from forum posts, other youtubers and websites.
Makes us all wonder how to generalize to other areas, like skinning for example.
Kudos!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video - Thank you so much for all your work!
You make everything so simple to understand in a simple way that for me unfolds the masteries, mysteries and dark arts that surround crafting ……..thank you
simple man living a simple life :P
Man it's so interesting, ty very much!
Great vid man! I always felt this fishing luck threshold on my skin but never figured out what the sweet spot was. Much appreciated!
Glad I could help!
This is a game changer.... I feel like I wish other people didn't know this magic lol. Thank you so much for the peak behind the curtain. After testing, there's no going back. Subbed.
You are so welcome!
Just came from your fish roe farm video. Timing couldnt have been better. I was considering trying a no trophy farm to see if i could catch the lower tier fish but youve got all the math done already. 👍
New to the game! Great explanation on how luck works. Thanks!
Best explanation out there, major like 👍
Hey so it might help some of the other solos out there that only have one house or are currently low on gear but want to farm oysters for gold. Currently 350 a piece on my server. I was able to hit the 22,500 luck threshold with other arrangements. My main one being Aged Wood Pole (no enchants) 7,500 Luck + 1 Major Fishing Trophy 5,000 Luck + Glowworm Bait 8,500 Luck and one piece of Lucky Waters II on a piece of gear. Trophy cost 3,250k (ish) and gear was from the Fishing Quest line. Althought gear was relatively cheap on my server (Isabella) at around 25-50 a piece for Lucky Waters Gear (couldn't find any lvl 1 Lucky Waters for other arrangements). I still pull some greens from 3 ⭐ Spots. But I have gotten 6 Oysters in about 50 pulls. Which is I sold now would net 18-20hundred.
Hard thing to explain, you did a good job of it. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for making this make sense.
Love your videos!
TY! much appreciated
Thanks for the explanation man.. right to the point!
No problem!
Thanks for the video bro
Man i finaly get that shit ! TY and yeah my head hurts from listening to it was hard to expain but you nailed it !
You probably already understand this hence why you've much such amazingly detailed fishing guides but There is so much information lacking online about this kind of thing, Majority of links will send you to a click bait casuals article with little to no substance. Basic advices that everyone already knows, Coming from path of exile this is concerning because we spent thousands of hours grinding and I need to know what is efficient not how to do something at it's most basic level.. So thank you from the bottom of my heart for making such detailed content with actual Information and not just the typical information for casuals.
Also the Wiki seems to know even less. Lacking in drop tables, locations of items, weightings etc.. This game sorely needs a dedicated wiki with actual players who can full it with detailed and precise information. Anyways you're as close as we will get. Thanks man.
No problem, I try to make these guides to cover the information, but it can get overwhelming for a viewer with a short attention span, so I try to comp-act it
this breakdown is so good - I'm using it to prove a point to a few people that used to LoL at me - cuz I really enjoy fishing in NW. Not only that - you can make some decent money with forced dice rolls on 4/5/6 side of the dice! the raw numbers are great at making my point! also - the fishing luck song - is the Fisherman's Lament on the flute?
Thanks!
Welcome! and ty!
Another top of the notch video, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Really good one. Tried your setup (3 major trophies, no fishing gear and aged wood pole) on the 3 star hotspot close to the siren's run TP and on first try got 100% rare: 3 oysters, 3 frogfish, 2 sculpin and 2 chests. Used no bait here.
I'll call it a seeet spot =)
Thx for this one!!!
Good stuff
I did the same thing and got pretty much the same results. I have fished at 7 3star hotspots now and have only pulled the blue rarity fish and treasure chests
This is great and really informative. My only problem now is catching a Tier 3 spot in time! One day ill reach it in time haha
Thank you. ,, great video .
Glad you enjoyed it
I dont trust anyone else's video on New World testing until 5 Head puts his video out :P
ty !
Thank you so much - I was ware of my excessive fishing luck destroying chances at Oysters, but I wasn't aware what the actual numbers were and how to get exactly where I need to be!
Glad I could help!
