Orchestral Programming: Day One
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I am 73 years old retired architect, I was trying to get into this kind of composing orchestral music and Sir you have inspired me, thank you.
Well with music always start with your foundations first 👀
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YES Bruv.. Quality pun - I'm not even going to try to build on it.
@@darz_k. you clearly want to cement your opinion, but you don't need to plaster it everywhere
@@zedpenguin Not so much wanting to cement my opinion, as more so wanting to just provide some building blocks.
Wishing you the best, Mr. Karaca, I'm always glad to see musical enthusiasts on the Internet :)
To study music, we must learn the rules.
To create music, we must break them.
- Nadia Boulanger
@Wilson Sc.Jordan Who is we
U right.
"Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist” ~ Pablo Picasso
You must learn the rules first in order to break them consciously.
True. Learn the rules, then you know what to listen to in the mix, to make it work.
Dear everyone who plays brass:
You are the chocolately middle.
Thats cute
Except when they get farty
Sad times hahaha. Not the only place for us though. POWER!
@@jensmartinyorkchr8664 ;*D
This is honestly one of the greatest explanations of how an orchestra moves together. I've learned so much. I'd take an entire masterclass from this guy.
I know right? Absolutely phenomenal explanation from this guy. I have never been able to find someone put it as simple as he did.
Seriously. I have been watching this guys videos non stop the past 5 days lol
@Forrest Vicente stop spaming bro it's not nice and nope, no one cares
@Forrest Vicente Do you understand how seriously foolish your comment on this video's postings looks? I neither care about you, your girlfriend, or Instagram. Go Away!
@@Musicman2012Now it´s a bot, it shows up everywhere with different names...
Yes! As someone who taught conservatory counterpoint, harmony and composition and who studied orchestral performance with Bernstein and Celibidache I thought "what!? How could you claim 'not knowing' is a good thing?" But you know what? So much of what we have been teaching in "music theory" has no value. We're so caught up in learning what the names of things are that we rarely get around to understanding why music works the way does, and more importantly, how to create compelling musical experiences. By ignoring that and focusing on what you hear, what you imagine, and what you want, you get to the heart of the matter.
Now, of course there might be some babies in that bath water we're throwing out! Understanding how harmonic, linear and rhythmic energy works to create musical motion is absolutely crucial to making music that goes beyond merely "sounding like" (orchestral) music. You may get that understanding from playing and singing and listening to music, or you may get it from a more explicit study of some kind. Either way, if you have that understanding, and can combine it with the astoundingly expressive tools and techniques Spitfire and others provide, you absolutely can create musical magic.
It would be great to see you show a bit more how consonance, dissonance, modulation, line, rhythm, meter and orchestration, variation, contrast, are able to build and release musical energy. That's something that is not part of any musical technology (digital or analog), but is essential to all music, regardless of style or genre. So, it makes a huge difference! Thanks so much for taking the time to share you knowledge and experience!
Please do a part 2. Your explanations of how you normally arrange your different parts was so useful!
The value of the theoretical infrastructure you develop as a composer in music school isn't merely in labeling chords or melodic/architectonic construction, it's in developing the intellectual technology to facilitate your ear and creativity to hear and create a wider variety of sounds than you otherwise would. ...Enlarging your canvas, basically. It's easy to get "defaulted" into writing everything in C, E, A, D, and G if you're not facile with the full chromatic palette, and I think one of the best ways to familiarize yourself with that palette is by study and comprehension of what the best artists before you have done. Music theory worked for Mozart, Rahcmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, JW... but it's not good enough for us now?
Paul Smith As a victim of formal musical education, I cannot but agree with both Christian and you.
@@silverXnoise Yeah. I'm a Impressionist composer, who learnt traditional and contemporaneous harmony, along with obviously music theory and learning piano too. The theory doesn't limitate you, it brings to you the way to comprehend how music works, and gives you better elements to work with. The people who say that kind of things is because they don't have creativity neither inspiration to innovate in some aspect.
both have pros and cons.
if you were taught, you might be stuck with "making music that is too complex for the average audience"
if you taught yourself, you might be stuck with "making music that follows the same patterns over and over again"
nothing is perfect, I can only tell you, that teaching myself helped me more than any music theory that I got, except for chords. I easily get trapped in theory.
