Diesel - RWS Research #2 (Who Diesel Do You Think You Are)

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2021
  • The first and main part of my Diesel Research.
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Komentáře • 275

  • @bow-tiedengineer4453
    @bow-tiedengineer4453 Před rokem +19

    I love how it just happened to work out that the real locomotive most likely to be the actual Diesel just so happened to end up visiting the Bluebell for a while. It feels like the sort of thing that would be a plot contrivance for a fan story.

  • @dannynguyen2382
    @dannynguyen2382 Před 2 lety +119

    wow, the story of the real diesel is really interesting! it's ironic that he ended up shunting at the bluebell railway.

  • @ElNeroDiablo
    @ElNeroDiablo Před rokem +34

    Came over from Unlucky Tugs' video about more real engines in Thomas, and this was one hecking good dive in to narrowing down just what number Diesel wore IRL.

  • @carlmatthews8338
    @carlmatthews8338 Před 2 lety +96

    This series is amazing and it only has two episodes. It's great to hear Diesels alive. Almost makes up for the disappointment of Jinty dying. But keep up the amazing work. Your a real RWS Detective.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +6

      Thank you 🙂

    • @Thebreakingbadthomasfan23
      @Thebreakingbadthomasfan23 Před 2 lety +6

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 you get a new sub

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +5

      Thank you!

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +4

      Interesting that Diesel worked around Hull; my Dad comes from Hull and is similar age to Diesel. In my head canon Jinty was bought by the NWR in 1964 to assist with building Arlesburgh harbour and restoring the disused railway before replacing Duck as Tidmouth pilot. Amazing you managed to narrow Diesel down from nearly 1000 Class 08 locomotives to just 1!

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks :)

  • @shikishinobi
    @shikishinobi Před 2 lety +27

    My jaw is on the floor. That is amazing. Very in-depth and well explained, and well presented. So exploring your channel now.

  • @kekofsodor4899
    @kekofsodor4899 Před 2 lety +20

    Wow, I just got done watching your video on Jinty and now this, excellent research and breakdown. Imagine Diesel and Stepney getting on with each other during his time at the Bluebell Railway. I'd figure much like how Gordon was pompous when he was new and later grew from his mistakes, Diesel likely would have grown as well from his early years. Being one of the 3 remaining 08s left in service, getting moved around, fearing he'd be scrapped himself, I think would have built character on him. Pairing him up with Stepney as a character would also make for an interesting story. Stepney is a famous steam engine, he's a bigshot and people flock to the Bluebell railway to visit him. He's good friends with Duck who Diesel slandered when he arrived to Sodor, and he and Duck both had their experience with D261 before.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks, all really good and interesting points! By the way, there were more than three 08s left in service, just at the time of Thomas and the Evil Diesel there were only three possibilities for Diesel with the correct build features. Many had been withdrawn though!

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 Před 2 lety +2

      There are currently 100 Class 08s in Service and 82 in preservation, Not 3 in service and 1 in preservation, Some of the 100 used to be preserved before being sold back to Train Operating Companies

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes

  • @jacobsumner8111
    @jacobsumner8111 Před 2 lety +23

    Amazing how much effort you put into such a minor character (In the RWS at least). Love this video!

  • @FullArcher05
    @FullArcher05 Před 2 lety +3

    Knowing all of this completes Diesel’s arc from a manipulative bastard to a changed man.

  • @oskarkarcz6842
    @oskarkarcz6842 Před rokem +6

    You were mentioned in Unlucky Tug’s video - congrats!

  • @patriciolei9193
    @patriciolei9193 Před rokem +5

    This video is absolutely underrated, I mean no fans had done something mind blowing

  • @West_Coast_Gang
    @West_Coast_Gang Před 2 lety +4

    Class 08s are popular as hell and you got 1 out of all those

  • @LMS5935
    @LMS5935 Před 2 lety +10

    I'm so glad diesel isn't dead even if he was the one who said lies about the engines he tried the change by the 80s someone needs to make a backstory that matches this

  • @FlyingScotFilms
    @FlyingScotFilms Před 2 lety +6

    I have absolutely no reason to love this video as much as I do, but you put the work in and it paid off.
    You sir, have earned yourself a subscrible

  • @isaacc8039
    @isaacc8039 Před 2 lety +9

    Hey dude, I love this, as a fellow RWS purist, I’m happy people are doing clever & creative things with the series, I have a request for this series, Duck, in the IOS Book it’s heavily implied that the number he wears on Sodor wasn’t his real number, I would love to see an episode where you try to figure out whether he is the real 5741, Anyways I hope this series continues, bye