Awesome video! I have to ask, how did you come up with these fishing luck thresholds? I would also request a similar video for regular loot luck if you have these threshold numbers as well :)
data mining
Amazing work. Now do this for the Canarios music sheet :-)
Dude you are a legend
Awsome info! Thanks 😄
Do you have anything similar with other gathering skills? Or there just more luck is better 😊
I made a very old very crude one early after release explaining gather luck rolls, but I should update it, thanks for the reminder :) But ya generally with gather luck, more is better
i love video like this, and its Awesome! but i have question about the last tips, is it any effect on Line Strength between T1-T5 Rods, cos it will be harder to maintain the fish with low Line Strength...thx
I just ran the math, the ideal and possible setup would be 22500 luck + 3* fishing ground. E.g. by using a T5 pole and 2 major trophies. its an about 11,5% higher chance of rare fish.
Best possible setup would probably be 3 major trophies + a t3 pole without perks. this way you can easily switch to max luck setup for 2* fishing grounds while waiting for respawn of 3*.
With max luck and a 2* ground the odds for rare fish should be 25.47% (-> 8,49% oysters), given that 2* grounds hold more fish this option is decent also.
You’re a legend
Thank You verry much : )
You are welcome!
Insane guide, @5 Head Survival Gaming you can maybe show Luck Values for 2 Star and 1 Star?:)
Awesome video!! One question though where would I farm for the T5 fishing gear?
It is all world drops now, but I have found they drop quite regularly from black alligators in 60 + zones, or the ghosts in ebonscale near ivan
Thanks for the video! Gonna go figure out the best way to farm snails using this info now.
Wondering what is better. 0 fishing luck in a 3 star Hotspot or as much fishing luck as possible in a 2 star Hotspot.
Hi 5 Head, love your vid's ! Really instructive. Can you tell me what is the skin/gear your wearing (fishing gear currently in this video) ? Thanks and keep the good work !
it is the vengeful set, i just dyed it to look a little better
hey :) in general i watch every video of yours, good explains so good even i understand them with my poor english :) but 1 thing i mis in untill all your videos now is the new tier 5 fishing throphy ! is that somthing worth to, get and farm for it ?
yes
great video , can you stack the 22500 luck anyway if i dont have trophies but a Lucky III pole ?
Next rendition, please find the best way to get fish roe. I know sturgeon is great, but what luck if not in a hot spot (if that's even a thing). Fantastic work man, keep it up!
Great suggestion!
Nooooo do not! Let only the OG subers have this info. So we can make alllll the fish sauce.
Fishing used to be so chill after the bots were gone. Now it’s just real players camping all the hotspots on a timer :( kinda wish all resources were on randomized timers or locations
Anyone who cannot afford 3 major trophies. You can use
3 minor trophies
+ Treated Wood Pole
+ Glowworm
Dont use any luck on clothing and it will get you to a range with Oysters. The math is not quite 22,500 but it is close enough to get you to Oysrter catching range.
Curious, how are you finding the roll table values for each item? NWDB used to show it on their database but don't anymore. Wondering if there's another way or how you concluded the luck value "window" for Oysters here.
Friend, would you do it for 1 and 2 stars? or is it enough just to subtract the luck of the spots mentioned in the video?
Do you have a link to the tables mentioned to allow us to set our gear up for other type fish?
I swear I saw your character today fishing in restless shore at the 3 star fishing spot. I'm Starseed
Love your videos. Quick question. So we can use 3 major fishing trophy now. I been using 1 major, 1 basic, and 1 minor is that not a thing anymore?
Yes, those were fixed in the May update. 3 majors stacks.
Hey, great video once again 😊 Tell me what about the new fishing trophy and fishing food from the event. Is it worth replace major trophy by these ones. Food does affects luck for the event hotspot or the other ones also?
Yes, it seems only the fishing rods from the event, the trophy's from the event and the food from the event affect event fishing, the regular fishing stuff seems to not
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming I concur with this statement. I have tried every possible combination in normal fishing gear and poles trying to only catch large Medleyfaire fish and its random. I can say for sure that no bait gets way more Medleyfaire crates. I guess I need to go buy an event fishing pole.
