@@Francois15031967 The intelligence is between your ears and not in the camera. The DSLMs are taking to much work for us. For me is to take photos more than look through the viewfinder and to see what the electronic viewfinder especially shows me. The experience of photography goes away and you are only correcting the image in the viewerfinder and take the picture. The process of thinking on your own isn't so important than.
I'm for both really. only thing with mirrorless is the af is still potato. i'm a concert photographer and the thing is when your constantly hunting for focus or it refuses to fire or most of the time get blurry shots with bad battery life. this is where dslrs rule. better af, better low light and other goods. I can get a d90 for around 200 dollars canadian if they still sell them at whatever. it's all about glass. if you shoot flash and the club allows it or doesn't care you got yourself an enjoyment camera. camera of choice is Nikon d750, d700 if it works, fuji x-t1 or my little monkey of a camera the x100s. those are my 3 favs when it comes to random concert or outages.
Ok... This is a stupid argument. First of all, the production team on house has dozens of professional people including cinematographers, focus pullers, lighting, audio, set design, yadda yadda, which is absolutely not even close to being the same as CZcams vlogs. Good AF is critical for vlogging. Second, DSLRs are fine for vlogging, as long as you get one with dual pixel AF in video mode so you can stay in focus.. mirrorless cameras have simply made all of this much simpler. Especially Sony and Canon. Yeah you can still shoot weddings on film cameras just fine, but please tell me, why would one want to? If I hired a professional photographer for my wedding and they showed up with a DSLR, I would fire them pretty much instantly. I wouldn't even hire them unless they were using a Canon EOS R5/R6 or Sony A7 III, A9, A9 II, A7R IV, or A1. Nikon would get a pass on a Z7 II, as long as the photog could provide proof that they can nail focus in difficult situations which Nikon struggles with heavily.
@@mikepawlikguitar Its amazing that vlogging and wedding photography just started in the last few years with the release of these cameras, but has grown in to such a large industry in such a short time! It was clearly impossible before any of that kit you mention was released. I have some photos of what appears to be my wedding taken with an actual film camera. They must be deep fakes. The point is, and always has been, that your understanding of and ability to manipulate the gear you have is what gets you 'the shot'. There are no photos you can get today that you couldn't get 20 years ago before AF and digital. You just needed to come at the problem from a different direction. People watch youtube and think they have to have the newest to do anything, but they're wrong. They just have to learn how to use what they can afford.
I'm still rocking a canon 5D MK I and I'm blown away by the colors, sharpness and low light capabilities on that 12.8 MP sensor from 2005. Now I also have a Canon RP, but damn, I wont sell the 5D.
@@MrYuJoo The RP is an upgrade in every way compared to the 5d mk I. It's sharp, the photos have great quality and overall I'd say the RP is a great purchase, specially because it is easy to carry and very versatile. The negative side is the battery life, which is not terrible but it could be better and also it takes a bit to get used to the flip screen/view finder because I find myself not really knowing where to look (maybe its just me). Compared to the 5D the only thing I still enjoy on the 5D is the quality of the photos out of the camera, sometimes I don't even have to edit. Truth be told, if your planning on seeing a big difference between the 5D and the RP, chances are you'll be disappointed, but I believe that is true for every camera. Features wise, yeah you'll enjoy what the RP has to offer. Edit: For portraits go with the 5d, I can't explain why but it makes the images magical.
One of the finest, unbiased, true review I have ever scene in the recent times 🎉 I bought 90D only after seeing your 90D review and the camera is great for me 🎉
I shoot primarily wildlife photography and I will say that from my experience using both systems DSLR is superior for my uses for three reasons. The optical viewfinder doesn't strain my eyes like the evfs I've used, the battery life is better on the dslr, and most importantly the user experience and connection to the wildlife I feel is significantly better when using an optical viewfinder.
I actually have an interesting issue with some mirrorless cameras when it comes to shooting wildlife. At least with my Sony camera, it does not autofocus strictly inside of the focus point I have selected (small flexible). It will actually focus slightly outside of this point. That might seem good for some types of shooting because if you're a little off it'll still focus on your subject instead of the background, but when I'm trying to thread my focusing point through branches to photograph a bird in a dense shrub the camera will continuously focus on the branches instead even when they are completely outside of the focusing point. I've never had that issue with a DSLR the focusing point is always exactly where it's trying to fous.
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As a Canon fanboy, I became the happiest man on earth when I got my 5DMk1. My plans now are to sell some of my gear and get me 5DMk4. 5DMk1 will never leave my bag. I could agree with all of your comments on the mirrorless cameras. They just do not appeal to me at all.
LoL. I have watched a lot of photographer vloggers in my time, none of them have the wisdom this dude have. I'm subscribing. finally found a tech reviewer who makes a lot of sense.
Come on Nikon’s D 850 is most advanced camera you do not have to have even think about anything... just keep on exploring you have best and I guess last the best DSLR from Nikon .
I have 5D Mark II and love it! Wanted it since it came out in 2008 I believe, and finally was able to afford it. I wanted to have a full frame but they were too expensive until recently. I was using Canon 20D and it produced incredible shots. It is not the equipment, but knowledge and creativity that counts. Photography is art. With advancements in technology artists still use pencils, brushes and paints for paintings, as they have for hundreds if not thousands of years. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using DSLRs in 2020 or 2080 if we ever get there. I have more respect for photographers that use older equipment but still can produce magnificent images. Nice video! Keep it up.
I shoot with a Rebel T7 (18-55 kit, 75-300, and 50 f1.8) and while it’s not the best gear in the world by a long shot, I find that it forces me to grow as a photographer and good shots requires my skills more than me relying on the tools built into the camera
Hey could you show some of your work, i recently purchased that same camera body and I'm thinking of getting a 50mm 1.8, I'm intrigued to see what it can achieve
@@MaximC yes i did I'm quite satisfied with it tbh, the 35mm would be kind of more suitable for the cropped body but i don't mind the "extra zoom" of the 50. Besides that i don't know of any budget 35mm with a wide aperture. If you're having doubts about it i can tell you that the lens quality and the pics it produces are phenomenal, that wider aperture opens up a lot of possibilities in low light ( which is what i mainly use it for). I got the 50mm stm and so far no complains, although you might want to research more regarding the Fov as on a cropped body that 50mm essentially looks like an 80mm and that might not be the ideal if you're into street photography or architecture etc
@@markopanariti1555 Thank you very much for the response, it's helping me quite a bit. Yongnuo seems to be one such lens (100€, f2.0). Exactly, I don't think I'm going to be shooting a lot of portraits, so I believe I would mind that "extra zoom" indeed. Plus as you said, on crop, 50mm it's like 80mm, so way too narrow (for street (/tourist, I guess) photography anyway). Thanks again!
My Canon 5D just feels good in my hands. I own two mirrorless rigs and they shoot great photos with fine IQ, but there's something about the sensual nature of my Canon that makes me grab it (rather than the smaller mirrorless ones) when I head out for a day.
when i started i wanted a mirrorless for the ease of use and the form factor (fujis are super sexy) but i went for a canon dslr, two years later i'm happy i did it, i freaking love the ovf, you can control the whole thing with just one hand, and more important i totally agree with you in the fact that it makes you a better photographer, at first it was very frustrating to basically have to guess, or use the rear screen to check exposure and so on, but no when i see a scene i wanna shoot it comes to my mind what settings would be good for it, i'm wrong half of the time but i'm less wrong than i used to be haha!
although to be honnest, a few thing are frustrating, i got into astro photography lately, and finding a very wide and fast lens for cheap like you can find on mirrorless is pretty hard. and the possibility to digitaly zoom in the evf is pretty amazing to manual focus, i know i can do it on the rear screen, but sometimes with long lens handheld it's a struggle. otherwise i'm not even considering changing my rig soon, i'm thinking about buying a few canon lens though.
@@utai4571 it's the opposite for me... back then i wanted a DSLR just because i thought it was the way to go when you want to take photography seriously... but i've always been a fujifilm fanboy way before the xseries, so not only was i never able to have my own DSLR, i now have a bunch of fuji bodies, lenses, and a couple of superzoom sony point and shoots... and yes, one of the main reasons being the sizes. i travel a lot so i don't want to carry a big DSLR with a bunch of lenses.
