Reacting to DBZ Abridged Episode 30 Without Watching Dragon Ball Z
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Y’all didn’t get it. In the original Frieza says the planet has 5 minutes left. Then like 10 episodes later it still hadn’t blown up
Supposedly there's a some weird math involved to where it's really is 5 minutes forget where I saw it..maybe film theory not sure
When Frieza said five minutes, he was referring to space minutes, which are much longer than regular minutes.
@@livingcountry6279 They're fighting at such high speeds he was still right. It's just being slowed down to be comprehensible to the audience
I see people are still trying to rationalize with "they were fighting at high speeds." So what? Their talking alone stretched out far longer than that five minutes.
But I suppose you could say it was space minutes, if you use its 2nd name - "filler" minutes.
People try to rationalize it, but it's really just weird pacing issues. This isn't the last instance of it, either - they'll be making fun of another one next season.
TFS does NOT slack when it comes to the big scenes.
The fact they made their own rendition of “Day of Fate” says so damn much, and it’s not like it was bad, or mid or whatever. Instead IT GOES FUCKIN CRAZY JUST CAUSE THEY WANTED IT TO.
Let’s see. For some upcoming moments at the top of my head (as spoiler-free as possible), Future Boy (introduction & History of), that Vegeta scene, twins + redhead, Bugman, Bugman V2, Vegeta vs Bugman V2, Bugman V3, *FINAL FLASH!* (screw it, I’m using the actual name for this one), that Gohan scene, the announcement, the event, Mr. S, the REAL event, the shocking switch up, the scene that uses “Day of Fate”, the definition scene, the big POP scene, the (deadly) return, and that KAMEHAMEHA!!! scene.
3:15 Bro is out here spreading misinformation 💀
Like bro in WHAT WORLD is a transformation taking that long. An entire episode? Two to three? That would be fuckin insane, Such a ridiculous statement
Who would have thought that "I'm going to break you like a Kit-Kat bar" can sound so badass. Also, turning Namekian Super Kami Guru into a lying villain is just bloody hilarious.
How about "I'm gonna deck you in the schnoz!" XD
@@vailingbow1068 or "i´m insane. from earth" with vegeta mumbling "he means saiyan"
@@alexanderzack3720 Haha yeah
No, the Super Saiyan transformation did not take that long. It took about 40 seconds. However, that being said, I would recommend reading the manga. It's much better paced, even comparative to Kai.
I think it was the SS3 transformation that took crazy long. I just remember goku screaming for an incredibly long time in the first SS3 transformation
Yeah, Kaizer from TFS explains his reasoning on making the transformation so quick, in the manga its literally one page
@@ALavaPenguin The SSJ3 transformation was about 5 mins long.
Isn't it like 1-2 minutes long?? Cause 40 seconds seems way too short
@@junglekxngtalksanime From the beginning of the Goku's last line of dialogue to when he transforms is about 40 seconds. 60 if we're generous.
Nono,it was not THIS transformation that made the voice actor almost pass out,it was Super Saiyan 3 in the fusion Reborn Movie,and also the Buu Saga
No, it was super saiyan 4
I remember it was 3.
Might have been both
@@geoffreyboutayeb 3 ALMOST made Sean pass out and 4 made him pass out.
@@QUEReacts czcams.com/video/vk2Ici4gG1Q/video.html&ab_channel=Biggandbetta
No, Goku was a LOT crueler than "be nice and I'll let you go". He saw that Freeza's energy was already running out, just plain lost interest in fighting him, and intended to make him live with the fact that he couldn't defeat an "inferior monkey". But Freeza just didn't know when to fold.
Which really was an idiotic thing as it would just drive Frieza to get revenge on say a planet with no high powered defender if he'd just withdrawn and waited a week for Goku to find some off planet training to distract him. Or logicaly cybernetics better or equal to Gero's or as they retcon/explained trained for once in his life. Really should have just finished him off.
In the manga Goku sounds almost cruel, but in the end he feels bad for having hit Freeza (he thought he killed him with the last energy beam, and you can clearly see his sad expression). It's also pretty clear that he didn't really wanted to make him suffer since when Freeza asks for help, Goku shows anger because he realizes he can't avoid in helping him, even considering how bad Freeza is. Freeza himself was speechless because Goku helped him. He almost thanked him, but since Goku gave him a rough response (but right and understandable considering everything Freeza did), he felt offended and reacted as if he thought to be helpless.