I always felt like an outcast for having virtually almost no formal music education. Back in the day, I thought only people who had been classically trained could ever aspire to become professional musicians. You are an inspiration.
The biggest breakthrough to me, Hans Zimmer was self taught.
Let's be clear and not confuse the facts. Yes, he may not have been formally trained at the collegiate level. But this man is EXTREMELY EDUCATED in his craft! His theory, vocabulary, understanding of the orchestra and talent showcase that...
"Poor violas. They get to play the boring part."
Twosetviolin would be proud.
@@coalescence3835 40 hours a day les gooo
I'm playing the viola in a beginner string group, and I must admit that so far, the viola part in the music I've played hasn't really been boring. In fact, much of it (despite being harmonic) could have been used as a decent main melody.
It really is as simple and easy as that (Disclaimer: 35 years composing experience sold separately)
TheRantingBoy There’s certainly an opportunity for many of us to experience the Dunning-Kruger effect first hand here.
I've been doing this work for about 15 years now and have never been so in awe of a company who really thrives on bettering the community. Christian and Paul, hats off to you, really. You never cease to amaze me with your earnest sincerity behind these videos, hoping each one of us can extract a sliver or two of knowledge and improve our craft as a result. A big YES to a Day 2 and so forth. You're doing something really great here, even greater than all your excellent sound libraries combined. The world is a better place because of Spitfire.
I couldn’t agree more!
Absolutely!!!
here here!
Can I ask specifically what tech I need to buy to get started?
Do another one?? We want another hundred. Sunday afternoon, coffee, mince pie & a half hour orchestral masterclass from CH - bliss.
Clicked on this by accident. All of the sudden - 20 minutes later. Going straight to day 2.
Basically...
haha agree
I clicked by accident too, the best accident I've made since my first child.
@@user-ul9mt6wb7b I haven't asked him
OMG. I absolutely cannot state enough how great this is. As an old man who has been making music for over half a century, all my (well, midi) life I've wanted a tutorial like this. I haven't even finished day one (about 15 minutes in, but I'm going to watch and rewatch this MANY times) and already I've learned more than years of musical training (I'm classically trained) and reading dozens of books on both composition, arranging and orchestration, and musical theory. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I don't know if you do more than just these two but I'll follow you anywhere (and buy anything you're selling).
I recently started to make music again. After 30 years rallying in Business and life, now it is time. My time. Your Video and your spirit is absolutely pure Inspiration. Please make more days! So will I.
ITS HIS TIME
Rock on Jörg! Go for it!
I’m in the exact same place. I used to compose in a small keyboard when younger but academics types will frown upon you and discourage you.
@@luisfmoreno Not if you work your ass off in music education :o Lisboa gang
I'm in same frame of mind. I started my music journey 3 years ago, after 56 years rallying in I.T. and life. I'm living a happy life, and I'm not looking back.
When brass gets loud it becomes brassy
-Christian
Lol
"Brassy" (or Cuivré, with its French version) is actually an orchestration term mostly used in French Horn parts to designate the more aggressive timbre obtained through strong breath rather than a more mellow woodwind-ish soft brass sound. Probably the fff samples (activated when this controller he uses is all the way up) contain recordings of instruments played "Brassy-Cuivré" and he was talking about that.
White pixels driving me insane.
@@ErayAltin You have a limited sense of humour!
How Brass!!
this was such an amazing watch, thank you!
Thanks a lot for taking your time for this!!
i hear british accent, i feel authenticity
Even the word "authenticity" sounds more authentic with a British accent
Just imagine David Attenborough saying it and you'll cream
unless you are named Boris
@@ianinvancouverbc That would have the opposite effect
but the hands seems italian speaking
Absolutely fantastic work and education! Please make a day two!
The gods of orchestration demand it!
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Day two and day three! 👍
Don't forget day 365 too.
Hugely encouraging. Thank you for putting this out there, Christian.
this is wonderful, i genuinely cant thank you enough for making this turtorial.
