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- Cardiologists Eugenia Gianos and Binita Shah debunk 12 myths about the heart. They cover the effects of red wine and eggs on the heart, the dangers of heartbreak, and which diet and exercise routines improve heart health. They also emphasize that heart attacks and heart disease can happen to anyone. In fact, heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US.
Gianos is a professor of cardiology at the Zucker School of Medicine and director of cardiovascular prevention at Northwell health. She specializes in preventive cardiology and women's heart health. You can learn more about her work here: www.northwell.edu/find-care/f...
Shah is an interventional cardiologist and associate director of research at NYU Langone's Cardiac Catheterization Laboratory. She specializes in using radial artery catheterization to open blocked arteries. You can learn more about her work here: nyulangone.org/doctors/180109...
0:00 Intro
0:43 Red wine is good for your heart
1:21 You can't die from a broken heart
2:13 A keto diet is the best for your heart
3:36 Eggs are bad for your heart
4:18 Heart attacks don't happen to healthy people
4:59 All fats are unhealthy
6:02 It's only a heart attack if you have chest pain
6:49 Cholesterol is bad for your heart
7:51 You only need cardio for heart health
8:29 I'm too young to worry about heart disease
9:14 Heart disease is a man's problem
9:58 Smoking only affects the lungs
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I basically had a silent heart attack. I had one symptom. Difficulty breathing. I am surprised they didn't list it. It's supposedly the symptom that many women have. 🤷♀️👀
It's amazing you weren't listed as a covid victim.
It's amazing you introduce your crap political beliefs on a medical channel.
!! I read in Invisible Women that often women have no chest pain, more often a discomfort/pain in the stomach and difficulty breathing. Really dangerous that the focus has been on men's anatomy for so long when there are so many differences in how our bodies react to different things!
@@herbbowler2461 I still haven't gotten Covid because I follow all the restrictions and advice from the CDC.
@@MeninaIsCrazy2
I am not worried about covid.
Even if i did get it. It is very easy to cure !
I DON'T FOLLOW MOST OF THERE RULES !
I asked my cardiologist if he's ever cured anyone of hypertension and he said yes, you have to go on a diet, lose weight and keep it off, then you won't have to take the pills. So that's what I did and now I'm off alot of my med's. I now check my blood pressure every day and it's nice and low.
Same here, wake up go run 5-10 km. Eat as healthy as possible during the day. Salad with not much calories for dinner. My blood pressure is under control with only a small doses of medication now.
Yes, this is exactly what my mom's doctor told her and it seems to be working.
Medication helps but you can’t fix a bad diet with drugs.
Hypertension is not always connected to obesity......
@@BIG_DRU but it sure does increase the chances
My mother suffered of heart disease and high blood pressure and took multiple medications for 17 years. And finally she went keto 3 years ago. And she is finally off all medication and is healthy as a horse at age 79. She eats mostly animal diet. She is never sick! Her joint pains have gone. And her blood markers are the best in 40+ years.
I’ve been keto 2 months and have lost 25 lbs and feel fantastic. All my stiffness in my joints is gone.
@@charliej.2716 Exactly. I have been on keto for 4+ years. And they say it is not sustainable. Lol. 😃😃
I’ve been eating keto for 2.5 years. Very sustainable in my opinion. Also very healthy according to my doctor wife who also prescribes keto in her practice.
@@jaywhoisit4863 Great. Very rare to find doctors who prescribe keto diet. Keep going. It just keeps getting better.
My gran smoked and drink every day and lived to 100 and didn’t need any ridiculous keto diet.
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy" I'd really like an explanation for that one. Just incase I can be obese and healthy someday.
They lost credibility with that one.
Obesity is defined from BMI. Your BMI can be high due to your high number in weight. Your weight can be heavy due to bad diet and lifestyle or you can be heavy from having low fat % and high in muscle (ex. bodybuilders). A pound of muscle and a pound of fat are very different in volume. There a lot more factors to look at aside from being considered as "obese" from your BMI number
@@yelinaung99 no, you are wrong, obesity is high body fat, it is not defined by BMI. bodybuilders may have a high BMI, but can not be called obese.
@@donaldobrien9171 I am just copy pasting from CDC. "BMI is a person’s weight in kilograms divided by the square of height in meters" "If your BMI is 30.0 or higher, it falls within the obesity range"
I stopped at that statement. How can we agree when the science can not agree.
"Skinny is not necessarily healthy" as a skinny person, I can agree whole heartedly with this.
Ohhhhh yes!!! So can I!!! I'm around 10kgs underweight and it has A HUGE effect on me. Especially around energy levels and blood production issues. And it affects me also if I have to have operations under general anesthesia.
I am naturally thin, and despite being under the recommended BMI, I have never had any adverse effects of my weight. I'm in my mid 60's and need no meds, love to exercise, including chin ups, hiking, and Freestyle Frisbee. I owe it to my pure plant based diet centered around whole foods.
I wish that they debunked the idea that big muscles mean that you are healthy!
How many bodybuilders die young?
@@someguy2135 Anabolic steroids?
But obesity is unhealthy. Idk why a dr wouldn’t say that
Smoking is the one one thing that my grandparents explicitly ask their kids and grandkids not to do. They are big believers that you are going to make mistakes and learn from those mistakes so for them to ask that of us has always been a big deal. I am quite proud of them both for being able to quit smoking about fifteen years ago. But it took them years to be able to get to the point where they had cut down in the amount they smoked to be able to quit. They started smoking as teenagers when it was perfectly fine to smoke like a chimney and they smoked for decades, so it taking so long to quit makes a lot of sense.
My father died at 75 from cardiovascular disease from years of heavy smoking, always unfiltered high tar and high nicotine cigarettes. He would fill the living room with a fog of smoke in the evenings. When my doctor said that passive smoking was one of the causes of my asthma my mother stopped him smoking in the house. He would go to the conservatory or workshop to smoke.
He was totally addicted, even after having emergency surgery for aortic embolism he was smoking as soon as he could.
For some it is easy to quit others very hard. Yes. You can be very proud they quit
I quit in 1975 and will regret that i dod smoke for the rest of my life.
Your flesh and dairy diet is just as bad as smoking 🤣
@@robertcohen8554
Or worse
@@peterjf7723 Your father was lucky. I lost my dad to COVID after effects by heart attack. He was just 55 yrs with no complications, and I am 21. Have to take cake of my engineering degree and my asthmatic mom at the same time, I am so under pressure of my responsibilities that I haven't forgive him of leaving me behind like that. Even I got COVID while trying to take care of him and he still didn't make it for me.
Sorry to say these cardiologists are still living in Ancel Keys era calling food cholesterol bad 😔
Dr Berg on his version of healthy Keto and intermittent fasting, would probably school these two on the facts.
Agree! Even the Cleveland Clinic has backed away from the saturated fats (cholesterol) BS>
They do distinguish between bad and good cholesterol. Any preventive cardiologists knows this including these ones. Just because they say things you don't like to hear doesnt mean they're wrong
These ill-informed “professionals” are spewing the type of advice that will definitely keep cardiologists in business . Telling people to do exactly what you should not be doing to your heart.
@@scotchbarrel4429 eric berg is an absolute quack, he is not even a medical doctor he is a chiropractor
These ladies are accomplished cardiologists, and I listened to their video, not a mention of sugar, insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome just the anti fat put forward bu Ansel Keys…Yes they mention smoking. These ladies are not nutritionists. Has the medical profession moved forward in its anti fat thinking at all?
Watching these videos will make you very sick; one doctor tell you one thing and another doctor tells you the absolute opposite; where do you go from here?
It’s really textbook recitals! The entire cholesterol thing is really confused across the entire medical field. So much good research and knowledge out there but doctors are stuck in the textbook mode for the most part. Better to listen to researchers in my opinion.
Lol in the millions of heart surgery’s ever conducted not once has an artery ever been clogged up with sugar. it’s fat animal and cholesterol how do they know because they scrape it out take it down the lab and test it and they’ve known for decades. Doctors have been telling us what’s the cause and what to people do they go and eat more. Rates of heart disease and diabetes have doubled since the 80’s consumption of meat, dairy and eggs has doubled since the 80’s. You’ve got a trillion dollar meat industry that wants your money and doesn’t care if you die. It doesn’t want people eating healthy and actively works to discredit real healthy foods like fruits and vegetables.
@@sid35gb Thanks David C I would say you need to read a little deeper.
Listening to doctors, nurses and dietitians can surely kill you in a NY minute!
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy"
Nice try america..
😄😄😄
Totally threw me off and couldn't concentrate on the rest (immediately went to the comments section).
@@jijianji1 same lol
@@jijianji1 Me too😂😂
That and sneaking in that heart attacks are not subjective to gender assignment.. duh
"Up to one glass a day could potentially be good for your heart". If I am correct, a Lancet study has recently found that there is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. I've seen explanations that suggest the 'beneficial' effects of 1 glass of wine for health was because studies had not removed abstaining alcoholics from the 'no alcohol' group, essentially including people at higher risks of mortality due to damage sustained while they were drinking, with people who just avoid alcohol. This would certainly explain the apparent parradox.
What about alcohol free wine!
These are cardiologists, not nutritionists. MD's have almost zero nutrition training.
They said "obesity is not necessarily unhealthy." Obesity is inherently unhealthy lol. I'd bet they push the food pyramid.
@@icestationzebraassociates2460 Given that obesity is generally based on your BMI, you can be considered obese and still be healthy. There are many Olympic strength athletes that are classified as being overweight or obese, so what they said here is true.
@@Frenchdayz Granted, but when I say "obese" I mean obese. The generally accepted measure is inaccurate. I'm talking about people who are actually obese. Not just measured by BMI or weight.
You know who they are and they most likely know as well.
@@icestationzebraassociates2460 They're unlikely to be suggesting you can be 40% body fat and be healthy.
I listen to a neurobiologist that states eggs, including the yolk, are good for brain health. I would assume that moderation is the key, similar to many things in life.
They list fairly broad heart health rules; the only way to know how your body handles a certain diet is to have your doctor check your bloodwork every 6-12 months. If your numbers are good, then what keep on doing what you're doing.
I think the usual advice is that one egg a day is fine. At least that's what my doctors have told me.
This is definitely the most controversial of these videos I've seen.
- Negative shorthand portrayal of Keto diet
- View that cholesterol is inherently bad
- Further saying LDL cholesterol is "bad" - Yes it is reiterated like that for the layman, but I expected more detail from these experts
- Obesity is not unhealthy (said as a general statement when we know it is only in very specific niche cases this is true)
- Trans fats cannot be broken down by the body (Yeah, it's really bad to eat but you cannot just blatantly lie to scare people)
This is unacceptable.
Not *unnecessarily* unhealthy, they particularly said.
i don't trust cardiologists because they don't know how body really works
in other words BS
The 'obesity is not necessarily unhealthy' is something I definitely question about. I'm highly dubious of that statement. Although thin people still being unhealthy definitely is true varying by case.
