How Voigtländer's 35mm f1.5 Nokton Vintage Lens Changed The Game
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2022
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When it comes Leica 35mm lenses, the all new Voigtländer Nokton 35mm f1.5 vintage line is an affordable double sides double aspherical lens that could end up being the surprise hit of the year for Leica users. Check out my review to find out more.
Special thanks to RIceball Photography for providing the lens for review.
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Bobby has been rocking some awesome reviews lately! Great job bro!
Thank you 🙏
You just do a great job on these lens reviews. Thx!
Thank you 🙏
the review is already damn good but your voice & excitedness with the lens made the video even better !!!
Thank you Chris 🙏
Really happy with Voigtlander lately. The 28mm f2 and 50mm 1.2 are stellar lenses and I could not be happier with those 2 lenses. For 35mm i'll be sticking with my FLE (not the newest one but the one the new one replaced), all time favorite lens. Keep up the great work Voigtlander.
Thanks for watching. Much appreciated
First thing I really noticed is how much more the Summilux seems to draw a sharper line of delineation between the zone of focus where your head is, and the background, probably accounting for that "pop" we so often hear about. Mind you, it's also sharper. But the Nokton certainly does fine. (I'd have loved to have seen how the Zeiss Distagon T* 35mm f/1.4 ZM did in this competition.)
Of course, we've hit that point now where all these lenses are so good, that at the end of the day what really distinguishes an image is its content, as opposed to a few percentage points of technical differentiation.
Agree 💯. We are splitting hairs at this point
I have just tested this new Voigtlander 35 mm f 1.5 in its V. 2 (aluminum) against the Summicron 35 K. of Bokeh, Summicron 35 ASPH. (V. 1), TTartisan 35 MM f1.4, Voigt 35 mm f 1.2 V.III, and Voigt 35 mm Lanthar (f.2).
The results are (all 35 mm lenses were tested at f2 focusing on the center and looking at the corners seen at 200% and 300%) :
1-Voigt Lanthar,
2-Voigt f 1.5,
3-Voigt f 1.2 V. III, (f 1.5 and f. 1.2 lenses are close though, the plus of the f 1.5 (and probably its raison d'être) is its compactness)
4-Summicron ASPH (close though),
5-Summicron Bokeh (slightly softer in the corners but sort of holding on in spite of its age),
6-TTartisan (very soft corners).
Even at f. 1.5 and with its compactness this lens competes with the Summicron ASPH at f. 2. Great lens!! My only regret is that Voigtlander removed the small physical red dot/dome on the lens itself which was present on the previous lenses (replaced by a red dot on the mounting ring and "35" engraved on the lens where the red dot used to be).
Good test
Seriously considering this Bobby. Love the channel btw. Cheers
Thanks Collin for the kind words
Thanks for the nice and interesting review. I really like the Voigtlander glass, especially their Nokton and Apo Lanthar line-ups. With the Noktons they seem to go a bit more for the classic look, and with the Apo's more modern. They give these rich saturated colours, which few other lenses render in the same way. I have the older 35mm f1.2 Nokton which I use on the Leica CL and Sony A7iv, which has always been amazing. I am sure this newer version will be even better. Would be interesting to see how it compares to the 35mm f2 Apo Lanthar, which didn't fully win me over (the 50mm f2 Apo Lanthar is awesome, and so is the 65mm f2 macro Apo Lanthar for E-mount).
Yes would be great to do a comparison in the future. Thanks for watching
I wish they’d put a focus tab on the 50 f1.5. Excellent review of a great lens
Thanks for watching
I got the type I and it is impressive with its size, weight and price
Hey Bobby, thanks again for an amazing review! I know you reviewed previously the CV Ultron 35mm f2. How do you think this lens compares to it besides the apparent f1.5 vs f2? Thanks!
Thanks for watching. The build quality is much better, the double sided double aspherical lens elements really shine in this. The sharpness, well controlled flaring and overall look is great
Thanks for the great review Bobby. Considering between this lens and the Light Lens Lab f2 8 element. Which one would be your recommendation? thank you!