Essential viewing for anyone who wants to write orchestral music- Particularly those without compositional training- Well done christian - lets have number 2 please! 5 stars
Every time i sit at my desk with my DAW open, i feel so powerless, i mean, there is an entire endless world in front of me, finding a place to start is so difficoult.
Anyway, rhank you very much for your suggestions and i'd love to watch a day two.
Get out of your head and maybe out of your DAW at first. Just sit behind a piano or pick up a guitar and start jamming. Just play, and write down or record good ideas with your phone. Then take it into your daw and just have fun. Just try things and filter ideas later!
I find that if I walk for a few miles (without earphones) ideas come of their own accord
@@MrVleker thanks for your idea.. let me try it out. Im stuck somewhere
Amazing! Thanks for doing this Christian. I learned so much.
Love your videos (and spitfire products of course), this was a huge help. Thanks
I keep The Study of Orchestration by Sam Adler on my desk. It's truly one of the greatest references that I believe every composer should own. You don't need to read it front to back (though I have and it's wonderful), but definitely a handy tool. Also, thanks Christian, I hope you keep these Orchestral Programming series coming. It's always very helpful to have someone bring it back to the basics for us all.
Please do.. Day two, three, four.. week five, six, seven.. This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you!
I was looking for a video like this. Thank you VERY MUCH Christian Henson & Splitfire Audio!! Also very good advices from Christian!
Chris, you're an inspiration. That orchestral comp, gave me shivers.
Definitely a whole series! Thanks!
I swear you guys are in my head at the moment, every time I’ve wanted to learn something recently up pops one of your videos covering it 😁 Thanks so much, looking forward to more.
You're honestly so inspirational. The way you explain things is very authentic, articulate and powerful. It was a great tutorial and I loved every second of it!
I love all of Spitfire’s orchestrating videos, I found them all so helpful, and they have played a great part in my leaning to compose and orchestrate. Thank you Spitfire Audio!
This has got to be the most informative, positive and enjoyable tutorial i've seen in a very long time. I've gained knowledge here that i've been wracking my head for ages about, and it's crazy that Christian Henson makes it looks and sound so easy and fearless. Cheers to Spitfire Audio for this series, thank you very much.
This is incredible. We need more tutorials like this becaude this is exactly what I needed to know about producing orchestral pieces. And it is so inspiring to know that we come from the humbling beginnings. I also can't read music and I have had those days that I was in tears with no hope. So watching this makes my outlook on producing so much better. Thank you Spitfire. 🙏❤
The final bit of advice is so true!
This was so good. Thank you so much for sharing your insight, knowledge, experience and heart with us. Just brilliant!
love it, christian. I've also been mostly self-taught my whole life, and its always instructive/inspiring to learn how other people approach musical problems.
This was the video where I truly started to understand how to write and program orchestra music. One can imagine it’s only been that long since as well. Thank you, Christian and Spitfire team.......have a drink for me drink!
Immediately intrigued and hooked by the opening shot.
I really enjoyed watching this and you really have a great and easy way of explaining the process without being overwhelmed. Thank you for recording this. It has inspired me to give this another go.
Phenomenal lesson. Thank u so much. That was absolutely fantastic to watch, listen and learn.
I just started composing orchestral music and this is the best tutorial I’ve seen so far. You have a calming way about you.
Please do another one, it was amazing.
This was a joy to watch. Thank you.
love how enthusiastic you are describing the creative process. Inspiring.
Just stumbled on this after entering the Westwood scoring competition, and am absolutely loving it ... wish I'd found it sooner. Will be watching more of your videos (and no doubt investing in your libraries) - inspirational stuff, especially for self-taught musicians who find orchestration a bit overwhelming!
OMG! So useful video!!! Thank you very much! I would pay for tutorials like this one. Christian Henson explained everything so well to understand!
What's a wonderful video, thank you Christian Henson !
I loved this. Thanks for taking the time to do it. More please.
Tears and snot would be an epic title for a modern-day orchestral masterpiece.
