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Blame Logan Paul and Johnny Somali. Japan has been limiting foreigners more harshly lately because of their antics
Actually recently Australian and Chinese foreigners have increased this too cause of harassing Gaesha and other people in their neighborhoods
No pretty sure theyve always been racist af. In ww2 they were trying to conquer the earth under the delusion that japanese people were the most superior on earth and espeically compared to other asians. Not much has changed since as you can see.
Great take. So we shouldn't let any Hispanics come to the US because of El chapo then right? Do you see how ridiculous what your saying sounds now?
tbh, Japan has always been a pretty xenophobic country. if anything, it's been more lax than before
good. They know that the west is cuckish when it comes to foreigners and for them to preserve their culture and way of life they have to start being more aggressive
Speak Japanese Or Go To The Shadow Realm
Lame… 😞
Well technically the Japanese wouldn’t know what the shadow realm is
@@CodyTheDragonSamurai okay "dragon samurai"
Actually the Shadow Realm is an American dub invention, so speak English or go to the shodow realm
It’s one of those comments I instantly find out on top of my head, so I had to bring it up sorry lol. However I still felt bad for that gentleman in this video just putting into context.
Reminder there is no discrimination laws in Japan so they can tell anyone that they arent welcome in the establishment
Good. Freedom of association goes both ways.
Here in America there's no law that says you cant deny service to someone who doesn't speak a certain language. However, the FGC events that are held in Japan have a lot of non-Japanese people attend yet there's no issue.
@adandyguyinspace5783 America is a gray area depends on the state business only if they have the sign that says they have the right to refuse service
japan any establishment can deny you service based on your ethnicity background or religious beliefs
@@adandyguyinspace5783
You clearly aren't familiar with what institutions like the ADL and the SPLC can do to your business if you say something they don't like.
Freedom of association hasn't existed in the United states since atleast the civil rights act.
@@geek593 k. That also means you can reject people based on their skin color or nationality, like with squiddy. Imagine going to a restaurant and them being like, “yeah, sorry, no, you’re Italian. No spics here”.
And that is why it's not as simple as "just move to Japan and play OCG format."
@@JohnnyThe4th As someone that may wish to move to Japan in the distant future, even I know that complete mastery over Japanese language is a mandatory requirement.
@@Signerdragon123 I think mainly tourists are lulled into a false sense of security when they go to a country with English as a second language and think they don't have to learn the nation's primary language if hardly at all to get by.
@@JohnnyThe4thThat's the same shit people say over here in America to others . That's not the right focus. Cause I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't let him play even if he did speak the language
@@JohnnyThe4thI think we are going to have to kick out a ton of French Russian and Spanish speaking people if they aren't welcome in the US. You really should think that through a little
@@JohnnyThe4th exactly, it's why cap's anecdotes are pointless, does he really think just because he didn't see them, there's no locals in US that have kicked out non english speakers from their events. of course it's happened its bloody americans, its just whoever got kicked, won't be making a twitter rant about it for traction, so i really don't buy the "woe is us we'd accomodate you if you were in the us". They're well within their rights to not have rude foreigners involved in their events, especially given the decades long disgusting behavior american have towards Japanese culture
Yugioh community when racism and xenophobia: 😰😱😡😡😠😠
Yugioh community when racism and xenophobia in Japan: 😄😃🤔😇☝️🤓🤐
Goes to show how many hypocrites we have these days. No true principles...
Yea Virtue signaling grifters do this all the time, all against "Muh Racismus" but then turn around and say "You can't be racist against white ppl lol".
Only true principle is DGIF about it.
And Before you answer, remember that Logan Paul, Johnny Somali and an assortment of other Foreigners have gone over there to start trouble and even be openly Racist to the Japanese in their own land, this is a very logical outcome.
was thinking of going to japan as a vacation, but not anymore, I've heard way too many racist things about them.
@@YGOHermit If you decide to go you'll be fine. Living there is a different story.
THE GLORIOUS NIPPON
Times have definitely changed, going to Japan in 2020 (January) to see worlds for vanguard plenty of stores were chill and let players join and interact for both vanguard and ygo related things. Tourists have probaably destroyed everything
They definitely have changed and it's sad. I went to Japan in 2015 with friends and it was amazing, everyone was friendly, chill and accommodating.
Something's changed and it wouldn't surprise me if it was related to too many crappy tourists. Majority of those types of tourists are also despised in their own countries too for being the jerks they are.
As they always do.
american tourists
@@kavinh10 Chinese, Australian, Apparently German and quite a few others starting crap over there, but mostly Hyper Nationalistic Chinese yes.
Paul was a while ago and Johnni somali is just one guy.
I've lived off and on in Japan for years, going all the way back to 2008. The Japanese have always been a bit racist and xenophobic but it used to be that if they saw you making honest attempts to understand their culture and follow its rules, you were generally accepted. They'd deal with the language barrier, or a brief bit of awkwardness, because they could see you were trying to be respectful.
In the last few years though, especially post pandemic, all that has gone out the window. If you don't speak the language reasonably well they won't bother, and at best, you'll get pointed to a more touristy place where they've likely hired English speakers and have been trained to deal with "unruly situations".
I was there last year for a couple of months and I constantly had to prove I was fluent and knowledgeable enough to even do things as simple as grab some lunch or do laundry.
That’s why you learn Japanese. Should be a given when you live in a country several years. I cannot believe people like you who go to countries for extended periods of time not learning the language and expect to be treated the same. learn the language.
@@theinternationallanguagees9213 Except... I do know the language. I learned it, my writing isn't great but I can speak it well enough to where fluent people are surprised.
All I'm saying is that even 5 years ago or so, the Japanese people were far more understanding and forgiving if you showed them you were at least trying to be respectful.
Today, if you even look like you aren't native, a lot of them won't give foreigners the time of day unless they're paid to do so or you can prove you speak the language and understand their customs.
There’s been an uptick in foreign visitors basically being nuisances in the country for the past year.