@@krabkrabby I never saw Goku's expression at the end as sad for having killed Frieza. More disappointed that Frieza was so foolish as to throw his life away like that, rather than learn his lesson like all of Goku's past adversaries did.
@@gurvmlk I think it's easier to see that he's sad in the actual manga panels. His hand is depicted as if it was trembling and then his facial expression looks like he didn't wanna do it.
I like your interpretation, I have not thought about it
There’s not a single transformation in dragon ball that takes an entire episode to happen 😭
Not even half an episode.
Idk id argue Gohans transformation to ss2 took quite awhile mainly due to cell having to push him to get there. I'd say that and ss3 is the longest and maybe even the fusions as well.
@@traelstechnologytmalsantua3471 yes but ssj3 was only 3 minutes, Gohan's ssj2 had him snapping and screaming for a few seconds and he transforms. the next episode recounts and expands the transformation to fit a few more minutes but no transformation comes even close to an episode or half an episode.
@@phoebusapollo8365 ss3 took like 10 minutes in dbz
@@ethanyates7943 as I said in my earlier comment, Goku’s first ssj3 transformation took around 3 minutes, 3 minutes and 29 seconds to be exact
ok I know memory is fuzzy and the memes have exagerated the problem a lot but COME ON xD
the transformation does not take one whole episode x)
SSJ 3 yes but that scream is legendary
@painvillegaming4119 ssj3 was literally at most 5 min no where near a full episode
In the manga, the Super Saiyan transformation was just one page.
In the anime it was one episode as well 😭💀 y’all Overexaggerate it lol
The anime added a lot of filler so it didn't overtake the manga.
22:04 even Vegeta was shocked by the Namekians brutality.
They're really overstating some of the transformation times. It's a long fight, and there's some filler, but it's not as bad as they're making it out to be. 20 episodes or so in total once Goku shows up to fight Freeza to the end of the arc.
That's still a roughly 3 hour fight.
@@wingedbluj1674it’s 4 hours and it’s good so idk why there’s complaint new age anime fans be to spoiled imo
@@wingedbluj1674it was the early 90S it took longer to animate
I mean the current One Piece arc is closing in on 200 episodes. DBZ from the start through Freeza was just over 100.
it's the longest fight in anime history which isn't a bad thing but also yeah, transformations have never taken more than 1 episode
The thing with all of these "This power up took multiple episodes! That scream lasted an entire episode!" comments, is that you need to remember these are memories from when people were watching the episodes weekly. Things blend together. When you actually look at the times listed for events or battles, you can see they're actually FAR shorter than people say.
Or, in the cases where the episode length WAS that long, you'd see that the episode had other things cutting into it. Reactions/dialogue from other characters. Separate cut away scenes. Etc.
That's not to say there weren't any episodes that dragged on WAY too long. There was definitely some bad pacing in the original release because they were caught up with the manga and had to drag things out.
Heck, I remember hating the fight with Frieza when I first watched it because of the perspective of it being on TV. Despite that being on Toonami, which aired five episodes a week, the battle dragged (as in from the very start with Frieza in his first form) for so long that by time it was over several weeks later, I was sick of it. Watching it on DVD though, where I could binge watch the entire fight in just a few days, I found it to be a lot more enjoyable.
Uh yeah I think you guys are mixing up transformations. When Goku turned super Saiyan for the first time it was quick and at the end of the episode. You guys are thinking Super Saiyan 3 during the Buu arc. Thats the one thats a whole episode.
Or Trunk's going ultra super Saiyan.
Even that transformation was only 5 minutes, and it’s still the longest transformation in the franchise.
Ssj3 was only 5 min at most
Nah, both of those are long, but they weren’t full episode long. I think the issue is Frieza powering up to 100%. THAT shit had like an entire clip show involved, it was insane.
Also heads up pay VARY close attention to Vegeta’s new shirt in the next few episodes it’s really important
A lot of people miss this joke, but in an earlier episode, Freeza questioned how in the world Guru was so fat when Namekians only consumed water. Well, now you know - he drank ALL the water!
