i always thought that TA4 getting just one more DP note would actually make it good. so they did it. they coulda left at that. but they gave uppercut and beatdown an unnecessary amount of stun, so now it's just OP.
Yeah I used it a long while back and the dp node and nails getting fixed(aka not stopping midair after moving 2 feet) was all it needed. But now in the current state of YBA, that's not viable anymore due to the massive influx of Stands that can delete your hp in just a couple moves, coincidentally those same Stands also seem to have massive stun options. Unless you're a massive fan of the game or just really really good at pvp, I honestly wouldn't recommend people play the game considering 99% of the content is pvp based
As a tusk act 4 main since the release of the stand, this leaves me sad, since I liked it because it was a popular yet underrated stand in the game and not very many people were using it (and it required some skill to use), now everyone just uses it because of the wormhole stun bug, and I'm 100% sure that after fixing that everyone is going to stop using it again Sure you can use whatever you want but this is kinda sad for me
Let's be honest, tusk wasn't good in the first place. half of tusk moves can be blocked or get stuck in the middle of the air and all the other stands just have more moves or better combos. Giving stuns while removing the stand wasn't a good idea but without it tusk is just a gamble of hitting the nails or doing no damage. Uzu should just rework tusk again with more moves that are based better on the manga and better bd animations. It's Tusk act 4, the last act and it sucks for a stand that is consider one of the top tier stands on jojo.
Also RHCP has been over buffed, it now has no weaknesses, it's a close combat stand but also a range combat stand that has true M1s into pinky and into jabs, flash combos into discharge and there's no way to stop the stand now. HOW ARE ALL OF YOU STILL SAYING RHCP ISN'T OP. I main RHCP, and I can certainly say that it is OP, I test all my combos on block dummies that just recently spawned, not block broken ones, those are more stunned, but enough explanation, let me say why it's OP. With a Hamon build, this stand has fast true M1s that deal 6.9 dmg, a combo extender that deals around 40, pinky deals 50 and DOES combo off of M1s, has discharge which would be fine if it weren't because of the other skills that are OP, has TP dashes, a pilot that helps you land all your moves easily, and it's amazingly hard to see what's even hitting you with all of the visual glitches, so this is a good close range stand, a mid middle range stand, and a good long range stand... all of these things aren't good enough individually but having so many tools in a moveset is what makes it OP, I'll know if you didn't read this, now go and play before claiming stuff.
@@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee2163 ...what's weak about the Stand exactly, low damage? Anubis had the same damage and it was reported as OP, the charge is almost instant now, jabs deal 30 damage, pinky slash deals 20 dmg+ 24 bleeding, flash has an enormous range, the windup reduction on discharge makes it a guaranteed spec block break and the stand speed is fast, both M1s and pilot run, I ask again, what's so weak?
Leaving it at the one dp increase would’ve been reasonable, Tusk isn’t exactly the best but it was lacking physical power to match projectiles. It’s nice we got that, but the other changes are just blatantly overpowered and done for attention to the update
I was using tusk because of the really fast new nail glide, and I looked at the patch notes and thought: “surely it isn’t THAT much stun right?” And I went into a single 1v1s match and oneshotted someone with the uppercut - bd - uppercut combo route. They had good ping and were constantly buffering block so I knew what was wrong and switched to something else after I left to give them the W. Not touching the stand until this is FIXED.
@@TheRealGam Okay. Let's say i use normal TA4, which is true That's ME What about the like , skill less people people who can't even beat a mobile player with a pc do you think they'll use ta4 normally?
eclipse you can check the hp of anything by using crazy diamonds new beatdown, check how much the beatdown heals the player and lets say the heal was 20.8, multiply by 10 and you get 208 which is their health (works on npcs too)
@@kitchentowel-g8d well obviously you havent used the beatdown or just havent observed properly and im not talking about the healthbar, im talking about the exact number of their max health
@@liguow yes and u can see the numbers with that visual health since it heals 10 times and those 10 times its 10% of the max health so you can determine the actual max health by multiplying a single heal tick by 10
Here's the combo's damage: 97 (first section up until Beatdown) + 60 (I didnt factor in the 0.1 barrage and 0.2 barrage) + After the beatdown, the combo did 194.9 = 351.9 damage in total. It will do 263.9 against boxing. Max vitality + boxing passives is around 252HP. It will not one shot vboxing. THIS IS THE MINIMUM DAMAGE. I didn't calculate the 0.1 or 0.2 barrage in the BD. Tusks barrage does 62 damage in total and has 39 hits in it. (I didnt count Hamon or spin because they probably wont be active for the duration of that combo). GENERAL STATEMENTS ABOUT TUSK: Tusk needed that damage buff. Simply because stands like SP, TW, TWAU and even base D4C would out damage. SP, TW and TWAU had better options in Close quarters and better comos. TWAU was just a batter stand. Tusks m1s did do 0.1 more damage but that was it. Tusk was harder to get than SPTW and KCR. The latter two stands did more damage. Even if we forget that you get 3 free requiem arrows for getting Max level, winning 1 SBR would get you a requiem arrow in contrast to needing multiple wins for POTENTIALLY getting a Pelvis and Arm. Wormhole uppercut also needed a buff, it was too slow and wasnt worth it, Plus if you blocked and reacted youd get free damage.