Among other cases, this includes Johnny Somali, desecrations of religious sites by two different foreign nationals, numerous instances of unwanted physical contact in Kyoto prompting a ban on tourists in the Geisha district, a Lawsons in the Tokyo area deliberately obscuring a skyline because of tourists jaywalking to get photos of Mount Fuji…
The issue isn’t that Japan is being racist; it’s foreign visitors forgetting they’re in a different country, and the locals are simply not going to bother with nuance anymore.
They forget that they can't act how they do in america and expect to get away with it
@@SliferStreaming I'm also sure that Even europe and america are getting sick of those visitors. You know the saying, My house My rules.
It’s both. Yes there are bad actors but to discriminate against an entire nation is extremely wrong.
I'm going to disagree here. Sure, foreigners can and do cause trouble, but Japan is very closed off as a country. They often discriminate against people who aren't Japanese. Even if you speak perfect Japanese and are nothing but polite, you will still be barred from entering certain businesses and participating in various events.
I understand that some people will act like idiots when visiting Japan but that just doesn't mean they should all be phobias to ALL foreigners. The Japanese folks should be more curious than closed-minded.
I went to Japan in January. I didn't play in the tournament but I did just free play with some people. I'm half Japanese so I saw it as an opportunity to practice my language skills. I surprisingly had a positive experience even though I'm not 100% fluent.
How is this even similar if your half Japanese?
@@hungerxhunger2548because Halfs had a lasting dislike upon them.
Well you speak Japanese. That's the difference. I'm black and speak Japanese and I've never been told that I can't do something or go somewhere because I'm a foreigner. I even went to a bar that had a no foreigner sign in front once. The bartender stopped and stared at me then as soon as he heard me talk he smiled and offered me a seat. For some reason people really struggle with understanding that people don't want to deal with people they can't communicate with especially when they're from a different culture and you don't know how they gonna behave.
for what it is worth, it really is about the language to them and not the country or race. I lived there for years and never once got turned away from playing in local tournaments as a white american. But I spoke and read the language at a pretty advanced level.
Head in the Philippines, every single playee here could speak english
This guy out here litteraly promoting his 3rd world country lmao. Philippines doesn't even have any YGO events, why would he come the that shithole of a place?
Same SEA blocks here and i agree, OCG community is a different kind of beast.
@@rickwinters1673 sea are known for stun and floodgates enthusiast
I think that the first game store wasn't being genuinely racist or xenophobic. I have a feeling that they just didn't want to go through the hassle of accommodating a foreigner, whereas a European game store would probably be more than happy to.
To my understanding, they are within their legal right to deny service, even on the basis of nationality. In my opinion, while this type of discrimination is still wrong, this is the way it should be. Forcing people to do business with someone that they don't want to do business with never goes well. It's sort of the same reason why I don't like top-down forced diversity in any space.
Like, if the US government forced a city full of white racists to accept foreign refugees, that entire thing would be a disaster. Why would the racists want to deal with non-white people, and why would the non-white people want to deal with racists? You can't force someone to tolerate another person. It's just not possible.
As someone who participated in a lot of events, you barely need to speak at all. Ordering food was more difficult. Definitely not a language thing
Some western companies make it difficult to simply pay a bill so they can get away with charging you late fees and interest even when you were ready and willing to pay. I can't imagine how this must go in Japan lol
It is though. Japan has many places where foreigners aren't allowed unless they speak fluent Japanese just because they don't want to have to deal with a language barrier. Dealing with someone who you can't communicate with can be very stressful if you're from a country that's not as diverse as the US.
It’s crazy the amount of people that don’t know how racist Japan is. Same thing with China and South Korea. Please be informed if you decide to travel to other countries.
Yep! Fun places to visit, but it is how it is. I know and follow quit a few black people who live in Japan and they will tell you the same. You have to take the good with the bad. People saying "DONT GO IF YOU CANT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE" are only spreading more xenophobia
Not sure about China, and SK is certainly racist af, but places in SK don't just kick you out cuz you can't speak Korean.
If Japan is racist, what more is the US? There will be racist people everywhere but to call an entire country racist is 😅
@@Kaos9696 nobody got kicked out, he just couln't play in the tournament because he broke the rules
stay in america then, they're rightfully xenophobic because most countries outside of american bloody hate american tourists and rightfully so they're rude and behave like babies.
imagine if this was in the america
would be a dream come true
thats what it should had been all along
Na the racism in japan sometimes go abit to far but I see what happen in the world with imagrtion so maybe japanese learning from the wast what not to do
ThAT RAcisT
This is a nothing burger. We dont have context of how busy the shop is or how able theyre to handle non japanese speakers.
Despite the meme this game is not a childrens card game. Judge could have forseen a lot of potential judge calls on rulings and decided it wasnt fair to squidee or the other players to slow down games if players cant effectively communicate with eachother.
People are crying xenophobia but it doesnt seem like they were throwing him out just he couldnt play in an tournament. He still played casual games with players in those stores.
This, not being able to effectively communicate makes it harder for rulings, calls, and time. They clearly don't want to deal with the 50/50 chance of you understanding. I would feel the same way if someone spoken nothing but Spanish but went to an tcg tournament.
But in eu tournaments they accommodate players. This is Japan being xenophobic. There are plenty of translation apps that can at least get the message across. These tournaments just don’t like the possibility of a foreigner winning
@@Ironcorgi2 NOWAY you comparing a multinational event with a LGS in a single fuckin' country. Maybe it is your time to learn foreign language.
Well, their rules say you need to be a japanese resident to participate. Simple rule, but unfortunately yugioh players don't read...
Unfair rule though. In the TCG there are no rules saying you need to speak English or another language. What if we kicked out a Japanese player for not speaking English? We'd be cancelled instantly
@@starjadiancloneinvestigato1772 Firstly, getting cancelled is a western/woke thing, Japan couldn't care less.
Secondly, yes there are such rules in the TCG, many small town locals have the exact same rules. Maybe a bit different, for example my locals only allows native speakers(english would work too, since the cards are also in english) and only english cards(we don't have them in our language). If a german who doesn't speak english with german cards came in, they wouldn't be able to compete.