@@riverpb5250 i hear you, traveling with a 5d and two or three full frame lenses must be absolutely horrible, maybe you might take great shots, but even just during walks i find it not enjoyable to just change my lens so i can't imagine traveling with a full kit, unless it's for a specific job.
@@utai4571 and, of course, there are cases where DSLR is still the way to go... i can think of festivals or concerts. rugged bodies and weather sealing... you're just more confident with a dslr than a mirrorless in these situations. they all have strengths and weaknesses it's really all about our shooting styles! in my case, where i shoot mostly travel, street, documentary/story telling... small fuji x series and sony point and shoots all the way!
@@riverpb5250 I spent the first 4-5 years of my photography journey using an iphone 4s. Two of my favourite pictures i've taken to date were done on that phone and even now, 10 years on from buying it (got it on release date with my phone contract) it still works and i still take the occasional photo on there as it reminds me where i started. Now have a canon 1300d (T6i) and a 50mm as i prefer primes because it means i have to work harder for the "shot" and i like the challenge. It's not always about having the latest and greatest new body/lenses and dumping 1000's into something like camera equipment if your photos look trash is a waste of money imo (Not a dig at newbies, we all started somewhere moreso the specs/brand whores). I'm not taking photos for other people but as a means to remember things i do in life, it's for myself so i'm more focused on the scene than the editing afterwards... I'm not bothered about the filters added in PS or LR but more the story in the image, is the lighting right, where is the main object in the scene placed ect. I'll never do photgraphy as a job as i'm not interested in the stress of dealing with people, it's just a hobby i love doing. Sorry for the rant lol.
in the old days of film it was about knowing you're camera, these days its about Eye Focus and Tracking, if you know anything about the gear you use its old hat, we did this in the film days, know you're camera first and foremost and you will get excellent results, even with a entry level camera and kit lens, a photo is not taken its made! remember that guys
Yeah it’s a super value. If you can control your lighting the dynamic range is a non issue. In actuality the DR of the 5DSR is 1 stop better than 5d mark 2 and for the price the IQ up to iso 800 is sufficient for most commercial us. For FB and insta even shooting at 6400 I don’t see any issue
Completely agree. I love my 10+ year old 5D2 with 85mm f1.2 lens, even tho I have a Canon RP with superior AF, the 5D2 is more fun and has a personality to it.
J-Beats Productions in Japan you can get some really nice quality used 5D2 bodies for like $350, but IMO it’s probably worth it to get a new 5D4 for the better sensor and dual pixel AF system
I use DSLR because it fits in the size that I need to feel good in getting a job done. Photography is a good feel activity, if we feel good, photos will be good. A DSLR also has the "friend" quality and air. I talk to my DSLR, meaning it makes me think and interact with knowledge I have and the DSLR capability, there is thinking and dialogue. A DSLR is definitely is a conversation starter and also a conversation piece. People talked to a person with a DSLR, there are less inhibition. It's a positive socializing tool and friend. DSLR is a life tool and and a social enabler.
How the lack of a mechanical mirror would lessen anything you talk about? You can talk to your SD card as well. If you need a "conversation starter" you can buy a colorful tie, no need to lug a camera around, be it mirrored or mirrorless one. Imagine what a conversation starter a large format wooden camera would be! Don't trick yourself with those silly little dslr's!
@@NGC1433 I feel you too. I could understand and be emphatic for the singular platform you're on. Another positivity of DSLR is it makes you able to understand people. A relationship gateway. A tool of humbleness. Sometimes people start conversing by asking me why didn't I use a mirrorless. I said I do and take out my mirrorless and the conversation builds on whatever perspective or concerns thereon. See, it's really a great piece of communication starter. It attracted you to communicate with me too. The rest will just be good exchange of thoughts and ideas.
That’s a great camera. I have a Canon 5d Mark 2 which I love. But, I’ve also have a Sony A7 Mark 2 and I can’t help but like so many things about it. It feels much better in my hand (a little smaller, lighter, more natural) too me. I never have to hear that clicking sound from the mirror flipping up or switching from Live view too, optical view finder again. The video that things shoots is very good (not top of the line now, but crispy as all hell, 60p). But again I always go back too my Canon. I’m gonna buy a 1970s Early 80s film Camera, I want too have one of those too.
For me the difference is, that through the optical viewfinder on a dslr you see the world and not an image of the world like in an electronic viewfinder.
I like this guy. If I love oranges he'll give me positive reasons why I might like or won't like apples. Instead of babbling that apples are "better", and I should stop eating oranges.
M50 is my mirrorless for street photography, 5Dmk2 for general photography, 6Dmk2 for video and backup photography, 70d for backup videography… 7D classic for wildlife… Everything is everything… 😎
@@sexysilversurfer 1. You can NEVER have too many cameras… 2. I wouldn't want to only TWO cameras to rely on. 3. When I update, I will be keeping what I already have, which means… MORE CAMERAS!… 😇
Thank you for having the guts to speak out against a hype. I also use two old DSLRs namely Canon 70D and 5DII. Again fully agree that creating great images depends on the photographer, not the equipment. The mirrorless chorus has only made me love my DSLRs more than before. Face and eye tracking are good developments but not indispensable. The DPAF of my 70D does a wonderful job when focusing gets tough. On live view mode it focuses as per my desire. The touch focus and shutter are like magic. Tomorrow if conditions permit, I'm gonna shoot the full moon with a 2000 mm lens. Yes, EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II + Two 2x Extenders on 70D. That is 1200mm x 1.6 crop factor = 1920 mm. The system will be installed on a strong tripod with gimball head. And it's going to AF on live view as it did before. So, love my DSLRs.
Not even camera related, this is the best review on life I've seen in quite a while. Manual driver, cell phone moment shooter for convenience and seriously busy five child busy man, currently looking at mirrorless.
Bought a used Canon 5D mark III and it's my go-to for paid work. Built like a tank, the battery lasts forever, and it feels like a tool rather than a toy. All for the fraction of the price of mirrorless gear.
Love your approach! I have been using mirroless for almost 2 years but still have my DSLRs and love'em! They each have their advantges and disadvantages. No camera is perfect. This whole nonsense and marketing schizophrenia is only fed by people who have nothing to do or shoot and so their frustration pushes them towards G.A.S. and not towards work that matters or just simply enjoying themselves taking pictures. You have a new subscriber!
"No camera is perfect" Yep. agree 100%! I have been an SLR user since the 1970's but other "form factors" are useful. have a now "vintage" Nikon "Coolpix" P7100 that is a chunky "compact". It's small enough to leave in my car and still has enough manual options to be a "serious" camera. It still gets plenty of use. I also have a Canon Camcorder because for informal video shooting, it's just easier to whip out and use, yet is more versatile than using my phone for such videos. Saying what "form factor" of camera is "best" is like arguing whether a shotgun,pistol or rifle is "best" The right answer depends on the situation!.
Ralph you are speaking to the choir here, I agree with your opinion. And I'm not one to shy away from gear acquisition syndrome, because I suffer from some serious G.A.S, but purchasing older quality cameras, lenses and the gear that go with them just makes it easier to pick up a good deal .... So no, you just can't loose buying old quality equipment. Ask any diehard mirrorless shooter when they last picked up a film camera and watch their eyes roll back into their heads. I've picked up a number of cameras and great gear in the last 2 years - like, the Sigma Quatro SD a number of great Sigma lenses with the Sony adapter, then picked up a Sony a6500 and use my Sigma lenses on the Sony. Granted those are both mirrorless, but I also picked up a Pentax KS-2, a Nikon D500 and Nikon D750. Do I own mirrorless systems... you bet, Fuji XT-3, XH-1, XE-3, XT-20, XT-100. Not to mention over 100 SLR film cameras. Sadly I don't own a single Canon camera. Great Video, I enjoyed this and the info you provided.
Literally just bought a 5D mark ii a couple weeks ago to start to get into photography. I honestly enjoy the larger size so far and its been relatively easy to learn on. Thanks for the videos!