Found the broscience guy
Just my body and my experience but I ate a minimum of 6 eggs every day for a year. Some days were 9-12 and I only missed 4 days. Had blood tested twice during the middle and end with no significant change in cholesterol or blood pressure. My HDL went up 15%, LDL actually went down 5%, triglycerides were about the same but healthy levels. I will say I live an active lifestyle and only eat whole foods. I bring this up because eggs get a bad wrap from doctors that are using their knowledge of cholesterol they learned 10-15 years ago. This is way more complex than good vs bad cholesterol but it's too hard to explain to the masses without them misinterpreting the information to eat a McDonald's egg McMuffin every day. Eggs are an extremely valuable food source. Don't sleep on them lol
Well if you watched the video you can see its more about what you eat it with . Like they said, cheese, egg and bacon on white bread roll will have different effect than how you were eating them.
Eggs are healthy in moderation, but 6/day is unhealthy for most people.
Some people have genetically lower levels of cholesterol and health markers and studies show people with those genetics typically have lower rates of heart disease even when eating foods that would normally increase other people's risks. That's why science doesn't typically rely on anecdotal evidence.
Diet is the number one factor of heart disease but it's not the only factor. Also, if your eating lots of whole foods, Fibre intake also reduces risk so it could very well be that the eggs increase your risks but the extra Fibre you eat reduces that risk and evens out. If you look at a chart of heart disease risk as well. The only group that doesn't get heart attacks at all is those that have their cholesterol below I think 50. Once you get to 75 you still have a small risk even though it's pretty low and risk climbs in a dose response rate relative to levels.
I can second this. I have had unto 12 eggs a day regularly for multiple years, 6 of them with yolk, almost daily. Usually comes down to about 4-6 eggs, and I stop eating if I am not working out. After reading new data, I stopped discarding yolk and have been consuming whole eggs for years now and my Cholesterol numbers are normal. As you say, this whole thing about HDL/LDL is misinterpreted information as both HDL and LDL are absolutely essential components of a healthy body. Correlation is not causation.
Stop using anecdotal stories as evidence, please.
I'm not so sure about the info on Keto. It assumes you are going to eat strictly animal products only but there's just so much more. It's like they are trying to pin Keto to meat only diet. I would search up Dr. Berg Keto diet. I have been on keto diet as suggested by him and have reversed fatty liver and medicine dependency. Eggs are good for you!
There is absolutely no mention of sugar being bad for your heart. Even though everybody knows that hyper processed foods are bad and they're all loaded with sugar......
Sugar isn’t bad. Processed foods with excessive sugar, salt, and fat is.
@@skepticalbutopen4620 salt is not bad, fat is not bad (MSG is not great). Sugar is bad because causes fatty liver disease and high levels of LDL cholesterol which leads to a plaque build up in the arteries. You may think that fruit is okay because it grows but excessive amounts leads to fatty liver as well because the only spot fructose can be metabolized is in your liver, if you eat too much it stores it on your liver cuz that's the easiest thing to do.
@@brianbell7267 everything you stated goes against the science. Do your research. Real research. Not what some guru told you on the internet.
@@skepticalbutopen4620 dude... I am living it ...I cut out sugar flour fruit processed foods and my liver function is back to normal the size of my liver has reduced to normal size(not fatty) my blood pressure is perfect glucose level is great .... everything is better!!!!! The way that I have always been is to do my own research (don't listen to a big brother necessarily)
Listen to multiple points of view and formulate my own plan and that is what I have done..... I've lost almost 100 pounds in the last year and I feel great and all my labs are great.... So please don't accuse me of being naive or uninformed
@@brianbell7267 good for you! Glad you found something that works for you. Understood, your experience is that all sugar is bad. That’s not what the science says and that’s not my experience or the experience of many people is. My blood pressure is perfect, my blood work is perfect, and I eat no processed foods ever. But I do eat a ton of fruit every single day and whole plants. There is more than one way to the same destination. Dont make your diet your religion. Just appreciate it works for you.
All I can say is due to my Keto diet for past year and 1/2 I am no longer am on acid reflux meds, 30 years of psoriasis is gone, decades of arthritis have dramatically improved and for the first time in my adult life my cholesterol numbers are excellent. I didn’t actually try to lose weight, but did loose 40 pounds over time. Oh, my blood pressure medication was also reduced 4 times. Haven’t had much trouble with allergies or asthma either which has been a near 50 year experience.
Results don't matter to these people. They think they are experts with 20 year old ideas.
And it's not because you lost weight but definitely because you changed your diet.
@@FutureCommentary1 I've seen testimony of normal weight former vegans who have switched to keto or carnivore make the same claims.
Anecdotal nonsense.
@@williamwilson6499 While not as strong as peer reviewed studies, anecdotal evidence can still be sound and based on your statement it's clear to me that you have ignored reams of peer reviewed research as well.
This is the kind of advice that kept me so sick for so many years. Thankfully my cardiologist, neurologist, and pcp worked together and put me on an animal based keto diet. My heart, brain, cholesterol, triglycerides, bloods sugars, and weight were fixed by this sustainable diet and I’m off most of my meds. I’m no longer high risk for heart disease. 🙏♥️
It's great to see some of the medical industry finally getting rid of some of its dogma.
To be in line with science you don't go off of old studies, but up to date ones, and the current science shows keto is healthy.
Also, fwiw on keto its easy to get a lot of fiber if you do modern bread recipes. Checkout 'I Don't Sugar Coat' 's white bread recipe. It's got tons of fiber in it and tastes better than store bought white bread. No almond flour, coconut flour, or whole wheat taste, just a whole lotta fiber replacing carbs. The future of keto is recipes like this one, lots of fiber, simply because they taste the best.
@@Danielle_1234 Thanks for the info, I’ll check that out! I used to eat a ton of salads and veggies on keto, but had to cut back significantly because of the oxalates. I had kidney stones for years on a low fat high plant diet, and keto fixed that…once I cut out the large amount of veggies!😄 I haven’t really missed fiber in my diet, but I love finding new recipes, so thank you!
You are thanking doctors for trying to kill you ??????????????
KETO ???????????
RIP !!!!!!!!!!
@@herbbowler2461 Did you read my comment? How exactly is it harming me? Honest question. If keto was killing me I would stop. When I was low-fat and plant based I was getting sicker, fatter, and my bloodwork was terrible. I listen to the doctors who give me advice that works. I’ve been told by many people that I’m killing myself now that I’ve lost weight, gotten off meds, and have great bloodwork. It can be hard for us to believe the evidence right in front of us when we’ve been told the opposite from birth. I had zero faith that keto would work. I only agreed to do it to prove my doctors wrong so they would move on to a better treatment plan. I was shocked and delighted to be wrong.
So true
No. 1 glass of day is NOT good for your heart. There is no "J" shape in the mortality curve, it's linear. More alcohol (of all kinds) is associated with more negative outcomes. The only reason why people who abstain from alcohol APPEAR to have higher mortality is because many people abstain because they ALREADY have health issues.
Because of this, researchers used to believe people who drink, but rarely, were the healthiest populations. But when you account for the above, it's actually the abstainers who have the lowest mortality related risk profile.
Yeah, also the concept of drinking wine everyday and just drinking everyday in general is pretty weird to me.
@@thereisnofinishline5773 exactly. Not all "surprisingly counterintuitive" research findings like "drinking alcohol is good for you, actually" are true.
And a lot of those people who currently abstain from alcohol were once heavy drinkers. Abstaining from alcohol can be extremely beneficial to your health but it can’t completely undo decades of alcohol abuse
@@boboloko Good point!
@@falsificationism yes this is relatively new knowledge in the field that not all medical professionals have caught up with yet!
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy"
How to: discredit your entire video.
The only way that this is true is if said obese person is actively improving their life & it takes time for it to show outwardly
Actually from a cardiovascular standpoint, some women w/ predominantly subcutaneous fat are not at that great risk.
@@Norse69 they still have high levels of toxicity in their bodies. They are also way more likely to die from cancer, heart disease, and diabetes.
@@Norse69 I know you made this comment quite some time ago, but as a doctor I have to tell you that it’s incredibly difficult for someone to reach an obesity level of body-mass index based on subcutaneous fat. It’s not the same as someone who’s just Overweight.
She probably means in the present moment. Obesity will eventually catch up to you. just like a cigarette smoker who's young can be healthy. But down the line there will obviously be issues.
I was recently diagnosed with dysautonomia with my main symptoms being palpitations, heart racing, and dizziness upon standing. I have to go to a cardiologist every 6 months now and I'm 26. I'm a little overweight but not obese, and I have a pretty healthy and balanced diet. If you have some weird symptoms, don't ignore them! It's good to get on things early to prevent anything really bad from happening.
But also, I want to switch cardiologists because mine only sees me for 2 minutes and seems to be under the assumption that I can't possibly have anything wrong with me because I'm so young. He won't say it, but I know that's what it is. I also told him I'm being tested for EDS and what his opinion was on that. His response was "your arms would be skinner" as if that was the only defining factor...
I'm 26 too. I had some dysautonomia symptoms last year, mainly rapid heartbeat upon standing. Also seemed to develop bloating issues at the same time. I saw a cardiologist who did an ECG, 2D Echo, and a treadmill test which all came out normal except that the heart rate was a little high. The symptoms are still there to some extent but have decreased in intensity. Did anything trigger the dysautonomia in your case?
@@neerajkerkar I've had symptoms my whole life but never as bad as when I had a flare up last year. I think it may have been triggered by an emergency appendectomy that I had, and alongside that I had a severe UTI. I'm wondering if the shock to my body caused the flare up. I had another surgery a few months ago that caused my symptoms to flare up again. I also did find out that I do have hypermobile Ehlers Danlos. I hope you get things figured out and feel better soon!
I died of a heart attack last year. The HA lasted four days from Tuesday to Friday - it felt exactly like a sprained shoulder. The ache was in the joint, nowhere else. I asked the doctor for pain killers as it had been going on for so long and he said go to A&E (ER to Americans) so I did. I had a cardiac arrest about an hour later, I was dead for 8 minutes.
The world-leading cardiology department at Wythenshawe hospital saved my life.
I quit smoking in 2008 and I put on 3 stone. As a naturally skinny person, I believe this was the source of my problem.
Stopping smoking was a fantastic decision for my general health; but I let myself put on weight quickly and that is a huge no-no. It collected in my arteries.
So, my symptoms in their entirety were severe indigestion on Tuesday, left shoulder joint pain all week, and death on Friday.
"I died last year." most people won't ever get a chance to say something cool like that their entire lives
That’s one hell of an opening line.
Welcome back
@@1brigalow Thanks. It's good to be here
How was it? Heaven, hell, or purgatory?
“Obesity is not necessary unhealthily”. Great message doctor.
Part of the Woke mantra. "Fat and obese is beauuuuuuutiful! And you'd better say so!'
Keto can absolutely be done in a healthy fashion (including good for the heart) and can be a sustainable long-term lifestyle.
Clean keto: Grass fed butter, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Grass fed beef, Coconut oil. Dirty keto: margarine, Canola oil, Beef Jerky, Shortening
I do vegan keto. Im back at my college weight. It's like going back in time
“Obesity is not unhealthy”
😂 all other doctors would like a word
Not *necessarily* unhealthy, they're using layman terms here. They're also refering to very specific cases that aren't the common cases.
