Disliked the video, I'm not here to watch the entire video. Share the final results altogether at the end like an excel sheet or something. Didn't even summarize the results. shame
I noticed the same thing. My 12 Pro was heating up and talking a while to charge with the MagSafe case installed. Seemed to do much better with a direct connection from the MagSafe charger as it could obviously breathe better with more desirable heat dissipation.
I tried charging with my MagSafe on my 12 pro... felt it was too slow and made my phone too hot. Planning on returning and just sticking with the cord!
Great Video so cool to see it with the meter!! I've been working on my own and was about to scrap it when I saw the notification for this one but we're doing it a bit differently so I guess I'll keep working on it lol. Mine shows how long it takes from 0-100% since fast chargers taper down with time and heat. I'm comparing the 5W, 7.5 generic Qi Wireless, Magsafe with 20W brick and 18W since a lot of people have those already and finally 20W fast charging with a lightning cable.
I've got the magsafe charger and 20 watt charging brick, just waiting to pre order the 12 Pro Max 256gb on 06/11/2020! Very Excited! Will be my first iPhone. Been on android from day 1.
@@enricojakobsoriano I like that it's user friendly and it has improved greatly with pics and for sure video. Also everyone I know has an iphone. I can now facetime with others and I know there are other apps you can video call but most are too lazy to download the apps. The new design is beautiful .
Can you please do this same test without the wireless charger. I would like to see the charging speed of the chargers on their own as I’m not interested in purchasing the MagSafe wireless charger.
A couple notes: Prior to making this video I tested all of the chargers in this video two times prior to recording this video. I also tried different iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pros and also gave time for them to cool and found the same results shown in this video. From further investigation it does seems that there are PD chargers compatible, but they have to be 9V 2.22A (20W Power Delivery 3.0). No 3rd party charger in this video had this specification. Hope this helps.
I’d like to see you do the same tests but directly wired rather than wireless; ie compare the speed of the 18w, 20w & 96w (also the 30w) Apple charges directly wired.....?
Aziz - I have 5w, 10w, 18w, 29w & 30w Apple chargers; I wasn’t interested in buying a MagSafe but I’m now very confused which charger is best to use (wired) with my new iPhone 12 Pro or would I be best buying a 20w charger, again I wasn’t going to since I thought I had all bases covered but maybe I haven’t.....? 🤷🏼♂️
Aziz - Interesting watch, it’s looking like what I was thinking might be the case.....there’s no advantage with the 30w (I’d guess the 29w also); shame they didn’t have the 18w also but as a guess it should be closer to the 20w than the 12w....is it worth spending 20 notes on the 20w if you’re not using MagSafe....Mmmm
I’ve been looking for someone to compare MagSafe charging with a 3rd party case and this is the only video I’ve found so far. I was also wondering about the Anker charger. This video was very informative, thank you for making it.
From Apple support: It's important to plug into a power source before placing your iPhone on the MagSafe Charger. This allows MagSafe to verify it's safe to deliver maximum power.
This is a great demo, I was debating to buy a 3rd party more powerful device but with this test, it is very clear that 20 Watt Charges made by Apple is the way to go, excellent feedback Aaron! Thank you.
I bet something from Anker could compete with the apple one no problem. I could have told you before watching this that the Samsung ones would perform poorly because Samsung has their own fast charge technology, as far as I know it only works with Samsung phones. But my Samsung phone also supports Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3. So my phone will charge fast off my Samsung chargers with Samsung's technology, or with my Anker charger with QC3. On the other hand, my Anker power bank that supports QC3 in & out charges slow with the Samsung charger and fast with the Anker QC3. Or my Aukey QC3 car charger. But you have to pay attention to what you're buying, because some of their power banks only have QC for either in or out but not both. Anyways I would put money on Anker's chargers designed for Apple products working almost as well as or perhaps even better than Apple's charger.
This is such an informative episode. I'm buying an iPhone 12 for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary. They are upgrading from an iPhone 6S!! The wattage, magsafe, etc are all new to me. It looks like I'll stick with the new Apple 20 watt charger with MagSafe for optimal charging. You really helped me decide. thank you!!
You probably need to retest this man. It seems Mag Safe use 9V/1.67A USB-PD rev 2.0/3.0 protocol and your test shows gradual decrease of Ampere as the phone’s battery fill up. 1st test 1.62A 2nd test 1.35A 3rd test 1.14A 4th test 1.07A 5th test 1.03A 6th test 1.02A 7th test 0.83A Better recheck this. 🤔
As you can see from the 1~7th test, its Ampere number is very constantly reducing despite the various charger brand. USB-PD protocol usually set the Voltage (9V in this case) and reduces Ampere as battery is filling up. In the video, test start with about 45% battery and continue charging while changes charger in-between. So naturally, as battery reaches 50%, iPhone’s PD charging controller could start to reduce Ampere. (To protect battery life cycle) To make sure, it is better to test each charger at the same battery state. (At least 20% would be preferred)
@@ATORO1 I also didn't notice any jump cuts between the charger tests, so heat was building up in the device and that also will cause the charging to throttle.