His body language really shows how much he enjoys what he is doing. It's an incredibly inspiring video especially for someone like me who has bought some orchestral instruments on a whim but never got to learn the "classic" music theory.
Fantastic Video. I Appreciate everyone involved in getting this video posted.
You make it sounds so easy, it's stunning... Thank you so much for sharing.
Great stuff! As a composer who has studied theory, harmony, counterpoint I can appreciate not having to know this, because when I started composing I just did it by ear. That being said, theory, Harmony etc... has gotten me out of a pickle many times! But ultimately it’s about the ears and the music came before the theory! Cheers brother!
Thank you Christian, I am where you were at the start of your journey. I am no longer afraid!
Ahhhh this video was just what I needed. Thank you. This simplifies so much when it comes to orchestral arrangements. That totally makes sense with visualizing you are playing the instrument. Brilliant!!!
This is illuminating, elucidating and ideologically transformative! Thank you!
As well as fantastic musician, you are a phenomenal tutor too! I love how you explain clearly why certain techniques are used and how to go about creating realistic-sounding results. I'm looking forward to watching many more of your videos like this!
Mark Aylward agreed. It’s one thing to know your craft, but if you can’t communicate it well then you’re just another common fish in the CZcams sea. CH has a natural knack for explaining clearly - with a dash of humour and without any sense of condescension. Oh and all in 4K 😃
I have always strugled with Traditional learning enviroments due to dsylexia and ADHD+.
I was on the edge of giving up until I watched this vid.
Thank you thank you thank you! I will send you my first Kompleet compastion when I'm done.
That was right up my street! Definitely would like a part two, so well presented and as someone who recently have started using Logic and want to get into orchestrations, this was brilliant, thank you.
Absolutely brilliant lesson. Can’t thank you enough. Look forward to following this series
Kudos on a great tutorial, and here's another vote for a Day Two.
...and Three, Four, Five etc...
"I decided to call my girlfriend up. Crying. Tears and snot. She left me 2 weeks later."
Someone who does this showed not to be worthy and therefore did you a favor. There are much better people out there!
Good for her. You are a lover not a therapist first and foremost, if she cant handle the brunt of your emotions she doesnt deserve to stay and be miserable
@@kingkylie9655 in your last quote it seems like expressing your troubles should be a paid service to the therapist and the role of a partner is to only see you happy ?
Lol. This be the truth. Either your lover or mother. It seems to be different for girls (When they cry and weak it's ok - guy expected to be supportive n play daddy. Not my desire but just an observation on the expected roles of romance.
@@justsomeguywhocommentsonev4741 Yes good point :) Back to the music!!!
Love your passion Christian!! Thanks for it, the music, your teaching and your spirit!! A true searcher!!
What an inspiration this video was. With gratitude and respect, thank you!
I'm not musical in the slightest. Love hearing it, cannot play though. I think your enthusiasm and explanations for your process are infectious, especially the 'brass just sounds mental'. I don't know how I got here but I think I'll stay a while.
Christian, thank you for making this inspiring video. I love that you were self taught and instead of thinking of it as a negative or a weakness, you think of it as a strength and make a very valid point that you can find your own voice more easier. I am self taught as well.
Also, your girlfriend at the time for leaving you when you cried in front of her shows that she was not a keeper actually and did a favor for leaving you. You don't want someone who you can't fully express yourself.
Lovely piece!
Thank you for your time and work in this realm, very inspiring and compelling insight! I vote for day 2
Simple enough and extremely interesting as ever. Thank you Christian 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
i have a theory in my life and it says: when someone makes it look too easy, know he's a legend.
sir.. this left me jaw dropped !! hats off
I'm also a proud owner of a S.Adler Orchestration manual. Definitely helps.
Marnix Peeters .. Own the Adler orchestration book too. My professor in college used it in a couple of orchestration courses, which he told us it will be a book we will want to keep for good to refer back to at times. He was so right. Great book!
All books are good and contain lots of information missing from the others. I would heartily recommend Walter Piston's books.
Just found this video. Absolutely terrific work flow. Very logical and very helpful. Ty Mr Henson!