23:38 he’s a little more than naïve Goku is a certified HIMBO
IT'S TIME and all 3 parts let's go dbza super saiyan goku vs full power frieza is a perfect blend of humor and seriousness
Goku's Speech in the english dub: "You can destroy planets but you can never destroy what I am, friend. I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth." *powers up* "Ally to good! Nightmare to you!"
Goku's Speech in the original Japanese: "You can destroy planets but seems like you can't destroy a single human. You already know, don't you? I am a Saiya-jin who came from Earth in order to defeat you. The legendary warrior whose calm heart was awakened by violent rage." *powers up* "The Super Saiya-jin, SON GOKU!!!"
Cringe ass dialogue 💀
One of the main reasons why I prefer sub over dub right there.
Wait, I thought the dubbed version ended similarly to the subbed version.
DBZ Kai's speech was more accurate to the manga and to Goku as a character
23:25 that was at the end when frieza was sliced and dying in the spot, however at that moment Goku was humiliating him and telling him that he is not worth fighting him anymore, as in "you're not in my level". So he just disrespects him and leaves.
Ruff has a very warped memory of the show (which is understandable, it's super long)
The reason that episodes took so long at this point was that the anime had caught up with the manga so they had to spread a couple of pages across half an hour.
And Toei are just the best at extending scenes that're a page or even a panel or 2 into like 3 minutes XD
22:05 - Even Vegeta is shocked by what the Namekians are doing to Guru
I always love the Revenge of the Sith homage post credit scene... a shame youtube made them cut it.
Completely forgot about that until just now. Yes, that stinks. That scene was great
At least it can still be found on CZcams 🤷🏾♂️
Okay either you guys ARE exaggerating, or you're misremembering. The original SSJ transformation took like, 3 or 4 minutes, not one or two episodes. I'm all for pointing out the absurd pacing of the original DBZ but we don't need to lie lmao
Seems to be thinking of SSJ3 instead.
@@HenrythePaleoGuy even that doesn't take an entire episode
The whole "x Minutes !" part of this...
In DBZ, Freeza says "only 5 Minutes left" and after that, it took 53 minutes of playtime until Namec exploded ^^
9 episodes. it was NINE episodes from when freeza blasted namek until the planet explodes
I knew you guys would crack up at 28:42, and I was not disappointed lmao
I'm so thankful you guys did all 3 parts in one episode, and did two dbza videos this week! Thanks boys
Strap yourself for the greatest arc of dbz spinoffs ever produced
@@TsukiRaiki couldn't put it better myself!
goku is naive but he accomplished his task and broke frieza by humiliating him as much as possible and at that point friezas energy was dropping while gokus was rising so it wasn't even a fight anymore.
Just so you guys know, there was a scene cut out after the credits where frieza is still alive and gets saved by his father, and he becomes mecha frieza the reason it got cut out was because it used the revenge of the sith music for when anakin turns into darth vader.
I love that you guys uploaded the whole 3 parts and it's not even the weekend!!
there's so much you miss without the context of the original series, literally multiple layers of reference and contextual jokes that make no sense without the DBZ Dub.
they will tell you themselves do NOT watch their series first because they make a lot of story beats assuming the audience knows where it's going next.
You guys are thinking of Super Saiyan 3 for the long transformation. This one wasn't that long.
It's not that Goku was "strong enough" to deny the dragon - he simply asked not to be brought back. They don't get into the reason in Abridged, but it's because he's training to control the Super Saiyan transformation (and probably also busy learning Instant Transmission). It may not have been obvious, but the Super Saiyan transformation is a berserker state. It's fueled by rage. Goku was fighting quite hard to keep control while using it, so before coming home, he wanted to get to the point where he could use it easily, without any fear of losing control and hurting his own friends and family.
It's really frustrating seeing them tell each other misinformation that they're not sure about as someone who just finished watching Dragonball Z Kai. It's fun watching these vids but I feel like u guys should just show each other the actual scenes in the video when you're not sure about something. Like watching short comparison vids after the Abridged episode ends before sharing what you thought about the episode idk. I'm not hate watching or anything I'm just giving some critism.