    • @Tellitonreddit.
      @Tellitonreddit. Před 2 lety +2

      He isn’t the real 5741 worked in Wales for it’s entire life Duck worked in Paddington

    • @isaacc8039
      @isaacc8039 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Tellitonreddit. oh, thanks for the info

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      Hi, Duck is an upcoming one 🙂

  • @Lucat_Here
    @Lucat_Here Před 2 lety +10

    Great to see this continue its cool to see how u narrowed everything down also cool that he survives to this day and even went to the blue bell railway

  • @porneliushubertsthaicuisin1316

    This is so good, there must be so much reserch put into it. Geneus!

  • @FlyingThistleStudios
    @FlyingThistleStudios Před rokem +3

    I love how much thought you put in through this video. Much respect bro

  • @NewController01
    @NewController01 Před rokem +1

    Fascinating work here

  • @D.O.T.D.
    @D.O.T.D. Před rokem +3

    Ok, but thinking of the interactions between Diesel and Stepney would be really interesting to see due to his previous experience with 'Bowler'

  • @TheBlazinJedi
    @TheBlazinJedi Před 2 lety +1

    Wow- this is so amazing! I haven’t even read the books, only seen the TV show and this peaked my interest, I’m amazing you managed to narrow it down like this! I just subscribed!

  • @lukechristmas3951
    @lukechristmas3951 Před rokem +3

    I accept this conclusion! I am very impressed by how in-depth your research and keen is your eye because I never payed attention to any of the finer details on Diesel. It really blows my mind that Diesel was built in Darlington and was a North Eastern Region engine meaning he was working alongside ex-LNER engines. As for me, I've been interested in trying to find out what Duck's original number was before 5741 when he came to Sodor. I've taken the clues of Paddington and King James I from Duck mentioning these in the books to get a start. King James I was allocated to the Old Oak Common sheds when first built. Old Oak Common sheds housed those engines near Paddington so Duck had to have been a 5700 that was allocated to Old Oak Common when King James I was there. The Unlucky Tug pointed out to me that Duck is the 5700 variant with round windows. This variant of 5700 were built from 1929 to 1933. If you want some resources about Duck's number that I'm tracking down right now, I could tell you what I have so far.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před rokem

      Cheers, I have done a lot of research into Duck but not got an exact basis yet!

  • @pilky7
    @pilky7 Před 2 lety +6

    Yass these are amazing can’t wait to see this

  • @DTGee64
    @DTGee64 Před 2 lety +4

    I believe "Thomas and the Evil Diesel" was intended to take place following "Branch Line Engines," which would explain Percy's absence. Keep in mind, the story was intended to fit somewhere in the continuity of the stories adapted for Series 2.

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 Před 2 lety +1

      I think that would be S3, not 2. Not to mention that it doesn't really fit in anyway; Percy is "unwell" for reasons clearly unrelated to the accident, and the awkward predicament is that Percy would leave them with only two engines to run the line as opposed to the required three. Thomas and the Evil Diesel takes place at a point where four engines are needed.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes I think this is right, the book was published in 1987 which is a year after S2 went out. It was more likely to be an alternative to Diesel Does It Again in S3.

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I like it better than Diesel Does It Again. As Diesel worked around Hull and Goole he would be used to dock working...

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah

  • @matttheoddestsaddletank518

    This is a legendary video! Cant wait to see more vids :D

  • @callum110597
    @callum110597 Před rokem +1

    What an amazing theory, and great research!

  • @pizzaplanettruck9761
    @pizzaplanettruck9761 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm honestly glad Diesel and the other 08 characters have the brake housings on both sides. They just don't look right with just the one. Especially when looked at from the front.

  • @ZakuInATopHat
    @ZakuInATopHat Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hope he stays in preservation when he’s off the clock.

  • @giovannispada2037
    @giovannispada2037 Před rokem +2

    so diesel is alive? dam seeying thomas bases still in working order is very amazing

  • @ewanfawkes2708
    @ewanfawkes2708 Před 2 lety +19

    Question: How do you find out the places where specific engines were allocated? Is there a website I can go to?
    I´ve tried Wikipedia but they don´t list every single locomotive in the UK.

  • @oliverthebrblack5330
    @oliverthebrblack5330 Před 2 lety +1

    this is awsome!