So with your calculations. Do you think something like WA vamp boxing can survive? With its high defenses and vamp blood I think it might Edit: Nvm vboxing alone survives LOL
@@hlanguhome7905 No idea buddy, its what uzu wants be he dosent even play the game. He buffed it by giving it blood regen He's just proved it with this tusk video.
Never saw the point in buffing ta4, it was fine before, the extra dp upgrade is questionable but I would've been fine if that was the only buff. What I suggest is maybe making uppercut more noticeable but not as slow as the old one. I also suggest remove the stun all together from uppercut and beat down as they make 0 sense being there.
Imo, increase all uppercuts (wormhole uppercut, zipper uppercut and void surprise) hitbox and make them either blockable or parriable (probably blockable for wormhole and zipper, parriable for void) that would make it so u cant escape it with dash or jumping anymore but still being fair
Imo tusk just could not handle pressure at all. Your only good moves before was either trying to combo start with wormhole nails, or try and rely on nails to combo escape, which we all know how that goes. The stand was incredibly player dependent, with literally only one move that you would have to react to in order to counter the stand. But this new tusk is absolutely broken. Wormhole uppercut would’ve been decently fine if it didn’t stun at the end, same with the beatdown.
Wdym Tusk was fine before? Let's be honest. Tusk wasn't good in the first place. Half of the tusk moves can be blocked or get stuck in the middle of the air and all the other stands just have more moves or better combos. Giving stuns while removing the stand wasn't a good idea but without it tusk is just a gamble of hitting the nails or doing no damage. Uzu should just rework tusk again with more moves that are based better on the manga and better bd animations. It's Tusk act 4, the last act and it sucks for a stand that is consider one of the top tier stands on jojo.
@@Colon_D I personally use to play it, ta4 vamp all be it. I picked vamp since it gives free nails. Most tusks before the update just played ranged as they should and only went close to get a block break or parry for a bd.
@@somerandomperson4586 it's not your opinion, tusk never could handle pressure. Most moves got canceled unless you got the combo going. It was best to just stay back and shoot at enemies but now all tusks just wormhole then go for uppercut and most cases it hits.
I can almost guarantee the wormhole uppercut stun was a bug. I assume the devs earlier made the stun end after a set time after the move activated instead of after it landed to prevent hitbox delay nonsense, but they forgot to change it but the move is faster so now it stuns for too long.
YOURE SO RIGHT that has to be what happened because the same thing happened months ago when they made timestop slower and Platinum slam faster; when timestop was made slower they didn’t extend the endlag stun of using the move so you could use other moves right before the timestop actually started, allowing time skip right before time stop (or any more in the game, including cancelling your own rage mode depletion) and with platinum slam being faster, your character was derpily walking around stuck in the old endlag of a previously slower move.
come in if i am begin honest THE STND NEEDS A REWORK the move set is not great for a beat down that is impoaaible to land only if your enemy is kinda stupid not to take the jaw breaker or what ever block break move that cant be parried its just bad nails are good worm hole uppercut is impossible to hit and the rest of the moves are just not good for what tusk is only m 1 and barrage
mid as hell no guard breaks and your only move that went through block was golen rectangle nail and the problem is it ragdolls and gives them s on wakeup
@@Bobo-ry5gq i am talking about pre buff tusk when it was literally trash becauste steel balls were blockable and all your nails were blockable except for golden rectangle nail, and tusk had no true combos because nails had a massive gap you could block or use a counter during
This is like UK weather, We complain about the rain, then when its too hot we complain that it's too hot. Before, Tusk was too weak, We complained, Now its too op.
Tusk was never too weak idk which 'we' you are talking about but you are the only one ive seen complain that tusk was 'too weak' just because it wasn't unbalanced.
@@theobliterator2362 By weak, i meant the people playing it couldnt use it properly, Displayed in eclipses other videos and if you ever played 1v1s. And now everyone using it has a braindead inf combo that we're complaining about again.
@@itzkizo3770 Becuase people can't use a stand doesn't mean its weak those are two different things and I have played 1v1s with tusk and against good tusk players and it is by no means weak neither is it hard to use, even is you have trash aim as long as you know how to do nail glide wormhole nails and bd you are pretty much set, and spin had a 50% true combo with tusk if you had good fps.
I think what happened here is that uzu just made it faster but didn't reduce to stun time to go with it. So you are stunned for the extra time the tp used to take.
Tbh tusk act 4 was strong before in my opinion because if they block wormhole nail you can just use golden rectangle nail and they can't do anything about it or if they don't block same scenario, also golden rectangle nail has a tiny bit of stun so if timed right you can land bd, jaw breaker, eye gouge when they get up, also nail shots have hyper armour so if someone is winning an m1 trade you can use nail shots into another move
GUYS you don't understand it's just because tusk is cannonically overpowered, so they made it overpowered so it's more accurate, everything is alright :)
If you block jaw breaker after one stack you are instantly dead, you can’t even barrage back! This is literally the C-Moon auto combo but WORSE THAN PRE-NERF. Holy Christ.