It's really a great camera to start with now. Older cameras are not as complicated so they're easier to use, and they give you more honest results of your input, not how good the camera is.
I'm just starting over with a Cannon D4000 after many years of not being a photographer. Years ago I shot 35mm, developing the film in a dark room. So, thank-you!
I just got a Canon 760D used for very cheap, about $280. It's a very good and fun camera, has lots of features from the 70D. Also got a 70-300mm lens separately and that was $40.
If you are also interested in film photography or if you have used film in the past there is another reason: More recent film SLRs (those with autofocus from the 80s and 90s) almost feel like digital SLRs without a screen. Usually you can even use the same lenses without adapters and get similar results (especially if your dslr is full frame).
Thanks for this. I shoot with a Nikon D610 and a few prime lenses. Its a bit more labor-intensive but I enjoy it. Very rewarding and I've stopped chasing technology. I really enjoyed this video.
My first full frame camera was a 5D Mark II. I also now own an R, a 5D Classic and a 5D Mark III. I'll never part with my II. Did a photo shoot with it this past week. Wonderful camera!
Great points, and I would add one thing that you implied but didn't state outright: pro photographers have definitely not moved as one herd towards mirrorless. At least half have not. I remember a major article on mirrorless vs DSLR in DPreview last year, in which several editors weighed in on their personal preference. A little over half still prefer DSLR's. Right on giving due weight to the shooting experience in selecting a camera. One of the main things I enjoy about photography is the experience of viewing a lovely, vivid scene through a good optical viewfinder, such as that in my Canon 5D4 (or 80D). I have heard the more recent EVF's have really good image quality, but I cannot imagine it would be the same. Also, there's the eye fatigue factor when you use an EVF for a longer period of time. I had a Sony alpha mirrorless camera for a year, and while I appreciated the convenience of the EVF for quickly getting the exposure right, my eye got tired if I was doing a lot of shooting. And I love the pro features and usability of the Canon 5D4. I'm sure owners of the Nikon 750 and 800 series feel similarly. It's not the latest in tech, but it has been refined to a high level of quality and usefulness over many iterations. It's tough, reliable, easy to use, and takes great images.
I'm currently shooting with my uncle's old 400D, the lack of live view can be infuriating at times but i'm sure ill miss the thing when i switch to a Mirrorless. DSLRs are in the same state film cameras were when digital was taking over the world and Im sure after a few generations they'll have the same appeal old SLRs and Rangefinders have now simply for the more analog experience. Nothing will beat the slap of a mirror Buying a good DSLR now might be a good investment who knows :)
Hi Hyun, thank you for your post. I take an awful lot of sports photos, and I love my DSLR’s, both APSC and full frame. I have Canon 760D, 7D Mii, 5D IV, and 1DX Miii, all with suitable sports lens. I also have all suitable portrait lens. DSLR’s will be with us for many years for reasons you have explained eg, comfort of use (they just feel right in your hands!). Mirrorless is also good, but it is in its infancy - it will progress with time, but it is not the be all and end all of photography at present as many are claiming.
I love well designed cameras regardless of the medium - mirrorless, 35mm, med-format, dslr, etc. Different tools lend to different experiences; as you said, it’s up to personal preference. Great video!
Just getting back in the game after many years. I bought a Canon T3i used. All my lenses fit. Plus the value point fit my budget. I find the artistry challenging and rewarding. I need to find more reasons not to leave home without it. I wish this model had wifi. It would make the process of sharing photos much easier. But with that said. I have my mind stretched in as you say....figuring out how to become a better artist with what I have. I am content. I took this camera to a street rod show with 8000 cars. The results were very pleasing. Thanks for your encouragement. All the best.
A bit late comment but I came across this matter recently and cannot overvalue this video. I had a DSLR and now using mirrorless APSC being so happy with a size and weight of it and all the features taken straight out of DSLR plus better image quality ( newer technology ). There's just one thing left: not many manufacturers take APSC-mirrorless seriously enough to offer pro-like cameras in a reduced fat body ( like Fuji does ).
I have three (D)SLRs and still use these with my new ones: Canon A-1, Canon F-1New, Nikon D90, Nikon D500, Sony A7R III, Sony a6600. The trick is to recognize their limitations and potentials and stay within to make good photos.
Honestly, I just bought myself a second hand Canon T3i (had my eye on it for years) and I think it's perfect for someone of my ability. I've never had a sophisticated camera before, but if you look at my videos the quality is great and is clear enough even for just HD streaming. I'm sure once I understand the settings more i'll get even better at extracting the best footage and then color grading (which I don't do yet). I would definitely advise getting an old DSLR to learn with before going for the fancy ones.
I agree. Actually, last year I bought a big DSLR even though I’ve been using mirrorless for years. With some wheeling and dealing on eBay, I ended up with a D800, 24-70/2.8, 105mm macro, battery grip, extra batteries, SB900 flash, ring flash, and some nice German filters, and had the camera professionally cleaned and AF recalibrated, for a total investment of $1150. Now I use it all the time. It’s fantastic. The grip is comfortable, the viewfinder is big and the raw files are excellent. I never had such a nice zoom lens back in the day but now it’s cheap enough for an amateur. And I also use it when shooting film on an F100.
I went back to DSLR with a D7500. I've owned the D500 in the past and I've also shot Sony FE and Olympus. They all have their pros and cons. In favor of the DSLR's though is that the quick response time is fantastic. There are so many cheap lenses, you don't have to check your bank account quite like buying into a new system. You can adapt those lenses to any mirrorless while not having to fully commit to any ML brand. The autofocus is fantastic. By the time Nikon's Z6 gets under 1k, the D750 will be the new D700 at probably 500 used. That...is...crazy.
same. i've always find it strange if you have something like a fujifilm xa series or xe series (like mine) then you'd get those 300-600mm lenses at stick it to very small body. i mean, yes, you can do that, but it's not the optimal configuration. the smaller fujis like xa, xe, xpro, etc. really demands that you use smaller lenses and even enforce it by limiting the system to a certain type of photography (example is the xpro3 with the hidden screen) big DSLRs all the way for such situations
I have shot SLR since 1995 and DSLR since 2004. Last year I changed my two Canon full frame bodies to a mirrorless EOS R with adapter. I can still use all my lenses and this switch has really solved all of my issues with my DSLR. I always struggled with the narrow AF point selection in the screen and AF reliability with my f1.4 primes. With my EOS R all lenses focus nearly 100% perfect and I can choose the AF point anywhere on the screen or use eye AF. For my type of shooting, mirrorless is a revelation. For anyone with smaller budget, there are now plenty of affordable options to get a professional DSLR which can provide the same results but sometimes with a little more manual effort.
I still only use the center focus point. For everything I do. What’s the big deal with all of these autofocus modes. I just find them confusing. My main camera is a Nikon D7200, I expect I’ll be using it for a lot of years. When I was shooting as a pro, I used the same film cameras for over 20 years. 1x Nikon FE2, 1x Mamiya RB67. I’d love a Nikon Z6, but I’d still use it the way I’m shooting now, 1focus point, aperture priority, and I’d stick with the glass I’ve accumulated over the years. One of the things I like about the 7200, is that I can stick lenses from the 70’s on it without an adapter.
Totally agree with you! The thing for me with autofocus is when I'm shooting video. Sometimes i need reliable focus tracking which get better with the new cameras
Manual focus is so underrated. You can shoot birds with it better than autofocus in many situations and when compared to slow cameras it's not even THAT slow. Like I am not saying it's as good as the AF in something like a 7Dmk2 obviously but it's not impossible to shoot and be a photographer with it you know, people been doing it for decades.
I'm with you its focus and recompose for me I just don't get the need for loads of autofocus points and modes Letting the camera decide what to focus on usually ends in me swearing or tears
I'm really glad I watched your video. I think it's the first time I've ever heard anyone say "Use whatever camera you like or whatever you can afford, as long as it gets the job done!" I've had an 'old' (if you can call a camera released in 2008 old?) Nikon D90 for the past 18 months or so, and I love it! It was dirt cheap, compared to its original cost, and it was like new when I bought it, with a shutter count of 547! The only thing I really wish it did have is a fully articulating screen. But other than that it's perfect for my needs.