Its not unfair
To expect you to speak the primarily languate of the country your staying at
Imagine if you went to locals then you couldt talk to anybody as everybody spoke spanish
@@starjadiancloneinvestigato1772 Different culture, different rules. IDK I think trying to enter a local tournament on a weekday with no effort or desire to even try to learn the most basic phrases of another countries language and expecting everyone to accommodate while being surprised that they just kick you is clown behavior. Having said that, I am really happy that he did some casual play with other natives and I am all for that. But crying when you shove a phone in someone's face and they tell you to piss off is stupid af.
@timihari. Nooooo...... this is soooo... INTRIGUINg if fair enough and it keeps up :((((
It’s likely due to to the rampant bad behavior from foreign tourists.
It’s gotten so bad over there, Japanese people have gone out of their way to block off areas of Japan so people couldn’t visit there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this caused others to be cautious of foreigners as well outside of tourist areas.
Japan usually has some foreign hating folk, but what country doesn’t? The whole bad tourist thing is likely making it worse and making those haters feel justified.
I wouldn't be surprised
Japan has had issues with foreigner prior to the bad tourist behaviour, it has just exasperated the situation. Prior to the recent uptick in bad tourist there have been many places like restaurants or hotels that would deny foreigners entry. So no it's not that bad tourist have made more Japanese people cautious of foreigners it simply gave them a reason to exhibit more xenophobic actions
Yeah dont get me started with johnny somali
@@mattgibson9337 its not xenophobic if there's a reason, americans are rude and only 2nd to chinese tourists in terms of unreasonableness. if the script was flipped and someone who didn't speak English went to a tcg tournament couldn't interact with the opponent or the judge would you allow them to play?
@@mattgibson9337 Who's to say those establishments denying foreigners haven't experienced harassment past this recent boom of nuisance tourists?
Fun fact
In the policy doc for OCG locals, Konami states that you need a japanese address (basically be a resident) in order to play locals.
Once again another example of Konami japan being so against foreigners.
Ive been living in Japan for the past year on a study abroad program, so ive been playing yugioh ocg here and i speak relatively ok japanese, its not fluent, but it gets the job done. I cant even play competitive OCG because konami bars all non-citizens from playing, and despite being a ressident of the country i cant play in them. So stupid.
Anyway, now im pretty sure that ive been to the same shop that squiddy tried first (i think its the satellite shop in akiba), ive played yugioh there, they almost immediately turned me away as i aproached the counter but they suddnly got friendly when i spoke a bit of japanese. And even then they almost didnt let me play until their manager happsned to come over. Theyre afraid of anything thats not the norm and might not 100% be exactly as planned.
Its quite sad honestly how Konami just has this stance of OCG not being welcome to foreigners. Yugioh trancends language.
At least MTG isnt like that here
I can almost bet you they've had an american play ocg there in the past who was a cheating entitled scumbag which led to a a full on ban.
I believe it was said that its because they want their championship representative to actually be japanese
@@SliferStreaming then just simply be better than the foreigners. If they made it residents like everywhere else you still wouldn't have say Jesse kotton coming for a holiday to play in japan nats (you need to qualify via another tourney anyway)
Welcome to gatekeeping.
@@arilenn3293 no they're not allowed to participate in the first place.
I think that's ridiculous. At my locals we have a deaf and mute duelist. Nobody ever has an issue playing with him
From what I understand, if anyone that doesn't speak Japanese tries to go into a restaurant or a nightclub as a tourist you will be turned away not so much because of your inability to speak Japanese it's largely because that establishment's ownership or staff aren't confident in their ability to speak English so, it's easier for them to turn you away and maybe point you to a place that will accept you
That's what translator apps are for. Translate the menu so you know what to order, and then use your phone to translate your order, so the person taking your order can read it. It's not a language barrier issue, because I'm 100% sure if a native Japanese person walked in but couldn't communicate verbally they wouldn't turn them down.
@@Jajuan44what do you do when the client gets drunk or too angry to use the translation app?
@@amuro9624 The same thing you would do if the client was Japanese and is drunk and hostile call the cops.
@@Jajuan44 yeah no one wants to deal with some guy, shoving a phone in their face and yelling at it. I’ve seen it on stream. It’s really cringe bro.
@@Jajuan44 that's the thing though. That's not what Japanese places would do if they were in that kind of situation with a Japanese client. Calling the police would be an extreme case. So you're asking them to be ready to take extra measures to accommodate you because they'd have to call the police if there's trouble instead of just talking.
I'm sure people will jump straight to "Japan is xenophobic" argument, but let's be real here.
You need to be able to communicate to play IRL yugioh. If you don't speak the language, you'll cause trouble for the other player.
Also, this is also just a small store, why would they provide a translator for a small event.
bro you can play the game only looking at the art of the cards XD
@@alexc3231 have you seen how much Americans like to shark/cheat to win? I guarantee you they've had experience with that and just decided to ban all americans
so is everyone not gunna talk about the elephant in the room
that cards shop was small
worlds, nats and ycs's are huge events
ive seen no one mentioning that only
"but ycs's but euros"
japan is japan but lets not ignore it was a smaller store that cant make the necessary set up. not to mention he walked up on the day of the event like come on .
If it did have translators that be way more insane. That be above and beyond expected hospitality.
its not the store, that's just japan, there are multiple stories of people being polite to people but not actually being welcoming to forgieners
just tell them you aren't americans and they'll immediately treat you better. Americans are distained worldwide rightfully so.
Hopin Japan ( konami ) can limit some rogue cards
Imagine if this happened in NA or Europe all the weebs would be pissed, but because it’s in Japan, the weebs say, “how dare you say the Japanese are racist” 😂
its happened in NA you're just naive and believe it hasn't americans are the biggest cheaters and gatekeepers, "english supremacist Americans accomodating foreigners" lmao what's a bloody farce.