What's the optimal territory and water type to fish in ? Like, what out of all the possibilities, should I go for if my sole aim is to make as much money as fast as possible? (Considering I do have all the best fishing gear, just meaning I don't have to use if it not necessary) is it targetting oysters?
Nice video. I hate this luck system so much. I also don't understand why fishing aptitude crates and treasure chests don't drop pearls.
hello, any idea of wich luck we need to fish in open salt sea in ReekWater for oyster based on your video ?
I crafted me a fishing pole with the durable perk. No more breaks!
Interesting video, although I got a bit lost. Could you tell me what is roll luck in one and two star hotspots? If I understood well, in 3 stars, if I have 2 major trophies, full luck clothes and the wooden pole of 2500, I would have 22500 and this is better for oyster than just 15000 of 3 major trophies, isn’t it? Or it’s much better if I not reach the cap? Thank you!
Friend, how did you arrive at the calculation of the percentages? Could you explain the calculation? I would like to make a spreadsheet in excel to perform some tests.
if u put gear that improve size will that cancle my chance to cach oysters ?
Hey Boss! This video has been invaluable to me! I made a spreadsheet and plug in my values of the items to hit the sweetspot for what I am after. One question though! @4:22 you show the loot table on screen for 3 star hotspots. To calculate the table for a 1 or 2 star hotspot, do we subtract the value of the hotspot itself to maintain consistency or leave it the same? I only ask as I often prefer 1 stars at times due to the hotspot providing more fish before it's fished out. Thanks in advance!
You wanna share it? I dont know what i am doing wrong but I dont understand the roll system^^
@@Asuramo Sure will. What's your e-mail
@@StrutZ007 can you share an view only link? So we can create a copy for ourselves
@@OFadigas Sure thing bud. Let me know if you have any access issues. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e0A97EnaiaBNPeM4rUpYTJgO--oBacwQo9m0gg6BOas/edit?usp=drivesdk
@@StrutZ007 Thx bud! Will be much usefull
Great video, btw. For us that love exact numbers and chances, this video is amazing. One question: how do treasure chests interact with luck? Since the max luck value (296.8k) makes the minimum roll exceed the window for the chest, how does it still drop 65.4% of the time?
there is a hard cap, you cant out luck chests to only legendries unfortunately
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Thank you very mutch... have a nice day.... see you….
How would you overcome the lack of a hotspot when the hotspot is down?
3 Star Hotspots are awesome to fish at but my server is pretty farmed for them. However the 2 star hotspots are always open, Can you catch things like Oysters in 2 star hotspots and do you know what the targetted luck would be to hit them there?
Side note, I think it feels really bad to have obtained a legendary pole and then you can't even use it for the actual rare things in the game. I think Amazon should re-order some of the fish rarities, like legendary oysters since they are the most needed.
Is there any website that tells you what the rolls are when fishing, grinding mobs, like Runescape?
Any chance you have the loot luck tables for 1* and 2* hotspots also? I'm fishing snails and would love to be able to calculate the correct threshold for those as well.
they are all listed in the datamine
i’m just curious, i just started new world and what’s the point in fishing too cook for recipes? or is there a deeper reasoning?
Thanks for sharing a threshold for 3star hotspot (22500) would you m find sharing oyster thresholds for 2star and 1star?
so ho much lck do u need for tier 2 hotpsots to get oysters?
How do the % luck perks interact with this. Just multiply the fishing luck number with it and add it to the final number?
i was expecting somthing diffrent my bad heres like
Hey 5 Head, do you know how much luck you should have when farming aquatic snails?
132841 total is optimal
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming How do you ever get to that exact number of luck?
Apparently there is a new seprate luck for the summer event fish. When I looked at the data-mined files i saw that only the event shop fishing rods and the event bait gives luck. So i was thinking if i only fish on event hotspots then its worth to change out my fishing luck trophys for xp to maximize your efficiency.
ya def
You have a link for that?
Soo, if i have 3 major trophies full set with lucky waters 3 legendary fishing pole and firefly bait. I would get only chests in a 2 star spot?
how about roll ranges for t2 and t1 hots spots? i cant find this info anywhere
please someone share
Hey! Thank you for the video, is it possible that they changed the numbers? I have the 3 major trophies with the age wood pole and im still getting greens in T3 zones.
what level fishing do you have ?