I dont get why people dont like the execute system, its very simple, get enemy below half hp, hit your execution, win, even if you mess up your execute so what just keep putting pressure till they die
oh so you are saying that we should make GER and Twoh the most fucking broken stands and we should make so that KCR doesn't exist beacuse it isn't cannon and we should make so that hamon insta kills you again but like 6 times worse- *S H U T U P*
Bruh CD and Ta4 were buffed to the sky tusk had a infinite combo and same with the CD rework it can stun make a giant stun it can make u vulnerable and it had A 80+ DMG BEATDOWN WHICH YOU CANT block bc it just can stun or use the angelo move and plus enraged which is more than a half dmg bd Same with tusk if you arent a parry god tryhard youre screwed even if you are GE with a lot of healing a tusk can just wormhole upprrcut and ur drd
I think they should keep the speed on Wormhole Uppercut, but make it not stand crash and make the beatdown do a lot more knockback, also make the beatdown a cutscene
I think it would’ve been better if it was unblockable but you could also move in the wormhole sort of like that one bugs bunny move from multi versus,you shoot a nail,enter a wormhole,walk around and go under your opponent,press the button again for tusk to come out of the worm hole and uppercut the enemy.
@@chichobar1705 only the stun, either remove the stun completely on the beatdown and Wormhole Uppercut or only remove the stun on the beatdown and nerf the Wormhole Uppercut's stun
I use Tusk Act 4 for a really long time and it really needed a buff. An experienced player could easily block wormhole uppercut and the nails. I was happy once i saw the uppercut being much faster but the stun is too much either they reduce the stun or completely remove it. PLUS: the new added 2 maps are so f***ing glitchy %90 percent of the time when i use wormhole uppercut in the 2 new added maps i just get stuck in the ground and cant get out till i use another uppercut. And sometimes when i use my beatdown it teleports people above Morioh map (the place where you wait till 1v1 starts) causing their games to crash. (same happened to me few times)
to clear things up paragon mentioned in one of the announcements channel that the stun was unintentional and probably a bug (don't know why that hasn't been fixed) and to eclipse complaining about pointless invisible walls it's to avoid diavolo flinging and despawning
The invisible walls at the end is to prevent people cheesing the diavolo with pilot stands and make people learn how to just press block smh is just one key why is hard
I agree with eclipse on this. I played tusk act 4 since i got it and thats mainly because its very versatile. TA4's main weakness was blocking but people just dont block enough in this game. Really sad with the change because i know for sure i will get shit on by the players if i play ta4 even though iv always played TA4. Really hope they nerf the stun or completely remove it.
I used to use anubis pluck because I got kikoku and found it cool. Learned that it was braindead yet i still lost 90% of my games (except that one game) which just shows how bad i am
vbox one shot combo : wormhole uppercut + wormhole nail + eye gouge + m1 + boxing barrage + jaw break , its a huge dmg combo 45 + 27 + 25 + 10 + 100 + 40 test it on a specless or pluck user and tell them to block the entire time
Btw, if u didn't know u can actually see how much hp an npc's hp is with CD beatdown. How? it heals u up by 1/10 of ur hp. so if u multiply the amount of one heal does, u can see how much HP a boss / npc has
when you said you don’t like to ruin people’s days for fun I felt that because I was looking for rokas in main game and these 2 tusks kept chasing me down and spamming wormhole uppercut, since the stun was so long I couldn’t even move or block
If there was a bug related to gamepasses/products we all know Uzu would fix it in the same hour, but since balancing stands isn't important for him, well, you already know lol
I think those walls at 10:06 are for the very rare case where some poor laggy soul sends diavolo flying off the building, it sometimes happened on the old map so maybe they added those to prevent that?
Ta4 never really needed buffs. The only reason people think Tusk is bad is because the nails don’t work half the time and uppercut was god awful. The weird thing about uppercut is that there wasn’t really a way to buff it without making it ludicrously overpowered. Obviously the stun on getup was really dumb and should not have been added, however I don’t think the decreased startup should have been added either. Because of the way lag compensation works, the opponent realistically has very little time to react and this is made even worse because the game servers are often terrible effectively guaranteeing uppercut off nails.
I remember when after the map change update, NPC time stops were broken to the point where if an NPC stopped time then not only will their time stop not work but they will also start running in place and generally not attack you. That's how I incredibly easily got Made in Heaven
Not sure if anyone knows yet but sometimes in 1v1s for me when tusk bds me i get sent the the top of the map and they win. They win because my game just crashes everytime from the bd and I actually have to go to task manager to close Roblox out and still hear the bd for sometime. This only happens in the new map with the huge fire in the middle.
tusk is now very op u can confirm wormhole beat down from guard break and parry and u get end lag and stand crash after the beatdown so that means u can confirm BEATDOWN ON IT
Dude they must just change the actual wind up and try to make the wormhole unblockable and unparyable there for if you use the worm hole uppercut therefore if you use it no one will be punish.
The community: "Man tusk act 4 is pretty garbage since it's a gamble whether or not your nails will land or get stuck. They can just block the nails and the wormhole uppercut too. It needs a buff." Uzu: Ight, lemme buff it. The community:" Man this is too strong it needs a nerf." Uzu: Wait, this whole operation was your idea.
Crazy diamond is also insanely busted. The new rock trap stuns for WAY too long, and you can LOOP RAGE MODE. Plus a TRACKING BLOCK BREAKING AND STUNNING PROJECTILE. Sure you need to land the blood slash first, but even if they block it, you can still fire the tracking projectile. As if guns weren’t already busted enough, let’s make a gun that has aim bot!!!
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Tusk really got the “Infinite” combo
Not infinite
@@pillrat it is a reference to the SBR manga
@@pillrat umm, actually, it's not infinite -🤓
@@Azrael42011 fr man
i swear, every one of these videos has a pun in the coment section
Remember when Johnny said it's Tuskin' time, and Tusked all over everyone in SBR?