I am sold and convinced (based on your testing results) to get only the Apple 20watt charging adapter for it's PD profile. Thank you Aaron this was a real interesting treat of a video with valuable testing.
Bought the meter awhile back, ordered the 13 Pro Max and as my 1st MagSafe phone I came here to get the results of hours of testing. The 20W will make it before all the other orders on pre-order day. Thank you!!!! 💯
Anger has a newer 20 watt charger on Amazon. Anker Nano iPhone Charger, 20W PIQ 3.0 Durable Compact Fast Charger, PowerPort III USB-C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro/12 Pro Max
@@notrueme I love them!! I’ve bought two! I was thinking this would work with the MagSafe but don’t know now! I might just get one from Best Buy and return if I don’t like it!
I was just doing research on this and your video was uploaded 2 min ago! I feel lucky. Also I’ll stick with my old charger since it’s 12watts and it charges my 12pro fast enough. Old 2.4amp Anker charger
take home message: use the usb c to lightning cable that came with your iPhone with any PD enabled charger. This magsafe charger is a useless inefficient earth polluting gimmick.
you guys are high. It depends on the use case desired. Sometimes I just want to slap my device down onto a mat or cradle and not plug it in. I don't care that it's less efficient to do that. Do you I nag you about running your AC too cool or heat too warm? Or fridge too cold? Or having children vs not? etc... We all choose how we spend our energy consumption.
@@matt-yc1yb Exactly! A lot of people just want a simple way to charge their phone, and even though I don't really consider MagSafe to be completely wireless, I still love using mine. Of course you're not gonna use it if you need to charge your phone quickly, then you would just use a cable. However most people just charge their phone overnight, and MagSafe is a great option, which I see getting better and improved as time goes on
i would love to see if you test the latest 3rd party Anker 20w powerport III Nano, that may be more reasonable to compare with the original apple 20w charger.
I wanted to point out that the first charges were “negotiated” with lower temperatures so that might affected later chargers. It helps a lot having it in front of an A/C or a desk fan to dissipate heat.
For me I just got the iPhone 12 pro max blue color 128 storage for $1099. and I can get the iPhone 12 pro Max in 1 to 2 weeks for me. I’m happy to get the OLED display. iPhone 12 pro Max for me this year.
I wanted to point out that the first charges were “negotiated” with lower temperatures so that might affected later chargers. It helps a lot having it in front of an A/C or a desk fan to dissipate heat.
You answered maybe 50 of the most questions people have about iPhone charging. Thank you so much for your dedication :) Do you think you'll ever do a comparison of direct charging from 5w, 18w, 20w, 30w, and 60w adaptors? The latter two because many people have MacBook Airs and Pros alongside their iPhone and we often charge with those adaptors. I would be keen to know the charging times with all those different chargers. Thanks!!
This is interesting and would love to see you do the same test for those of us that are still gonna use the lightning cable and plug it in as normal. Im still using my “24W Ravpower” plug and a lightning cable.
That’s the video I was looking for! Thanks a lot! Would be nice, if you could test wired charging with the adapters as well. Seems there are different results too
Note the wattages you were measuring for MagSafe are prior to wireless charging efficiency losses. The relative comparisons made still roughly hold true, but it’s not true that the phone was receiving 15W when the meter output indicated 15W. We’re likely 65% to 80% efficient in that case, depending on distance, so the phone was receiving considerably less. Wired charging, on the other hand, is generally more efficient.
Wow. GREAT video. I'm a little irked that the MagSafe charger seems to be specifically optimized for the 20 watt charger. Even though I have two 18 watt chargers (iPad Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max), I'll still need to shell out for a new adapter for the MagSafe charger. Not a good look from Apple. I'm disappointed that the MagSafe charger can't negotiate 15 watts from a more powerful adaptor than 20 watts, especially for non-MagSafe devices. Thanks again for being so thorough!
If I can play devils advocate, do you reaallly need to shell out $20 for just an extra 2W of charging speed? Are you really gonna notice the difference in day-to-day of 13W wireless vs 15W wireless? Or are you really gonna notice the difference of 18W wired vs 20W wired?
Aaron hit a homerun with this one. His bet about the PD profile is a good explanation for sure. With the right tools , he tested a lot of stuff. Maybe Apple can manage better their others Apple charger with an iOS 14 update , who knows. My guess is that the new 20w charger has the latest and greatest PD profile and the MagSafe can negociate the full speed all the time. Awesome video as usual.
Seems like one of the requirements for getting the fastest wireless charging would be to use a case that allows heat to dissipate from the back of the phone, which would be a "case" that's just a band around the outside edge of the phone, which is the type of "case" Apple originally sold with earlier iPhone models.
Honestly, I’m just going to plug my 12 in using the cable and adapter from my prior iPhone or my current iPad adapter. I don’t see what the big deal is with the MagSafe but I get that people will like it. Seems like the effort to place your phone on the MagSafe and adjust it for the best connection takes about as long (or longer) than it does to plug in a lightning cable. And besides, it would be easier to use the phone with the cable plugged in than maybe having to adjust the MagSafe from time to time. Thanks but no thanks.