This if you want sharper photos that have more modern rendering. The LLL is a great lens but you need to deal with vignetting and softer images at f2
Allready ordered, hope to get it next week. I hope you are right :-)
You will be impressed :)
Curious, at 5:30 you have the aperture between f1.5 and f2. I've read there is no half stop between f1.5 and f2... or is there?
It does stop between.
@@btonelli Oh wow, thank you so much for confirming that!
Great lens. What I am really waiting for from Voigtlander is a lens with short focus distance… That would mean I can use M for more purposes without spending 7K euros on the 35 apo…
This can do .5 meters
This is probably a noob question but I'm curious - many reviews claim that the M mount lenses don't fully resolve the sensors on mirrorless cameras (especially towards the edges) because the filter stack on the surface of the sensor is much thicker than the one on the M sensors. Leica M sensors have specially designed conical micro-lenses on the sensor to maximise performance from rangefinder lenses? Which is why they often find differences in rendering from M cameras to Canon/ Sony/ Nikon etc? So I'm wondering if the true optical quality would be revealed on an M body?
For the most part the nuances are minor. The edges can be slightly soft depending but from my experience I didn’t find much difference. Some may disagree on this, and while the Leica SL range is designed more so than others to resolve M lenses to their true potential, the lack of using these lenses on leica bodies doesn’t take away from the overall look
One thing nobody normally addresses is the lack of QC on Leica cameras & lenses, very obvious after reading some of the problems a lot of photographers have had both with the M11 and the 35 lux fle v2.
If you want a rangefinder camera, Leica is the only way to go and you have to deal with the risk of a faulty unit, but regarding lenses Voigtlander is becoming a dead serious alternative to the super expensive leica glass. This 35 1.5 looks promising and confirms that Cosina knows how to do beautiful lenses (like for instance the 75mm 1.5, the 50mm 1.2 or the apo series).
Leica has had a few issues but compared to other manufacturers it’s not that bad, but understand some who are hesitant.
Voigtlander has really done a great job with this lens and I have no skin in the game. It really impressed me
@@btonelli Tony, I have had sonys and fujis and never experienced an issue. Also have a gorgeous M-A film Leica and the first unit was wrong. Now I've been trying to decide if an M11 is a good idea, but there are some serious problems going on (freezing units, bad electronics), and the same could be said with the new fle. That of course makes me hesitate even if I still consider the brand la creme de la creme.
@@btonelli Thanks for the review . I have the BP version coming Monday for my BP M4 . A Leica BP version would be way out of my range .
@@absonus congrats!! Will look beautiful on the M4
@@btonelli Used to own almost new M9 with 6 Leica lenses (all purchased together with the M9), and after few years of use, all of them with the exception of Summilux-M 75/1.4 needed some sort of maintenance or repair... loosening lubricants, lots of dust getting inside (but not inside my other lenses from other brands), factory rf calibration issues, then the faulty-rusting sensor, issues reading many SD cards, occasional camera freezes, loose screws falling off... and turnaround times for Leica factory repairs are extremely long. Now I own 7 M-mount lenses, 2 of them Chinese (7A, TTa) and 5 Voigtlanders, all purchased new, previously also owned a few Zeiss ZM lenses, and neither of them has given me any problem... the factory calibration of all those Voigtlanders was perfect, lubricants work perfect after 6 years of continuous use is warm and cold, almost no dust inside, everything holding tight...
So I'm very happy I can pick lenses that are much more reliable in my experience... if only I can also pick a non-Leica M-mount rangefinder body with quiet shutter too :). The IQ of the non-Leica lenses is so close that in the real-world I do not see a difference for my work; and actually I prefer character of some non-Leica lenses more (CV 25/4 against Elmarit 24, CV 28/2 against Cron 28 Asph, CV 50/1.5 II against Lux 50 Asph, ZM Planar 50/2 against Cron 50, 7A 75/1.25 against Lux 75/1.4...).