Great video! I'm about to be 44 years old and I've never owned a car with an automatic transmission. I'm old school. I enjoy the feel of a DSLR. I shoot in manual 95% of the time anyway, don't most photographers? I agree, mirrorless is the future. I saw this coming years ago, but DSLR's aren't going anywhere for a while. I'm looking forward to some cheap great glass that will come out of this change as well!
I love using my Canon R for street and for low light BUT lol I definitely rock with my canon 5Dmrkiii for everything because I take it everywhere I go because it's a work horse and I won't worry about dropping it lol
I'm so happy that there are so many no talent shooters telling the world to sell all their DSLR gear to get the latest and greatest whatever!!! I love shooting film, I love shooting digital and I love not putting all my money on gear that takes so much of the fun out of shooting!! Your points were spot on, so knock it off!! Nikon D4's are almost at that sweet spot on eBay!!! LMBO!!!
I dig my 6D mk1. Love an optical viewfinder, the size...mirrorless cameras are close to the same size now, so you’re not saving much weight or bulk when that was one of the main marketing points initially. They drain batteries like mad because they’re always running the LCD or EVF. Just overpriced, expensive nonsense for gear heads who care more about the gear than actually taking photos. I can see mirrorless being beneficial if you mainly shoot video. But if you just shoot photos...You need a camera that just gets out of the way, and mirrorless cameras are not that.
one pro argument for mirrorless is the insanely improved focus. Many DSLRs have focus issues with slight front or back-focus. I'm still on a 5Dmk3 and I am definitely thinking about an R5 or R6 because of that. Also the EVF is a huge leap forward, seing the exposure preview... seeing in the dark literally, zebras for overexposure... oh and for Canon, the shadow noise or basically the dynamic range or ISO invariance at least until the 5D3 was abysmal... if these cameras had the Sony Sensors (like the Nikon's have had) then I wouldn't think about switching....
This is the video I needed to see. I have the Canon MK3 and some L series glass and have been very pleased. Although there was a learning curve for manual mode, I now really enjoy the "understanding of how it works" aspect. The high cost to go mirrorless (at this point) is offputting... especially when the equipment I have works great and I have everything I need.
The key to getting better pictures is to become a better photographer. It's the person behind the camera that makes the difference..... I still love my Nikon D7200, and the Nikkor 18-200 and 200-500 zoom lenses.
It takes a lot of guts to put forth such facts in the world where everyone is following the herd..I am a DSLR user for last 8 years, I have not switched to mirrorless still,, not because of money, but because of the User Experience & the Process of taking photographs..two points that you have mentioned well here..
I fully agree with the 5 reasons you’ve stated to get a DSLR. I still have my Canon 50D and a 5D Mklll and the image quality I achieve from them are still comparable to the latest and greatest that mirrorless cameras can deliver. Moreover, I like your thought that it is the process rather than the end result alone that must be enjoyed in pursuing the art of photography. Keeping elements of skill than pure convenience. Thank you for another great video I enjoyed viewing.
While you might like the cameras, saying that they match the image quality that the "latest and greatest that mirrorless cameras can deliver" is objectively false. In some situations there are mid range APS-C cameras that outperform the 5D III in image quality.
Finally, You are absolutely right. I do own a 90D which is the DSLR. I love the lens options and I don't miss getting an EOS R. even though it was a full-frame camera.
I have been using a 7D markii for quite a while, and though i wouldn't mind getting the new R6 or R5 I can say I deliver to all clients the work they ask for and they're completely satisfied with it. It's a heck of a cam and built like a tank, and neither of those mirrorless cams can compete on that level.
I absolutely love my Pentax K-1. Great ergonomics, weather sealed, dual card slots, GPS, WiFi. For travel and video, I have the Fuji XT3. The best of both worlds.
Time for the benediction...nothing else to be said. Well done my Brother. I bought an 11-yr old dslr earlier this year to add to my stable-now I think through my compositions more-it stays. Peace be the journey. 🎯
Good discussion. So, my answer is yes. I have a Canon 5D Mark iii (just sold a 7D Mark II). But I this year I also invested in a Fuji X100F and a Fuji X-T3. And since the pandemic I started buying some old film cameras, mostly Nikons, and a few medium formats. I do this mostly because I love the feel of cameras in my hand, the different designs and weights, and the different experiences shooting them. I'm retired and this keeps me out of trouble, sort of. And it really is cheaper than a boat payment.
Love my Nikon D850 DSLR and FX lenses and will not part with them. I like the weight and the firm grips on them. "Driven by our vision and not our gear." Perfect! The wisdom in your videos always astonishes me. Subscribed!
GREAT video... I still use my Nikon D90 DSLR which I bought way back in 2010 ... I really love using this old camera. I will continue to use it until it dies. It still does EVERYTHING I need it to do.
As someone who has been using dsrs and mirrorless for the last 15 years, and still owns both, the two main frustrations with dslrs that can infuriate one are 1) lens adjustments. You will encounter lenses that will back and front focus and you won’t be ever able to successfully adjust them for all the focusing distances and 2) if you live and shoot in sunny climate, the fact that you took a shot and don’t know if u nail it or not and can’t see anything on your back display due to it been sunny. None of these problems exist with mirrorless cameras.
I totally agree with you! DSLRs are way more fun to shoot with and encourages the use of photography basics. Mirrorless is great for professionals but for enthusiasts a DSLR is more suitable.
I shoot sports for the local newspaper when there isn't a pandemic. I have met a lot of photographers, and most of them seem to shoot with DSLRs. When there is a pandemic, I mostly do landscapes, and I use a variety of different lenses, from super wide to tight zooms. I use a Nikon D850 and always shoot in manual mode. I have big hands also, and I like the way that DSLRs fit in my hand. I really don't see myself going to mirrorless any time soon. I have nothing against mirrorless cameras. A camera is a tool, it is the person that is standing behind it that makes the difference. Like you, I enjoy the process, and really have no opinion about mirrorless, because I have never used one. Probably when Nikon comes up with a professional, full frame, dual card slot, 50 megapixel mirrorless camera that can allow me to use my f-mount lenses (especially my 300mm f/2.8 sport lens), then I will think about getting one....after my D850 starts to give me trouble...until then I'll keep shooting with my DSLR. Will I pick up another full frame DSLR.....I have definitely been thinking about it.
I am a mirrorless user and I still agree with this video. I myself have switched to a Fuji xt3, as I want to get more into advanced video . But I do quite a bit of concert photography and 90-95% of photographers there still use dslrs. And I get their point: Full Frame dslrs are better in low light performance, a key element in concert photography, and even if they could use the great autofocus systems of the latest mirrorless models, most of the time they will be shooting musicians, mostly singers, who are in the center of the frame. And they don't care about video specs. I get great results from my Fuji and the live view mode works great for me, specially in small and poorly illuminated venues, but I wouldn't mind getting a used Nikon D800 or D750 one day, as I still have a 50mm 1.4 af-d which I sometimes use for film photography.
We should all say that DSLRs are outdated, so that the used camera market will be overflown by excellent stuff at a ridiculous price
Until camera makers go bankrupt, that is
@@MJ-uk6luno, they will be busy producing brand new cameras with auto-this and intelligent-that for GAS-weirdos :))
Agreed 😉
@@Francois15031967 The intelligence is between your ears and not in the camera. The DSLMs are taking to much work for us. For me is to take photos more than look through the viewfinder and to see what the electronic viewfinder especially shows me. The experience of photography goes away and you are only correcting the image in the viewerfinder and take the picture. The process of thinking on your own isn't so important than.
And that's what made me pay Pentax K-1 with the kit (FA 50mm f1.4) for only 750 USD! Such a bargain!
At last an intelligent and unbiased person that doesn't go with the flow because everybody else does :) Subscribed!
Exactly!
Agreed!
Well said. Period.
AMEN to that!!!!!
alfredolunafoto same!
I love the mirrorless cameras. They make that price of dlsr and lenses are going down!
Tomasz Michalski That is the only positive.
LoL, true! Better for me.