The magnets means it automatically aligns, so with MagSafe you just place it on it and it will centre it’s self for correct position, easier than a cable, but using the iPhone while charging then might as well use a 20w charger rather than 15w MagSafe, only easier during the night say, can easily place it down in the dark and don’t need to look for the lighting port lol
Aaron bringing the “heat!” 🔥😂 I am the biggest Apple Fan out there (owned every iPhone since the original and have 20+ Apple products in our household). However, it was a bit disingenuous for Apple to make their claims about Mag Safe “working” with everything. The fact that you need the specific, chunky Apple 20w adapter vs the slimmer, better designed 3rd party offerings to get the full 15w is hard to accept. Even the existing USBC Apple bricks for MacBooks can’t charge 15w?!?! Not good for the Apple Ecosystem.
Ordered an iPhone 12 Pro, arriving mid November from Apple. As well I ordered the MagSafe Charger and MagSafe clear case. Will have to wait until 1st week of November for those.
you can’t get one online but i copped one the other day at an apple store they had a ton. i had no wireless chargers at all as i used to have an iphone 7 before i got the 12, i also had an apple gift card so i didn’t have anything to lose by trying it. I’m actually really enjoying it! it’s kinda the best of both worlds as i can just place my phone down as it snaps right into place without me even having to look. i can also prop my phone up to watch a video while it still charges. and i saw a bunch of people saying it’s pointless because you can’t just pick your phone up, and i doubt most of those people have even used the charger because all I have to do is place a finger down on the cable as i lift my phone. it’s muscle memory and not inconvenient at all. this is hands down the best wireless charger for the iphone 12. it’s obviously a luxury, not a necessity, but it’s the best of both worlds between wireless and regular charging
Interesting video! Thanks for the insights! Cool to see a more science based look at it, instead of random charging tests! What I'm wondering. What results do you get if you charge the iPhone straight from the MacBook charger with the cable? Does it cap at 20W or does it do the same 10W as it did on the wireless charger? Thanks and keep up the great content!
Very timely video. So many questions about the “new” charging format for Apple, not to mention one of the comprehensive videos on phone charging I’ve ever seen. Thanks.
@@zollotech Thanks, so are you saying Apple PD profile is proprietary? Surely a PD charger should be able to detect and match the device under charge? (Standards)..? Tks
@@avgguy7129 yes if so i wish Apple didn’t do that. The whole point is to use standard chargers of choice and not being forced to buy Apple chargers (of which they are so “green” about now not including them - yeah right). I bought a RAV paper 60 watt charger which has USB & USB-C (PD) exactly for the purpose of extracting as much power as possible and charging 2 devices with different connectors (which Apple don’t do). Now I have to buy a meter to check if its actually working ! Don’t you just love tech :-)
lirerally thank you so much you’re my favorite CZcamsr on tech, quick, very smart and a lot of details, just everything, iklear is the best cleaner ever and i cant thank you enough. Even if you have a weak oleophobic coating iklear adds like a coat and helps resist more fingerprints i love it
Great job! This has been the best test of MagSafe and charging adapters. I wonder what adapter Apple will recommend with its MagSafe Duo wireless charger. I recently bought the Anker Power Port III 2-Port 60 Watt charger, thinking I could use it for the MagSafe and the Apple Watch wireless chargers, but I believe it will be useless, as it will probably not be able to get the full 15 Watt charging speed. Apple has definitely made some shady moves with its MagSafe chargers.
Apple smart as hell and crooked 2 😂 talkin bout saving the environment yea ok! Still gotta go out and buy a brick and a apple brick at dat to get the capable speed 😩
I have found that my XR charges best using the original Apple cables with the Original charging block. Third-party cables cannot carry the amperage like the originals. Lotta people don’t know that. You encouraged me to do my own test. By the way, it’s not the Watts that counts it’s the amperage. You got your highest amperage readings of 1.8 A with the 20 watt brick . Good video thank you
"after we waited a minute or so" [the video Clips] so it suggest that you have waited some time... but if you look at the clock on the iphone, the time is the same - that is on the verge of deliberate misinformation
Apple hasn't done a thing with their smartphones in years now. Honestly Samsung offers more for the price then Apple. I jumped to Samsung this year and I'm glad I did it. I was interested in seeing what Apple would offer with the iPhone 12, hell I was thinking of trading in my old iPhone XS Max and getting a deal or making a payment plan for one of them, but after watching all the reviews hyping up this smartphone I can't see myself going back. I've got a Note20 and I love it, I've got more it then people have on Apple's newest smartphone and I don't think the Pro Max will make me change my mind either. My screen is already 6'9 inches, I have a 5G phone, and can record in 4K 60fps, I can take Night photos, I can record in 8K if I feel like it, my screen rate can go up to 120Hz, etc etc. I don't see Apple matching that this year and it's sad they have fooled so many people into buying a device for much more then it's worth. If the Pro Max were $800.00 it might be worth it, but it's not and my $1300.00 dollar smartphone is an actual $1300 dollar smartphone Apples $1100 dollar smartphone IS NOT. Just my opinion have a good day.