@@Im-BAD-at-satire Obesity necessarily means being unhealthy, because it’s the accumulation of fat to the point that it leads to serious health conditions, I get what you say that they maybe are rare cases when you don’t get them (I don’t know of any personally), but it’s kind of a paradox saying that being obese is not unhealthy when obesity is defined by health risks.
I think maybe what they were trying to say is that not necessarily less weight means more health, because a lot of “skinny” people can be underweight and anemic, and people that might be a bit overweight can be healthy?
You need to listen back, obviously something wrong with your hearing.
Anyone notice her fscial expression when she said that? Clearly she was being sarcastic.
@@pjp9840 To me it seemed more bothered than sarcastic; like in her mind she was cycling through comments made in the past.
No wonder so many people are dying from heart related disease from these clowns. Haha. These people are still relying on research from the 80s.
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy" will need an elaboration on this one
Being over weight is not automatically unhealthy. Just like skinny and fit is not automatically healthy. You can be skinny or fit, but have internal problems happening. They said your key indicators and internal processes matter more than you weight as a measure of your health.
They probably should have elaborated more, and if they did, the editors should have let it be on the video, the phrase like that alone could be severely misinterpreted.
The only thing I can think of to try to defend that point, is the BMI criteria for being overweight and obese. BMI is calculated with your height and weight, and determines if you have normal weight, are underweight, overweight, and also obesity in most charts I saw.
But it doesn't indicate body fat. So the BMI scale isn't indicated for athletes, and if a body builder with a lot of muscle would take one, they could get overweight and obese results.
So obesity and being overweight means you have a lot of weight for your height, but it doesn't say what's composing that weight.
It's just the common assumption (and also the common factor) that being overweight means it's composed of mostly fat.
@@samhg3658 Yea, I think this is what she most likely meant with that quote, but as you said, it really needed elaboration, and if there was, it should have been kept.
@@imalwaysright Being overweight and being obese are not the same thing. Obesity is a desease, and it's always unhealthy. But you can be overweight and healthy.
Actually, I’ve seen other doctors say the same thing, with the following explanation, as they did in the video: weight is not the *sole* indicator of your health, the things that matters the most are still your lab results and your habits. There’s also a difference between obese and morbidly obese. The way BMI currently works, a lot of people who look perfectly fine may be a bit overweight and people who may look just overweight may be classified as obese. When we talk about obese people in casual conversation, we often mean morbidly obese.
In 1998, BMI was adjusted, causing around 29 million americans at a healthy BMI to be classified as overweight overnight. The classification alone can be misleading. Being obese or morbidly obese will put extra pressure on your joints over time and yes that is bad for you. But a lot of people are overweight and on the lower end of the obese range (according to bmi, not our perception) and have little health impacts, they just dont eat at a calorie deficit large enough to lose weight.
not a keto fan but the saturated fat and eating meat myth won't die because it has been espoused for so long by cardiologists. You need to start demanding these experts give quality scientific references to back up their advice.
People who genetically produce more ldl cholesterol have more heart dissease, the opposite is true for people who genetically produce less.
Population studies show a correlation between ldl cholesterol and heart dissease.
Randomized controlled trials have showed that lowering ldl-cholesterol decreases your chance of a heart attacks. This is true for ldl-c lowering drugs and dietary interventions.
It is undeniable that raising ldl cholesterol raises your risk for heart dissease
@Leanne Wesk it is still a debate how that happens but that doesn't mean that a high ldl cholesterol doesn't increase your risk of heart dissease. You can say that maybe if another risk factor is at 0, that there is no need to worry about ldl cholesterol but for the general population it is something to definitely worry about.
To my knowledge there isn't any research showing that there is one such risk factor that makes ldl not matter anymore. It is a common belief in the medical community that a high ldl itself causes inflammation which causes the ldl cholesterol to build up. I could be wrong though maybe the mechanism they propose is different but something along those lines at least
@Leanne Wesk uhm okay. What point are you trying to make?
@Leanne Weskalmost everyone's cholesterol is too low. The actual normal ldl cholesterol is between 50mg/dl and 70mg/dl almost no one in modern society has that.
Also just having a high ldl cholesterol means that it's very likely that the sub will be high. And what actually matters is the amount of ldl particles not the type
The quality science is that meat is a ssociated with heart disease and not cardiologists saying its not
I love their governmental guideline obedience.
About the eggs, both my doctor and the diet program i was on after heart surgery refered to a study on eggs and cholesterol and both said that cholesterol is not taken up by eating it. They said that yes it does have high chlesterol but many studies have shown that eating eggs do not increase the cholesterol in your body. So are they wrong? Or is this wrong..
Keep in mind, she is an older doctor. You were given more recent advice. This doctor is stuck on decades old advice. Chances are SHE is wrong.
Also, there is a high likelihood that this video was sponsored (either directly or indirectly) by food and drug conglomerates. They don't make money off healthy people.
If you look up these studies most of these are Funded by the egg industry or outdated.
It is very easy to "show" that eggs don't increase blood Cholesterol, for example if your blood Cholesterol is already high, eggs won't increase it much because it's already near the maximum.
The general scientific consensus is that eggs definitely can raise your blood Cholesterol and thus can be harmful for your heart.
@@DaOmaHD Understood. My personal belief, is that eggs are generally not very good for us, but if they raise cholesterol, it is not because they are high in cholesterol. I believe the larger variable, is the health of the chickens. Chickens are omnivores, and mine even PREFER meat. The fact that egg manufacturers brag about vegetarian fed chicken eggs is a travesty on two fronts.... The ignorance of the public, and the boldness of the conglomerates to rely on that for advertising. The poor health of the chickens, the most inefficient digestive system in the animal kingdom, and food chosen based on cost, leads to eggs that cause health problems.
My understanding is that newer, more unbiased studies show that overconsumption of certain carbs and sugars are a larger contributing cause of high cholesterol.
All that said, who knows for sure this day in age. Hard to test ANYTHING when EVERYTHING is in constant flux. Doesn't the reliability of "science" depend on constants?
@@derek2593 other than trusting the scientific consensus or doing hundreds of hours of research (if you’re lucky with source material), it is really easy to get misinformed or misinterpret study results.
There are many factors when it comes to heart disease like genetics, environment and lifestyle, bodyweight, smoking but diet is probably the largest factor that we can change ourselves.
As the video said, Whole Foods plant based diet has been shown to do really well in preventing and even treat CVD.
@@DaOmaHD my bias and arrogance is mostly because I have healed myself through diet when I thought all was lost... Mostly keto based pescararian. I actually believe that is good generic advice. I just wish people would eat less soy, among other things (transglutaminase, etc.) on these plant based diets. Some of the most dangerous chemicals in food, are in well marketed consumer vegan products.
Lost 130 lbs 4 yrs ago on keto. My blood chemistry is followed regularly and am doing really well. Cholesterol corrected as did bp etc. So either I’m an anomaly or you’re incorrect.
Yup. They are making generalizations. Losing 100 lbs when you're obese is better than whatever alternative they're spewing.
They’re not incorrect and you’re not an anomaly. Like she said, Keto can certainly lead to weight loss. However many people do Keto in the worst possible way by consuming tons of animal products. Doing Keto the right way often means you’re just eating a lot more whole and unprocessed foods. Congrats on your health improvement!
You’re not an anomaly. My doctors put me on this diet in 2019 and I’ve had the same results. My numbers got even better when it was mostly animal based. I listen to the doctors whose advice works!👍👍
@@malloryscrain animals is what people used to eat for hundreds of thousands of years, our body is adapted to meat diet. You can not feed a tribe with berries nuts and mushrooms, they are all seasonal things that do not grow all year long.
@@snowsnow4231 I never suggested you shouldn’t eat meat. I eat it myself, just not in excess.
I’ve been eating Keto/carnivore for the past two months and my cholesterol has been dropping. LDL 2 years ago was 253, no it’s 178. Still high, but much lower than it had been. Joint aches no general fatigue gone. I’m going to continue eating this way. These two are out of touch
Your cholesterol levels are irrelevant though and most high fat low carb WOE peeps know this.
these drs are living in the 90s.....
@@bryanv4835 The one on the right is a vegetarian. She doesn't even eat eggs.
Similar experience here! 👍🏽😉
@@mjshaheed right? Still buying into the low fat junk. Also that sat/animal fats are bad when humans were perfectly fine eating those for generations. It wasn’t until the 60s when phony studies said animal fat bad and carbs good that Americans started getting chronically sicker and sicker
My girlfriend suffers from PCOS for all her life, took Metformin and suffered until ahe found Keto and intermittent fasting, lost 50kg, cured thts CURED her pcos, in the best shape of her life now, cut out all the processed food, carbs especially sugars, ate Tons of vegetables, grass fed pasture raised meats and butter, fish. She eliminated vegetables and seed oil and started consuming saturated fats. So these two doc can stfu, if she followed ur advise she will still be overweight and relying on Metformin.
I don't think you can cure pcos
@@alexandracharlton5092 so we just imagined tht we cured the pcos ?
@@danijelajurcic2980 nobody asked u to believe me, u can be overweight and take Metformin all ur life if tht makes u happy.
A recent study found that intermittent fasting can help women with PCOS, so I believe you. These speakers don't seem very familiar with the keto diet.
I've had symptoms of angina regularly for the last 6 months. My doctor says that angina is "impossible" for my young age. Couldn't have built up enough plaque in my blood vessels, she claims - especially since I only get symptoms after blood donation, after hot showers, or rest - not while exercising. I believe I have Prinzmetal's angina - but I'm so done and traumatized by being called a faker, so I'd rather die at home than going back to being scorned again.
I would try getting a second opinion! Don’t let some rude doctors shy you away from getting good and proper care and addressing your concerns
Oh brother, just get a different doctor and insist on tests.
Yea I can't stand it. I was at like 30 doctors. By now I just live with the shit going on with my body and accept that I'm gonna stay feeling awful till I die probably at young age. My bloods are good. I just feel absolutely terrible and symptoms are unbearable. Only because I'm not fat and not old they just discard me or try to give me another prescription to just yeet me out of the office. The whole medical system is nonexistent. You're just never aware of that until you actually get some prolonged issues.
Please, don’t stop fighting. Document when it happens for a few months, and go see a different doctor. I understand how you feel because I myself have been brushed off so many different times with my own medical issues. Documenting helps, so just seeing a different doctor and being annoying and telling your problems over and over again and being what my family calls a squeaky wheel.
@@BlinkOnWheels True
Don’t women present with different symptoms for heart attacks than men? Isn’t there a link to heart problems and usage of certain birth control? Appreciate the content stressing better diets, physical activity and avoiding smoking/alcohol overconsumption but wish it was a bit more thorough with regard to differences in how men & women differ in risks/symptoms.
Yes. There is a strongly dimorphic aspect to heart problems. These two women said that sex should not be considered regarding heart attacks, but I think they really meant that heart attacks can be equally serious in both sexes. They only said one complete falsehood (that 'obesity is not necessarily unhealthy' - wrong, obesity IS always unhealthy, without exception), but they came close several times by not clarifying or offering details. This perhaps is the result of the editing.