Stuff like saying that the Super Saiyan took 1-2 episodes to happen and Goku's VA passing out were misinformation. Goku's VA passed out in the buu Saga during the super saiyan 3 scene. And Super Saiyan only took 1 episode
After this, I hope you guys have done Kai 1 and 2 as well. 19:25 I always forget this line but I love it. I also love “I think I peed a little.” And “Daddy I don’t want to be on Namek anymore.”
reading the manga is the way, I agree.
Would kai be the anime to watch then as it has the better pacing or the z run
Goku's Super Sayajin Speech is a Reference to Darkwing Duck.
Avatar and DBZA on the same day? now that´s a Birthday gift
Happy Birthday!
The speech yes like hman said was altered. In the original it is better because goku accepts his heritage as a saiyan and the dub went more super hero which was epic but unfitting for goku and his character arc.
Here is the versions of the speech from the non abridged versions of the series.. Judge for yourself which you prefer
Original DUB Goku: “You can destroy planets but you can never destroy what I am, friend.”
Frieza: “What…What are you?”
Goku: “I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth” (Goku powers up and stops using his indoor voice) “Ally to good! Nightmare to you!”
Original JP Goku: "You can destroy planets but seems like you can’t destroy a single human"
Frieza: “What…What are you?”
Goku: “You already know don’t you? I am a Saiyan who came from earth in order to defeat you, The legendary warrior whose calm heart was awaked by violent rage, The Super Saiyan Son Goku!!!!”
and just to clarify.. in the original version of the Anime, After Frieza said the planet would blow up in 5 minutes.. it blew up around 5-6 episodes later... leading to many jokes about how time seems to flow differently or Frieza doesn't understand how long a minute is
Also.. Sean Schemmel the V.A for Goku Passed out doing the Transformation for Super Saiyen 4 in Dragon Ball GT, According to him he was exhausted before hand and he underestimated how draining it was going to be on him
And ya.. The fight With Frieza is just.. .overall Stupidly long, Even Kai with cutting out scenes the fight between Goku and Frieza is still 10 episodes long
-Goku could reject to return because he is stronger than the dragon's creator.
-Nappa didn' resurrected because dragons cant resurrect people who has been dead more than one year
You guys were off about what Frieza says the first time Goku leaves. Goku said that the fight was over, that there was no need to continue. Said Frieza wasn’t strong enough to win. That pissed off Frieza and he throws the disk. When Frieza is cut in half, Goku gives him the spare energy to live and Frieza did beg for that, but not how you guys said. It was when he was dying and cut in half. Then Frieza is revived with the power Goku gives him, then gets pissed off that Goku is treating him like he’s nothing and no one. Then Frieza attacks and Goku kills him
Idk about the original Japanese voice actor but Sean Schemmel passed out doing the scream for the SS3 transformation. 4:04
Really can’t stand the constant misinformation and false memories being passed off as knowledge of the original series
Been waiting for this
There's no transformation that takes an episode, i think this is a case of memes and slander influencing peoples memory of the show
Super Saiyan transformation lasted about 40 seconds, it's the SS 3 transformation that took a bit, and not even that long, the first SSJ3 transformation took about five minutes.
Erik's genuinely interested and seemingly enjoying the watch and everyone else is constantly talking about how the original show did it. Poor guy lol.
23:31 Hm, pretty sure you're confusing Freeza with Radditz. Goku let him go because he was clearly going to win, wanted to get out before planet exploded, and told Freeza that he would have to live with shame of knowing he was defeated by a Saiyan. Freeza only started to beg after he got cut in half, and Goku didn't ask him to promise to not kill anyone. He was furious, asking how he dared to ask for pity after killing so many people, but as Freeza continued to beg he gave in and saved his life.
Ruff’s gotta remember that all his knowledge comes from the OG Funi dub where they changed a whole bunch of characterization
Fun fact: the fight between Goku and Frieza is the longest in anime history
As a child I had to run home just to watch these episodes. It took months. Just to see these
Sean Shemmel (voice of Goku) passing out due to long screaming was when Goku went Super Sayian 3 in the original animation.
It's funny that when Goku was telling Gohan to leave, he just told Gohan to take Piccolo and leave. He didn't mention Bulma, LOL.