The Apple MagSafe charger pairs so well with the Anker Nano USB C 20W. Not saying it is better than the Apple 20W but I'm very confident it is just as good for wireless charging.
Thanks for the comparison. I have a question though No one nowhere has explained this: USB A > Lightning (2m) 12$ Charging Cable USB C > Lightning (2m) 39$ Charging Cable You have to buy a charging brick for 19$ from Apple in order to use USB C > Lightning cable the bundle is 58$. But.. USB A > Lightning cable is cheaper and you probably have a charging brick that is 30-60W WITH USB A Output So the question is: Are the charging speeds the same? Different cables have different AMP/Volts Tolerance some enabling you fast charge some that don't.
Aaron cranking out the iPhone 12 content like it’s nobody’s business! Keep em coming ! It’s great 👍
Agree with that. 👍
Disliked the video, I'm not here to watch the entire video. Share the final results altogether at the end like an excel sheet or something. Didn't even summarize the results. shame
Facts lol
Yeah! (You mean mrwhosetheboss, right) his name is Aron and hes the real star
What about the speed off MacBook Pro 16 usb-c port?
Are you using MagSafe or planning to get a MagSafe charger? Thanks for watching!
Think I’ll get the apple 20w brick and stay with the cord
My phone doesn’t supports wireless charging
I noticed the same thing. My 12 Pro was heating up and talking a while to charge with the MagSafe case installed.
Seemed to do much better with a direct connection from the MagSafe charger as it could obviously breathe better with more desirable heat dissipation.
i copped the apple 20w brick and the magsafe charger, works great!
I tried charging with my MagSafe on my 12 pro... felt it was too slow and made my phone too hot. Planning on returning and just sticking with the cord!
Great Video so cool to see it with the meter!! I've been working on my own and was about to scrap it when I saw the notification for this one but we're doing it a bit differently so I guess I'll keep working on it lol. Mine shows how long it takes from 0-100% since fast chargers taper down with time and heat. I'm comparing the 5W, 7.5 generic Qi Wireless, Magsafe with 20W brick and 18W since a lot of people have those already and finally 20W fast charging with a lightning cable.
can’t wait to see this one!!
Can you try it with the anker 20W nano? Seems to be very popular
Nice. Looking forward to it.
@@FlyRickyFly Sure! It looks like it not giving the same wattage as the 20W Apple.
@@MaxTechOfficial thanks! Might have to return the two I got now
The fastest and most reliable charger is the one that comes in the box!
*oh wait*
its not in the box lmao
@@mikendlovu6961 r/wooosh
Lol
@@ricean haha
Lol 😝
I think I like that meter as much as I like the iPhone 12.
I just bought one with his link.
@@spaided nice 👍
I've got the magsafe charger and 20 watt charging brick, just waiting to pre order the 12 Pro Max 256gb on 06/11/2020! Very Excited! Will be my first iPhone. Been on android from day 1.
Im switching as well and cant wait !
Me too man
Out of curiosity, why are you switching?
You guys won’t regret it.
Android user from 2010-2016. I had the OG nexus one.
Iphone user ever since, haven’t looked back.
@@enricojakobsoriano I like that it's user friendly and it has improved greatly with pics and for sure video. Also everyone I know has an iphone. I can now facetime with others and I know there are other apps you can video call but most are too lazy to download the apps. The new design is beautiful .
Can you please do this same test without the wireless charger. I would like to see the charging speed of the chargers on their own as I’m not interested in purchasing the MagSafe wireless charger.
Please tag, or like this if he replies
I would love to see that, as I’m not interested in the MagSafe charger either.
I have the 30w, from Belkin, and its faster.
I’d really like to see this too
👍
Ever get the feeling ZolloTech seems like a super nice guy? the kinda guy you’d leave your dog with and trust it would get walked.
This is the way this testing should’ve happened! Loved the detail and permutations/combinations explored.
Again, always on time! ✌️
Never thought I would find a video about chargers this interesting until today.
A couple notes: Prior to making this video I tested all of the chargers in this video two times prior to recording this video. I also tried different iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pros and also gave time for them to cool and found the same results shown in this video. From further investigation it does seems that there are PD chargers compatible, but they have to be 9V 2.22A (20W Power Delivery 3.0). No 3rd party charger in this video had this specification. Hope this helps.
I’d like to see you do the same tests but directly wired rather than wireless; ie compare the speed of the 18w, 20w & 96w (also the 30w) Apple charges directly wired.....?
yes please 30w wired
Aziz - I have 5w, 10w, 18w, 29w & 30w Apple chargers; I wasn’t interested in buying a MagSafe but I’m now very confused which charger is best to use (wired) with my new iPhone 12 Pro or would I be best buying a 20w charger, again I wasn’t going to since I thought I had all bases covered but maybe I haven’t.....? 🤷🏼♂️
@@jno5 search this : iPhone 12 Ultimate Charging Test - 5W 12W 20W 30W + Magsafe MUST WATCH!