  • @Britishrailwaystories
    @Britishrailwaystories Před rokem +2

    Everyone else: that’s cool. Me: Please tell me I didn’t use the same number for my 08 character. Literal scramble to find the number, but I used 13238. Thank goodness. What a great bit of research work, well done. 👏

  • @danielsellers8707
    @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +2

    I went to York yesterday and saw two Class 08s; one at Murton Park (Derwent Valley Light Railway) and another working with Wabtec at Doncaster railway works. They're still indispensable 60 years after the last was built. Murton Park's 08 is a later build than Diesel as it has the later style engine compartment door handles.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      They are so resilient eh

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I think Diesel gives his class a bad name when in real life they were one of the most successful locomotives built; a case of the hare and the tortoise:-)

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      He certainly didn't show how revolutionary they were!

  • @vinny7265
    @vinny7265 Před 2 lety +1

    You gained my attention and now i'm your subscriber

  • @andydoms2001
    @andydoms2001 Před 7 měsíci

    Diesel’s number 13236 seems perfect for him. Diesel is meant to be plain, not unique, unremarkable, and utilitarian. 13236 is a random number of the thousand class 08’s and has no significant meaning to him, so I think it’s perfect. Good job narrowing it down.

  • @AnimeArchaeologist
    @AnimeArchaeologist Před rokem +2

    Diesel became a Bluebell engine IRL? That makes me laugh!

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před rokem +1

      Yes, he was there for a few years 😁

    • @AnimeArchaeologist
      @AnimeArchaeologist Před rokem +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I actually wanna do a remake for Day Of The Diesels where Diesel, Diesel 10 and Sir Topham Hatt go to the Other Railway to help get parts for Pinchy's recalibration, meet Stepney on the Other Railway, have Stepney reveal that he's on a railway show in London and then let Stepney tell Topham and Diesel 10 about the time when Diesel was on the Bluebell Line with Stepney.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před rokem +1

      Sounds like fun :)

  • @Idone1215
    @Idone1215 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice

  • @redfernworks
    @redfernworks Před 2 lety +1

    I hope you make more of these

  • @ruestudios
    @ruestudios Před rokem +1

    This is amazing. Anyone else here after TheUnluckyTug's video?

  • @SodorTrain1225
    @SodorTrain1225 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank goodness he's still alive.

  • @thesignalman_ytofficial
    @thesignalman_ytofficial Před 2 lety +3

    Wow you have gained a lot of subs!

  • @MamankJery
    @MamankJery Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 Před 2 lety +1

    I went on a couple trains that went on burton on trent last month. Stop after the one I got on. Will have to keep an eye out next time i vited ny mate

  • @epicdude8742
    @epicdude8742 Před 2 lety +1

    Hrm. I know it's not a lot to go off of, but would it possible to find a real life analogue for Stanley? That would pose a real challenge if it's at all possible, I'm sure.
    In general, I enjoy the narrow gague engines so if any of the others seem like more intriguing prospects I'd love to see it.
    Really glad I found this channel in my recommendations, you've got some amazing talent for finding these engines!

  • @supertheorys1176
    @supertheorys1176 Před 2 lety +1

    How, just how did nail down diesels basis from like 1000 to 1. That is incredible

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      I just used every resource I could find to discount 08s til I found the most likely diesel :)

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      Amazing! Most people think all 08s look the same but there are a minefield of small detail differences!

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, yeah it was fun identifying the differences :)

  • @ThePanzer6
    @ThePanzer6 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Guessing he was based on the Triang Railways 00 gauge model as well.

  • @Lightbolt95
    @Lightbolt95 Před 2 lety +3

    One extra piece of evidence I will say is that you can aluminate the southern region 08s based off of the fact that Sodor is in The far north west of the country and it wouldn’t make any sense for southern 08 to be allocated there

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      I will address this in the follow up video, but the reason I didn't mention it is all the Southern Region 08s were withdrawn too early to be Diesel. Good point though 🙂

  • @henryandoliverfan3115
    @henryandoliverfan3115 Před 2 lety +1

    Awsome

  • @harrishyatt6283
    @harrishyatt6283 Před 2 lety +1

    i wonder what diesel's life like before coming to sodor and after leaving sodor (i was surprise to see him in thomas and the missing christmas tree and gordon and the famous visitor) wondered how was he after diesel does it again, and tender engines, wondered what he was like during series 4, 5, and tatmr, wondered what he was like before and after the world's strongest engine, also wondered how to became a resident on sodor and what he was like before and after fergus breaks the rules