Haha yeah! Cheaper gear for us smart folk to buy.
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I'm for both really. only thing with mirrorless is the af is still potato. i'm a concert photographer and the thing is when your constantly hunting for focus or it refuses to fire or most of the time get blurry shots with bad battery life. this is where dslrs rule. better af, better low light and other goods. I can get a d90 for around 200 dollars canadian if they still sell them at whatever. it's all about glass. if you shoot flash and the club allows it or doesn't care you got yourself an enjoyment camera. camera of choice is Nikon d750, d700 if it works, fuji x-t1 or my little monkey of a camera the x100s. those are my 3 favs when it comes to random concert or outages.
"An entire season of House was filmed with this...but if that's not good enough for your CZcams channel....". I Lol'd. A+ on that one.
dont forget the instagram 😁 it was good.
Yeah he really put things into perspective by showing us the top tier productions which used an “old” camera.
this was good, best review I've watched in 10 years.
Ok... This is a stupid argument. First of all, the production team on house has dozens of professional people including cinematographers, focus pullers, lighting, audio, set design, yadda yadda, which is absolutely not even close to being the same as CZcams vlogs. Good AF is critical for vlogging. Second, DSLRs are fine for vlogging, as long as you get one with dual pixel AF in video mode so you can stay in focus.. mirrorless cameras have simply made all of this much simpler. Especially Sony and Canon. Yeah you can still shoot weddings on film cameras just fine, but please tell me, why would one want to?
If I hired a professional photographer for my wedding and they showed up with a DSLR, I would fire them pretty much instantly. I wouldn't even hire them unless they were using a Canon EOS R5/R6 or Sony A7 III, A9, A9 II, A7R IV, or A1. Nikon would get a pass on a Z7 II, as long as the photog could provide proof that they can nail focus in difficult situations which Nikon struggles with heavily.
@@mikepawlikguitar Its amazing that vlogging and wedding photography just started in the last few years with the release of these cameras, but has grown in to such a large industry in such a short time! It was clearly impossible before any of that kit you mention was released. I have some photos of what appears to be my wedding taken with an actual film camera. They must be deep fakes.
The point is, and always has been, that your understanding of and ability to manipulate the gear you have is what gets you 'the shot'. There are no photos you can get today that you couldn't get 20 years ago before AF and digital. You just needed to come at the problem from a different direction. People watch youtube and think they have to have the newest to do anything, but they're wrong. They just have to learn how to use what they can afford.
I'm still rocking a canon 5D MK I and I'm blown away by the colors, sharpness and low light capabilities on that 12.8 MP sensor from 2005. Now I also have a Canon RP, but damn, I wont sell the 5D.
Still my all time favorite camera
How do you like the RP? I’m still using a 5D II as my main camera but fear for its age.
@@MrYuJoo The RP is an upgrade in every way compared to the 5d mk I. It's sharp, the photos have great quality and overall I'd say the RP is a great purchase, specially because it is easy to carry and very versatile. The negative side is the battery life, which is not terrible but it could be better and also it takes a bit to get used to the flip screen/view finder because I find myself not really knowing where to look (maybe its just me). Compared to the 5D the only thing I still enjoy on the 5D is the quality of the photos out of the camera, sometimes I don't even have to edit. Truth be told, if your planning on seeing a big difference between the 5D and the RP, chances are you'll be disappointed, but I believe that is true for every camera. Features wise, yeah you'll enjoy what the RP has to offer.
Edit: For portraits go with the 5d, I can't explain why but it makes the images magical.
Mark 1 had unique colors
That camera has some of the most organic colors I've ever seen. And I shoot FUJIFILM!
One of the finest, unbiased, true review I have ever scene in the recent times 🎉 I bought 90D only after seeing your 90D review and the camera is great for me 🎉
"DSLRs are just more fun"
Ah yes, unbiased 😅
I shoot primarily wildlife photography and I will say that from my experience using both systems DSLR is superior for my uses for three reasons. The optical viewfinder doesn't strain my eyes like the evfs I've used, the battery life is better on the dslr, and most importantly the user experience and connection to the wildlife I feel is significantly better when using an optical viewfinder.
Agreed. There are too many deal-breakers with mirrorless. Poorer battery life. No OVF. Poor ergonomics. Any one of these is a deal breaker on its own.
I actually have an interesting issue with some mirrorless cameras when it comes to shooting wildlife. At least with my Sony camera, it does not autofocus strictly inside of the focus point I have selected (small flexible). It will actually focus slightly outside of this point. That might seem good for some types of shooting because if you're a little off it'll still focus on your subject instead of the background, but when I'm trying to thread my focusing point through branches to photograph a bird in a dense shrub the camera will continuously focus on the branches instead even when they are completely outside of the focusing point. I've never had that issue with a DSLR the focusing point is always exactly where it's trying to fous.
The animal eye tracking autofocus is the deal breaker for me. I need that
i still use my d700 nikon with 50mm f1.8 because i love the quality nothing beats the vivid setting , no editing. its perfect for social media.
I own a D850, but I use my D700 with my Lensbaby creative lenses because it still delivers fantastic images out of the camera.
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Louis Luzuka Lensbaby creates manual focus creative lenses that allow you to produce images with unique compositions: soft focus, slice focus, swirly bokeh, flares, and the like. They are at www.lensbaby.com .
As a Canon fanboy, I became the happiest man on earth when I got my 5DMk1. My plans now are to sell some of my gear and get me 5DMk4. 5DMk1 will never leave my bag.
I could agree with all of your comments on the mirrorless cameras. They just do not appeal to me at all.
LoL. I have watched a lot of photographer vloggers in my time, none of them have the wisdom this dude have. I'm subscribing. finally found a tech reviewer who makes a lot of sense.
I love my D850, that thing will be with me forever.
I just got my D850... LOVE it :D more than I will ever need in a camera
SAME!! And my 750
Come on Nikon’s D 850 is most advanced camera you do not have to have even think about anything... just keep on exploring you have best and I guess last the best DSLR from Nikon .
I missed this video but asked him a question about going to a dslr and in particular a d850.
I don't miss my D850 after getting the Z7 ii. D850 was spectacular, but the Z7 ii is just more pleasant to use.
I have 5D Mark II and love it! Wanted it since it came out in 2008 I believe, and finally was able to afford it. I wanted to have a full frame but they were too expensive until recently. I was using Canon 20D and it produced incredible shots. It is not the equipment, but knowledge and creativity that counts. Photography is art. With advancements in technology artists still use pencils, brushes and paints for paintings, as they have for hundreds if not thousands of years. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using DSLRs in 2020 or 2080 if we ever get there. I have more respect for photographers that use older equipment but still can produce magnificent images. Nice video! Keep it up.
I shoot with a Rebel T7 (18-55 kit, 75-300, and 50 f1.8) and while it’s not the best gear in the world by a long shot, I find that it forces me to grow as a photographer and good shots requires my skills more than me relying on the tools built into the camera
rebels are always good option, i have 5dm2 but also have t3i and still works great, would not sell
Hey could you show some of your work, i recently purchased that same camera body and I'm thinking of getting a 50mm 1.8, I'm intrigued to see what it can achieve
@@markopanariti1555
Did you get it?
By the way, I listened to some videos, isn't 35mm more universal than 50mm?
@@MaximC yes i did
I'm quite satisfied with it tbh, the 35mm would be kind of more suitable for the cropped body but i don't mind the "extra zoom" of the 50. Besides that i don't know of any budget 35mm with a wide aperture. If you're having doubts about it i can tell you that the lens quality and the pics it produces are phenomenal, that wider aperture opens up a lot of possibilities in low light ( which is what i mainly use it for). I got the 50mm stm and so far no complains, although you might want to research more regarding the Fov as on a cropped body that 50mm essentially looks like an 80mm and that might not be the ideal if you're into street photography or architecture etc
@@markopanariti1555
Thank you very much for the response, it's helping me quite a bit.
Yongnuo seems to be one such lens (100€, f2.0).
Exactly, I don't think I'm going to be shooting a lot of portraits, so I believe I would mind that "extra zoom" indeed. Plus as you said, on crop, 50mm it's like 80mm, so way too narrow (for street (/tourist, I guess) photography anyway).