It does happen in Europe in small locals, if they can't provide a translator they have rules that say native speakers only. It's the same with Japan, and in this case.
It should be enforced in america too
If you dont speak english at our english tournament then you shouldt come
Its not fair everybody should pander to one dude cause he cant speak the primary language.
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse nah absolutely not. I could play Yugioh against an Asian person that doesn’t know English and be fine and if you’re playing at a competitive level you have a clear understanding of what most decks do besides something like Dustons. Plus the US doesn’t have an official language either
@@NewtBannner they do, it's English.
If your Constitution, laws, daily conversations etc. Are all in english, English is the national language. Regardless if politics hasn't formalized it by law yet.
Also, you are wrong about the language barrier.
this is kinda weird, someone I know (we are competitive OCG) went to jp cuz of family matters(this was during the arc-v era), even though he wasn't able to speak jp, he was still able to play in pods there and even told us his exp dueling there.
I'm guessing streamers might got a hand on this one cuz a lot of them are doing stupid things there lately
Local ocg the same. None kicked back then. like over 100 time during before covid some joining tournament in japan. Or play locally. This is my first time i heard about they really kicking someone out.
May this hopefully be a one off incident. Justice for my boy.
I cannot speak for the current era, but in 2017-2019 Americans could play in their local tournaments. They even let me use English cards. I do not know what happened since then, but that is not the japan I remember
Didn't Konami already announced that no foreigners for locals and their ocg tournaments? No surprise he got kicked out
I didn't attempt to enter any events during my recent visit (knowing limited Japanese to basic greetings, numbers and OCG gameplay as a few examples would probably land myself in trouble), but I did have a good experience at the card shops I did end up visiting on the singles front and was allowed a few casual practice games in store.
Bro was invited to Duel, then prohibited
No. They never said this at all
@@ShayneRawls Actually they did (assuming you're referring to Lowell's comment). I do recall seeing some announcements for that a month or so before my trip to Japan.
If this happened to a Japanese player in the US people on Twitter would be having a meltdown, and it would also be very illegal. But because it happened to an American in Japan ppl are saying that it's just the way it is over there and we should respect their rules and culture. smh.
People on Twitter, but only western people. Not the Japanese player, they'd just accept it and move on becasue that's how it works over there. Besides, can't expect to be able to play in an official tournament without speaking the language.
you really believe it doesn't happen? are you that naive? americans have literally gunned people down for not speaking their language you expect me to believe local game stores dont kick people out for not speaking english? Especially since unlike americans people don't tend to complain about it on twitter
@@timihari Yeah you see those YCS done in Mexico and Brazil? Obviously only player from those respective countries that speak their language can participate.
Western discrimination = 😴
Discrimination but japan =🥰🥰🥰
@@TheGigachad0 Why the sarcasm? Anyone can participate in the YCS in Japan too. Those have translators and such. This was a small locals with probably nobody speaking english. Also, official locals rules say you can only participate if you live in Japan, so he wasn't eligible in the first place. He was able to play casual games there, just not locals. And this isn't just in Japan, A LOT of countries have locals for native speakers only.
I mean japan is known for being xenophobic so.... yeah
Good. More countries need to learn to do that.
In my trip to Tokyo (I can't speak to the rest of the country), I didn't have any negative experience for not speaking Japanese, but I also didn't try to play the game there. But I know that there are some spots that are closed to tourists or non-Japanese, for various reasons.
It might be just because you're viewed as a foreigner. Japan has started cracking down on foreigners due to tourists coming and causing trouble, like messing up historical buildings/landmarks. Streamers have also been showing up and becoming nuisances.
That’s the problem with the fetishizing of Japan and its culture. They’re a SUPER traditional culture. This is nothing new and if you don’t do your proper research and learn this ahead of time; well then you’re a bozo.
From my experience they either refuse to serve me at stores even when google translate is around or they give lower quality/portions to me compared to other japanese people in restaurants. I wasn't rude or loud at all at those places
Or you didn't know that you were being rude. Japan has the weirdest social norms, even sitting in certain ways or looking at someone in the wrong way can be seen as disrespectful and shameful. Every smallest detail matters to them. Pretty sure using a translator is also seen as disrespectful to some, especially since google translate is terrible when it comes to japanese... if anyone reads this and wants to visit japan, I suggest a better translator. Like any that are specifically for japanese, even if you have to pay a few bucks. It really can make a difference.
@@timihari I guess sitting down looking down at the table or looking at my phone is rude? Unless you describe specifics I would have no idea.
Edit: I feel like you're just making things up with the translator thing
@@timihari so someone being disrespectful without intent justifies xenophobic treatment?
@@erickkisreal9398 I'm mostly saying it's about google translator being bad at translating to japanese so you might have disrespected them somehow. As for the other things, I don't know specifics... but I've heard/read from a lot of people that there are thousands of little things that are seen as direspectful to them.
And yes, intent isn't a big factor in Japan. Everyone is expected to know what to do or not to do. In most countries you can just say that you're sorry and you didn't know, but in Japan not knowing something is also seen as disrespectful, as meaning that you didn't take time to learn their culture because you don't feel it's worth it.
Their culture is completely different to any other, as they have been isolated for hundreds of years so thing work different... what is polite in the rest of the worlds might not be polite there and vice-versa.
@@timihari I didn't even get to use google translate. I just showed them my phone and they did crossed arms thing and refused. I wasn't even given a chance to offend them. You still aren't being specific or giving me examples either and you're avoiding the question:
So you still think their xenophobic treatment was justified?
It just kinda feels like you're one of those japan worshipper/apologists even though you don't actually know anything concrete.
edit: like your focus is more on me being at fault even though I practically acted like a normal quiet human being, rather than how I was mistreated. And yes I know certain etiquette too. Like not putting your foot on the seats and not eating while walking.
In the EU we will mostly speak English when we are from different countries.
Except the French.. they love speaking French and live in an illusion where French is a language of importance.
The truth is that east asian countries are known by being really xenophobic that's not only for yuguioh events is a thing in their culture
We not going to acknowledge that certain pests only just seem to validate these beliefs?