Aziz - Interesting watch, it’s looking like what I was thinking might be the case.....there’s no advantage with the 30w (I’d guess the 29w also); shame they didn’t have the 18w also but as a guess it should be closer to the 20w than the 12w....is it worth spending 20 notes on the 20w if you’re not using MagSafe....Mmmm
@@jno5 bro magsafe is terrible , you still need to hold the cable to take ur phone off , using wired is much better
I’ve been looking for someone to compare MagSafe charging with a 3rd party case and this is the only video I’ve found so far. I was also wondering about the Anker charger. This video was very informative, thank you for making it.
Now this is the video I was waiting for someone to make. Thank you.
Video came right on time. I hear there’s some controversy about the MagSafe charger not giving you the full wattage without an apple brick.
good to know the 18w adapter works good enough ty for this vid saved me from buying another adapter
Where can i buy it?
I bought mine at ichragair,com and I am pretty satisfied with it :)
apple store or tech store
@@thomasbrown4654 bot
I have the rog phone 3... But I saw this and I really enjoyed the tone, the detail, and everything... I just subscribed even tho I am android...
This video is the most professional about iPhone on yt in my opinion .
From Apple support: It's important to plug into a power source before placing your iPhone on the MagSafe Charger. This allows MagSafe to verify it's safe to deliver maximum power.
This is a great demo, I was debating to buy a 3rd party more powerful device but with this test, it is very clear that 20 Watt Charges made by Apple is the way to go, excellent feedback Aaron! Thank you.
Ditto, so close to buying a different charge but now I'm buying Apples 20W
I bet something from Anker could compete with the apple one no problem.
I could have told you before watching this that the Samsung ones would perform poorly because Samsung has their own fast charge technology, as far as I know it only works with Samsung phones. But my Samsung phone also supports Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3. So my phone will charge fast off my Samsung chargers with Samsung's technology, or with my Anker charger with QC3.
On the other hand, my Anker power bank that supports QC3 in & out charges slow with the Samsung charger and fast with the Anker QC3. Or my Aukey QC3 car charger. But you have to pay attention to what you're buying, because some of their power banks only have QC for either in or out but not both.
Anyways I would put money on Anker's chargers designed for Apple products working almost as well as or perhaps even better than Apple's charger.
@@zeruty anker is a superb product. I especially love their headphones, I have the cheap soundcore neo and they are so comfortable and great.
This is such an informative episode. I'm buying an iPhone 12 for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary. They are upgrading from an iPhone 6S!! The wattage, magsafe, etc are all new to me. It looks like I'll stick with the new Apple 20 watt charger with MagSafe for optimal charging. You really helped me decide. thank you!!
Have you tried the Anker Nano iPhone Charger, 20W PIQ 3.0. I see that every youtuber are being sponsor by them. Great info, thanks
I want to know the same thing. Or I might. Have to cancel my order from anker
Same here or even the latest Nano 30W version
dont use third party product as it can make ur battery bloating
You probably need to retest this man.
It seems Mag Safe use 9V/1.67A USB-PD rev 2.0/3.0 protocol and your test shows gradual decrease of Ampere as the phone’s battery fill up.
1st test 1.62A
2nd test 1.35A
3rd test 1.14A
4th test 1.07A
5th test 1.03A
6th test 1.02A
7th test 0.83A
Better recheck this. 🤔
It really decreases in order!
Good find. I hope you are right. I already have anker charger and don’t wanna buy another.
Can you explain what you mean and what's wrong with that? (Sorry, I'm really confused)
As you can see from the 1~7th test, its Ampere number is very constantly reducing despite the various charger brand.
USB-PD protocol usually set the Voltage (9V in this case) and reduces Ampere as battery is filling up.
In the video, test start with about 45% battery and continue charging while changes charger in-between. So naturally, as battery reaches 50%, iPhone’s PD charging controller could start to reduce Ampere. (To protect battery life cycle)
To make sure, it is better to test each charger at the same battery state. (At least 20% would be preferred)
@@ATORO1 I also didn't notice any jump cuts between the charger tests, so heat was building up in the device and that also will cause the charging to throttle.
then how you explain at 12:12 he used the stock 20w and 3rd party case it still hit 15w? According to your theory it should have remained at 10w
The best in the business !!
I am sold and convinced (based on your testing results) to get only the Apple 20watt charging adapter for it's PD profile. Thank you Aaron this was a real interesting treat of a video with valuable testing.
Bought the meter awhile back, ordered the 13 Pro Max and as my 1st MagSafe phone I came here to get the results of hours of testing. The 20W will make it before all the other orders on pre-order day. Thank you!!!! 💯
Well, you now have the most objective Apple charging CZcams video! Keep up the great work.
They need to make cases for older iPhones with MagSafe magnets.. so they can use the charger also. Typing this from my 12 pro max 😎
Glad that I purchased original 20w charger not cheaper ones. Really great video thanks!
Anger has a newer 20 watt charger on Amazon.
Anker Nano iPhone Charger, 20W PIQ 3.0 Durable Compact Fast Charger, PowerPort III USB-C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro/12 Pro Max
20W only... mine is 60W.
Will it charge at 20w? That's the question.