Thanks again!
My Canon 5D just feels good in my hands. I own two mirrorless rigs and they shoot great photos with fine IQ, but there's something about the sensual nature of my Canon that makes me grab it (rather than the smaller mirrorless ones) when I head out for a day.
when i started i wanted a mirrorless for the ease of use and the form factor (fujis are super sexy) but i went for a canon dslr, two years later i'm happy i did it, i freaking love the ovf, you can control the whole thing with just one hand, and more important i totally agree with you in the fact that it makes you a better photographer, at first it was very frustrating to basically have to guess, or use the rear screen to check exposure and so on, but no when i see a scene i wanna shoot it comes to my mind what settings would be good for it, i'm wrong half of the time but i'm less wrong than i used to be haha!
although to be honnest, a few thing are frustrating, i got into astro photography lately, and finding a very wide and fast lens for cheap like you can find on mirrorless is pretty hard. and the possibility to digitaly zoom in the evf is pretty amazing to manual focus, i know i can do it on the rear screen, but sometimes with long lens handheld it's a struggle. otherwise i'm not even considering changing my rig soon, i'm thinking about buying a few canon lens though.
@@utai4571 it's the opposite for me... back then i wanted a DSLR just because i thought it was the way to go when you want to take photography seriously... but i've always been a fujifilm fanboy way before the xseries, so not only was i never able to have my own DSLR, i now have a bunch of fuji bodies, lenses, and a couple of superzoom sony point and shoots... and yes, one of the main reasons being the sizes. i travel a lot so i don't want to carry a big DSLR with a bunch of lenses.
@@riverpb5250 i hear you, traveling with a 5d and two or three full frame lenses must be absolutely horrible, maybe you might take great shots, but even just during walks i find it not enjoyable to just change my lens so i can't imagine traveling with a full kit, unless it's for a specific job.
@@utai4571 and, of course, there are cases where DSLR is still the way to go... i can think of festivals or concerts. rugged bodies and weather sealing... you're just more confident with a dslr than a mirrorless in these situations. they all have strengths and weaknesses it's really all about our shooting styles! in my case, where i shoot mostly travel, street, documentary/story telling... small fuji x series and sony point and shoots all the way!
@@riverpb5250 I spent the first 4-5 years of my photography journey using an iphone 4s. Two of my favourite pictures i've taken to date were done on that phone and even now, 10 years on from buying it (got it on release date with my phone contract) it still works and i still take the occasional photo on there as it reminds me where i started. Now have a canon 1300d (T6i) and a 50mm as i prefer primes because it means i have to work harder for the "shot" and i like the challenge. It's not always about having the latest and greatest new body/lenses and dumping 1000's into something like camera equipment if your photos look trash is a waste of money imo (Not a dig at newbies, we all started somewhere moreso the specs/brand whores). I'm not taking photos for other people but as a means to remember things i do in life, it's for myself so i'm more focused on the scene than the editing afterwards... I'm not bothered about the filters added in PS or LR but more the story in the image, is the lighting right, where is the main object in the scene placed ect. I'll never do photgraphy as a job as i'm not interested in the stress of dealing with people, it's just a hobby i love doing.
Sorry for the rant lol.
Thank you! I’m coming back to photography after a 3 year break and thought I was crazy for thinking of going back to DSLR. I appreciate your insight!
in the old days of film it was about knowing you're camera, these days its about Eye Focus and Tracking, if you know anything about the gear you use its old hat, we did this in the film days, know you're camera first and foremost and you will get excellent results, even with a entry level camera and kit lens, a photo is not taken its made! remember that guys
i have my Canon 5D mark 3 for 5 years and it works like a beast..a true monster!and i'm always satisfied for the result of photo and video
Same here!
A nice splash of cold water onto the people who label older camera gear as useless.
I just acquired a canon 5dsr +a 40mm f2.8 lens for less than US1k. The image quality is still awesome and it’s does it job admirably
Amazing value
Yeah it’s a super value. If you can control your lighting the dynamic range is a non issue. In actuality the DR of the 5DSR is 1 stop better than 5d mark 2 and for the price the IQ up to iso 800 is sufficient for most commercial us. For FB and insta even shooting at 6400 I don’t see any issue
1000 usd ? Wtf
@@rivieramayafotografo3239 is it too expensive
@@YoungSunTeh one thoudand dollars is nothing, canon 5Dsr costs like $3,000 dollars
Completely agree. I love my 10+ year old 5D2 with 85mm f1.2 lens, even tho I have a Canon RP with superior AF, the 5D2 is more fun and has a personality to it.
I agree with this statement. The new mirrorless cameras shoot great pictures, but they don’t have as much personality. They feel bleak to me.
I’ve got a RP as well, been looking at the 5d mkii as a second body.
J-Beats Productions in Japan you can get some really nice quality used 5D2 bodies for like $350, but IMO it’s probably worth it to get a new 5D4 for the better sensor and dual pixel AF system
I use DSLR because it fits in the size that I need to feel good in getting a job done. Photography is a good feel activity, if we feel good, photos will be good. A DSLR also has the "friend" quality and air. I talk to my DSLR, meaning it makes me think and interact with knowledge I have and the DSLR capability, there is thinking and dialogue. A DSLR is definitely is a conversation starter and also a conversation piece. People talked to a person with a DSLR, there are less inhibition. It's a positive socializing tool and friend. DSLR is a life tool and and a social enabler.
How the lack of a mechanical mirror would lessen anything you talk about? You can talk to your SD card as well. If you need a "conversation starter" you can buy a colorful tie, no need to lug a camera around, be it mirrored or mirrorless one. Imagine what a conversation starter a large format wooden camera would be! Don't trick yourself with those silly little dslr's!
@@NGC1433 I feel you too. I could understand and be emphatic for the singular platform you're on. Another positivity of DSLR is it makes you able to understand people. A relationship gateway. A tool of humbleness. Sometimes people start conversing by asking me why didn't I use a mirrorless. I said I do and take out my mirrorless and the conversation builds on whatever perspective or concerns thereon. See, it's really a great piece of communication starter. It attracted you to communicate with me too. The rest will just be good exchange of thoughts and ideas.
No intention of moving away from my 5D Mkiv in the near future.
That’s a great camera. I have a Canon 5d Mark 2 which I love. But, I’ve also have a Sony A7 Mark 2 and I can’t help but like so many things about it. It feels much better in my hand (a little smaller, lighter, more natural) too me. I never have to hear that clicking sound from the mirror flipping up or switching from Live view too, optical view finder again. The video that things shoots is very good (not top of the line now, but crispy as all hell, 60p). But again I always go back too my Canon. I’m gonna buy a 1970s Early 80s film Camera, I want too have one of those too.
For me the difference is, that through the optical viewfinder on a dslr you see the world and not an image of the world like in an electronic viewfinder.
I bought a Canon 6DM2 this year with a 24-105mm f4 lens. Enjoying the DSLR camera a lot.
Get a 15-35 2.8 or a 14 2.8 and you will even love it more
Imagine sleeping on a long line of reliable workhorses because it has a mirror XD Also may I add to use "Affordable" rather than "cheap"
I like this guy. If I love oranges he'll give me positive reasons why I might like or won't like apples. Instead of babbling that apples are "better", and I should stop eating oranges.
Very true.
M50 is my mirrorless for street photography, 5Dmk2 for general photography, 6Dmk2 for video and backup photography, 70d for backup videography… 7D classic for wildlife… Everything is everything… 😎
Life & Times of a MultipleMediaManager™ you have too many cameras, updating would mean two cameras could do everything.
@@sexysilversurfer 1. You can NEVER have too many cameras… 2. I wouldn't want to only TWO cameras to rely on. 3. When I update, I will be keeping what I already have, which means… MORE CAMERAS!… 😇
@Coo Koo 🤣
Thank you for having the guts to speak out against a hype.
I also use two old DSLRs namely Canon 70D and 5DII. Again fully agree that creating great images depends on the photographer, not the equipment. The mirrorless chorus has only made me love my DSLRs more than before.