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Yeah I've not really looked into TV show diesel, funny how he was in those two S3 episodes

    • @harrishyatt6283
      @harrishyatt6283 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 he also appeared in mavis (episode), made a cameo in escape, and he was gonna appear in edward, trevor and the really useful party but his role was cut

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Oh right

  • @jadenamoako5731
    @jadenamoako5731 Před 2 lety +2

    There is a roblox game called steam age which was based on the United Kingdom railways in the 1960s when steam locomotives were still a common sight until the new diesel locomotives made them extinct

  • @danielsellers8707
    @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

    I saw a Class 08 in faded EWS livery at Leeds Neville Hill from the train 🚆 on the way to York last weekend. Wabtec in Doncaster has at least 2 and there's one at the Derwent Valley Railway in York.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah I love how you can still see them almost 70 years after the first of them came out

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 Me too, the first built (number 13000 / D3000) is preserved, currently at Peak Rail not far from me in Derbyshire. This is the railway where BoCo's brother D5705 was stored in the 1980s, at the same time as the Class 151 railcars (Derby and Matlock) were in trial service on the Matlock line. In my fanfiction D5705 joins the North Western Railway after a meeting between BoCo and Derby or Matlock at Vicarstown. BoCo is surprised the modern diesel unit knew about Metropolitan Vickers CoBo diesels and thought only one survived...
      This chance meeting starts a train of events that would lead to CoBo's restoration.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Nice

  • @numberjacksoctonauts7138
    @numberjacksoctonauts7138 Před 2 lety +1

    My take on Diesel had his real life numbers be 13238 (his number at the time of the Duck and the Diesel Engine book), then D3238
    and finally 08170 (his TOPS number at the time of Thomas and the Evil Diesel) before his Sodor number was D16. I am aware that this number means the timeline in my series is a bit tight, but he slipped off to Barrow to secretly do shunting, essentially pulling an Oliver, before one of the Sodor engines finds him and decides to bring him to Sodor when they find out what Diesel's fate would have been.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Yes, it's tighter for 13238 than 13236,but after being withdrawn in 1986,13238 was not scrapped until 1991,giving plenty of time for him to be saved from scrap. 13236 is IMO the most likely candidate for Diesel, but he could be any of the 23 listed.

    • @numberjacksoctonauts7138
      @numberjacksoctonauts7138 Před 2 lety

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I know. I just don't use preserved engines for basis for engines in my series unless it's a "real life" engine.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      I know what you mean 🙂

  • @jaxixteen
    @jaxixteen Před 2 lety +1

    Interesting.

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 Před 2 lety +3

    Very cool! I thought a good candidate for real life Diesel could be 13079, also built by Darlington and preserved at the NRM; I figured this since a generic 08 painted black comes to help Thomas on his journey to York in 1990. Could you do a video explaining how Old Stuck-Up (40125) was on Sodor supposedly in 1984, when his real life counterpart had been scrapped the previous year, let alone withdrawn 2 years prior? I've never understood that...

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      I have more steam engines to do before I get to the diesels, but I'll do 40125 yes. The NRM 08 is a good shout, and is very close to being a good option for Diesel, but has the older cab rear lighting style 🙂

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I think 40125 might have been withdrawn following the Tidmouth crash.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Could be, I've not really looked into the diesels much yet, aside from BoCo and Diesel :)

  • @griffinrails
    @griffinrails Před 2 lety +3

    This series is legendary! I challenge you to find out Pip and Emma next!

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      They won't be next, but they're on my list to look at. As they're quite modern I think it'll be hard to narrow them down, but I'll give it my best shot!

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      Not all InterCity 125s are identical; the early ones had a guard's van and extra windows in the rear of the power car and were built without the smoke deflector plates around the exhausts. There have been subsequent engine / cooler group replacements but Pip and Emma retain their BR blue, grey and yellow colour scheme for continuity same as Diesel remains in black.
      Pip and Emma can't be the HST power cars written off in the Southall, Ladbroke grove or Ufton Nervet train crashes; they can't be 43013,014,068,080 or 084 as these were fitted with buffers for running with Class 91 push pull trains. Pip or Emma can't be 43062 either as this is used by Network Rail as well.
      Nine down, 188 to go...