Not supporting these actions in any way. But there are some clout chasers who have made national headlines, believing being a tourist means you are exempt from consequences..
@@ProtossTempest
Bad actors acting like asshole is no excuse for treating people who AREN'T acting the same poorly. At that point YOU'RE being the asshole.
@@ProtossTempestno because in civilized countries like America we have the same problem and we didnt solve it by banning japs and non English speakers. In fact i think most states have laws against exactly such things.
Imagine a japanese tourist in disneyland being told to go home because disneyland is only for americans and enlish speakers.
I bet itd make the news. Japan is just racist. Blatantly and openly.
But for EVO Japan and Capcom Pro Tour its not an issue. There's a lot of non-Japanese people that go to these Japanese events.
@@adandyguyinspace5783 you can't shark people in a competitive fighting game, Americans are known for rudeness and cheating it's why one of the few american character in the original yugioh is literally named bandit and is a massive cheater. It's a reputation that american have rightfully earned
What William has said is true. Logan Paul and Johnny Somali are 2 very big reasons why Japan are like this. They truly will only accept those who respect thier culture and speak japanese at this point.
Most Americans/ people from the western countries don’t realize that a lot of other countries discriminate, been to many other countries and seen a lot of stores/ restaurants that didn’t allow foreigners in.
So many people are spoiled in the USA, where it's commonplace to have tons of people who refuse to learn the national language. While it can be rude to a degree, it's unfair to expect everyone to cater to you or expect your opponents to be fine with google-translating everything you're doing in a game.
If u show up in any Chinese or Southeast Asian local u wont be treated like this, they are more than happy to let you play in their local. Japan is known for being xenophobic, its part of their culture now.
That's why I don't travel, this bullshit.
As I understand it....Racial Discrimination is legal in Japan.
is this the same squddy that appeared in Xtevens' duel network video???
Then one and only lmao
MegaCapitalG, amazing content dude
I use to work as a waiter in a suburban area in Korea when I was new here, one day I had a customer tell me that I should LEARN to speak KOREAN since I'm in KOREA.
at that time I was really mad since I had to learn English myself to be able to communicate internationally BUT you guys have to understand that its a PRIVILAGE if they communicate with you in English in their home country and not a NECESSITY. She was right I did have to learn Korean, IM IN KOREA after all. I should adjust to the locals and not the other way around.
its kind of audacious to say it's "XENOPHOBIA" that they didn't adjust to his circumstance BUT REALLY!!! THEY DONT HAVE TOO. Think about it long and hard.
"HOW DARE THE JAPANESE PEOPLE DONT LET ME PLAY IN ENGLISH WHILE IN JAPAN".
that sounds more and more like a Karen the more I read it.
'When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do'.
if they let you play despite not knowing the language that's a privilege and you should take advantage but if they don't, don't make a big deal out of it.
Nah, some ppl here are just defending blatant xenophobia cuz Japan lol. I play in Philippines on OCG Format where 99% of players cant even READ the Japanese cards and we still have to check the YGO wiki constantly even on tourny levels. You can easily communicate with thumbs up or show a handtrap in response its not that difficult provided no one is playing a wack deck that no one knows the effects of.
Isnt it Konami policy that foreigners cannot purchase entry to large ocg events?
Between the long history of serious issues with army bases, people who move there and refuse to adapt, the IRL streamers going there to start shit, and just plain ignorant tourists, it should be expected that the locals don't want English speakers near them.
That's completely not true. I know and have seen dozens of people who do adapt. Japan is xenophobic. That's it. They do this alot in none yugioh related things
That's not true. I know and have seen dozens of people who move there and adapt. Japan is xenophobic. It's okay yo admit that
That's odd it's like the US gets critized when they unfairly judge foreigns based off solely the place of their birth. Do you not see how racist that is?
Asians are racist.
His is just wrong tho. Firstly, it’s not even majority army bases in Japan. If you don’t know, don’t say it. Secondly, as someone who lived their for 4 years as military, the majority of US military members who get stationed in Japan absolutely love the life style and do everything possible to assimilate to Japanese and leave Americanisms behind.
This was crazy to hear happen and honestly I think it's more bad on Japan than on the dude. Hope things like this don't happen that often in the future cuz man this was unheard of to me before this.
"how can you play without communicating?" literally all you need to communicate in a duel is "this card, activate", "this card, attack"
Not everyone who walks into a locals is a champion level or even tournament level player, so the argument of "you probably already know the card" does not work. Thats not even taking into account the level of experience your opponent has.
Got weird looks and heard someone say “scary” because I’m tall and dark skinned 😂 Japan has BEEN racist and xenophobic it’s not a surprise to me that he got kicked from stores.
I spend two months there as a tourist and had no issue and I'm not Japanese or can speak it. I was able to john a few MTG tournaments and played just fine. I visited a ton of Yugioh shops and bought stuff with no issue. I didn't play any yugioh namely cuz I don't own an ocg deck. I would have like to visit the YCS tournament that was going on but you need a lottery ticket to enter and register.
Pegasus didn't seem to have a problem with bandit Keith competing in duelist kingdom
Bandit keith spoke japanese
Squiddy didt
Also pegasus is american himself
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse Oh was he? I guess I forgot it's been a while since I've seen the original series. Initially I assumed the language barrier would be a huge problem(especially when it comes to stuff like ruleings)but apparently not. Another comment was also saying you need a Japanese address to play in some events there.
And all kieth did is start shit and make problems, So no wonder they're cracking down.
Pegasus is American, it was yugi who was entering into a foreign tournament
And Keith cheated and brought a gun to kill pegasus.
Also Keith spoke Japanese.
Japans history has shown heavy isolation for thousands of years now. I do not find this surprising. I find it surprising that people wonder why their brith rate is not sustains population growth and they have the highest rate of loneliness and other sad things. It’s not utopia like people think.
I feel like it’s another case of some people idolizing another culture.