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Ahh im guessing level adds luck? If yes, then that is why because im only around 150 rn, thank you!
does this type of method works with shining, harvesting as well or its completely different?
the luck variables with harvesting are a bit different, you can't get luck high enough to eliminate or guarantee things
At what ranges luck is the oyster on?
Hello ! thanks for taking the time to explain this, I got a bit lost when you did all the math, this is what I HAve atm
Iron wood legendary 12500
Woodlose 7000
Lucky day 5000
Lucky waters III gloves 2000
Lucky Waters III Pants 2000
Lucky Waters III boots 2000
Trophies 7500
38000
I like e to get mats my self, please help me... i Want to catch some snails, Where should I go fishing, thanks
does this video still apply 1 year later ??
is there by chance a calculator that can easily do the numbers for me by putting in my gear?
So just a note here about which trophy to hang. Major fishing trophies give 9k fishing luck each. Basic fishing trophies give 5k each. In the video you say to hang 3x Major fishing trophies for 15k total luck, but w/ the current tooltip amounts in game it would be 3x Basic fishing trophies.
They nerfed the trophies, but didn't update the tooltip
correct major fishing trophy's in fact give 5000 not 9000
@@-Holyyy oh that's good to know, I had no idea. Thanks for the info:)
Do fishing trophies stack now, or do you still need a tier 1, 2, and 3 to get the full bonus
They stack
How much has this changed since this vid? My gear says it has both lucky waters and fishing colossus and the legendary quested pole so Im not sure how much luck I have
edit: I guess I cant have too much luck though because I just caught a hake which is common. Probably should look into fishing trophies.
What’s the optimal luck setup for 2 star or 1 star for oysters?
Working on it, but I can say for one star max it out, because you get a very low luck push from the hotspot
doesnt give the base fishing lvl bonus luck too, that have to be considerd? (like the other gathering professions) Or is it only the casting distance bonus that increase with higher lvl?
you allready answered the question about fishing lvl, sorry. but pvp luck have to be tested i guess
hello, do you have links to the loot tables and luck? I've got to a salt water 3 star hotspot and got my set up to be 22.5k luck exactly as you say. I've fished a few 3 star salt waters already but i can't seem to get oysters. But i am getting 100% blues. So my guess is its working but i'm in the wrong locations? Is there certain location restrictions to oysters?
github.com/new-world-tools/datasheets-json :)
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Awesome! Do you know if there are any location restrictions to Oysters? I've been using 22.5k fishing luck at 3 star saltwater hotspots, no luck on oysters yet (lots of starfish though)
I make so much coin cause of this guy.
lol sorry man :/
Just stumbled across your video. Having 3 major fishing trophies is kinda impossible for normal players lol. Thats like 24k+ just in trophies
Not at all, if you fish with the fishing rewards from the quest chain plus firfly bait, you can easily catch 3 legendary fish from ebonscale reach and reekwater, that's all that's required for these 3 trophies
Can you please show those numbers for just fresh and salt water so we can see how much luck we need for different type of fishes there?
For example if i want to always fish in salt water and i want to maximize my chance of getting only blue fish how much luck i need?
its the same salt or fresh , the fishing loot tables dont change for each, but if your talking open water there is no way to target blue, only works in hotspots in salt water
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming but in complete finishing leveling guide which i just watched u showed open world looting table for blue finsh i need 96900 luck is it both fresh water and salt water? Im confused 😂 i don't want to run around for hotspots just wanna chill by fresh water lake or salt water and fish but like to know if a specific number of luck would work there to get only blue or green or at least maximize my chance of getting those
Huh... i've always used the max setup you showed on the video, used to only get legendary fish + crates. But since the new update, i've tried to fish again with the same setup, and i'm randomly fishing up rare fish? I don't remember a fishing luck nerf in the patchnotes, have you guys noticed it too?
I've checked:
- My house rent is OK, 3 Major Fishing Trophies on;
- Using Vengeful Helm/Gloves/Boots and Fierce Smock/Trousers;
- 2 T5 Fishing Poles one with Lucky Day 3 and the other with Lucky Night 3 - Switching accordingly;
- Using Firefly/Glowworm bait accordingly;
- 5% Luck from Music Buff;
- 3 Star Hotspot.