I've watched DBZA so many times and I just realized the voice actor for Porunga is Alucard
YES read the manga, it’s so good. Especially OG dragonball, the anime is really old and low quality but the og dragonball manga is good as fuck
I think the reason they couldn’t wish Goku to earth was because each dragon has its limits like Shenron couldn’t bring back a person who has died twice, of natural causes, and it has to be within a certain time frame I think. The namekian dragon can’t teleport someone who doesn’t want to be teleported i think either Thank or or goes back to the restrictions that the wish can not exceed the creators power goku having ssj would put him above the porungas creators strength so maybe he just pressed decline and continued training 💀
10:35 , Thinking way too deep into it : space IS chock full of "free gasses".. like gravitationally unbound by large objects. SO, did Freeza really mean "breath in space" like actually breath-ING, .... maybe he can absorb gases through his body... like a kind of solid/gas type of osmosis....? Either that or he just creates his own gravitational field and pulls the gasses close enough together to really breath them...? Or maybe it's just a cartoon and i should put the bowl down. lol
“When there’s no more room in Hell, VAGETA SHAL WALK THE-…….other Hell, what the Hell?”
The original show is very entertaining and the Manga is fantastic. I recommend both.
NOW, some curiosity about the original manga/anime:
Dragonball is a parody of the book Sayiuki (or "travel to the west", I'm not sure how the English title is), and I'm not referring to the manga called "Sayiuki" (which is another interpretation of the same story, btw).
In the original book Son Goku (Sun Wu Kong I think it's the original chinese name), it's something like a magic creature with the look of a monkey. That's why Goku become a giant monkey monster in DB.
Also Akira Toryiama (the original mangaka), said that he took inspiration by Superman and Hulk (and some other American comics) to create his story (that's why Goku looses control as a super sayan, and that's also why he's an alien who went on earth as a child after his planet exploded).
Akira Toryiama intended to create a funny shonen but with comic traits, that's why it has so many weird and funny stuff in it. Basically it's not a serious manga, it's a parody of many genres, but it's so well done that people took it seriously and so Toryiama started to write in a more serious way in Dbz (and still you can see stuff like Genew force...). He also said he created Freeza thinking about a mix between his editor, and a company man, or something. XD
No, the transformation took few seconds, and one or 2 pages in the manga. Goku isn't a bad father in the original, he's just very focused on his tasks of both being super strong to protect the earth and to fight other warriors.
That's because sayan people feel the need to fight as a natural instinct. Just remember that they're not humans, they're like werewolves.
Gohan doesn't really like to fight because he's half-blood.
Goku is also very intelligent and smart, he's just naive. He's the greatest martial artist existent since he's able to remember, comprehend and imitate any technique he sees, and he's also able to create new techniques.
He is a great problem solver and he's a pure heart, 100% good, even in his baddest moment (in fact he's able to run the flying nimbus, which can be only used by very good souls).
You must consider that Super sayan form is exactly like Hulk for Banner.
The fact he's able to keep control and feeling bad for Freeza and helping him, is a demonstration of how good he really is.
Goku in the manga (and in the anime) felt sincerely sorry for Freeza.
Also differently by Vegeta, Freezer is more sensitive to Goku's words. Basically they spend just an afternoon together, but Freeza starts to feel ashamed by his actions after Goku talked to him in super sayan form (thought he didn't admitted it). Freeza, in fact, starts to justify himself, pointing out that even sayan were very bad people and probably more dangerous than him.
In the end, Freeza says something like: ".. I didn't expected you would have really given your energy to me..." then Goku gives a rough (but right) response to him which clearly hit Freeza's feelings, who instantly changes his attitudes. He clearly never experienced all of that and he wasn't able to manage the situation in the logical way.
When Goku says "I'll survive", Freeza thinks "I'll survive too, so I must to kill you..." as if he can't see another way, but he looks very hurt.
After Goku defeats him, he stares for few seconds with a sad expression.
And there you realize Goku and Freeza really had a moment, and you also realize how much mercifully Goku is.
Btw, considering how strong this scene was (specially in the manga), Freeza's death because of Trunks hands, is a bit disappointing, even if you think about karma for Vegeta.