That part was the best
It was so inspirational when he Tusked so hard he flew out of his wheelchair
Bro 💀
I loved that part
@@sahirattri6467 and then he started walking
i always thought that TA4 getting just one more DP note would actually make it good. so they did it. they coulda left at that. but they gave uppercut and beatdown an unnecessary amount of stun, so now it's just OP.
I feel like the only thing it needs is the extra dp note and a slightly faster windup on wormhole uppercut (like 25% faster, not how it is rn)
@@66ixty9ine no? the bd's an execute move you probably just tested it on different healths
the only thing necesary was that W.U was faster , and with that , increase the cooldown
@@66ixty9ine no they didn't, the beatdown damage increased because of destructive power.
Yeah I used it a long while back and the dp node and nails getting fixed(aka not stopping midair after moving 2 feet) was all it needed. But now in the current state of YBA, that's not viable anymore due to the massive influx of Stands that can delete your hp in just a couple moves, coincidentally those same Stands also seem to have massive stun options. Unless you're a massive fan of the game or just really really good at pvp, I honestly wouldn't recommend people play the game considering 99% of the content is pvp based
As a tusk act 4 main since the release of the stand, this leaves me sad, since I liked it because it was a popular yet underrated stand in the game and not very many people were using it (and it required some skill to use), now everyone just uses it because of the wormhole stun bug, and I'm 100% sure that after fixing that everyone is going to stop using it again
Sure you can use whatever you want
but this is kinda sad for me
Strongest tusk metamancer
VS
Average chad tusk pre buff enjoyer
Let's be honest, tusk wasn't good in the first place. half of tusk moves can be blocked or get stuck in the middle of the air and all the other stands just have more moves or better combos. Giving stuns while removing the stand wasn't a good idea but without it tusk is just a gamble of hitting the nails or doing no damage. Uzu should just rework tusk again with more moves that are based better on the manga and better bd animations. It's Tusk act 4, the last act and it sucks for a stand that is consider one of the top tier stands on jojo.
Before the buff tusk was garbage
@@GPTY678 facts
I feel you my fellow tusk main.
The segment at 2:10 warmed my heart. Thank you eclipse for being a YBA saint.
oh well time to extract his rib cage and get a woman bunnygirl "thing"
@@Horseseseses This is where the fun begins....
@@chloespellHmmm, where did i hear that ?
@@Horseseseses Troll time
hierophant green hamon
Increasing the dp on tusk was a mistake cause now paired with hamon does 12 base damage without a defense boost
Vamp users : im fucked rn
cd awakening used to near 1 shot if u got a good rock trap off and the other player didn't know what to do
u mad
nothing new here *twau hamon*
@@waterbolt059 twau also got heavely nerfed
I think its like ... the world but 2 times worse now
Also RHCP has been over buffed, it now has no weaknesses, it's a close combat stand but also a range combat stand that has true M1s into pinky and into jabs, flash combos into discharge and there's no way to stop the stand now.
HOW ARE ALL OF YOU STILL SAYING RHCP ISN'T OP.
I main RHCP, and I can certainly say that it is OP, I test all my combos on block dummies that just recently spawned, not block broken ones, those are more stunned, but enough explanation, let me say why it's OP.
With a Hamon build, this stand has fast true M1s that deal 6.9 dmg, a combo extender that deals around 40, pinky deals 50 and DOES combo off of M1s, has discharge which would be fine if it weren't because of the other skills that are OP, has TP dashes, a pilot that helps you land all your moves easily, and it's amazingly hard to see what's even hitting you with all of the visual glitches, so this is a good close range stand, a mid middle range stand, and a good long range stand... all of these things aren't good enough individually but having so many tools in a moveset is what makes it OP, I'll know if you didn't read this, now go and play before claiming stuff.
But ill tell you its still weak has heck
No one uses that stand tho
I used to main RCHP before this update and it was good. It was actually genuinly good. Why they continued to buff it is beyond me
@@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee2163 ...what's weak about the Stand exactly, low damage? Anubis had the same damage and it was reported as OP, the charge is almost instant now, jabs deal 30 damage, pinky slash deals 20 dmg+ 24 bleeding, flash has an enormous range, the windup reduction on discharge makes it a guaranteed spec block break and the stand speed is fast, both M1s and pilot run, I ask again, what's so weak?
@@unkirbyjosuke1904 also they have tp dashes now 😭
Leaving it at the one dp increase would’ve been reasonable, Tusk isn’t exactly the best but it was lacking physical power to match projectiles. It’s nice we got that, but the other changes are just blatantly overpowered and done for attention to the update
Faster uppercut is fine
It has been almost a week and NO PATCHES FOR TUSK
I was using tusk because of the really fast new nail glide, and I looked at the patch notes and thought: “surely it isn’t THAT much stun right?” And I went into a single 1v1s match and oneshotted someone with the uppercut - bd - uppercut combo route. They had good ping and were constantly buffering block so I knew what was wrong and switched to something else after I left to give them the W. Not touching the stand until this is FIXED.
right
You can still use Ta4 but not attack them after uppercut until their stun is gone
@@TheRealGam You can atack. Why do you think that 100-0 combo was true?