Am I missing something or did they nerf it?
there is a bug, I was going to make a video on it :P seems opening your chat box or inventory bugs bait, and you stop getting the bonus luck from bait, been testing it for 2 days
So fishing oysters is more profitBle than legendary fish?
im catching blues with full luck (trophies, gear, pole, and bait) but the vid above is still valid to an extent, im also catching greens?(with the current gear set explained in the video)also it isnt a 33% chance to catch an oyster its a smaller % at 14.2% chance if all the fish pools combined is it not? also is it only possible(with full fishing gear) to catch greens and above in tier 2 hotspots? is it viable to only use the basic wooden pole if your target fishing snail slime in fresh waters since the number is exceeding 132,841 at 159,900 luck at just the basic T2 hole. or should i run full gear at 213,400 at the bottom of 265,683 for more blue fish? and also is there a fishing buff from songs?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make an updated video explaining or just reply!
also does having 350 focus compound into any of those stats or does global luck have any effect?
I get where you got the 0-3200 base roll range, as Max Hotspot loot table value (300k) - Max Luck (296800k). Does that mean that if I have a Luck value of say 20k, that my base roll is 0-280K? I've seen base roll referenced as a static 0-34,700, so I'm a bit confused how base roll is calculated or valued..
your total luck is added to the base as well as the ceiling
testing your numbers for about 3 hours now, and I have to say you are dead on. While I got a majority of blue, RNG isn't always as nice and I ended up with a lot of star fish lol. I would add, putting on your full gear and best bait while waiting for the T3 to respawn will also yield a few blues, but mostly green.
man ive been doing it for roughly 40 min and hacent gotten a single one idk if im doing something wrong but im in t3 and 3 trophies
@@Yohnie yea the rng can suck at times
Is this information still current?
Hi, does e.g. day&night time collossus and fresh&salt water perks stack with each other?
They do. If you are aiming for large fish, 90000 is the number you want to hit, and its fairly easy. Day/Night Colossus III gives 25000, Salt/Fresh III Gives 25000, Fishing Colossus III on armor gives 5000 per piece, Meat/Fish bait give 15000, Clam/Snail give 30000, and Oysters/Eel bait gives 50000.
@@RyanAslett Do you know if you can roll a fishing rod with Day/Night Colossus III and Salt/Fresh III?
@@Abahable Yes, its possible, but, odds of getting all four of those on one rod is about 1:200000. better to just get combo rods for size fishing.
Are the loot tables different for tier 2 fishing spots? Because if i understood this video correctly, you arent able to catch Aquatic Snails in tier 3 fishing hotspots. (Is that correct?) Also If this is the case how is the loot table different in tier 2 fishing spots? Thanks for any responses. I need roughly 400 Snail Slime and want to farm it on my own and I would like to maximize my odds if possible. Thanks in advance for any comments.
Did you ever find out what the other loot tables were on the other 2 hot spots?
@@chtracy73 Unfortunately no I didn’t
How would I figure out what the loot table looks like if I wanted to target something like catfish or sturgeon
well the loot table is quite simple, all white rarity fish are the same, green again same and blue etc, so basically you target rarity, then head to the zone its offered in
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming so I'd want to get ATLEAST 132841 luck to rules out the Grey fish tiers, boots etc. If my assume my poor understanding of how this works, if you fish in a 2 star spot you'd have too much luck to catch the uncommon green fish? I guess the better question is how to target the lower rarities lol
so what about being 200 fishing skill? How about Max Cast? They factor in to the luck?
No not for fishing skill level and cast distance do not affect luck, they affect tension strength
im thinking an update to this guide?
since colossus we completely forgotten
does bigger fish give higher change of rare stuff when salvage?
who knows
colossus is not associated with luck, but I did talk about it in my fishing guide
Does PvP affect fishing luck? Is there a sweatspot to catch blue fish in a regular non hotspot water (since they're all camped)?
no
If a hotspot is fished out does it lose its luck bonus?
yes, it becomes just a marker till it respawns