The argument "Well, Worlds and Europe do fine with multiple languages" is a really bad argument. Tournaments in multi-language environments are designed to accomodate multiple languages, unlike tournaments in solo-language environments. So when all of a sudden someone in a tournament in a solo-language environment suddenly needs to be accomodated for a different language, that's a huge issue.
I have a room that I don't want my guest to get into in my house.If the guest wants,he need my permission.
Insane, meanwhile we got folks from Asia who have come to the UK for education and don't speak English too well yet we still allow them to join us in locals.
Heck we've even had one guy playing against us with his full OCG deck.
not for a tournament that leads up to ycs though just a casual affair
If you turned them away, your locals would have been flamed too. Japan gets away with this kind of stuff all the time just for being ✨ Japan ✨
There is so much wrong in your "logic", I don't even know where to start.
From you comparing "not speaking Japanese" with "don't speak english to well".
Or you comparing "a major tournament qualifier" with "your locals".
Or that you can have foreign cards according to the rules, if you have a translated copy.
Or how OCG and TCG have different rules.
@@ma.2099defend weeabooland
Japan has a long history of xenophobic policies. It is not a perfect place. Do not let a love of anime or pop culture blind you to its flaws.
Nah this would have been more trouble than it was worth for the stores. I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Never thought I'd see someone experience the terror that is weebs in real life...
I've actually seen a Japanese alphabet before and now I'm learning it.
just my experience as an exchange student fluent in Japanese that went to that same store and many others: I for sure have found some opponents that seemed to be a bit concerned about having to speak English/being unsure whether I could understand Japanese enough to play properly but never was I rejected from the staff, I always felt welcome and a lot of them were also curious about the tcg, our exclusives, our banlists etc and had a lot of talks. I'm confident to say that it wasn't a case of racism, rather they were concerned about the matches not being able to be conducted in a decent way.
Also there's a lot of stores that have a duel space but don't host tourneys
It's fine in my book. It's not like Europe asked to be flooded, let them have an actual choice.
I dont think its because of yugioh and the language barrier,he told that even a sushi place kicked him out.I think its because of the Jonny Gay Somali story and the youtube vlogger disaster that happend that ppl there hate tourists right now.
Squiddy was a legend on DN
I cant speak on the shops themselves, but the people saying squiddys clearly in the wrong is mind boggling. You're not bad for trying to play with other players who speak a different language, and you are wild if you think that makes him "insensitive" or a "bigot". Leaving politics aside... I dont get this whole "you gotta know language to be able to play" argument. Yea yugioh is a hard game, but game mechanics are universal unlike an entire language. People who get payed to play games (esport games like LoL or CS) competetivley arent stopped by "language barrier". They want to play with/against the best players they can find. Maybe yugioh is just different and im comparing apples and oranges, but I feel you shouldnt need to know the persons entire language to be able to play a game with them if you both understand the mechanics.
If the shops dont wanna deal with it or its an nats qualification thing then thats fine. I get hung up on this language barrier argument though. Is it really that undoable?
Good. Foreign language cards also shouldn't be allowed at English-speaking locals. How are you supposed to play this game if you can't communicate with your opponent? Especially when this game has time limits? Communication should be established before the game should be allowed to start.
First, he did built a deck with only OCG cards to play in the tournament. Second, its not about the language barrier, you can be a foreigner who doesn't speak any Southeast asain languages or Chinese but still participates in their respective locals without any problem. its just Japan has a strong xenophobic thing in their culture.
It is allowed in the TCG, if you have a translated copy to english. For obvious reasons.
@@saikuron772
1. Yes it is a language barrier thing.
2. No, south east asian countries like SK or China, also do this. It just really depends if the store can accommodate the language barrier, the preparations of the foreigner and the factor of the judges independent rulings which aren't the same. Stop using that fallacy of generalization and removing context.
3. Yes, Japan is Xenophobic in some cases. Nothing wrong with that. It's not based on things like the belief of racial superiority, but for very sane reasons.
@@BrotherHood-xh9sg 1, no it is not. 2, they dont, i am chinese myself and i have been to vietnam and malaysia locals without understanding any vietnamese and malay, on top of that most players in southeast asia and china play cards written in japanese, a language most of their players dont understand
@@BrotherHood-xh9sg also china and sk are considered eastern asia, southeast asian countries are refer to the countries on the indochinese peninsula
Well... yeah? If you don't speak the language that everyone else in the tournament is speaking, then why be there?
Some people take speaking english for granted. Not everyone knows how to speak english, and if you can't communicate, how would you be able to play together?
If ur jn an English speaking country you need to know English m. If ur in a japanese speaking country you need to know japanese. Pretty simple. How do you perform any daily task without knowing how to communicate l.
Yu-Gi-Oh isn't even a thing that do actually need a verbal communication tbh as long as you both know how to operate cards and give signal in response when you or opp want to respond
@@jofx4051 you just labeled one thing that requires a verbal response....
@@autigaming1376 The only thing you and anyone may need verbal is declaring phase and want to end a phase which you can just write it on paper
You can just non verbal with wait-maybe a response, think and surrender
But when WE do it…it’s a problem
People who say the la gauge barrier is an issue are just d riding Japan, in the TCG we have continentals and worlds with players who speak a myriad of languages, translations are available for all cards and if the player already knows what the card does it should be fine, it makes it harder ofc but it’s no reason to straight up deny service. If it happened in the UK or US people would be up in arms! Don’t stand for xenophobia
Thank you
Worlds has an expectation of there being a language barrier. Locals does not.
@IceyBreeze so we just gonna ignore the EU and how they were able to play with many different languages no problem?!?
@@damon3095The EU is not one country, its multiple. Of course they have to be able to accomodate different languages. Meanwhile, Japan mostly speaks Japanese so forcing them to learn new languages to accomodate 1-2 western foreigners that might show up is quite entitled.