This is what I'm looking at too. I'd really like to see the review on that charger.
@@notrueme I love them!! I’ve bought two! I was thinking this would work with the MagSafe but don’t know now! I might just get one from Best Buy and return if I don’t like it!
Does it charge at 15 watts with MagSafe?
I was just doing research on this and your video was uploaded 2 min ago! I feel lucky. Also I’ll stick with my old charger since it’s 12watts and it charges my 12pro fast enough. Old 2.4amp Anker charger
To be fair I’m glad Apple slows charging so aggressively due to heat, because heat is like the best way to kill battery capacity fast
Heat lol stick the bastard on a wireless charge pad it gets way hotter than fast charger and you have it sitting there for 2 hours or 1 hour 30mins
Extremely great info for this old guy.
Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting video. 👍🏻
Hi Aaron, I was literally asking myself this question! Love your Vids!
Awesome! Thank you!
This is the video I needed! Thank you ❤️
Great video, lots of doubt solved, and here I am continue using cable for charging!
The best thorough review of power supplies. Greatly Appreciated the review.
The fact is we all love watching things we can't afford 😢😭😭
@@sh1121 fr that’s why they broke that damn mindset
it's only $30 tho
@@shaurya7302 imagine how many things you have to pay for in your life
@@shaurya7302 that’s like saying you take money from the bank to buy a house that doesn’t mean someone’s broke
Bro you have internet just like everyone else watching this . Believe me it wont change your life having a new model iphone ....
I use the 30W anker Gan charger for fast charging and a 7.5W wireless 3 in 1 charger for most of the time.
From the looks of the comments you just throw vids and are smart enough to actually answer any questions. Never mind hoss.
This is amazing. Never new this, about the higher watt chargers
take home message: use the usb c to lightning cable that came with your iPhone with any PD enabled charger. This magsafe charger is a useless inefficient earth polluting gimmick.
you guys are high. It depends on the use case desired. Sometimes I just want to slap my device down onto a mat or cradle and not plug it in. I don't care that it's less efficient to do that. Do you I nag you about running your AC too cool or heat too warm? Or fridge too cold? Or having children vs not? etc... We all choose how we spend our energy consumption.
@@matt-yc1yb Exactly! A lot of people just want a simple way to charge their phone, and even though I don't really consider MagSafe to be completely wireless, I still love using mine. Of course you're not gonna use it if you need to charge your phone quickly, then you would just use a cable. However most people just charge their phone overnight, and MagSafe is a great option, which I see getting better and improved as time goes on
I bought a MagSafe Duo. Returning it. It’s
Horrible.
It’s definitely an eye opener!!! Amazing analysis!!!
Coolest gadget ever for USB charging analysis. Thanks for pointing it out!
Very helpful. I got answer for many question in a single video. Thanks a lot brother...
i would love to see if you test the latest 3rd party Anker 20w powerport III Nano, that may be more reasonable to compare with the original apple 20w charger.
yes i wanted to know this one too :(
20w charger like aukey minima or any third party charger.
@@farhad8595 i bought the Anker 20w powerport III Nano afterwards. It works pretty well, fast charging FYI
@@lilleo-0871 Owhh really! Maybe it could get to 15w. I really appreciate it man
Can you do a test without MagSafe. Like directly into the phones lightning port
Yes! I'd love to see what the max charge speed is on a 12 is. Can it go beyond 20 watts?
This is what I’d love to see as well, comparing 20w, 18w, and 12w charging bricks.
I was doing some testing last night and forgot I had Optimized Battery Charging on. When I turned it off I had drastically higher results. Nice test!
Just WOW! Very detailed and informative video! Huge thanks Aaron.
The iPhone looks so clean on the thumbnail
I wanted to point out that the first charges were “negotiated” with lower temperatures so that might affected later chargers. It helps a lot having it in front of an A/C or a desk fan to dissipate heat.
@@sees474 what...
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Thank you for this. I think I’ll just use the 18w or 20w with the cable 😁
For me I just got the iPhone 12 pro max blue color 128 storage for $1099. and I can get the iPhone 12 pro Max in 1 to 2 weeks for me. I’m happy to get the OLED display. iPhone 12 pro Max for me this year.
I have an old Sony Xperia 850 mA charger for iPhone 12 pro max and i charge it thru all night and phone itself is cool and never overhot.
I wanted to point out that the first charges were “negotiated” with lower temperatures so that might affected later chargers. It helps a lot having it in front of an A/C or a desk fan to dissipate heat.
You answered maybe 50 of the most questions people have about iPhone charging. Thank you so much for your dedication :)
Do you think you'll ever do a comparison of direct charging from 5w, 18w, 20w, 30w, and 60w adaptors? The latter two because many people have MacBook Airs and Pros alongside their iPhone and we often charge with those adaptors. I would be keen to know the charging times with all those different chargers. Thanks!!
No one has posted this type of video and Aron did it so he is the beat
These videos on iPhones keep popping up gives me hope I'll switch to iPhone by the end of the month :)
This is interesting and would love to see you do the same test for those of us that are still gonna use the lightning cable and plug it in as normal. Im still using my “24W Ravpower” plug and a lightning cable.