Came up as a random vid, watched it and really enjoyed the breakdown of parts, ive been programming for years, and ypur delivery was so simple...
Thanks for "showing your work," as maths teachers would say: I really appreciate seeing how the process can work, particularly using ensemble patches. While I'm not aiming at scoring for actual humans to perform, I do appreciate the need to have empathy / imagination for the performers (like not writing a drumkit part requiring five limbs!).
The best drummers have at least eight limbs.
Yes please .. day 2!
Thanks for showing the whole process of orchestral arrangement- so simply and clearly.
Christian Henson, thank you so much for this. You are an inspiration.
22:13 The white-covered orchestration book which remained unmentioned is the "Orchestration" by Walter Piston. I agree that Adler's book accompanied by audio-visual material is the bible of orchestration but since Piston's book appeared on screen, I thought it has to be mentioned. I also recommend "Instrumentation/Orchestration" by Alfred Blatter which is more focused on full capacity of individual instruments rather than orchestral sections and conventional orchestral applications.
Good eye, appreciated!
Christian-
I just wanted to really really thank you for making this video. For me it is absolutely priceless and you have inspired and encouraged me to dig deep and dedicate more time to doing what I love so much....music. I was able to follow your template and compose a piece that when I listen back to I am like....wait a second....I wrote that? so thank you, thank you , thank you .
I will be watching as many of your videos as time allows. Brilliant!
Very comprehensive and very nice. Would love to see this continuing! Thanks
Brilliant, thanks so much for this Spitfire and Christian!
I'm late to the party, but damn, I love this.
Thank you, Christian, just fantastic.
Subbed and diggin it!
Btw & FYI, Rick Beato sent me here.
"never fear orchestral music" day 2 please!
thanks for the inspiration!
Just watched this for the first time as it was linked in one of your more recent vids…so glad I found this as it’s given me back my confidence which has been shaken a tad after a session with an experienced Viola player - this video is truly inspiring - thank you 🙏🏻😊
Absolutely brilliant. Well done. Love it. Thank you very much! I've been looking for this kind of explanation, demo and motivating presentation for a very long time. Please sir, I want some more.
Day two and beyond please 😄
Sounds like something straight out of the Starbound soundtrack, very nice. my only regret is that I don't have $500 to blow on sound library lol. In fact all the VSTs I dooo own came complimentary with my native-instruments midi keyboard controller so I actually have all the prerequisite software to run this. just not the prerequisite wallet XD
Loved your enthusiasm Christian, and the brilliant way you demystified your process. Inspiring
So glad I came across Spitfire Audio videos, learning so much about music production, thank you very much and Merry Christmas..
"Here are the two reference books that Christian recommends to have gather dust at the back of your studio" :D Awesome!
Actually, the. Sam Adler orchestration book is really great. I own seven different orchestration books, and it probably has the most useful advice of any of them. I want to know what the second book in the video was. He never said.
perhaps you didn't study at a uni, but you sound like you've studied your field quite a lot.
i would define auto-didactic reading, listening and watching, a form of study though.
A sense of peace runs through me from your story shared here. I don't feel overwhelmed by the modules and sound patches. I don't feel like I am alone any more with what I am encountering.
Thanks. Really good content and great giving attitude. The “follow your taste” concept resonates perfectly with where I am.
"The brah-ss sounds MENTAL"
I love this guy so much.
"Violins don't inherently sound very nice when you play them." Agreed.
Thank you so much, this was exactly what I needed to hear right now, someone coming from a lack of knowledge to this, and was such a great video to watch!
What piano is he used on the first track? So intimate. Love it!
Interesting video. Sounds like something from the "Cities: Skylines" game!
i was thinking exactly the same hahaha
Same, or perhaps Starbound
I love how passionate you are about all of this! I've been playing rock/metal my whole life and have been wanting to get into orchestral composition and was afraid to get started...your videos are beautifully inspiring.
Best tutorial video I've found for Orchestral writing yet! Thank you. Cheers.
That's so funny: He says, he never studied music...and I tell myself, what the hell I am doing wrong then!?
Some equations we're not able to work out.
Ur not having the brain then