Face and eye tracking are good developments but not indispensable. The DPAF of my 70D does a wonderful job when focusing gets tough. On live view mode it focuses as per my desire. The touch focus and shutter are like magic. Tomorrow if conditions permit, I'm gonna shoot the full moon with a 2000 mm lens. Yes, EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II + Two 2x Extenders on 70D. That is 1200mm x 1.6 crop factor = 1920 mm. The system will be installed on a strong tripod with gimball head. And it's going to AF on live view as it did before. So, love my DSLRs.
Not even camera related, this is the best review on life I've seen in quite a while. Manual driver, cell phone moment shooter for convenience and seriously busy five child busy man, currently looking at mirrorless.
Magic lantern has breathed new life into a lot of those canon dslrs.
Bought a used Canon 5D mark III and it's my go-to for paid work. Built like a tank, the battery lasts forever, and it feels like a tool rather than a toy. All for the fraction of the price of mirrorless gear.
Here I am still using 5d classic and still happy with it, adding strobe and light modifier and I’m all set for next 2-3 years
Love your approach! I have been using mirroless for almost 2 years but still have my DSLRs and love'em! They each have their advantges and disadvantages. No camera is perfect. This whole nonsense and marketing schizophrenia is only fed by people who have nothing to do or shoot and so their frustration pushes them towards G.A.S. and not towards work that matters or just simply enjoying themselves taking pictures. You have a new subscriber!
"No camera is perfect" Yep. agree 100%! I have been an SLR user since the 1970's but other "form factors" are useful. have a now "vintage" Nikon "Coolpix" P7100 that is a chunky "compact". It's small enough to leave in my car and still has enough manual options to be a "serious" camera. It still gets plenty of use. I also have a Canon Camcorder because for informal video shooting, it's just easier to whip out and use, yet is more versatile than using my phone for such videos. Saying what "form factor" of camera is "best" is like arguing whether a shotgun,pistol or rifle is "best" The right answer depends on the situation!.
Ralph you are speaking to the choir here, I agree with your opinion. And I'm not one to shy away from gear acquisition syndrome, because I suffer from some serious G.A.S, but purchasing older quality cameras, lenses and the gear that go with them just makes it easier to pick up a good deal .... So no, you just can't loose buying old quality equipment. Ask any diehard mirrorless shooter when they last picked up a film camera and watch their eyes roll back into their heads. I've picked up a number of cameras and great gear in the last 2 years - like, the Sigma Quatro SD a number of great Sigma lenses with the Sony adapter, then picked up a Sony a6500 and use my Sigma lenses on the Sony. Granted those are both mirrorless, but I also picked up a Pentax KS-2, a Nikon D500 and Nikon D750. Do I own mirrorless systems... you bet, Fuji XT-3, XH-1, XE-3, XT-20, XT-100. Not to mention over 100 SLR film cameras. Sadly I don't own a single Canon camera. Great Video, I enjoyed this and the info you provided.
Literally just bought a 5D mark ii a couple weeks ago to start to get into photography. I honestly enjoy the larger size so far and its been relatively easy to learn on. Thanks for the videos!
It's really a great camera to start with now. Older cameras are not as complicated so they're easier to use, and they give you more honest results of your input, not how good the camera is.
"some people like to shoot film...."
*nervously laugh with 9 film cameras*
@Apexseals right now I have 12 film cameras lol
Great to hear your views/comments..I am a DSLR user & very happy with my D500...I do not need to change to mirror less gear..
I used to own one as well. Amazing camera.
Thank you Sir, i am 76 years old and old system is my safe zone.
well....obviously
@@s1n112 he's thanking the guy, don't be rude...
Then maybe one of Kodak’s Brownie cams (I.e. 1921) will be a valid option! Lol (I’m kidding)
Ericramone78 bit of an arrogant comment, unnecessary
Ddjames95 -hows that? I beg too here your explanation?
I'm just starting over with a Cannon D4000 after many years of not being a photographer. Years ago I shot 35mm, developing the film in a dark room. So, thank-you!
I this month I bought Canon 90D only for photos. But at work I using Panasonic G80. And I think this is very good connection
shoot video with the 90d.. enjoy the no crop factor..lol
For what kind of work you use the Panasonic G80?
I just got a Canon 760D used for very cheap, about $280. It's a very good and fun camera, has lots of features from the 70D. Also got a 70-300mm lens separately and that was $40.
If you are also interested in film photography or if you have used film in the past there is another reason:
More recent film SLRs (those with autofocus from the 80s and 90s) almost feel like digital SLRs without a screen. Usually you can even use the same lenses without adapters and get similar results (especially if your dslr is full frame).
If you shoot action/ sports /wildlife. Get DSLR ~!
Your videos are the very reason I go to best buy just to hold the DLSRs and dream, keep up the great work man. Im saving up for a 90D from my t6.
The BEST practical advice! You sir, are the real thing. ON the money! Thank you for having the balls to be real.
Thanks for this. I shoot with a Nikon D610 and a few prime lenses. Its a bit more labor-intensive but I enjoy it. Very rewarding and I've stopped chasing technology. I really enjoyed this video.
My first full frame camera was a 5D Mark II. I also now own an R, a 5D Classic and a 5D Mark III. I'll never part with my II. Did a photo shoot with it this past week. Wonderful camera!
Great points, and I would add one thing that you implied but didn't state outright: pro photographers have definitely not moved as one herd towards mirrorless. At least half have not. I remember a major article on mirrorless vs DSLR in DPreview last year, in which several editors weighed in on their personal preference. A little over half still prefer DSLR's.
Right on giving due weight to the shooting experience in selecting a camera. One of the main things I enjoy about photography is the experience of viewing a lovely, vivid scene through a good optical viewfinder, such as that in my Canon 5D4 (or 80D). I have heard the more recent EVF's have really good image quality, but I cannot imagine it would be the same.
Also, there's the eye fatigue factor when you use an EVF for a longer period of time. I had a Sony alpha mirrorless camera for a year, and while I appreciated the convenience of the EVF for quickly getting the exposure right, my eye got tired if I was doing a lot of shooting.
And I love the pro features and usability of the Canon 5D4. I'm sure owners of the Nikon 750 and 800 series feel similarly. It's not the latest in tech, but it has been refined to a high level of quality and usefulness over many iterations. It's tough, reliable, easy to use, and takes great images.
I'm currently shooting with my uncle's old 400D, the lack of live view can be infuriating at times but i'm sure ill miss the thing when i switch to a Mirrorless. DSLRs are in the same state film cameras were when digital was taking over the world and Im sure after a few generations they'll have the same appeal old SLRs and Rangefinders have now simply for the more analog experience. Nothing will beat the slap of a mirror
Buying a good DSLR now might be a good investment who knows :)
Hi Hyun, thank you for your post. I take an awful lot of sports photos, and I love my DSLR’s, both APSC and full frame. I have Canon 760D, 7D Mii, 5D IV, and 1DX Miii, all with suitable sports lens. I also have all suitable portrait lens. DSLR’s will be with us for many years for reasons you have explained eg, comfort of use (they just feel right in your hands!). Mirrorless is also good, but it is in its infancy - it will progress with time, but it is not the be all and end all of photography at present as many are claiming.
I love well designed cameras regardless of the medium - mirrorless, 35mm, med-format, dslr, etc. Different tools lend to different experiences; as you said, it’s up to personal preference. Great video!
Just getting back in the game after many years. I bought a Canon T3i used. All my lenses fit. Plus the value point fit my budget. I find the artistry challenging and rewarding. I need to find more reasons not to leave home without it. I wish this model had wifi. It would make the process of sharing photos much easier. But with that said. I have my mind stretched in as you say....figuring out how to become a better artist with what I have. I am content. I took this camera to a street rod show with 8000 cars. The results were very pleasing. Thanks for your encouragement. All the best.
You’re too right...! I have two 5D 1 and I just love them... No need to change...! 😎🤘🏻
A bit late comment but I came across this matter recently and cannot overvalue this video. I had a DSLR and now using mirrorless APSC being so happy with a size and weight of it and all the features taken straight out of DSLR plus better image quality ( newer technology ). There's just one thing left: not many manufacturers take APSC-mirrorless seriously enough to offer pro-like cameras in a reduced fat body ( like Fuji does ).
i love my D700, my F4, FM3a, FE and I just bought a Mamyia 645 1000s to try medium format. Haven't tried mirrorless yet.