Language is irrelevant in yugioh, I’ve played against people who didn’t speak a lick of English, if both players are competent all that is required is that both players recognise the cards being played which is likely if you’re accustomed to the meta
Its mind boggling that ppl are defending japan like this, ignoring the fact that this is super xenophobic and they have been like that since forever. I have been to vietnam and malaysia I speak 0 vietnamese and Malay but they are happy to let me participate in their local. while we were both playing with japanese ocg cards(cards in a language both me and all the local ppl don't speak)with 0 problems. The same thing goes back in my hometown, we have foreigners joining our locals(not often) who don't speak our language but we can play just fine.
This was so goofy , i saw the post on Twitter and it made me almost want to quit and go play lorcana or something. Ive been playing this game sense i was 12 and i never thought us non OCG players would get treated so poorly over the years. I really hope national and ycs turn outs start to tank so komoney can be humbled and start treating us better.
I blame pricks like Johnny Somali, who actively harassed the Japanese and made Japan against foreigners more than before.
@@ProtossTempest I didn't know who Jonny Somali was until recently and yea that guy needs his a$$ kicked. I just hate the fact that I want to eventually take my son to Japan one day and vlog my experience playing ygo amongst other things now when we do go I gotta be extra careful not to trigger anyone. I just want my son to have a positive experience because he's heavily into anime and can't wait to visit Japan one day
@@RogueHeroyou want to take your kid to a foreign nation, a nation where English isn't well spoken or they have confidence issues with, with different laws and cultural norms (like about vlogging in public & private places), and you want to force their entire nation and culture to change so they align with your beliefs and speak the language you can speak?
I feel bad for your kid and hope he can learn common sense from someone else in his life.
Maybe don't go, we already have too many bad representatives. Also, nothing stops you from joining locals in the cardshop for duels or locals. Just learn some common phrases. Seriously, that is pretty much always fine. This yugituber is just spoiled because he doesn't speak a word of Japanese and expected to be treated like a royal and pampered to by a Japanese store, in a Japanese tournament qualifier. Completely different situation.
@@BrotherHood-xh9sg Wow this was a very ignorant response, you do know tour guides exist for a reason right? Also you there's tons of vloggers that already live in Japan so filming something isn't taboo.
@@RogueHero Yeah, you did make a very ignorant response. Good that you finally saw that fact. Maybe that is the reason why you editted your comment?
So the previous points still stand.
Also, you should probably join your kid at school for reading comprehension lessons. Refering to "Also you there's tons of vloggers that already live in Japan so filming something isn't taboo.". As I said "different laws and cultural norms (like about vlogging in public & private places)," --> something which has a completely different meaning then what you try to claim I said.
Friends: why don't you wanna go to Japan?
Me after also explaining my social anxiety:
I understand why the OCG requires you to speak Japanese and why the TCG doesn't require you to speak a certain language. It's because the OCG is two languages, Japanese and Korean, and only one of those languages is spoken in Japan. The TCG has many languages and people in countries where they play the TCG typically speak multiple languages. Europe, Canada, the US, and even some countries in Asia all speak multiple languages. So, having language requirements wouldn't make much sense.
I side with the shop owners here
I've been living here for 5 years, and I go quite often to that store (Akihabara Card Lab, Satellite store) and I've never been told that only japanese are allowed, though it is true that if you don't speak Japanese you may be asked to refrain from playing, since japanese don't speak English at all. Even though I think that message was quite racist 😂
Sooo, can we alienate them from ever coming over here & attempting to shade or do any other weird things to the TCG
You guys already do that along with different countries in general.
This isn't the FGC that actually has a lot more international players who know different languages.
Your average locals isn't knowing multiple different languages for a card game. Even the Europeans who have over 10 different languages commonly spoken. They still need a base language to get across stuff which is English.
Japanese schooling straight up doesn't require that or have a population big enough for English or another language to be good enough reason to learn.
And nevermind they don't have multiple signs in Tokyo alone for Japanese and Foreigner stores.
@@RavenCloak13 Absolutely!!! It's bad enough we shell out thousands of currency to elevate the prestige of a game that can't even be SHARED around the world, as it has almost 30 years!!
Why even is the game here if you're gonna push away the champions who travel the WORLD to compete for a WORLD title? Begins to sound like a turf thing, IMHO
Sleepless nights, family sacrifice, & hell as a whole to be DENIED a chance to show that WHOEVER it is: a EUROPEAN champion, or a U.S. champion; we wouldn't be allowed to take shine from you guys over there??
Share that same sentiment 💯 Do not come over here to dominionize a damn thing. Take your L's like REAL champions!!!
We FOUGHT against ASIAN HATE; we still fight it 🏆 They consistently share projects to produce revenue; (call me modern day KAIBA). Wouldn't having different elements further elevate your game's status?? I think, solely, as any business major would; just to be clear
As far as nuisances & disturbances: instill better rules, values, protocols. Make your competitors BATHE (starts at the top) prior to competing in a WORLD setting. We escape our own worlds using this game; rules against theft are needed. This game is soooo sacred; make it just as secure. Penilize those RESPONSIBLE for missteps & mishaps; the real Duelists wanna compete!!!
Damn, japan really be out here being the america of the east huh? 🤣
People quick to call out prejudice and xenophobic racism until it's coming out of Japan... then it's about defending the glorious anime homeland
Theres a huge difference between translating european languages like spanish, english and french which have similar roots. However Japanese google translate is horrendous. It makes perfect sense. Like you are also comparing regionals and locals which is weird. American sure are weird.
well this is exceedingly racist wow
There is a lot to unpack here.
1. How well planned out was this trip? The two extremes are very to not really. Were details irined out in advance including review of rules and considerations for the trip, like a translator, or did he just go a store hosting a tournament with minimal preparation?
What are the qualification rules for the OCG? What type of tournament was it?
What was the actual responses from the owners, not the Google Translate answer? Google Translate at times can be an absolute idiot.
Was the Guest asking to post what he did in the tournament? That could run into Japan's privacy laws.
I am probably missing factors, but more information is needed to accurately guess why it happened the way it did.
I can only speak on the Google translation. It was accurate.
@@LCDigital92 Thank you for information, that is one factor checked off the list.