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Good points, not even started to look into the intercitys yet :D

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 43065 and 43067 were fitted with buffers as well!

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Cheers I'll keep that in mind! 🙂

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121

    I’d wish to know if any real class 08 had any issues moving rotten trucks like in pop goes the diesel, or if there were any rumors like in dirty work

  • @Sodorplaylandofficial
    @Sodorplaylandofficial Před 2 lety +1

    Fun fact: I was your 400th sub!

  • @Scrinwaipwr
    @Scrinwaipwr Před 2 lety +1

    5:34 Stepney thought this was very silly.

  • @busterthesteamroller1136
    @busterthesteamroller1136 Před 2 lety +1

    Great job. Although, Christopher Awdry refers to Evil Diesel as 'an invention of the publisher' in Sodor reading between the lines, so Ithink it isn't meant to be considered part of RWS continuity.

  • @FlyingFoxProductions8995
    @FlyingFoxProductions8995 Před 2 lety +1

    3:00 it takes place after gordon the high speed engine

  • @Sid3300
    @Sid3300 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There’s actually an image of D13226 with a Diesel face on. Appropriate 😅

  • @harrythered4-4-0production8

    I think I'd be paxton since he's kind and clumsy

  • @blueberrytigerfox7699
    @blueberrytigerfox7699 Před 2 lety

    You can do Thomas next and you did amazing work on the vid

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 Před 2 lety +1

      Thomas has the extended sidetanks, so of the 10 E2s built, he has to be one of the later five. Of that group, three of them were built too late to be Thomas, who arrived on Sodor in 1915.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LB%26SCR_E2_class
      There are two left. No. 105 was built in June 1915, and No. 106 was built in September 1915. Either are possible, really, although perhaps you think September is a bit too late in the year. I don't know much else, and I think the only other info, based on the RWS, is that Thomas meets Boxhill on the LB&SCR and that he has to arrive in time to help build the North Western Railway in 1915. (So I guess it's 105 then?)

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      He will be done eventually 😁

  • @BlackMan12331
    @BlackMan12331 Před 2 lety +2

    Please consider doing one of bocos past before sodor like him working with his brothers and then after he leaves for sodor 3 years later they were withdrawn and D5701 being in a railway series illustration looking for oliver in the same blue livery and logo

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah he'll be done soon 🙂

    • @BlackMan12331
      @BlackMan12331 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 wouldn't it be interesting if D5701 escaped from Tipton UK where he was sent for scrap or Carlisle kingmoor yard where him and the rest of bocos relatives for being held at before being sent for scrap all the way to sodor Just like Oliver did so he can join boco in preservation

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes

  • @BrucieMagik
    @BrucieMagik Před 2 lety +1

    Slight correction for you. The battlefield Railway is in Leicestershire, not Lancashire.
    Very good video though and some great research and deduction.

  • @Curlicuecurli
    @Curlicuecurli Před 2 lety +1

    YOOO SO I CAN GO MEET DIESEL!?

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      I have no idea how open Nemesis rail is but you can certainly see him from afar!

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121

    Diesel came to the North Western on trial in 1957 a while after City-Of-Truro visited, and Duck was to show him around in the yard. Diesel boasts about his revolution and how he should know what to do. Duck, unimpressed, tries to humble him by having him collect his trucks for him on his own. Diesel tries to show off, but instead gets humiliated when he fails to move some rotten trucks with worn brakes, resulting him becoming a laughing-stock by the other trucks who start to sing rudely at him. Diesel blames Duck for everything, deciding to get revenge and send him away. Throughout the week, he spreads lies around the yard to the trucks about Duck insulting the other engines, including Henry, James, and Gordon, inspired by events and mishaps such as Henry’s tire-rims going flat, James getting lassoed by Edward (in old iron) and would’ve been rusted if he’d crash and it’s rained, and Gordon being claimed to gallop like a horse and having hot drips of water sizzle and pop on his boiler like frying sausages. It upsets the other engines so much that they soon turned against Duck. Sir Topham Hatt then sends Duck to help Edward at Wellsworth for a while to pending upon further inquiry into the matter. Meanwhile, Diesel was soon caught and found out, so he got sent away in disgrace. As for Duck by that time, he regained the others’ respect when he bravely stops a runaway train at his own risk, despite crashing into a barbershop himself, and returned home soon afterwards.

  • @N00N01
    @N00N01 Před 2 lety +1

    (The meme) Daaaaaamn

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop Před 2 lety +1

    There was almost ONE-THOUSAND Class 08s!?