@@chichobar1705 You can still use Ta4 normally but not abuse that stun on uppercut to ruin the experience for others with a oneshot combo dummy🤦♂️
@@TheRealGam Okay. Let's say i use normal TA4, which is true
That's ME
What about the like , skill less people
people who can't even beat a mobile player with a pc
do you think they'll use ta4 normally?
eclipse you can check the hp of anything by using crazy diamonds new beatdown, check how much the beatdown heals the player and lets say the heal was 20.8, multiply by 10 and you get 208 which is their health (works on npcs too)
1. No you can't the crazy diamond BD doesn't heal
2. You can see people health over their fucking head already.
@@kitchentowel-g8d well obviously you havent used the beatdown or just havent observed properly
and im not talking about the healthbar, im talking about the exact number of their max health
@@kitchentowel-g8d bruh he was talking about total health
@@ranny940 dude it doesn’t heal, the heal is just visual effect
@@liguow yes and u can see the numbers with that visual health since it heals 10 times and those 10 times its 10% of the max health so you can determine the actual max health by multiplying a single heal tick by 10
Here's the combo's damage:
97 (first section up until Beatdown) + 60 (I didnt factor in the 0.1 barrage and 0.2 barrage) + After the beatdown, the combo did 194.9 = 351.9 damage in total. It will do 263.9 against boxing. Max vitality + boxing passives is around 252HP.
It will not one shot vboxing.
THIS IS THE MINIMUM DAMAGE. I didn't calculate the 0.1 or 0.2 barrage in the BD. Tusks barrage does 62 damage in total and has 39 hits in it.
(I didnt count Hamon or spin because they probably wont be active for the duration of that combo).
GENERAL STATEMENTS ABOUT TUSK:
Tusk needed that damage buff. Simply because stands like SP, TW, TWAU and even base D4C would out damage. SP, TW and TWAU had better options in Close quarters and better comos. TWAU was just a batter stand. Tusks m1s did do 0.1 more damage but that was it.
Tusk was harder to get than SPTW and KCR. The latter two stands did more damage. Even if we forget that you get 3 free requiem arrows for getting Max level, winning 1 SBR would get you a requiem arrow in contrast to needing multiple wins for POTENTIALLY getting a Pelvis and Arm.
Wormhole uppercut also needed a buff, it was too slow and wasnt worth it, Plus if you blocked and reacted youd get free damage.
WHY IS VBOXING STILL A THING.
So with your calculations. Do you think something like WA vamp boxing can survive? With its high defenses and vamp blood I think it might
Edit:
Nvm vboxing alone survives LOL
@@hlanguhome7905 No idea buddy, its what uzu wants be he dosent even play the game.
He buffed it by giving it blood regen
He's just proved it with this tusk video.
@@prestoo264 Vboxing and Vsubspecs are BS. That's another whole topic. Use normal boxing , vit 8-10 for reference on dmg
@@chichobar1705 yeah I’m aware of the scaling base for damage calcs just was wondering the effective health of some of the tabkiest things in game
Never saw the point in buffing ta4, it was fine before, the extra dp upgrade is questionable but I would've been fine if that was the only buff. What I suggest is maybe making uppercut more noticeable but not as slow as the old one. I also suggest remove the stun all together from uppercut and beat down as they make 0 sense being there.
Imo, increase all uppercuts (wormhole uppercut, zipper uppercut and void surprise) hitbox and make them either blockable or parriable (probably blockable for wormhole and zipper, parriable for void) that would make it so u cant escape it with dash or jumping anymore but still being fair
Imo tusk just could not handle pressure at all. Your only good moves before was either trying to combo start with wormhole nails, or try and rely on nails to combo escape, which we all know how that goes. The stand was incredibly player dependent, with literally only one move that you would have to react to in order to counter the stand.
But this new tusk is absolutely broken. Wormhole uppercut would’ve been decently fine if it didn’t stun at the end, same with the beatdown.
Wdym Tusk was fine before? Let's be honest. Tusk wasn't good in the first place. Half of the tusk moves can be blocked or get stuck in the middle of the air and all the other stands just have more moves or better combos. Giving stuns while removing the stand wasn't a good idea but without it tusk is just a gamble of hitting the nails or doing no damage. Uzu should just rework tusk again with more moves that are based better on the manga and better bd animations. It's Tusk act 4, the last act and it sucks for a stand that is consider one of the top tier stands on jojo.
@@Colon_D I personally use to play it, ta4 vamp all be it. I picked vamp since it gives free nails. Most tusks before the update just played ranged as they should and only went close to get a block break or parry for a bd.
@@somerandomperson4586 it's not your opinion, tusk never could handle pressure. Most moves got canceled unless you got the combo going. It was best to just stay back and shoot at enemies but now all tusks just wormhole then go for uppercut and most cases it hits.
The invisible wall’s purpose is to keep diavolo on the castle, as he was always falling before.
You still can cheese diavolo with classic stairs trick but this time it's not stairs, it's details of something which you can climb on.
I can almost guarantee the wormhole uppercut stun was a bug. I assume the devs earlier made the stun end after a set time after the move activated instead of after it landed to prevent hitbox delay nonsense, but they forgot to change it but the move is faster so now it stuns for too long.