So, same as @Fede, I have absolutely no trust in Leica craftsmanship and QC - it's mostly old film Leicas what was reliable, but even those were seriously over-engineered and therefore prone to failures (comparatively to other cameras).. and there were issues always, such as the tragic paint quality on some M6 or M7, can't remember exactly... or the lubricants, or fogging of vintage lenses (comparatively massively worse than Nikkors or Rokkors of the same vintage).
I do love Leica because it still gives me the rangefinder experience, I love the brand heritage, but I've never had 1/10th of the Leica-related problems with gear from other manufacturers... and I went through endless Nikons and a few Canons over the past decades, and currently also have a pretty big collection of Fuji X-mount gear (1 problem - SD+battery door spring issue on X-E2 after 5 years of use; 1 lens problem - lots of dust inside XF 18/2 after 6 years of use) and Sony mirrorless (1 problem with loose lens mount on new A7, immediate swap).
One day. One day I’ll get my hands on my own M-mount camera system. No time soon, though.
In time. Always some good second hand deals out there
@@btonelli Sure - lots going second-hand. It's all relative, though.
@@jameslenney indeed
Nice vid! Would you please briefly explain how the close focus mechanically functions? A minimum focus distance closer than 0.7m is typically a huge turnoff for me on M bodies because I don't want to slip past rangefinger range and generally hate using Live View.
Thanks for watching! When your using it with the typical optical viewfinder it’s .7, when you go live view it’s .5. I’ve amended the video to clarify that a bit just now.
@@btonelli Sounds like this is a great lens for my film MP, compact, black paint and affordable. If minimum focus distance isn't an issue, I think I would order one. Thanks for the video!
@@chenyang5448 thanks for watching. Will pair nicely to the Black MP
@@btonelli got it. So I'm taking away that there are no hard stops, or even cues a la the M 35 Apo.
@@astrostl because I don’t have a 35 APO on hand I can’t answer that 100%. Let me try it tomorrow with a couple of Digital M bodies from Riceball and let you know
I really like the black type II. That being said, i cant decide if it would clash or compliment my SL2-S Reporter. I've seen the version I in person and although it has a matte finish it looks a little too flat.
The reporter is all matte so it would prob look good. If it’s too glossy it will stand out
Voigtlander should make some autofocus lens. I mean I really love Voigtlander, they are made by Cosina, the manufacturer of the Zeiss Otus lens.
Would be nice if they did. Hopefully soon
Yes and no. More options is always good, so I certainly encourage that. But I quite like their niche of manual lenses and how well they do it. The lenses are beautiful, they handle fantastically. For me it's the perfect intersection between modern cameras and manual glass with character (and the slower shooting experience that goes with it), while having capacity to render sufficiently for high resolution sensors. So I quite like them the way they are, and therefore own a few of them. If they become AF, then they need to meet other metrics and compete with many more AF lenses already on offer which may be more difficult. But I am just a hobbyist. Maybe for pro's, where speed and output matters more, AF is desired.
@@Edwin-- valid points as well
Not going to lie, the AF lens experience just isn’t the same. Different tools for different jobs, as someone that shoots for a living, they each have their own use cases. I like where their lenses sit within the overall market.
Auto focus will also raise the price. 👍🏼👍🏼
this looks like a nice daily alternative to my black paint summicron 35 ASPh
Yes especially since that’s a stunning lens and don’t want to have any harm come to it :)
@@btonelli exactly, so far i have managed to keep it pretty minty but it would be nice to have a daily rocker
Hey there, I hope you can help me, I can't find the info anywhere. For a M6, what finish would be more appropriate, type 1 or 2 ?
Aluminium black (Type 1 I believe) would match or the silver color if you have a chrome M6
@@btonelli brilliant thanks Bobby
Which lens u think has the better sharpness, Ultron 35/2 or this 35/1.5 thx. Im really hesitant about buying one of these lens
35 1.5 is sharper I feel. But can also consider the 35 APO
Thanks for review :)
I think i like 35 1.4 vc/mc than this lens.