Women do tend to present with different symptoms than men for a myocardial infarction, though there are different TYPES of MI's that do present slightly differently as well, usually the location of the discomfort. GENERALLY SPEAKING, men tend to feel "pressure" or "shortness of breath," usually in the front of the chest under the sternum, or slightly to the left; the location of the heart. Women, however, tend to feel it in their backs or their shoulders. Common symptoms are a sudden feeling of impending doom, jaw pain, (usually left) arm pain, a feeling like strong heartburn or acid reflux, and flatulence. You can have other symptoms of comorbidities before you experience a heart attack, like a headache that wraps around the head like a halo (high blood pressure), or weakness or dizziness (some diabetic issue, either hypo- or hyperglycemia, or diabetic ketoacidosis) as well. Some people also report feeling a tingling in their fingertips (due to lack of circulation).
Birth control pills can put you at increased risk of stroke, blood clots, etc., but not all types of birth control have this effect.
@@b.calvinsaul1909 I wonder if the healthy obesity was the one where you have increased muscle mass, since according to the BMI, you're still considered overweight or obese.
Although this exception is almost negligible and I fear it might make people think obesity is okay.
yes
I was diagnosed with borderline high cholesterol 15 years ago and the doctor immediately prescribed statins. There was absolutely no mention of lifestyle or diet and that's the problem with doctors they are obsessed with remedies and not cures.
That's what dietitians are for
More like symptomatic treatments which don’t address the underlying cause of the disease. So many diseases and health conditions can be prevented, eliminated or at least greatly ameliorated simply by eating an ancestrally appropriate diet (i.e., eliminate grains and refined carbohydrates, eliminate alcohol, eliminate seed oils).
@@JohnnyAmerique and how are tou going to get your diet the same as those of our ancestors? Where do you get your meat? Do you hunt all of it? Because if you don't you eat farmed meat which is 4 times higher in fat, that is a massive difference.
Just because something is unnatural doesn't mean it's unhealthy and vice versa. It's an appeal to nature fallacy.
And humans have also made genetic adaptations to agriculture
@@samvandervelden8243 Do you think that 150 years of eating processed food has done the human race any favours?
If you think animal fats are unhealthy you need to do some research into how unhealthy vegetable fats are?
@@alangardner8596 alright give me the evidence
When she said "obesity is not necessarily unhealthy" she lost me right there and then.
And the other one. So if I am on cholesterol free diet, would it mean my cholesterol will be low? 🙄
They may be referring to BMI, tho they didn’t specify, someone could be perfectly healthy but if they have high amounts of muscle, they could be considered to be overweight or obese according to BMI but not physically look overweight and not have any health issues.
@@loganhull3758 obesity is obesity. It needs no qualifier.
May cholesterol and saturated fat isbn't making everyone fat.....Ancel Keys lied!
@@loganhull3758 You can always use waist to height ratio because muscle is more mass.
In direct answer to your question, no, because cholesterol is essential for the functioning of the mammalian body. If you don't eat any cholesterol your body *has* to synthesize all the cholesterol it needs.
The body makes most of its essential cholesterol, anyway. Consume more, the body produces less; consume less, the body produces more. It's very simple.
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy" In what sense? The vast majority of health issues are because of or exasperated by being overweight.
I don't know all that much about BMI but that's what they measure for obesity is if your BMI is over 30. The Rock is obese by this standard and I'd say he's pretty damn healthy. I think they meant in some contexts it's not automatically bad? Correct me if I'm wrong, that is what I got from that sentence
@@tokitaohmasbathwater2831 the rock is probably slightly unhealthy,too much muscle also puts more pressure on the heart,besides he also takes steroids so....probably not that healthy.
"Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy"
What a quote.
@@Dimitris_Balf what?! 😂😂😂
@@Dimitris_Balf from the CDC;
Health problems associated with being too fat.
All-causes of death (mortality)
High blood pressure (Hypertension)
High LDL cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, or high levels of triglycerides (Dyslipidemia)
Type 2 diabetes
Coronary heart disease
Stroke
Gallbladder disease
Osteoarthritis (a breakdown of cartilage and bone within a joint)
Sleep apnea and breathing problems
Many types of cancerexternal icon
Low quality of life
Mental illness such as clinical depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders4,5
Body pain and difficulty with physical functioning6
Obesity is defined as a Body Mass Index (BMI) of greater than 30.
BMI is a ratio of height and weight.
There’s no definition of what your Mass is composed. A naturally heavy set stalky weight lifter can be obese (BMI>30), but will be healthier than a person with normal BMI, who doesn’t exercise and eats poorly.
BMI is quick guide for doctors to see what health problems you may have based on your height and weight. It generally works for most people, but it is still an imprecise measure of overall health.
@@genek2384 obesity is better to find as a body fat percentage for non-athletes. If it's above 30 and you are "fat" then it's a problem. In certainly not healthy, especially long-term.
@Jimmy Francis: I agree that body fat percentage is a better indicator. There are home scales that can measure body fat percentage, but the ones I’ve used required standing on the scale with bare feet for the body fat feature to work.
I don’t think that’s something people would be okay doing at a doctors office. Going bare foot on a scale used by dozens of patients a day.
Otherwise, I think calculating body fat percentage requires more time and effort to determine.
BMI is a quick way to get a somewhat meaningful ratio with two measurements a doctor’s office can do easily, which is getting height and weight with conventional scales.
Love the laughably incorrect blanket statement of the Keto diet. As someone who became morbidly obese and struggled on every other "nutrition plan" out there, Keto is what: reversed my type 2 diabetes, got my sh*tty cholesterol under control and made me lose 100lb in the first year with ZERO exercise. Of course you don't strictly JUST eat meat and eggs, you eat healthy fats and vegetables that don't impact your glucose, which is what I do and am the healthiest/happiest version of myself I have EVER been.
Edit: Metabolic health is as different for everyone as everything else that makes us different as human beings. Low carb isn't for everyone. High carb isn't for everyone. We're not all identical.
@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace I just wish that doctors acknowledged that the metabolic health of people varies as much as anything else about humans. And being that my ancestors were European, mixed with in-the-now inflammatory disease I was born with, I don't handle ANY carbs well, even the "good/complex" ones.
You at more of a species appropriate human diet. ZOMG you're gun die now ;)
She literally said what you are saying yet you are angry at her? Wtf.
They didn't even talk about the fact that not eatting carbs at all can pucmt stress on muscles that are working non-stop and need energy all the time like... The heart.
@@Ignasimp I'm gonna take my dietary advice from my body and not from someone trying to cope because they can't quit carbs.
@@jatika281 😂 cope about what? I'm sure I'm thinner, healthier and more fit than you.
You shouldn't take your dietary advise from your personal biased experience. You should take it from experts on the topic.
Not one word about sugar and insulin. Unforgivable
Literally mention carbs and sugar 2 minutes in, keto child.
@@bleh329John was talking about glucose levels, genius, not actual table sugar. These two women said nothing regarding either. John is right.
@@NexusNinekeep crying
@@ezequielgomez7657 no need to cry when I was right. Looks like you're the one who's bit salty. Hold on, let me get my mug.
There are several studies that shows a relation between obesity and health problems. Although I understand the point that obese people can be healthy, statistically it's not the case and they can be sending a very bad message. Obesity is a serious issue in healthcare.
This was a terrible, very dangerous message. If you look COVID data, obesity is the main factor to end up in the hospital... It's not about stigmatize obese people, but you're not making anyone a favor by hiding how dangerous is to be obese.
I think if they used overweight not obese it might fit better. Like a overweight person can be more fit, get less out of breath than a thin person who rarely exercise. But with obesity I believe it becomes much more rare.
No one's hiding risks of obesity. In fact most general practitioners you go to will weigh you and suggest weightloss even if your bmi is slightly elevated. What is going under the radar and what most haes advocates are saying is how doctors hyperfocus on weight and ignore that a patient's symptoms might be related to something else entirely. The main point in combating this stigma is that you need an unbiased and wellrounded evaluation by healthcare professionals in order to know whether someone is healthy or not. Basing health on one variable is just too basic for biology.
Statistically, it means you're more likely to be unhealthy, not that you definitely are.
It’s 2022 and she said to only eat the eggwhite and not the yolk. Bye!
She said keep the egg yolk in moderation not stop eating it.
Well perhaps Food giants need to sell more meringues?
.Except .. hang on, wood cellulose as a filler is cheaper than egg white, an ppl never complain, so not "wooden" meringues,
She's just not got past the 80's Hollywood cliché, "just an egg white omlette"
@@kittyisthecutestofall no you should not separate it and eat both parts because it’s nutritious. Saying to eat things in moderation isn’t helpful at all for people who don’t even know what that means. You should eat most things in moderation so what’s new?
@@Mik6ne What do you mean what's new? Doctors repeat it every single time. Also, I eat the egg white and yolk. So what seems to be your problem with that?
@@kittyisthecutestofall what are you talking about? Nobody cares how you eat your eggs. Read my comment again.
The only diet advice she said that is undeniably good advice is … don’t need that hamburger bun.
It’s refined carbs that are killing us… Not saturated fat… Unless you mean saturated fat combined with refined carbs… A very bad combination.
4:11 confused me, so I looked it up. Egg yolk has significantly more protein on a gram by gram basis, but since there is usually a greater volume of egg white to yolk in each egg, there's overall usually more protein in the egg white.
Eat whole foods. Go outside and play daily. That's it. I eat a balanced diet with whole animal product, whole egg, whole milk. There is NO need to be plant based or take the yolks...also known as the flavor...out of your eggs. You're going to be far better off learning to cook with whole ingredients and growing some of them in a garden if you can.
But the cholesterol has 30% next to it!! For real though, nutrition labels in america, especially with the “recommended amount” bs is really annoying. Learn about nutrition and your macro/micro needs, and make the decision for yourself
@@tylerrose4416 your body produce 2-3000 mg cholesterol per Day, When you get cholesterol trough your diet, your body is smart enough to produce less cholesterol. So enjoy your eggs with the yolk. It contains all vitamin except vit. C.
OK video but it was mostly focused on diet.. would have loved to see more on exercise, body type/weight, stress, sleep, etc which are just as common factors as diet
Yeah that’s the point - diet has the biggest impact on heart health, and clearly many myths about it. That’s literally what the video is discussing….
It’s primarily caused by poor diet.
You think they have a clue? Most of the information they gave out is wrong, what do you expect from mediocre medical school graduates? They're just blah blah blah repeating what they've been told at school or by big sugar and pharma. They do zero research, literally.
Which some of the diet advice was wrong...
And genetics
I’m in my mid-30s and quit (chain) smoking after 15 years when I got covid and was scared to death believing I was dying.
Haven’t smoked a cigarette or anything else for three months.
Where there’s a will/motivation, there’s a way.
I also started doing exercises and while I basically haven’t moved and weighed 110 Kilograms, I got down to 100 in 2 months with a healthier diet like described in the video, also no sugar like soda pops or sweets and 10.000 steps a day.
I’m just beginning on my new journey but I can already feel and see the positive changes which gave me a motivation I never knew.
I hope it’s not too late and that I can get back on my feet. The fear of heart insufficiency is looming but I’ll keep it going hoping for the best.