Nah bro, sadly they're even asking ppl is wormhole end stun is op
YOURE SO RIGHT that has to be what happened because the same thing happened months ago when they made timestop slower and Platinum slam faster; when timestop was made slower they didn’t extend the endlag stun of using the move so you could use other moves right before the timestop actually started, allowing time skip right before time stop (or any more in the game, including cancelling your own rage mode depletion) and with platinum slam being faster, your character was derpily walking around stuck in the old endlag of a previously slower move.
This is what happens when we joke on something for too long, happened with zamasu in Dbfz and now it's tusk in yba
Eclipse: A one shot combo based on a tracking projectile…
*laughs in 6p spin*
Exept sex pistols doesnt have a barrage
Either the stand gets nerfed to dust or it gets a 1 shot combo
come in if i am begin honest THE STND NEEDS A REWORK the move set is not great for a beat down that is impoaaible to land only if your enemy is kinda stupid not to take the jaw breaker or what ever block break move that cant be parried its just bad nails are good worm hole uppercut is impossible to hit and the rest of the moves are just not good for what tusk is only m 1 and barrage
No bro they just need to remove the stun on wormhole uppercut and bd, and change golden rectangle nail into a melee block break
@@cengix8850 your golden rectangle nail suggestion is arguable but otherwise yeah i agree
Welcome to yba
@@inksans9700 bro u sound like someones who sucks at act 4 no offense
2:36 “
I completely don’t enjoy ruining other peoples fun”
scrolls in videos*
Sees video*
video titled:ruining peoples fun with hierophant green Hamon
As a pre-update tusk user, I can agree with the fact that tusk act 4 was alright, mid if you prefer it that way
mid as hell no guard breaks and your only move that went through block was golen rectangle nail and the problem is it ragdolls and gives them s on wakeup
@@medicgaming101 nah fam, in the right hands it can be stupid good
@@Bobo-ry5gq i am talking about pre buff tusk when it was literally trash becauste steel balls were blockable and all your nails were blockable except for golden rectangle nail, and tusk had no true combos because nails had a massive gap you could block or use a counter during
@@medicgaming101 he’s also talking about pre-nerf tusk.
If this buff was released before stone free update, tusk would be totally balanced
Why?
whats the logic behind that one
"If everything is OP, nothing is unbalanced"
Right?
No
Literally the only thing that can beat this right now is Pre-Nerf SCR + Vampire + Boxing
At this point it would be more concerning if yba actually released a good update
All the updates after stone free update are good just because one thing went wrong doesn't mean it's Bad
@@Night_Gale the stone free update was cheeks the fuck?
@@andrewfairweather4742 he said after the stone free update
@@andrewfairweather4742 It was good, didn’t worth the wait but it’s reasonable since uzu abandoned the game for months+ …
@@andrewfairweather4742 tell me bad things about the stone free update
This is like UK weather, We complain about the rain, then when its too hot we complain that it's too hot. Before, Tusk was too weak, We complained, Now its too op.
Tusk was never too weak idk which 'we' you are talking about but you are the only one ive seen complain that tusk was 'too weak' just because it wasn't unbalanced.
@@theobliterator2362 By weak, i meant the people playing it couldnt use it properly, Displayed in eclipses other videos and if you ever played 1v1s. And now everyone using it has a braindead inf combo that we're complaining about again.
@@itzkizo3770 Becuase people can't use a stand doesn't mean its weak those are two different things and I have played 1v1s with tusk and against good tusk players and it is by no means weak neither is it hard to use, even is you have trash aim as long as you know how to do nail glide wormhole nails and bd you are pretty much set, and spin had a 50% true combo with tusk if you had good fps.
@@theobliterator2362 Yes , however the illusion of it being bad is clearly there, if nobody can use it properly, Do you not get the correlation?
@@itzkizo3770 Bro wdym nobody can use it properly like its a hard stand to use, i've seen many ranked 2v2's and 1v1's players using tusk pre-buff.
4:46 you know eclipse is angry when he doesnt even censor his swears
I think what happened here is that uzu just made it faster but didn't reduce to stun time to go with it. So you are stunned for the extra time the tp used to take.
Tbh tusk act 4 was strong before in my opinion because if they block wormhole nail you can just use golden rectangle nail and they can't do anything about it or if they don't block same scenario, also golden rectangle nail has a tiny bit of stun so if timed right you can land bd, jaw breaker, eye gouge when they get up, also nail shots have hyper armour so if someone is winning an m1 trade you can use nail shots into another move
Nail shots do not have hyper armor
The moment i was watching the video, 8-10 seconds in and i see eclipse using wormhole uppercut, and im like "Oh, yeah i can already see that"
2:34 *cought* hg hamon video *cough*
GUYS you don't understand it's just because tusk is cannonically overpowered, so they made it overpowered so it's more accurate, everything is alright :)
If you block jaw breaker after one stack you are instantly dead, you can’t even barrage back! This is literally the C-Moon auto combo but WORSE THAN PRE-NERF. Holy Christ.
This was THE update.
I dont get why people dont like the execute system, its very simple, get enemy below half hp, hit your execution, win, even if you mess up your execute so what just keep putting pressure till they die
@URETHRA GAMING 35% HP makes more sense
@@TheRealGam well that is below half hp
@@cheeez5806 yeah but 49% is also bellow half and you can still bring it back, ridiculous
It's been more than 10 days and they are still not reverting it. How swell.