That’s the video I was looking for! Thanks a lot! Would be nice, if you could test wired charging with the adapters as well. Seems there are different results too
Hi ! Aaron ,your videos are great and authentic!most trusted reviews! Using the meter instead of using time as a parameter 👍
Note the wattages you were measuring for MagSafe are prior to wireless charging efficiency losses. The relative comparisons made still roughly hold true, but it’s not true that the phone was receiving 15W when the meter output indicated 15W. We’re likely 65% to 80% efficient in that case, depending on distance, so the phone was receiving considerably less. Wired charging, on the other hand, is generally more efficient.
Wow. GREAT video. I'm a little irked that the MagSafe charger seems to be specifically optimized for the 20 watt charger. Even though I have two 18 watt chargers (iPad Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max), I'll still need to shell out for a new adapter for the MagSafe charger. Not a good look from Apple. I'm disappointed that the MagSafe charger can't negotiate 15 watts from a more powerful adaptor than 20 watts, especially for non-MagSafe devices. Thanks again for being so thorough!
If I can play devils advocate, do you reaallly need to shell out $20 for just an extra 2W of charging speed? Are you really gonna notice the difference in day-to-day of 13W wireless vs 15W wireless? Or are you really gonna notice the difference of 18W wired vs 20W wired?
THIS is what “good content” looks like. Well done!
Great video. I am awaiting the Pro Max release and was looking into this exact question.
Wow! Couldn't have been more detailed. Answers all queries I had in mind and even which was in my mind yet. Thank you.
Aaron hit a homerun with this one. His bet about the PD profile is a good explanation for sure. With the right tools , he tested a lot of stuff. Maybe Apple can manage better their others Apple charger with an iOS 14 update , who knows. My guess is that the new 20w charger has the latest and greatest PD profile and the MagSafe can negociate the full speed all the time. Awesome video as usual.
Thank you so much for bringing this aspect, really looking forward for you to test Magsafe with 3rd party 20W (9V2.22A) chargers
Thank u so much for the info!
Seems like one of the requirements for getting the fastest wireless charging would be to use a case that allows heat to dissipate from the back of the phone, which would be a "case" that's just a band around the outside edge of the phone, which is the type of "case" Apple originally sold with earlier iPhone models.
What about the 18 vs 20 watt adapter for wired charging on the iPhone 12?
its equal. 20w is like 2% faster. don't worth it.
Honestly, I’m just going to plug my 12 in using the cable and adapter from my prior iPhone or my current iPad adapter. I don’t see what the big deal is with the MagSafe but I get that people will like it. Seems like the effort to place your phone on the MagSafe and adjust it for the best connection takes about as long (or longer) than it does to plug in a lightning cable.
And besides, it would be easier to use the phone with the cable plugged in than maybe having to adjust the MagSafe from time to time.
Thanks but no thanks.
The magnets means it automatically aligns, so with MagSafe you just place it on it and it will centre it’s self for correct position, easier than a cable, but using the iPhone while charging then might as well use a 20w charger rather than 15w MagSafe, only easier during the night say, can easily place it down in the dark and don’t need to look for the lighting port lol
so uh the iPhone 13 won't have a charging port
@@Valenslays not confirmed yet but most likely
magsafe is too impractical (is that even a word?) for me, I would rather just get a 18 watt adapter or a 20 watt adapter and use that tbh.
Aaron bringing the “heat!” 🔥😂 I am the biggest Apple Fan out there (owned every iPhone since the original and have 20+ Apple products in our household). However, it was a bit disingenuous for Apple to make their claims about Mag Safe “working” with everything. The fact that you need the specific, chunky Apple 20w adapter vs the slimmer, better designed 3rd party offerings to get the full 15w is hard to accept. Even the existing USBC Apple bricks for MacBooks can’t charge 15w?!?! Not good for the Apple Ecosystem.
Ordered an iPhone 12 Pro, arriving mid November from Apple. As well I ordered the MagSafe Charger and MagSafe clear case. Will have to wait until 1st week of November for those.
MagSafe is sold out literally everywhere
No it’s in the Apple fifth ave store it’s not worth a penny.
@@a2636l How do you know where he is? Also it’s great! Most will agree with me.
@@Truth_Seeker1 I tried it.
you can’t get one online but i copped one the other day at an apple store they had a ton. i had no wireless chargers at all as i used to have an iphone 7 before i got the 12, i also had an apple gift card so i didn’t have anything to lose by trying it. I’m actually really enjoying it! it’s kinda the best of both worlds as i can just place my phone down as it snaps right into place without me even having to look. i can also prop my phone up to watch a video while it still charges. and i saw a bunch of people saying it’s pointless because you can’t just pick your phone up, and i doubt most of those people have even used the charger because all I have to do is place a finger down on the cable as i lift my phone. it’s muscle memory and not inconvenient at all. this is hands down the best wireless charger for the iphone 12. it’s obviously a luxury, not a necessity, but it’s the best of both worlds between wireless and regular charging
Interesting video! Thanks for the insights! Cool to see a more science based look at it, instead of random charging tests! What I'm wondering. What results do you get if you charge the iPhone straight from the MacBook charger with the cable? Does it cap at 20W or does it do the same 10W as it did on the wireless charger? Thanks and keep up the great content!