Of all the comments here, yours has the most (dare I say it?) 💜. Wish you success.
@@IMeMineWho
Aww, thank you so much for saying that. ☺️
Actually after 6 months now I have lost 30 kg, I am still not smoking and want to keep it that way and at the checkup with my cardiologist last month he said that my blood work came back with fantastic results. Liver and heart look better than ever.
I have gradually been increasing my daily walks combined with jogging to 10-15km a day and am going two days a week to the gym for 1 hour with a health specialist.
Now that autumn and winter are around the corner getting cold will prevent me from going out everyday for such long walks or runs but if I can keep my healthy diet and my current weight through the winter I’ll be happy. :)
My cardiologist is happy with my keto and intermittent fasting and said I can have all the bacon and eggs I want. Eggs do not raise blood cholesterol I wish doctors would get educated on the new science. Lots of things in this video I think they get wrong.
They are probably incentivized to say that.
I found the reduction of carbs on the keto diet for me very helpful. As I was pre diabetic. But in general it's a restrictive diet, so I made some modifications. It helped me through a bad health situation and now I keep some aspects of it.
People love keto bc they think it equals eating bacon in excess. It just depends on what you are making it to be. I'm eating a high protein vegan diet and losing tons of weight, finally. High protein and plant based seems to be really healthy but the word keto for most people is what they said- tons of meat. And that's not healthy.
@@winterrrsea1674 The doctor I got my keto advice from, would say vegan keto is the healthiest. Pescatarian keto is a close second.
Bacon has about a gram of sugar per slice. People think they can eat a whole pack of bacon on keto, but bacon is too high in sugar. And be aware that if a single serving (1 slice) has almost a gram of sugar, but not more than a gram, they are allowed to round down to zero on the nutrition label.
@@winterrrsea1674 You ended with a slogan rather than science, please educate us about obtaining say omega 3s, Vit D3, balanced amino acids and high protein from what is widely seen as a high carb low-fat option.
To get you started, l use a lot of coconut oil but can no longer obtain it in with an organic certification. However this goes against my countervailing desire to source my food locally, l don't like taking food from a source where it may have deleterious impacts on vunerable populations.
So anyway, putting that to one side, please continue with your vegan keto diet plan, you may actually help a lot of people, if you can bring the science...
@@veronica_._._._ Why do I have to educate you lol? There's a plethora of information online done by reputable scientists. Go look at that. Do your own research. I have a baby and a family and a life. I watched this video in a spare moment of free time and made a comment. I don't owe the world anything.... you're super welcome to look up your own information and it would benefit you to do that for sure. No one's paying me to do all that leg work and I don't have time to supply you with all these sources. My anecdotal proof and living evidence as a high protein sustainable vegan of 14 years isn't enough for you. That's valid. But look up your own studies.
@@winterrrsea1674 So, you were bluffing,😉
A high protein low carb vegan wholefoods diet doesn't exist. It's a unicorn.
So B 12? Omega 3? Iron? Calcium? etc etc etc Mere details? 😂
If you had devised a scientifically researched peer reviewed and trialed vegan keto diet, that would have been brilliant! and l mean that sincerely, (l myself am sorted thanks, and your patronage was deliciously ironic in the circumstances)
When MDs try to do science its always worthwhile to be very cautious as they usually have no idea what they are doing - they are trained to remember human disease symptoms, but are not trained on how to establish a meaningful scientific study. We have PhDs for that. Case in point: at 11:22 she claims that the vegan diet reduces LDL, but the paper she puts up clearly says this was non-significant. Combined with the next sentence in this paragraph, their study showed that there were NO significant differences in any of the parameters tested! So either they are trying to hide their result that the vegan diet showed no statistical relevant benefit by flashing their little study for a second so you can't read anything, or they have no idea what statistical significance means. Or maybe both ....
Aw :( but the vegan diet still does that
@@hata6290 Except a high animal meat combined with fiber does faster, more thoroughly, faster and for life.
@@mdskydive7245 high animal diet reduces cholesterol? Rofl
@@ignacio2763 Not saying it reduces cholesterol, however with a rounded diet the cholesterol is in effect of little consequence. The body takes care of that quite efficiently as has been shown time and again in thorough studies and in my own blood work.
@@ignacio2763 And of course let us not forget the need for cholesterol intake for a healthy body.
I come from a family doctor's including cardiologists and I must day doctor's are extremely narrow minded unwilling to accept anything they were not taught in medical school.
They say Keto or Keto like diet is not sustainable, there are many many people on a high fat and animal protein diet. I am thriving on it in fact.
But keto is not sustainable for the long run. It has shown that it has bad impact on your health. Carbs are the normal source from where one gets energy, and proteins and fats made to give muscle and protect the body, if proteins is used for giving energy then there is no one make the muscle components, which later on has serious consequences
@@River-fz3dg you are so wrong, fat is the natural source of energy.
@@berikco Actually you'd be incorrect on that one. The process burns fat. That is not the same as the fat causing the burn.
I’m borderline type 2, I’ve lost 16 lbs on the keto diet. I’m 57, and though my cholesterol is high, I’ll be taking a test to check if there is any buildup in the arteries. I am very active. Since being on the keto diet, I went from taking 4 meds and now down to one. The keto diet has worked for me.
Yup. I wasn't there yet, but I was close. No meds for me thanks to keto. These doctors are just liars or ignorant, or corrupt with the med companies.
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I wish I saw this video before. I went on mostly animal fat keto diet for 18 months (I lost nearly 10kgs) but had a major heart attack as a result, undergoing angioplasty that involved 3 stents. 😥
Are you sure it was a result of Keto? Could there have been other factors that would have possibly caused or contributed to the heart attack?
@@Sycle24 dude, 18 months of saturated animal fats and no fiber... doesn't take a cardiologist to figure this one out.
@@Sycle24 Continual consumption of saturated animal fats and cholesterol leads to atherosclerotic plaque buildup, which will eventually lead to heart disease. But you’re right, maybe these cardiologists haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about 🤦♂️
@@TheoGregoire ah yes because we’ve been eating animal fats for hundreds of year but suddenly in the 1970’s they became bad for us because a man by the name of ancel keys told us they were based of his sketchy science that was cherry-picked heavily? Studies such as the Framingham diet study and the Puerto Rico heart health program demonstrate very well that there is no direct causation between saturated fats (animal fats) and heart disease. Key word is causation (association is not the same thing). The reason why I am asking external factors is because context matters. When president eisenhower had a heart attack, they examined his diet and noticed he ate quite a bit amount of saturated fat. But you know what else he did? Smoked a pack of cigarettes a day, and ate refined carbs along with the fats. Eating fats along with carbs leads to a process called restrifaction (don’t know how to exactly spell it sorry) where your body will be able to store the fat from your food away because it’s accompanied with carbohydrates. Now we’re supposed to eat heart healthy foods such as vegetable oils and plant based foods and whole grains when these foods are likely heavily processed. Great people like Dr Jason fung, Gary Peters, Robert Lustig, are trying to open peoples eyes and see the lie they have been fed by the sketchy science with the food and sugar industry supporting it. Our ancestors have been eating animal fats since they were hunters, and many Inuit tribes live virtually just on animal fats and they have the lowest incidence oh heart disease ever. You know what keys did with this? Disregarded it and focused on the 7 countries that he could only use to support his hypothesis. It was never the fats, but the refined carbs and sugars that caused heart disease, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and, recently there is strong evidence of these refined carbs and sugar affecting the likelihood of cancer and Alzheimer’s. I do hope more people would look into these issues because they are very real and very big.
@@Sycle24 Also, there are ways to get fiber into the diet while still eating low-carb. Chia seeds have a lot of fiber. Nuts and seeds have fiber. Raspberries are a good low-carb high fiber fruit, etc. Keto doesn’t have to be just animal fats either. Coconut, extra virgin olive, and avocado oils are all good to have. Non starchy veggies are eaten as well. I have only just started a temporary attempt at keto (I don’t think I could do it long-term, yet also don’t want to go back to my old eating habits). If I can lose some more weight and and get my blood sugar levels into the normal range, then eventually, I would like to try to up my carbs a bit more but still keep it lower than before most days.
I was skeptical when they blatantly blamed animal products and promoted vegan products instead of processed foods and sugar.
I was even more skeptical when they said eggs increases cholesterol.
I lost faith when she said "being obese doesn't mean you're unhealthy".
I was thinking the same thing. Old thinking.
This is what the literature shows, my friends.
You are not "skeptical". You are experiencing cognitive dissonance.
Mostly plant-based is the best overall option for health, especially when it is well-planned.
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia animal products were never the issue. The cholesterol she was talking in both red meat and egg yolk is proved to be the ldl cholesterol which is actually good to control hdl cholesterol level which was the actual issue. Ldl cholesterol is also essential for testosterone production which animal products has plenty.
I never said plant based diet is unhealthy. Plant based diet is difficult to integrate in everyone's lifestyle and its better to integrate animal products than completely relying one form of diet.
You seriously can't expect someone to take you seriously when you say animal products are bad for your heart and within few minutes say that being obese doesn't make someone unhealthy. That's literally a contradiction and an actual cognitive dissonance.
@@karthik197 Please back up your quite absurd statements with relevant meta-analyses.
What she said about obesity is not untrue. There are obese people who are quite healthy, in the physical and metabolic sense. Her point was that it's not a black-and-white issue. Looking fit doesn't necessarily mean one is healthy, and vice versa.
She did not claim that obesity is healthy per se, or healthier than having a lower weight.
With the obesity comment, I felt like she wasn’t saying you’re always healthy when you’re obese, I took it meaning that you have to look at the lab levels also. I’m over 200 pounds, but my lab levels look healthy.
You lost me when you said, "Obesity isn't neccesarily unhealthy". It's 100% unhealthy to be obese. I would love a follow up where you explain how being obese isn't necessarily unhealthy.
It's not 100%, but I think they were talking about extremely specific examples; like if someone gained significant fat weight by eating healthy foods while keeping their HDL up, LDL down, cholesterol low, blood sugar low etc. What comes to mind is someone who is training for an endurance event in a cold climate, where they will need excess bodyfat to keep them from freezing to death.
I’ve heard that while most obese people are metabolically unhealthy, there is a subset of obese/ overweight people whose metabolic markers are in the healthy range. They’re not the majority, though. Conversely, there are also people who have normal weight / BMI who are metabolically unhealthy.
I can’t remember whose presentation it was, maybe Dr. Stephen Phinney? Or Dr. David Lustig?
@@miklimecat9636 there are many ways to measure obesity, not only by the BMI standard, other measurements use lean body mass and body fat % to have a more accurate description of health status
exactly. this channel is not science-based, it's buzzfeed with a coat of paint.
My grandpa was obese. I think he didn't have diabetes until he was 80 and he lived to 97. He did not eat much processed food. He ate rice with lots of fish, veggies and broth. I think the rice was maybe the reason why he was obese and he wasn't very physically active .