I don’t see what’s wrong here, Tusk has the power of infinity.
oh so you are saying that we should make GER and Twoh the most fucking broken stands
and we should make so that KCR doesn't exist beacuse it isn't cannon
and we should make so that hamon insta kills you again but like 6 times worse-
*S H U T U P*
LOL
lmao
My favorite scene in Steel Ball Run is when Johnny said "It's ballin time" and proceeded to beat Valentine in a 1v1 in 2k.
4:37
just do a CD bd on them, the healing it does is 10% of their actual hp(this is how I found out jp6 has 600 hp)
Bruh CD and Ta4 were buffed to the sky tusk had a infinite combo and same with the CD rework it can stun make a giant stun it can make u vulnerable and it had A 80+ DMG BEATDOWN WHICH YOU CANT block bc it just can stun or use the angelo move and plus enraged which is more than a half dmg bd
Same with tusk if you arent a parry god tryhard youre screwed even if you are GE with a lot of healing a tusk can just wormhole upprrcut and ur drd
I think they should keep the speed on Wormhole Uppercut, but make it not stand crash and make the beatdown do a lot more knockback, also make the beatdown a cutscene
I think it would’ve been better if it was unblockable but you could also move in the wormhole
sort of like that one bugs bunny move from multi versus,you shoot a nail,enter a wormhole,walk around and go under your opponent,press the button again for tusk to come out of the worm hole and uppercut the enemy.
I think just the damage node was okay, with what Tusk is, it being on par with most Stands damage wise didn't make much sense.
Infinite combo bad tho
No wonder that I'm losing to tusks in colosseum! At first I was convinced that I was garbage!
Eclipse Caring about other players having fun makes me wonder why everyone in the entire YBA Community will do anything to ruin your day.
"Nobody is surviving 300 damage"
Vamp Boxxing White album:We'll see about that
The fast uppercut literally broke the stand
no it was the stun
the stun , and maybe destructive power did
@@chichobar1705 i feel like a 0.1 extra damage on barrage isn t gonna change much
@@chichobar1705 only the stun, either remove the stun completely on the beatdown and Wormhole Uppercut or only remove the stun on the beatdown and nerf the Wormhole Uppercut's stun
Uzu in the next update : alright Boyz tusk act 4 has pilot now
honestly, fighting TA4 is more unenjoyable and cancerous then fighting a six pistols pre nerf.
fighting a d4c pre nerf though? extra emotional damage point if you're fighting d4c vampire unnerfed
“did anyone even test this”
Deja vu
I use Tusk Act 4 for a really long time and it really needed a buff. An experienced player could easily block wormhole uppercut and the nails. I was happy once i saw the uppercut being much faster but the stun is too much either they reduce the stun or completely remove it. PLUS: the new added 2 maps are so f***ing glitchy %90 percent of the time when i use wormhole uppercut in the 2 new added maps i just get stuck in the ground and cant get out till i use another uppercut. And sometimes when i use my beatdown it teleports people above Morioh map (the place where you wait till 1v1 starts) causing their games to crash. (same happened to me few times)
Same goes to cream void surprise in the new maps , u just get stucked on the floor
to clear things up paragon mentioned in one of the announcements channel that the stun was unintentional and probably a bug (don't know why that hasn't been fixed) and to eclipse complaining about pointless invisible walls it's to avoid diavolo flinging and despawning
Mf is so good that he stopped playing online to not ruin peoples game
The invisible walls at the end is to prevent people cheesing the diavolo with pilot stands and make people learn how to just press block smh is just one key why is hard
Eclipse, have you ever heard of "YBA: The Movie"???
no bad comment
YBA the movie is bad guys!1!1!11!
Promotions are not tolerated and will lead to an insta ban
Uzu was probably like
Ok I just releases 2 fairly balanced stands... I'm gonna tusk into a killing machine
yes i the First one yeet
🤓
No
@@peyejon6541 yes iam
Eclipse: "I dont wanna ruin other people's fun"
Me: Explain Hierophant Green + Hamon Video 🗿🗿
the wormhole uppercut has 17 frames of startup, which for those who dont know, is massively unreactable.
It's easy to react to it
@@saleusus you can react to 17 frames? thats some bs, thats just above 1/4th of a second
@@deletodraw1944 if that's true half of the yba players aren't human
@@light4532 well they arent human, thats a fact, but not in that way.
@@deletodraw1944 you're trash, every player with a monitor with at least 60hz can react to it, maybe try playing the game
Bonetrousle in the back while eclipse is talking is such a vibe lol
I agree with eclipse on this. I played tusk act 4 since i got it and thats mainly because its very versatile. TA4's main weakness was blocking but people just dont block enough in this game. Really sad with the change because i know for sure i will get shit on by the players if i play ta4 even though iv always played TA4. Really hope they nerf the stun or completely remove it.
I used to use anubis pluck because I got kikoku and found it cool. Learned that it was braindead yet i still lost 90% of my games (except that one game) which just shows how bad i am
“Nobody will survive that it’s over 300 damage”
People with white album+vamp+boxing: now this looks like a job for me
vbox one shot combo : wormhole uppercut + wormhole nail + eye gouge + m1 + boxing barrage + jaw break , its a huge dmg combo
45 + 27 + 25 + 10 + 100 + 40
test it on a specless or pluck user and tell them to block the entire time
oh btw crazy diamond has a 1 shot combo thats 3 moves barrage rock trap and beatdown in that order
they need to add a longer cooldown for that move and either make it so you cant get your stand knocked and make it punishable or remove the stun
4:52
Vamp subspecs: **Hello There**
Btw, if u didn't know u can actually see how much hp an npc's hp is with CD beatdown. How? it heals u up by 1/10 of ur hp. so if u multiply the amount of one heal does, u can see how much HP a boss / npc has
“And then I logged in and Tusk had a fucking infinite combo”
Seems like your average YBA Joe waking up
"this does over 300 fucking damage, nobody is going to survive that."
vampire boxing players: *allow us to introduce ourselves*
It was an inf combo tho 💀💀
Eclipse: it’s the same reason why i never even made a video on anubis pluck
Anubis pluck build or bust: Did you forgot me?