The 2 1-ups frieza got from comboing krillin are how he survives the spirit bomb and finap goku attack
Hope you do the DBZ Kai Abridged quick season recaps before starting the next, they basically abridged the abridged.
Can you call Goku naive when all his best friends are people he spared after they tried killing him? Bulma tried murdering him in five minutes into OG DB.
In fairness this was the first time it didn't work. But I am not watching Super, so has it kinda worked in the long run?
oh yeah Goku friends everyone that's tried killing him in Super except Frieza.
Krillin got puff puff passed
You gus missed the picture og stuffed crust pizza in Goku's eyes when frieza mentioned giving him stuffed crust pizza
21:10 Is this from FMA?
No its frikking Lacrimosa by Mozart
The original transformstion is only 1 min and 22 seconds real time. The longest transformation is 8 mins. But its the fights that take forever and the gathering energy for the spirit bomb
If you zoom in on Goku's eyes when he talks about stuff crust, you can see the pizza
Ever since I've watched these for the first time in these videos, I can't stop hearing or saying Naaaaaaail 😂😂😂
21:05 Lacrimosa from Mozart's Requiem, one of the most beautiful and famous peace of music ever.... "Is this from Full Metal?"😅
23:25 It might be naive but that was one of the lessons Goku learned in og dragon ball. He wanted to kill somebody evil to stop him from causing evil again but one friend of his convinced him not to do it so from then on he was more *naive* or whatever you want to call it. It's not just randomly that he lets every one go, he had to learn that in dragon ball because he was prepared to kill at the age of 10-12
He was Not just ready to kill, he actually did kill, a lot. Remember Red Ribbon HQ for example?
They are greatly exaggerating the time it takes for stuff to happen in DBZ. Goku turns Super Saiyan in episode 95 and the arc is over after episode 107. The whole series is only 291 episodes. For comparison that's about the middle of the Enies Lobby arc for One Piece.
Btw, Frieza’s ship having a Muffin Button actually makes sense. The ship Goku took to Namek reused the tech from the Saiyan pod Goku came to Earth in, and Dr. Briefs didn’t install the button. So obviously that tech came from the Saiyan pod
19:30 that other planet getting blown up was an edit/add on
the frieza saga officially starts when goku arrives to fight him.. it was a full saga of episode of just goku vs frieza, 30 episodes
So hyped when I realized all 3 are in one!
They mentioned that Killin is dead for good, what they don't know is that technically by the way the dragon balls on earth work, he might as well be.
it took goku like a minute to go ssj for the first time I regularly watch it when I'm drunk. it was just at the end of an episode.
i do love teh DBZA "i'm going to break you like a kit-kat bar !~" lol.
Wait.... it's not Saturday why is this up?
Not complaining, just perplexed
Anyone else catch the stuffed crust in goku eyes as goku is saying ( stuff crust king kai ) 😅
Can't wait for you all to react to the Android and Cell sagas
YES. Now the best seasone is left to watch
you are thinking about the super saiyan 3 transformation that took forever and Sean passed out doing that scream.
Eric (lower left hand corner) reminds me of Joe Gatto from Impractical Jokers lol 😆 😂 🤣
Okay, you have now reached season 3, the funniest thing online right now.
I appreciate you showing the original subs. I know it's not what you saw, but it's not as distracting for us who dislike them.
Boom would 100% love og dragon ball
Just a heads up there should be an extra short tfs video about Frieza after namek exploded.
The transformation didn't take an entire episode, but the episode ended when he just finish transforming, then you have to wait another week to see it.
Talk about exagerating Goku's transformation in the original run, it wasn't that long, I think one minute was all it took.
Damn the Dr Seuss Baking Challenge got really intense there
Everything about the screaming part was overly exaggerated. It does NOT take that long. But the manga is actually incredible and an awesome reading experience definitely recommend
'when you fire this thing in space, you're ruining Someone's day, Somewhere, Somewhen.'
It wasn’t even a minute for him to transform lol the fight is what too multiple episodes
I think the Transformation that took like an whole episode and where the voice actor almost passed out was super Saiyan three
Omg, an ad immediately cut into 19:02 when freeza’s ball hit wtf
The longest transformation is probably ssj3 which is only 5 minutes.