Ok, you guys know so much more about this subject than I do, however, although I’m not a keto fan but I have high cholesterol 9.5 and I cut out all added sugar and most carbs and when I when to see a specialist my reading had dropped to 6.2? So the specialist asked “what have you been doing” I told him my dietary change and he said “yes we tend to find when people cut out carbs there cholesterol drops”. I was shocked by this and asked “why don’t our doctors tell us this?” I would rather control my carbs than take tablets, his reply was “ doctors are very busy and don’t have the time to have this discussion and anyway most people just want a pill” WTF, so please excuse me if I look as some of the things you say with some disbelief! The pharmaceutical companies run the doctors I’m sorry to say. 🤷♂️ And I don’t take any pills!
My mother had high cholesterol and hypertension and was diabetic. She no longer has hypertension or cholestrol and is on pre diabetic meds. Hopefully she'll kick that too. She eats carbs like rice(not white) breads(no added sugar) etc... She cut out processed food and added sugars... She also eats her fruits instead of drinking them. I dont think carbs is the problem. Its more about the highly processed food and added sugars that's killing people.
@@jonathangeorge787 yes, sugar is Killer the 21st century. But I’m sad to say so is greed, most people in the first world eat to much of the wrong food. I wish your mum all the best with controlling and reversing her illness 👍
Because elevated blood sugar destroys protein including the bloodstream, so will the cholesterol come and heal it. The Randel Cycle will explain it with the low fat or high fat diet.
@@fat8646 thanks for replying. I took a look at the The Randel Cycle and I can see what you mean. However, my other point is given that this is a known since 1963, why don’t doctors tell people that they can influence there cholesterol by limiting carbs and sugars?
Don't worry raptor, this woman has no clue what she's talking about.
What about all the people finding carbs are leading them towards being diabetic? Keto means high fat. Studies about fat being bad are being debunked last I heard.
These ladies are so clueless.
The keto,diet is crazy but I found that there's one good part - eliminating sugar. When I cut out sugar I lose weight easily and I no longer crave food all the time. If I eat sugar it makes me hungry again!
The gross misrepresentation of keto by this doctor makes me question everything else she says. Keto is not an all meat diet. That would be a limited carnivore diet. Even a base carnivore diet isn't just meat. It's anything that comes from an animal. You can be on a keto diet and it be completely plant based. The general keto diet is a mix of meats and vegetables and even some fruits. All keto means is that approximately 80% of your calories come from healthy (natural) fats (yes, that even means animal fats), 15% of you calories come from proteins, and the remaining 5% comes from unprocessed carbs (ie: vegetables). Also, she points to saturated fats and cholesterol as being factors in heart heath. However, there is not one independent study that makes a direct relation between either factors and cardiovascular disease. I am not claiming that keto is the best diet for heart health, but it certainly isn't remotely as bad as either of them are making it out to be. Obesity is the #1 cause of heart disease, period. There are thousands of studies that back this up. You can loose weight and have a very healthy and sustainable diet based on keto. After going on keto myself, most of my risk factors for poor heart health went away and the remaining ones where slowly disappearing as my weight (fat) continued to drop. I would have thought a science channel would validate the claims of the people it brings in and not put forth doctors with such clear biases. Not very scientific of you.
Agreed. They display a complete ignorance of properly done Keto. When they showed a frying pan full of sausage and country ham, I knew they were out of touch with reality.
@@1518joefil1 Exactly! Granted, it did look good ;) and is completely keto friendly, but it's not what we eat all day every day. That might be one meal or part of one meal a week.
These women sound like propagandists… working for the commercial interests of the food and drug industries.
they said its a high meat diet
animal fats arent healthy fats lol
I lost a lot of weight on a high carb diet but I just ate less and fasted and was able to lose 4 lbs a week consistently with very little exercise. It was a good learning experience after carrying a lot of excess weight for a long time. Granted I wasn't working at the time so I was able to experiment that way. I would have not attempted the fasting I did if I was going to work daily through that period. In that case I would've done the things that worked in the pat which were some running and a dramatic drawdown in sugar and red meat and that method worked as well. There's more than one way to lose weight and get fit so I just tell folks to try different things until you find one that produces results and stick with that one if you can until you reach your goal weight and then explore the blue zone diets and lifestyles to maintain good health long term.
I'm just confused. as a type 1 diabetic a form of keto (just slightly more carbs) has worked wonders for me. my A1c went from a 14 to a 5.7 and then 5.8 and has generally stayed in that range. I've actually lowered my insulin intake and only take a long lasting kind (tresiba) and I have complete put down the fast acting insulin. and the only thing I really changed was my diet. now I'm not a scientist or a doctor but surely my diet isn't great for diabetes but horrible for my heart?
A ketogenic diet, which is not one single thing, like you said (slightly more carbs?), can help with bloof sugar control. But so do other diets. Most of the science boils down to what you actually eat. There is no food product called Keto. There are vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts, meats, fish, dairy...
Carbs are not one food group as well. Fruit, legumes and whole grains are carbs, as are isolated (cristallized) sugars.
The goal for continouus health is to hit most marks, not just specific ones, like blood sugar profile.
I believe you when you say that this diet works great for your (YOUR, specifically) diabetes type 1.
But if your chosen diet prevents you from consuming fruit, veg, legumes, whole grains, nuts and seeds in sufficient amounts, you will most likely have an elevated risk profile for diseases of vascular origin (incl. cardiac and neuronal) and certain gastrointestinal diseases (often relating to a lack of fiber).
Depending on what you actually eat, a regular intake of known carcinogens, like meat, raises your lifetime risk of cancer.
Talk to your endocrinologist/cardiologist/GP if you have questions about diet related health, the internet is a suboptimal source for non-professionals.
I think what these ladies are confusing keto with is the carnivor diet. Keto is NOT against nuts veggies and seeds. As veggies go it is starchy ones like potatoes that have a lot of carbs and so are unhealthy. Leafy veggies are an important part of a keto diet. That they didn't bring up how important insulin is to everyone's diet was a little upsetting. Our metabolism turns unused carbs into fat and that is worse than eating butter with your choice of protein. Fasting is also an important part of keto, which keeps your body from using insulin at all. Ultimately it's carby grains of any kind that cause so many problems for many people and should mostly be had from leafy greens and non sugar dairy.
@@ryangilchrist6071 I'm guessing what you mean by "how important insulin is" the carbohydrate insulin model. That's falsified again and again.
Furthermore we have trace studies where fat comes from. The fat from carbs is in a very clear minority.
Whole grain consumption is associated with a linear increase of longevity. Saturated fat consumption is associated with a linear decrease in longevity. The only carbs that are associated with a decrease in longevity at every consumption level like saturated fat are refined carbs.
Surprisingly dark leavy greens plateau like all vegetables with their increase if longevity. Whole grains do not plateau.
Overall your opinion seems not to be based on scientific evidence but mechanistical hypotheses which were already falsified, but for some reason are popular online.
I'm going on a keto diet and I just had congested heart failure and I want to live longer and I know how good I feIt when i was on keto several years ago I lost 47 lb and 7 weeks doctors don't want to admit keto works because it will cost everyone in their field money in the long run when people start getting healthy,
@@ryennth6329 Or keto works short-term but worsens for example CVD in most cases when done wrong (like most keto people do).
Instead of thinking the majority of medical doctors are out to get you, you could start reading scientific papers and educate yourself in statistics and especially generalisation methods. You're not very critical at the moment. Just the internet-like pseudo-critical.
Btw. I live in the EU. A medical doctor gets paid here in a completely different way (and that depends on the country so there are many different ways to measure the salary in a system that works with a fixed money flow and distributes for the needs of patients not economic factors like higher salary if the number of CVD events are high in capitalistic medicine - aka non-capitalistic medicine). They still say the same things.
this video makes me really sad, this information is just so outdated, just so unfortunate that these experts are so hung up on the whole cholesterol myth
Thank you! I was looking for this…. That cholesterol stuff is just so outdated!
For sure.
Thank you for saying it! This old information is really dangerous. Saturated fat is essential for health and hormones.
We understand the causal connection be cholesterol and heart disease. The connection isn't out dated, it is current scientific consensus. You need to stop spreading this nutritional flat-earth BS.
@@bretbarnes9051 there has never been a causal connection made, cherry-picked observational data from about 70 years ago established a correlation and that’s just about it: Do your own research.
Like most physicians, their knowledge of nutrition and its effect on health seems limited to that one class they took in school 15 years ago. In each of these varied Science Insider series I am finding gross errors such that I had to unsubscribe.
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Agreeeeeeedddddd!!!
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100% true - lots of outdated info here mixed in with the good info.
MDs
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Lol carnivore 3 years and my blood tests and heart are just fine. A lot of doctors disagree with your statements on animal foods
Chest pains. My experience: We were moving house - packing and lugging boxes, furniture, etc, so my arm and shoulder muscles felt stiff and sore, so I didn't bother too much. After a week or so it had not gone away, maybe a bit worse, so I decided to see my GP. He did an ECG and immediately packed me off to hospital. They did an angiogram and discovered I'd had a heart attack, up to a week or more previously, resulting in damage to the ventricular heart muscle and mitral valve which was leaking quite a bit. They inserted 4 stents, and implanted an ICD immediately. After a few discharges they finally got the settings correct on the ICD and I was discharged a few days later (having lost 16 kgs in the process!). Needless to say it was a rather harrowing experience and left me a lot weaker than before. Despite doing daily exercise, I find it very hard to push up fitness levels, and if inactive, lose this almost immediately, to have to start all over. I have had several very short VTs, but not nearly enough to kick in the ICD. I am just exceedingly fortunate to have ended up in the care of one of the best cardiologists in South Africa, Dr Andre Lochner, to whom I owe my life, and could never thank enough!
It is interesting that your GP decided to do an ECG because you had sore muscles. I wouldn't expect that to be the first line of action. Did you have certain risk factors for heart disease that your GP knew about?
@@neerajkerkar I don't really know why he did. Subsequently, it was determined that I had actually had a myocardial infarction up to ten days previously! I think this was determined when I was under unaesthetic for the angiogram, whereafter they inserted 4 stents and the ICD. By this time certain heart muscles had already suffered significant damage, some of which they say will not recover. However, I did recover quite well and have most heart function. The leaking heart valve has also improved somewhat.
How can you, a profesional, say that LDL cholesterol is bad when there is no modern studies that support this?
It's more to do with the ratio of HDL to LDL level. When you have a high amount of LDL compared to HDL that's when you become high risk for heart problems.
@@rosemarieboulton1971 yes it's true but also have to see what kind of LDL. And few doctors do.
“Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol is bad for you”
me: closes video
The moment she said plant based protein over animal based, I knew this was full of bullshit.
Only a few decades ago MDs where telling us which cigarettes where the healthiest, and that margarine was a recommended substitute for butter. The video included no mention of concerns with industrially processed high omega 6 seed oils (which are in nearly everything in the central grocery aisles), claim of "obesity is not necessarily unhealthy", and implicit default to DASH, SAD, standard food pyramid, or otherwise high carb diet which leaves epidemic metabolic syndrome untreatable without pharmaceuticals which present significant tradeoffs at best. There was mention of avoiding "white flour." If a little bran and germ magically transforms otherwise universaly maligned white flour into "healthy" reccomended staple, would sprinkling a little wheat germ and bran on a bacon double cheeseburger similarly accomplish such alchemy?