Nothing can escape this infinite combo
Scary monsters: Hold my beer
Wormhole nails - eye gouge - uppercut - wormhole nail - beatdown - wormhole nail - eye gouge - uppercut - wormhole nail - barrage - jaw breaker
when you said you don’t like to ruin people’s days for fun I felt that because I was looking for rokas in main game and these 2 tusks kept chasing me down and spamming wormhole uppercut, since the stun was so long I couldn’t even move or block
4:48 White album boxing vamp: let me introduce myself.
Fugo was standing there getting beat up clueless.
I hate when i decide not to talk about something I found out like this tusk combo, then the next day CZcamsrs starting milking it
10:09 those walls are there to prevent Diavolo from flying off the castle and despawning btw
If there was a bug related to gamepasses/products we all know Uzu would fix it in the same hour, but since balancing stands isn't important for him, well, you already know lol
I think those walls at 10:06 are for the very rare case where some poor laggy soul sends diavolo flying off the building, it sometimes happened on the old map so maybe they added those to prevent that?
man, eclipses rants are so addicting to listen to
DUDE THE NEW COLOSSEUM MAP LITERALLYS STUCK ME IN THE GROUND WHEN I WAS TRYING TO USE WORMHOLE UPPERCUT BRO !
I'm just waiting for eclipse to scream really loud while explaining how broken a stand is. Like REALLY loud.
Ta4 never really needed buffs. The only reason people think Tusk is bad is because the nails don’t work half the time and uppercut was god awful. The weird thing about uppercut is that there wasn’t really a way to buff it without making it ludicrously overpowered. Obviously the stun on getup was really dumb and should not have been added, however I don’t think the decreased startup should have been added either. Because of the way lag compensation works, the opponent realistically has very little time to react and this is made even worse because the game servers are often terrible effectively guaranteeing uppercut off nails.
Vamp boxing: I fear no man.
But that thing...
It scares me.
(insert current tusk act 4 here)
This has become Pokemon gen 8 levels of balancing
I like the music at the beginning within in a nutshell showcase of itself
Also Don't even forget HG got stupidly huge buffed with spin
I remember when after the map change update, NPC time stops were broken to the point where if an NPC stopped time then not only will their time stop not work but they will also start running in place and generally not attack you. That's how I incredibly easily got Made in Heaven
This has me driving insane, as I get stun by boxing afterwards as I cannot block it
Eclipse: I don't enjoy ruining the fun for other players
Also Eclipse: D4C LT is my guilty pleasure
2:36 literally chad eclipse
Not sure if anyone knows yet but sometimes in 1v1s for me when tusk bds me i get sent the the top of the map and they win. They win because my game just crashes everytime from the bd and I actually have to go to task manager to close Roblox out and still hear the bd for sometime. This only happens in the new map with the huge fire in the middle.
tusk is now very op u can confirm wormhole beat down from guard break and parry and u get end lag and stand crash after the beatdown so that means u can confirm BEATDOWN ON IT
Dude they must just change the actual wind up and try to make the wormhole unblockable and unparyable there for if you use the worm hole uppercut therefore if you use it no one will be punish.
Honestly as a tusk main I couldn’t be happier, source material wise ta4 is supposed to be one of the strongest stands in the franchise either way
The only reason I would use this is grinding stands like twoh with sbr kills because I kind of suck at pvp and get destroyed when teamed on
Uzu: makes quite a few good updates*
Me: ok what did you dooooooo???
Uzu:
Are you gonna continue subnautica, those are probably some of my fav videos of yours, good job anyway hope you have fun with whatever you decide
Since it wasn’t announced in the update list, it is very likely to be a bug
4:44 that one time Eclipse sweared without censoring it
I swear I replayed it 10 times cuz it was so "fucking" satisfying
Heaven ascended Dio lived for so long and saw more than a human memory's can store,but he has never seen such bullsh#t
“its tuskin time”
-johnny joestar
The community: "Man tusk act 4 is pretty garbage since it's a gamble whether or not your nails will land or get stuck. They can just block the nails and the wormhole uppercut too. It needs a buff."
Uzu: Ight, lemme buff it.
The community:" Man this is too strong it needs a nerf."
Uzu: Wait, this whole operation was your idea.
“Buff it” Doesn’t mean “give it a touch of death” lmao
"Let me pull my stand out" was taken to a whole other level.
I can not believe that ECLIPSE used wormhole uppercut
Crazy diamond is also insanely busted. The new rock trap stuns for WAY too long, and you can LOOP RAGE MODE. Plus a TRACKING BLOCK BREAKING AND STUNNING PROJECTILE. Sure you need to land the blood slash first, but even if they block it, you can still fire the tracking projectile. As if guns weren’t already busted enough, let’s make a gun that has aim bot!!!