  • @arthurmelez4163
    @arthurmelez4163 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey @Sodor Island Models, Since you did Jinty as well as Diesel, then..why not try to find the Real life Murdoch? aka the 9F? that would be a interesting one.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Thing is there is less information as he is a TV character, but I'll certainly do something on him at some point :)

  • @spiffwhiff6293
    @spiffwhiff6293 Před 2 lety +3

    I wonder what LMS Patriot class the Foreign engine was.
    Great detective work by the way

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      The Patriot is on my to do list, but there is very little to go on, I think it could be one of thirty two engines. I'll get round to it eventually 😁

  • @quarrylocomotiveproduction5439

    Diesel did help Thomas onto the flatbed of the Lorry when Thomas was going to the national railway museum in York this is my head Cannon as in Thomas and the great railway show in the second story not a ticket there was a class O8 diesel shunter painted black so in my head Canon that diesel engine who helped Thomas on to the flatbed of the Lorry was diesel

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      It's unlikely they're the same engine, but headcanons can be fun anyway :)

    • @quarrylocomotiveproduction5439
      @quarrylocomotiveproduction5439 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 I know some things would have been better off if Clive Spong illustrated the diesel pushing Thomas onto the Lorry's flatbed painted green

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      By the time of Thomas and the Great Railway Show, 08s were painted in many different liveries, some one off liveries too, but green is certainly possible

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      It could be the NRM's 13079.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Now confirmed to be diesel

  • @SretroOfTheNortheast
    @SretroOfTheNortheast Před 2 lety +1

    Yoo stephany met diesel

  • @megalosaurusstudios2
    @megalosaurusstudios2 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh shit! Diesel is real?!?

  • @secondchancejunkyard7946
    @secondchancejunkyard7946 Před 2 lety +1

    If it's okay, I would like to use this idea for my version of Devious Diesel in OO gauge, and HO scale forms. The only trouble I have is, I don't know which OO gauge version of the Class 08 comes close to resembling 13236.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Fine by me!

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      You want one with the horizontal door hinges; Bachmann make the early body 08 with these hinges.
      They made a model in BR black livery but it had red coupling rods, but it would make a good starting point for your Diesel model. Apart from the side rods being red it has all the other features you're looking for. It just needs renumbering to 13236. I'd make the face removable to make Diesel look like he would in real life. There are some 'real life' Thomas models on CZcams that don't have faces and are made to look more realistic.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      Good tips

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 Bachmann made a BR black 08 numbered 13238 that looks just like Diesel but with the red coupling rods. All Hornby and Bachmann 08s have the plates over the 4 lower air intakes behind the ladders but these are not really noticeable on ladder fitted locos.
      This model and the Hornby 13079 just need the numbers changing and the coupling rods stripping to remove the red paint to be Diesel.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Yep that's good advice

  • @lewisshields8481
    @lewisshields8481 Před 2 lety +1

    Did you find any information on Darlington built 13233 as I’m trying to make that model in O gauge? Great video by the way

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před rokem +1

      I will have a look for you when I have a chance :)

    • @lewisshields8481
      @lewisshields8481 Před rokem +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 cheers

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Into service Jan 56, assigned to hull dajrycoates, renumbered d3233 in Aug 59, renumbered 08165 in Apr 74, withdrawn jul 80 and cut up in Dec 80 in swindon

  • @FictionalADDON
    @FictionalADDON Před 2 lety +1

    You should do henry

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Yeah I'll do Henry at some point, got a few at various stages of planning to put out first though 🙂

  • @Scrinwaipwr
    @Scrinwaipwr Před 2 lety +2

    0:49 Diesel has unpainted silver coloured side rods.
    4:49 Diesel's side rods are painted red, even though it seems he is seen in the books with them silver since then - did they keep recolouring them or is this photo just a mock-up using a different engine as the base?

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +2

      13236 has been restored to an old livery, but I doubt they knew about the subtle different in side rods as most had red siderods

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 Photos of the National Railway Museum's 13079 show it with red side rods as well. I agree this is possibly the 08 in Thomas and the Great Railway Show...

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 5 měsíci

      Mmm

  • @ThomasLover
    @ThomasLover Před rokem +2

    Who came here after UnluckyTug’s New Debunked Video?