Man you are crazy, and last time no doc were promoting cigarettes, only few docs get paid to do so, it’s not entire medical promoting cigarettes okay. You are just putting meaningless buzz words together and try to discredit modern diet research.
You are exactly right, Robert. These two females weren't exactly evidence-based in their approach. They had the distinct sound of having opinions that were purchased by a manufacturer or distributor of processed foods.
Imagine talking about eggs, but not talking about low dietary uptake of cholesterol or of the different types of LDL. Their obesity claims were completely irresponsible.
@@rewer I have magazine and newspaper advertisements showing doctors promoting one cigarette brand or another. It is totally factual.
@@rewer I'm old enough to not only remember doctors promoting cigarettes in TV and magazine ads but having candy cigarettes so we could pretend to be adults. No doctors back then discouraged smoking, you could smoke anywhere, even in a hospital unless there was oxygen being used.
"obesity is not un healthy"
okay dude....
If you're going to do a debunked video you need to include links to all the studies that supposedly back up the claims made by your guests.
WOW! In the two minutes about KETO and Eggs there was so much bullshit that I'm not even angry. I'm impressed! And the very brief slides from Heart Association Journal went so fast that I had to pause to read the paragraphs. There it says "NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE", twice, regarding cholesterol and other lipids on VEGAN diet versus Standard American diet. If that's not a facepalm when talking about KETO I don't know what is. And with all due respect to the professor, it seems that her knowledge of nutrition and metabolism is limited to what is taught in the med school.
Agreed, Keto done right is absolutely heart healthy, and cocunut oil, full of saturated fats, is healthy as well.
IKR! I was like wth!
Nutritional needs are hereditary. After traveling the country and world I can tell you that the people who settled, survived, and thrived in a particular region, we're the ones that did so with the food available there.
The ones that did not do so well there,... Did not survive and thrive, and therefore did not reproduce
HDL ID 56. LDL IS 100. Don't smoke or drink. Have had 2 heart ablations for PSVT. On beta blockers. And only 36. Started with PSVT symptoms at the age of 18. So you're never too young to think about your heart.
Damn I’m sorry man, that’s actually saddening. Still, I hope you’re doing good :)
Plz consider Keto and Intermittent Fasting
@@malaysianman5941 it's sad so many people do it wrong, then get complications, then blame it to keto
i've been on it for a year now, still waiting for my heart attack
@@DJmisterpeluca exactly!!! They think Keto means eating lots of fried fast food jeeezzz ... All the best in your health journey buddy.
How is your thyroid function? All of these ailments can be due to thyroid hormonal imbalance.
The good doctor has drawn bad conclusions around TMAO. Assuming that the video is shot on 2022, research released in 2020 has debunked the idea that animal protein leads to TMAO.
Additionally her point that saturated animal fat leads to cholestrol is also faulty, as dietary cholestrol doesn't transfer to bloodstream cholestrol. Our body manufacturers it's own cholesterol and sugars raise cholesterol, specifically LDL.
Unfortunately your assumptions are all incorrect. Get a subscription to pubmed and read all the peer reviewed studies on TMAO formation,saturated fat and production of cholesterol, oxidised cholesterol.
@@sid35gb will you show me yours if I show you mine 😅
I am talking about references, you 😏
@@sid35gb pubmed? are you serious?
@@Goldenhawk583 as opposed to what?
@@nativeyo They are just not a reliable site, I thought everyone knew that , and triple checked what they say, thats all.
Ain’t no way she a cardiologist and saying obesity isn’t necessarily unhealthy 💀💀💀💀
It's this toxic Health at every size agenda. It's disgusting.
I believe she's talking about folk who have more peripheral fat rather than visceral fat like sumos. But still even that can lead to a lot of problems.
Keto got my cholesterol from 8 to 2 after 6 weeks. I can't eat breads pastas carbs heavy foods. They make me prediabetic and increase cholesterol.
YOU ARE PREDIABETIC RIGHT NOW AND ARE GOING TO CONTINUE BUILDING VAST AMOUNTS OF ARTERIAL PLAQUE PLEASE STOP
Lol on the comment about keto. I eat more fiber on keto than I ever ate before. My bad cholesterol is down and good up, triglycerides doen like a baby. I have never been healthier. I went to a nutritionist before keto and, she was so into veganism and because of her I developed severe protein deficiency and ruined my stomach by consuming fruits on empty stomach. People can b**ch about keto, but I am finally healthy. And its the only diet that I can sustain long term.
I think the main point was that a lot of people do keto badly. You'd be surprised at the number of people who go on a keto diet and eat a bunch of processed food, don't incorporate any kind of plant matter into their diet, and then think they're healthy just because they're losing weight. I think there's a lot of myths about keto, propagated by hype men on youtube that say you can eat all of these really unhealthy foods, and yet, be perfectly healthy. Even though, you could go to the doctor and see that your cholesterol is completely out of whack.
Trust me, I did keto for a while. It wasn't for me in the end, but I know full well the kinds of things I ate, and they definitely didn't match the popular perception of decadent, highly-processed foods that are really bad for you.
Protein deficiency? Practically impossible unless you’re starving yourself
@@danieltaylor4185 i think the issues tho is a lot of videos kinda just make a blanket statement saying keto is bad because you eat a lot of processed food and plant based diets have more whole food/ fiber etc. This is not always true, and making people aware that a there is a healthy and clean version of keto just as there are bad vegan plant based diets. Technically u can eat cakes and processed foods like chips and crackers all day and it is still plant based. I have been on keto for over 2 years now and have never ate more veggies in my entire life. My consumption of meat has also not increased. Somehow eliminating most high glycemic carbs have caused me to eat less in general, including meats and processed foods. These videos that are against keto just have too narrow of a definition and it causes many people who would benefit from it to completely look away from the topic. In fact, i will make the argument that it is easier for someone to mess up on a plant based diet rather than a keto one. This is because soo much of the processed products we have on our shelves is technically plant based but are way too high in carbs/ bad fats/ sugar and are highly palatable. As with all diets, i recommend learning to read labels, and cooking for yourself is a big step to controlling what actually goes into your body.
@@ignacio2763 this is true
Unless you drank only water and nibbled celery you were most likely NOT protein deficient. Nobody lives long enough eating “keto” for anyone to claim it’s a healthy diet. They either die or are forced to stop for health concerns. If you eat a wide variety of whole food plants you will likely live a very long disease free life. This will NOT be the case on keto BS!
I stopped watching when they said eggs were assoicated with heart disease. There are so many studies which have debunked this I seriously think these two should stop making videos until they have updated their knowledge a little.
... until they’ve updated their knowledge a LOT. 😒
From my personal experience in an animal based diet for the last year and a half I can't take the "debunking" of keto and eggs seriously. I eat 10-15 ounces of red meat and two hard boiled eggs a everyday. My doctor gives me the same speech every physical as this video. Then after my bloodwork comes in he says I need more HDL in my diet ignoring my LDL results and showing no curiosity as to why I'm not fitting the standard. I do have a very active exercise regiment and a 109/70 BP.
I haven't had any doctor give me any reason beyond "Cholesterol bad" as a reason to avoid an animal based diet prior to having to eat their words at my blood work. I have asked if there are any reasons beyond that because an animal based diet could be bad and if there were evidence of harm I'd alter my nutrition. But from how I feel, how I look, and the actual tests it's not bad for me. I'd have some respect for the "debunking" if they had some nuance to say that nutrition is not one size fits all and plant based is great for some people but not for everyone. It might be fair to even say clean eating (no processed foods) in any form, animal or plant based, is what's healthy.
I am obese and have a 115/70 bp. It could just be good genetics. Get yourself an angiogram.
I’ve had a very similar experience. I finally got to a healthy weight on keto and have felt better than ever from following this guy called Dr Berg on CZcams for a few months. I take a lot of fiber with it and I literally feel amazing. Obviously I’m not an expert whatsoever, but I really think whatever is working best for yourself is a good nutrition plan to follow.
I was looking for this kind of a comment. I think these doctors are going by some formula and not really thinking outside the box when it comes to autophagy or the benefits of a ketogenic diet
Obesity isn’t necessarily unhealthy? For real?? I can understand skinny is not necessarily healthy
this type of nonsense video should be banned - especially the eggs rubbish - this was debunked 20 years ago.
Failed to mention keto diet also involve lot of leafy greens. Its not all bad
(CAC) Coranary artery calcification is prbly a better marker for heart disease than cholesterol
Alex
They clearly have about 1 hour of overall nutrition training because if they had studied any literature they would know that high fat diets can be extremely healthy and the link between cholesterol and staurated fat and heart health has been debunked many times.
“Reservatrol” is how you make an appointment for a wine tasting😊
“Obesity is not necessarily unhealthy “
Sometimes you'll see obese looking people living in far away villages who have never touched proccesed foods. These people get their extra fat, not by eating Macdonalds and Kfc but by eating to much ''healthy'' foods wich is also why these people are still mobile 99% of the time (together with still having to perform tasks like lifting things and walking distances everyday). these people are (internally atleast) pretty healthy
however almost everyone in a first world country that is obese doesn't get their excess fat from ''healthy'' foods and doesn't get any exercise so I see your point but there is indeed a small percentage of fat people that is quite healthy for their size.
@@thereisnofinishline5773 You are incorrect. Fat is fat. Once the body gains enough fat to look "pudgy" (or not quite overweight), the fat cells stop being able to do what they are designed to do (and they are designed to do so much more than just store and release energy). The only reason that fat people in "far away villages" are mobile is because they have to stay that way, or, if they get too fat, they starve until they are that way. Not because of some magical "healthy fat" from a land somewhere over the rainbow. Those people are just as unhealthy as the people of similar weight here. Sure, processed foods and excess processed sugars cause problems, but nothing compared to the 20 lbs of love on your heart, and 45 lbs of crushing gluttony on your lungs.
I have been reading and watching a good number of CZcams videos these last few months on subjects such as fats, cholesterol (identifying HDL as good cholesterol and LDL as bad cholesterol seems to be far too simplistic by not taking into account all the relevant biochemistry), statins, diets, metabolism, good markers for predicting cardio vascular disease (coronary artery calcium scores, HDL/Triglyceride ratios, particle size of LDL’s, insulin resistance), and poor markers for predicting CVD (cholesterol levels, blood glucose levels, stress tests). I am disappointed by some of the information and advice given by this video, however, it is good for people to do their own research and my advice is to make sure that what you are being told is backed up by good research. A good start would be to watch CZcams videos with content by David Diamond, Ivor Cummins, Dr. Pradip Jamnades.
If you want to give your eyes a rest from looking at a screen you could read a book that takes a close look at the pharmaceutical industry called “Bad Pharma” by Ben Goldacre. Doctors, clinicians, consultants and, others in the health and health promotion professions, work extremely hard under difficult conditions and this should be recognised, but it is a little disappointing to find out that the medical profession has allowed itself to be misled, in some cases willingly, leading to the consequence of poor treatment/advice resulting in harm to patients. Good luck with your own research - be prepared to learn a bit about statistics and watch out for misleading statistics such as “relative risk” as opposed to the honest and meaningful “absolute risk”.