Thank you for the video. Excellent work. Appreciated.
Very timely video. So many questions about the “new” charging format for Apple, not to mention one of the comprehensive videos on phone charging I’ve ever seen. Thanks.
Since I only have a 5w charger I’ll have to buy the 20w one 😂
Marie González and apple said it didn’t supply adapters because we already have too many! Well too many of the wrong kind.
@@JerrlEvans i still have to buy it since the only iPhone I have the Xs and yup it has the wrong charger for the 12 😞
@@mariagonzalezc.1304 Only if you need wireless charging, otherwise just use the cable that came with your Xs
Get a 12W charger it’s much better
Can we assume the Meter is PD profile agnostic? _ where can we get the meter? Make/model? Tks
Yes, it should be and is just a pass through
@@zollotech Thanks, so are you saying Apple PD profile is proprietary? Surely a PD charger should be able to detect and match the device under charge? (Standards)..? Tks
Exactly i was thinking the same.. seems like they added a proprietary PD..
@@avgguy7129 yes if so i wish Apple didn’t do that. The whole point is to use standard chargers of choice and not being forced to buy Apple chargers (of which they are so “green” about now not including them - yeah right). I bought a RAV paper 60 watt charger which has USB & USB-C (PD) exactly for the purpose of extracting as much power as possible and charging 2 devices with different connectors (which Apple don’t do). Now I have to buy a meter to check if its actually working ! Don’t you just love tech :-)
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Thank you
This is very informative thanks alot sir❤️❤️❤️
Great job! This has been the best test of MagSafe and charging adapters. I wonder what adapter Apple will recommend with its MagSafe Duo wireless charger.
I recently bought the Anker Power Port III 2-Port 60 Watt charger, thinking I could use it for the MagSafe and the Apple Watch wireless chargers, but I believe it will be useless, as it will probably not be able to get the full 15 Watt charging speed. Apple has definitely made some shady moves with its MagSafe chargers.
Apple smart as hell and crooked 2 😂 talkin bout saving the environment yea ok! Still gotta go out and buy a brick and a apple brick at dat to get the capable speed 😩
Ok. I won’t lie. I have been watching your videos ∵ forever but this video made me subscribe your channel.
I have found that my XR charges best using the original Apple cables with the Original charging block. Third-party cables cannot carry the amperage like the originals. Lotta people don’t know that. You encouraged me to do my own test. By the way, it’s not the Watts that counts it’s the amperage. You got your highest amperage readings of 1.8 A with the 20 watt brick . Good video thank you
"after we waited a minute or so" [the video Clips] so it suggest that you have waited some time... but if you look at the clock on the iphone, the time is the same - that is on the verge of deliberate misinformation
Apple hasn't done a thing with their smartphones in years now. Honestly Samsung offers more for the price then Apple. I jumped to Samsung this year and I'm glad I did it. I was interested in seeing what Apple would offer with the iPhone 12, hell I was thinking of trading in my old iPhone XS Max and getting a deal or making a payment plan for one of them, but after watching all the reviews hyping up this smartphone I can't see myself going back. I've got a Note20 and I love it, I've got more it then people have on Apple's newest smartphone and I don't think the Pro Max will make me change my mind either. My screen is already 6'9 inches, I have a 5G phone, and can record in 4K 60fps, I can take Night photos, I can record in 8K if I feel like it, my screen rate can go up to 120Hz, etc etc. I don't see Apple matching that this year and it's sad they have fooled so many people into buying a device for much more then it's worth. If the Pro Max were $800.00 it might be worth it, but it's not and my $1300.00 dollar smartphone is an actual $1300 dollar smartphone Apples $1100 dollar smartphone IS NOT. Just my opinion have a good day.
best video for charger info nice and easy awesome JOB!!
The Apple MagSafe charger pairs so well with the Anker Nano USB C 20W. Not saying it is better than the Apple 20W but I'm very confident it is just as good for wireless charging.
Thanks for the comparison. I have a question though
No one nowhere has explained this:
USB A > Lightning (2m) 12$ Charging Cable
USB C > Lightning (2m) 39$ Charging Cable
You have to buy a charging brick for 19$ from Apple in order to use USB C > Lightning cable the bundle is 58$.
But.. USB A > Lightning cable is cheaper and you probably have a charging brick that is 30-60W WITH USB A Output
So the question is: Are the charging speeds the same?
Different cables have different AMP/Volts Tolerance some enabling you fast charge some that don't.
Cleared my doubt. Was just about to buy a another one . Having the 20w charger already with me . Thank you Aaron!! OG
Great video to explain about different charges and it’s comparison.
Awesome video and it answered all my questions on which charging brick to be used for the new Iphone 12 pro. Great job !!
Really great video! It answered all my questions. Just wished you also tried out the apple 30w charger
Great Video as always
Great Video....Thanks brother I need this video🔥💕
Thanks for this man