  • @Locomotiveman1994
    @Locomotiveman1994 Před 2 lety +2

    Not bad. However, you did make a mistake by judging that Diesel's still in BR service by 1986. Any BR loco would have been in BR blue. But, Diesel's clearly seen to be in the original black livery, which means he cannot be in BR service. I would rather guess that Diesel was on loan from an heritage railway then from BR themselves.

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety +1

      I'll be addressing this in the follow up video, but in short I believe diesel is illustrated in black for continuity, and the book states he came from The Other Railway. I'll have the next video up in a few days hopefully 🙂

  • @TrainBoy-fd1bp
    @TrainBoy-fd1bp Před 2 lety

    Actually Thomas and the evil diesel took place in 1965

  • @thetoontrain6073
    @thetoontrain6073 Před 2 lety +1

    Video suggestion: which engine is the real Henry?

  • @mikewellsworth5477
    @mikewellsworth5477 Před 2 lety +1

    DIESEL LESS GOO

  • @geocachingwomble
    @geocachingwomble Před 2 lety +1

    Could you please do which engine Oliver is?

    • @sodorislandmodels6332
      @sodorislandmodels6332  Před 2 lety

      Oliver will be done in due course 🙂

    • @geocachingwomble
      @geocachingwomble Před 2 lety

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 thank you he's my favourite overall character from the railway series because of his character arc

    • @numberjacksoctonauts7138
      @numberjacksoctonauts7138 Před 2 lety

      Doesn't Oliver have a canon number? 1436. Duck too has a canon number: 5741.

    • @geocachingwomble
      @geocachingwomble Před 2 lety

      @@numberjacksoctonauts7138 although Oliver has a cannon number that number wasn't assigned to a locomotive of that type by GWR

    • @geocachingwomble
      @geocachingwomble Před rokem +1

      @@sodorislandmodels6332 where are you on Oliver his numbers and nameplates were swapped during his rescue from scrap in order to initially rescue him

  • @Redstudio_production
    @Redstudio_production Před 2 lety

    Who’s next

  • @Gamerguy826
    @Gamerguy826 Před 2 lety

    He's not a Class 08 (also called a D199 if I remember correctly). He's a Paxton V1 which is the Class 08 prototype introduced in the 1930s. There was some other TTTE CZcamsr who went into it in further detail on it, but I can't remember who. His signature line of "We are revolutionary" is an homage to his experimental nature. Ironically, he has something in common with Henry in his old Gresley state because of his "incomplete" status.

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 Před 2 lety +2

      That is all headcanon. Really good, well-thought-out, interesting headcanon, but still headcanon. In real life, there is no Paxman V1.

    • @Gamerguy826
      @Gamerguy826 Před 2 lety

      @@shivamkamil1581 Paxton, not Paxman. Also, are you sure? Can you give me a source for your claim?

    • @akikubel710
      @akikubel710 Před 2 lety +2

      I can't find any official source calling Diesel a Paxton V1, nor anything that refers to LMS 7120 (the design that the BR Class 08 shunter is based on) being such.
      But I did find a fanworks wiki called 'Stories of Sodor' that refers to Diesel as such without references; it also lists his build date as 1931 which is before even the design that preceded the whole series of designs that lead to the Class 08, as LMS 7079 the original demonstrator was built in 1934.
      Edit: upon looking for Paxman I got results, in 1930 a Paxman engine was put into LMS Shunter 1831 which was built by Vulcan Foundry. it was built in the frame of a steam engine.
      but a English electric engine was used in the LM 7120 (which became BR Class 11) and the BR Class 08 shunters.
      a Paxman engine was used in the Class 14 though.

    • @Gamerguy826
      @Gamerguy826 Před 2 lety

      @@akikubel710 I did say he was a diesel prototype from the 30s, so that's more or less what I was talking about. I just didn't remember all of the specifics.
      Big fan of Victor Tanzig by the way. Have you seen it yet?

    • @shivamkamil1581
      @shivamkamil1581 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, I'm familiar with Stories of Sodor. I love that series. It's why I instantly recognized what this was about.
      Very interesting, and well thought through. It is all headcanon though.

  • @harrishyatt6283
    @harrishyatt6283 Před 2 lety +1

    i disliked aeg diesel

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121

    Nice

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 Před 2 lety +1

    I went on a couple trains that went on burton on trent last month. Stop after the one I got on. Will have to keep an eye out next time i vited ny mate

  • @the_autism_express
    @the_autism_express Před 2 lety +1

    Nice