THANKS FOR NOT ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY SAYING WHAT IS BETTER OR WORSE AND JUST SAYING TO DO YOUR OWN CAREFUL RESEARCH. GOOD STUFF MAN
actually, i've changed my diet to keto, and im telling what this women is saying is wrong, i did exams before keto, and after 6 months of keto, without telling my docter of course, the docter was really happy for me and suprised how my blood improved in all aspects, ESPECIALLY the CHOLASTEROL,.... guys i'm saying based on my experience of course, but the results are way diferent and show that actually works, its been 3 years now and doing exams every 6 months cause i dont belive in anything at 100%... but been felling excelent, and the results are "clinicly perfect"....
@@hata6290 I took a break from watching videos about different diets etc. but have recently started doing it again and came across another channel I feel I should highlight as it does appear to employ an evidence based approach and to some degree goes against some of the conclusions of the other CZcams videos I mentioned. The CZcams channel is: “Nutrition Made Simple” and the two specific videos are: “Scientist reacts to Carnivore Doctor on Joe Rogan/Part l. There is a second video with the same heading but is Part ll.
@@shadowform1264 I've had similar experiences. Low carb vs a mixed diet my cholesterol improved on low carbs and triglycerides drop significantly on a low carb diet.
Maybe eating enough fat is what slows down ones liver from making too much cholesterol??
@@dansmith9724 i belive so, i just avoid sugar and too much carbs, i dont think about it to much, it just works perfect for me, try to do you, and if you can get your blood checked to see what works perfect... Its just what i did, but keto, low carb is the way for me.
These 2 definitely need to update their knowledge.
Almost everything they said was wrong. The egg yolk is the most nutritious part of the egg. Saturated fat and cholesterol do not cause heart attacks and are actually good for us. Finally, plant proteins are inferior to animal proteins and plant nutrients are far less bio available to humans.
Even the AHA, has changed their recommendations, but these ladies haven't gotten the memo, apparently. 🙄
Doesnt ldl cling to arteries to repair them from damage.
Caused by a poor diet or stress.
"Up to one glass per day of red wine is ok."
You obviously haven't seen my 1.2L wine glass :D
You lost me when you talk about eggs. The enemy is processed foods and oils, carbs, and sugar.
Funny you would go far to defend addicted
Same! People have literally been eating animal products, saturated fats, and poultry for generations and now all of a sudden it’s bad.
We didn’t start battling obesity and all these chronic illnesses until people were discouraged from eating animal products and fats ad encouraged to eat processed sugars, carbs, low-fat and fat free junk. And here we are…
@@natalyaakselaleksander4502 that's bc they used to work hard day and not. Not sit in temperature controlled environments and don't do shit and then eat murdered corpses of animals served on a plate.
@@lisanyugenhascancer6332 yeah well exactly. It wasn't because they were eating low-fat or almond milk that they had healthy hearts. So, the problem here is not eating animal products, it is not burning enough calories. My point still stands that it's not the animal fat that's the problem, it is lifestyle changes and junk food consumption...
Mostly bulltwang!! The issue around eggs and saturated fat has been totally debunked a long time ago! At least they are crediting the good fats. But saturated fats are also good in moderation.
It is high carbs that cause inflammation in the arteries. Sugar is enemy no 1. Eliminate sugar and you have won 80% of the war against clogged arteries. Cholesterol is good for you, for goodness sake. Why else would the liver make so much every day? A newborn baby being breast fed is on 100% keto, getting lots of saturated fats every day!
The brain is 70% fat and 25% cholesterol. Cholesterol not the elephant in the boardroom, metabolic disease is. Anyone who refers to the AHA is per definition way out of date regarding diet.
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Let me try putting this into words you may actually understand.
Ahem, OOGA BOOGA MONNUH MONKOO LOWOW BUNKUH!!
Oh wait, you’re not a caveman because that’s not how they ate nor what humans are supposed to eat now. I promise, a high carb diet is your friend, that’s how we’ve become the humans we are today :D just look at our cute little “canines” 🥺 perfect for leaf tearing
(Sorry this is too much for even me, but seriously, lower cholesterol, saturated fats, omega 6s, added sugars, increase starch, fiber, and antioxidant rich foods 😊 then you’re good)
Hatas are gonna hate?
Mr Ooger Booga is on every thread (CAPS LOCK safety off) attempting to insult people, Your answer covers every possible attempt at a rebuttal in advance and gets OOGA BOOGA as a response?
🤞He leaves his answer up 😂
@@hata6290 Actually our ancestors ate meat year-round, especially in winters because fruits and most vegetables didn't exist in the winter. Even when fruits grew in the summer, it was still seasonal and sporadic as they didn't farm them. So that is pretty much EXACTLY what keto is.
@@hata6290 Sorry sir/ma'am. You are are incorrect
Quit smoking about 2 years ago! Out of cold turkey, and I gotta say there’s no meds or help to quit if one doesn’t want to quit! It’s hard and doable
I’ve been doing the keto diet for the last three years. I’ve gone from 280 pounds to 180 pounds I’m in the best shape of my life. I get a physical from my doctor once a year. I did not have bad cholesterol my triglycerides were good my testosterone was high. I don’t think we all fit in a shoebox I think what is good for someone maybe not good for another we just had to figure out what works well for us. During the keto diet I plenty of green vegetables fruits it in with berries and healthy fats there is a good way to do keto!
And actually, some of us find amazing health by eating NO fruits or vegetables, only meat, fish, and meat products like eggs and butter.
I've heard so much conflicting advice about eggs over the years. From dieticians, what I've generally heard is that overall, eggs are good because they contain a lot of nutrients that can be otherwise difficult to get and are an easy, convenient source of protein and healthy fats. BUT if you are predisposed to high cholesterol or have a genetic history of high LDL you should restrict your egg consumption as much as possible and try to stick to egg whites, which do not contain cholesterol.
And just like every food, eating eggs to excess is not good for anyone.
Very true. I hope more conscientious research is conducted on eggs because the verdict amongst the scientific community basically shifts at a whim.
@@kanjakan The whim of market forces not selling enough eggs drum up the good stories not selling enough of something else eggs bad.
And I also read that cholestérol in the food does not have much impact on the blood cholesterol. For this study, Cholestérol is an anti- oxidant hormone produced when people are too much stressed.
They also say to eat toxic vegtable oils instead of butter and lard because of heart disease. Things have only gotten worse since we made the switch. Maybe its not the reason we are so sick but its a problem and something to research. Never trust anyone. Do your own research and figure it out for yourself. Good luck to you all.
And again they are not interested in making the différence between farmer raised chicken eggs and an emprisonned chicken feed with grains.
And remember since 2018 ou 2020 we know that only 25 % of the cholestérol come from food, 75% is caused by stress as cholestérol is an anti inflammatory hormone to begin with.
Thank you for this video! It helped me a lot! ❤️
There is a lot of controversy around cholesterol these days as it's not as simple as "bad cholesterol vs good cholesterol". I'm all for science myself, but it's not following the scientific method to just take things as fact like these doctors are. These doctors, especially the one of the left, are operating on the dated ideas around cholesterol research that has a lot of controversy and came about decades ago (but are now being challenged over the last few years). I'm not saying they're absolutely wrong, but the picture is much more complex than that and they're just painting it as "good cholesterol vs bad cholesterol". More vetting needs to go into these videos if you're going to have doctors with strong perceived credibility saying things, as it can be quite dangerous with misinformation spreading. People take it as gospel and don't challenge it, hence why there's so much misinformation in diets these days from years of just taking these things at face value from experts. People view fats as bad, view sodium as bad, view cholesterol as bad. All this black and white thinking when things aren't that simple.
yeah, when you look at the statistics for when meat began to be demonized, heart attack rates started going up.
Vegetables are also not as bioavailable as meat, not to mention tends to lack certain nutrients, which is why vegans need a lot of supplements
It's a freaking wasteland for anyone wanting to be 'healthier'. I like almost all wholefoods and I just don't know what's smart to go for. :'')
@@esmee6308 If you're eating whole foods, you're already on the right track. Mediterranean diet gets a lot of praise, maybe start looking there
@@chrischin_94 My diet is probably very close to the mediterranean diet since I eat much like my friends in Spain (even after moving.)
I just find it interesting how most countries have such different eating habits (and there's probably many ways to be healthy). Like NL is very cheese-heavy, as well as dairy, which is saturated fat mostly. Spain much more fish, olive oil, but also a lot of rice and bread. England is my only other long-term experience and that's just a bit of an attack on my tastebuds and intolerances in general. :'')
@@esmee6308 I don't think there's a wrong diet as long as you eat a variety of nutrients in moderation and they come from whole foods. Of course, everyone is different and may need to increase or decrease intake on certain foods
This was posted only 2 months ago. But when was the video filmed? Seems to have really out of date info or old info. I am on Keto/Carnivore for more than a year and I have been taking at least 7 whole eggs a day for more than 6 months and my cholesterol dropped, my uric acid went below normal.
I thought that saturated fats were bad was debunked ages ago?
I go to northwell cardiology! Fantastic doctors!
There was a bit of a disillusioned moment @4:48 when the doctor felt the need to mention that “obesity is not necessarily unhealthy,”-as far as I’m aware per the current recommended guidelines that statement is patently and verifiably untrue.
@@michaelkarayan6652 exactly! She's talking nonsense! Obesity can be healthy sometime?!!
@@michaelkarayan6652 Obesity is not "healthy" it is just that you can live with obesity "almost" as healthy as a normal person by being active. But yeah obesity definitely risens your risks.
@@neerajeswaran4320 very well said
That's awesome. Though fwiw, some of the information they were saying is out of date. Best to always try to keep up to date, especially if it is your profession, which is a challenge in and of itself. Good luck with your studies!
In 2020 the journal of Cardiology published a meta analysis of studies, they concluded that saturated fat has no correlation to heart disease, in fact it has a protective effect! So cant blame her, she was been given bad information. The healthiest people I know eat keto, some of them for over ten years. And they are *significantly* healthy than anyone else I know, some even in their 60s.
And the longest living cultures on the planet eat more red meat than anyone else, if you research and not just accept the first thing you hear, this is what you find. It’s shocking, but only because we’ve been lied to sooo much.
Sugar, grains and seed oils are responsible for the majority of our chronic inflammation. And that destroys the body.
And alcohol is sugar folks. It is a poison. Drink if you must, but don’t lie to yourself 🙌.
You now have a computer in your hand that can access the worlds information. We need to stop following people w degrees, and seek and find truth for ourselves.
Completely agree. When they started bashing meat and eggs I finished with the vid.
Actually countries with the longest life expectancy eat grains as well as meat.
Eating a ketogenic for only ten years won't prove anything.
Sorry, switched off after the warning about high cholesterol in eggs. It's from the 50s. A couple of studies show no correlation between cholesterol intake and cholesterol in the blood. Another wrong mention is KETO means more meat which is wrong!
My blood pressure is 110/70 at 67 years old. I switch between 3 diets all the time, Keto with a lot of veg and small meat portion, then the Mediteration diet and then the normal South African diet with 2 veggie meals per week.