Thanks for watching. I thought o would prefer that as well but found myself liking this more
Don't understand why they don't make them for the l-mount. Would be a nice match for the Sigma fp.
Hmm perhaps in the future? However easy to get a M to L adapter and use it that way as well
Hi Bobby, I think you made a mistake. On the leica m mount the focus distance is 0.5 mtrs… At least when see images of the lens that are available sofar. 😅
It’s a bit confusing the way Voigtlander writes it. When you go to Voigtlanders website they say .5 on mirrorless and on the OVF .7. That’s how I understood it. Similar to leica
I hope they will deliver a 28mm F1.4 soon...............
Same
Do you have a link for this lens?
Check in my description.
PS: You always wear beautiful watches, maybe you should consider reviewing some at times!!!
Thanks. Perhaps in the future :)
how does the 35mm f1.5 compare to 35mm 2.0 ultron ?
The 1.5 I feel is better
First! Hello bobby!
Hi!
How much is it
@@ezekielkok1848 around 1100 SGD
How does it compare to zeiss 35 f1.4 zm, for the price range, it still make me want to get the zeiss 35mm f1.4 len.😂
The voigtlander is very close to the Zeiss in performance and also much smaller. I would opt for the Voigtlander
just a constructive suggestion... there is a lot of echo/room on your voice, try and treat the room with acoustic panels
Yes that’s in the works :)
The lens looks nice, but I would like to see the difference between the Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 and the Canon 35mm f1.5 ltm. Also there was no info/ tests regarding the distorsion factor. The construction difference between the Canon 35mm f1.5 ltm and the Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 is that the Voigtlander has 9 elements with 2 aspherical ones and the Canon has 8 elements. I was curious how much that influences the distorsion of each lens. The cat eye bokeh gives a good idea about the distorsion, but overall I would say this ia a mediocre review. It would be nice to know a little bit info on the differences between the Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 I and the Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 II. Currently only Voightlander and Canon make a 35mm lens with f1.5 . That is the only game changer: the fact that Voigtlander added a new lens in the 35mm f1.5 lens market. Basically now the consumer has more options and is not limited to the way overpriced Canon 35mm f1.5 ltm lenses on ebay.
Hi Vasi. The only difference from type 1 and type II is the material used for the body of the lenses.
As for the Canon 35mm f1.5 ltm, I didn’t have access to that lens for comparison.
The obvious comparison will be the 35 summilux hence that’s why I compared that vs anything else.
Better than the 35mm Distagon from Zeiss?
I feel so
Nope, the Distagon will stay as the best 35mm f1.4 you can get for your Leica (optics). But the new Nokton is amazing I had it for a couple of days and I can say that I would pick it over the Distagon (had the lens for three years). Still, I did send it back and only use my beloved 35mm f1.4 Nokton MC Version I because of the unique rendering. :-)
As a film-only photographer, do you recommend this lens? I mainly shoot the 35mm summicron asph (35mm focal length being my favorite). I bought and returned the steel rim-respectfully, that lens is utter garbage. This has been peaking my interest but haven’t seen anyone shooting it on film (I’m assuming it would be just as amazing)
It’s a good lens for film. Sharp enough wide open but nice fall off and bokeh. Definitely better than the steel rim I feel
@@btonelli awesome! I’m doing it! Looks very similar to the summicron but faster. I’m excited. First voitglander 😎
@@DecentGatsby enjoy! It’s one of their better lenses
Vintage refers to the look of the lens barrel not the optics. Double aspherical is a modern lens design.
Yes. My usage of it was the way it renders the bokeh
The typ1 aluminum anodized version is single coated. The type 2 brass black and silver paint versions are multi coated.
Heard this may change. Typ 1 delayed as of now. Nothing mentioned on voigtlanders site about that
Sorry you're wrong here, type 1 and type 2 have the same coating & formula just the barrel is different, light aluminium mat black paint for V1 (matching M11) versus heavier brass build shinny black paint for the V2 matching the 28mm
@@damienphotographe this is what I was told as well