Even if your exp tells you the language barrier doesn't matter it doesn't imply that those japanese's employee know that. YGO is a very complicated game and yes communication is important. They don't know you are an expert you might need some explaining and not being able to speak the language then it is a big problem.
Yeah Japan is like that. When I was in Japan I was going to get a drink because I was very thirsty because I was walking all day and they denied me service because I was in Japanese and I said I will be quick I can also take it with me and not be inside and they said no we don't serve foreigners.
It isn't nice but sadly what can you really do 🤷♂️
The video pissed me off! I’m so sick of people claiming that Japan is some paradise that welcomes everybody. This is incorrect. There are multiple places that will not let people in if they don’t speak Japanese. Even more, there are places that won’t let people in if they are not Japanese (even if they speak the language or not).
I believe that guy’s story. CAP, you speak of other countries that have translators but in Japan they are still stuck in the past so to speak.
Good, people are also sick of you.
The yugituber was in the wrong and acted like an entitled westener.
I see people blaming it only on japan, but I would be willing to bet, that if someone who doesn't speak english and only communicated through translator app showed up to an event in US, most stores would deny entry to that player as well.
Lets be real for a second ... if a japanese player came to a local in the US and only knew japanese, the US staff would treat him the same .. their country, their rules, no discussion to be had here
Yep, this is very common in some asian countries, I know by people not only Japan but China and South Korea as well are the worst.
Yeahhhhh...... soo true 😮😭😭
I'm Australian btw
Lived in Costa Rica for a year and yeah they are very friendly here and some people that are bilingual will help me out when I don't understand certain accents in Spanish.
I take it as an Asian culture thing tbh. Asia is very xenophobic which is nothing new.
I feel like this is a very American assumption that anyone will be willing to accommodate for someone who doesn't make the effort of learning the language. To me it makes perfect sense to not allow people who don't speak the language. If something were to happen it would be just too much of a hassle for everyone involved if you cant easily communicate. If people in US tournaments are willing to do extra effort to accommodate those who don't speak English props to them but you can't expect that from everyone. To me this is like going to a restaurant and ask them to make a meal that isnt on the menu. Some might be willing to accommodate but most obviously wont want to deal with that. Why make extra work because one customer is too lazy to learn Japanese?
They already said you need to be a Japanese citizen to play in the ocg because a bunch of foreigners ruined it for everyone by being disrespectful in one of the most welcoming parts in the world. Japan wants to keep their culture and as a native American i can sympathize given most of my culture was taken away and now look at the state of the world. If you go to another country you should at least speak the language its that simple.
Then when we say that shit over here why is it a problem? Because it is. If we can accommodate everyone else Japan should too. But it's a xenophobic place. Plain and simple
That's bs. Japan is Xenophobic. It's been widely known. If EU can do it and NA can so can Japan but they dont
I do not believe that you absolutely must speak the language, but you are correct that when going to another country, you must show respect for their culture and laws.
I just wish Japan would not punish the more normal people, because of the actions of certain idiots who claim to represent America, Britain, etc, while also doing dumb stuff like shouting "Hiroshima" on a train, or purposely harassing passerbys
Americans, British and even French for that matter believe the world revolves around them.
No sympathy once Japan finally bans foreigners
So I guess you have never heard about what happened to the ainu people...
This is less xenophobic as you may think
Not a lot of Japanese do speak english (and are ashamed of it), it's very common to get completely ignored by japanese bystanders when asking for direction/help in the street, they fell ashamed not being able to help you by not speaking one of the most common language of the world.
And it is very common to see small sign on shops storefront saying things like: "NO FOREIGNERS"
That is not racism, but a way for japanese to avoid embarassing and awkward experience
(that said, it's entirely possible that some peoples are just straight xenophobic, but it is a tiny minority, just like everywhere unfortunately)
This is the store trying to avoid awkward and embarrassment for their local community, by saving them having to play with an english speaker they can't communicate with.
Try to play in bigger shops in big city like Osaka or Tokyo, and do not go to remote and smaller town if you really want to play in Japan. (like the guy in his tweet, he said he travelled an hour by train, doubt he went in the center of Tokyo, but I could be wrong)
And send them a message or ask on their socials if non Japanese speakers are welcome to play in, or purchase only.
Definitely not isolated, Japan has become increasingly tourist unfriendly to the point of blocking off scenic spots so tourists won't go there
To solve this problem, all events that are open to both OCG/TCG should be held in Switzerland. Neutrality, right? 🤣 Otherwise, he should probably take this up with corporate Konami. Might be able to get something out of it. As far as OTHER places not serving you because you can't speak Japanese, might I recommend you look up the many, readily accessible guides to Japan for non-Japanese speakers?
While it is likely just an isolated incident one thing I will point out is The West is not the world, and in much of the world they will not make the same effort we do in The West to accommodate things like language barriers, hell in some places they won't even accommodate disabilities. I'm not surprised to see it happen in Japan tbh, and if I was going to visit another country I would do as much as I could to ensure I would be able to communicate with people effectively be that learning their language at a basic level, finding a translator or whatever. Often times simply being able to show you are making an effort on your end will result in people being more willing to work with you.
All the more reason why America is the best place for diversity (or at least, its supposed to be). Duelists of all backgrounds are welcome here!! ✊️🇺🇲
Unless your background is poor then good luck
@thatbloodyspy Budget decks exist too.
I live in China and play at my locals in Wuhan every weekend. Even though i don't speak the language they are completely fine with me playing. I know what most of the cards do but if i dont i just pull out my phone and pit it on the table so they can see im looking up a card. No one ever hss a problem eith that. I just use ygo pro and typ in the card name and read it. Its not so hard so i think its really messed up they didn't let him play in Japan:(
When u visit a different country understand that you're the guest in their house. U don't come in and argue why they gotta let u do whatever u want in their house. Thats basic manners
Learn Japanese, it's not as hard as it looks, it just takes time
This is wild smh it’s unfair and almost racist to other languages there should at least be translators for English and Spanish and German