I have three (D)SLRs and still use these with my new ones: Canon A-1, Canon F-1New, Nikon D90, Nikon D500, Sony A7R III, Sony a6600. The trick is to recognize their limitations and potentials and stay within to make good photos.
So true, I tried film photography recently and it is a lot of fun. Nice video, keep up the good work :)
Honestly,
I just bought myself a second hand Canon T3i (had my eye on it for years) and I think it's perfect for someone of my ability. I've never had a sophisticated camera before, but if you look at my videos the quality is great and is clear enough even for just HD streaming. I'm sure once I understand the settings more i'll get even better at extracting the best footage and then color grading (which I don't do yet). I would definitely advise getting an old DSLR to learn with before going for the fancy ones.
I agree. Actually, last year I bought a big DSLR even though I’ve been using mirrorless for years. With some wheeling and dealing on eBay, I ended up with a D800, 24-70/2.8, 105mm macro, battery grip, extra batteries, SB900 flash, ring flash, and some nice German filters, and had the camera professionally cleaned and AF recalibrated, for a total investment of $1150. Now I use it all the time. It’s fantastic. The grip is comfortable, the viewfinder is big and the raw files are excellent. I never had such a nice zoom lens back in the day but now it’s cheap enough for an amateur. And I also use it when shooting film on an F100.
Dslrs will never go away for me. Got a 5d mk3 in 2020 autumn and it was the best idea i have had in years.
Good or not, i'm stuck with my dslr. I have no money for any upgrade
I wouldn’t even call murrirless an upgrade.
I still have my Nikon D’s 600 700 300 and D3. Still kicking ass!! Plus my lovely film’s cameras!
Awesome video. I am still using a Canon 20D with Olympus OM 28mm f2.8. Love the mechanical focusing.
I went back to DSLR with a D7500. I've owned the D500 in the past and I've also shot Sony FE and Olympus. They all have their pros and cons. In favor of the DSLR's though is that the quick response time is fantastic. There are so many cheap lenses, you don't have to check your bank account quite like buying into a new system. You can adapt those lenses to any mirrorless while not having to fully commit to any ML brand. The autofocus is fantastic.
By the time Nikon's Z6 gets under 1k, the D750 will be the new D700 at probably 500 used. That...is...crazy.
I actually dont understand why people would go mirrorless when they use gigantic lenses.
So unbalanced.
same. i've always find it strange if you have something like a fujifilm xa series or xe series (like mine) then you'd get those 300-600mm lenses at stick it to very small body. i mean, yes, you can do that, but it's not the optimal configuration. the smaller fujis like xa, xe, xpro, etc. really demands that you use smaller lenses and even enforce it by limiting the system to a certain type of photography (example is the xpro3 with the hidden screen)
big DSLRs all the way for such situations
LOL
EOS 5Dm3 with 24mm pancake looks ROFL, a7C with 2.8/35 pancake looks like i can take it anywhere
Exactly. I also have an Olympus EM10 Mark II and it is a very unbalanced camera because of the super small grip.
Well, an EVF and 20 fps with an electronic shutter for a start. Analog looking dials on the Fujis look like fun.
I have shot SLR since 1995 and DSLR since 2004. Last year I changed my two Canon full frame bodies to a mirrorless EOS R with adapter. I can still use all my lenses and this switch has really solved all of my issues with my DSLR.
I always struggled with the narrow AF point selection in the screen and AF reliability with my f1.4 primes. With my EOS R all lenses focus nearly 100% perfect and I can choose the AF point anywhere on the screen or use eye AF. For my type of shooting, mirrorless is a revelation.
For anyone with smaller budget, there are now plenty of affordable options to get a professional DSLR which can provide the same results but sometimes with a little more manual effort.
The only good thing about mirrorless cameras is that they make DSLR cameras and lenses cheaper. Thanks for the great vid! Subbed and liked 😊
Mirrorless have fewer moving parts. An EVF is far better for focusing. Mirrorless are able to use a greater number of adapted lenses.
I have both mirrorless and DSLR and when it comes to using longer lenses, the larger, chunkier DSLR is far easier to handle.
I still only use the center focus point. For everything I do. What’s the big deal with all of these autofocus modes. I just find them confusing. My main camera is a Nikon D7200, I expect I’ll be using it for a lot of years. When I was shooting as a pro, I used the same film cameras for over 20 years. 1x Nikon FE2, 1x Mamiya RB67. I’d love a Nikon Z6, but I’d still use it the way I’m shooting now, 1focus point, aperture priority, and I’d stick with the glass I’ve accumulated over the years. One of the things I like about the 7200, is that I can stick lenses from the 70’s on it without an adapter.
Totally agree with you! The thing for me with autofocus is when I'm shooting video. Sometimes i need reliable focus tracking which get better with the new cameras
Manual focus is so underrated. You can shoot birds with it better than autofocus in many situations and when compared to slow cameras it's not even THAT slow. Like I am not saying it's as good as the AF in something like a 7Dmk2 obviously but it's not impossible to shoot and be a photographer with it you know, people been doing it for decades.
I'm with you its focus and recompose for me I just don't get the need for loads of autofocus points and modes Letting the camera decide what to focus on usually ends in me swearing or tears
@@williamdocherty1437 I hear ya. Glad someone else gets it.
I'm really glad I watched your video. I think it's the first time I've ever heard anyone say "Use whatever camera you like or whatever you can afford, as long as it gets the job done!" I've had an 'old' (if you can call a camera released in 2008 old?) Nikon D90 for the past 18 months or so, and I love it! It was dirt cheap, compared to its original cost, and it was like new when I bought it, with a shutter count of 547! The only thing I really wish it did have is a fully articulating screen. But other than that it's perfect for my needs.
I am still rocking a canon 6d 80d and canon eos 1ds in 2020 no mirrorless in view
Great video! I'm about to be 44 years old and I've never owned a car with an automatic transmission. I'm old school. I enjoy the feel of a DSLR. I shoot in manual 95% of the time anyway, don't most photographers? I agree, mirrorless is the future. I saw this coming years ago, but DSLR's aren't going anywhere for a while. I'm looking forward to some cheap great glass that will come out of this change as well!
I love using my Canon R for street and for low light BUT lol I definitely rock with my canon 5Dmrkiii for everything because I take it everywhere I go because it's a work horse and I won't worry about dropping it lol
Finally an youtube video full of truth. A+ specially for that of bigger cameras, a lot of people including myself find it more confortable.
I'm so happy that there are so many no talent shooters telling the world to sell all their DSLR gear to get the latest and greatest whatever!!! I love shooting film, I love shooting digital and I love not putting all my money on gear that takes so much of the fun out of shooting!! Your points were spot on, so knock it off!! Nikon D4's are almost at that sweet spot on eBay!!! LMBO!!!
I dig my 6D mk1. Love an optical viewfinder, the size...mirrorless cameras are close to the same size now, so you’re not saving much weight or bulk when that was one of the main marketing points initially. They drain batteries like mad because they’re always running the LCD or EVF. Just overpriced, expensive nonsense for gear heads who care more about the gear than actually taking photos. I can see mirrorless being beneficial if you mainly shoot video. But if you just shoot photos...You need a camera that just gets out of the way, and mirrorless cameras are not that.
😎 Well done - good stuff • Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
one pro argument for mirrorless is the insanely improved focus. Many DSLRs have focus issues with slight front or back-focus. I'm still on a 5Dmk3 and I am definitely thinking about an R5 or R6 because of that. Also the EVF is a huge leap forward, seing the exposure preview... seeing in the dark literally, zebras for overexposure...
oh and for Canon, the shadow noise or basically the dynamic range or ISO invariance at least until the 5D3 was abysmal... if these cameras had the Sony Sensors (like the Nikon's have had) then I wouldn't think about switching....
Same thing with film. And that is still beeing used.
This is the video I needed to see. I have the Canon MK3 and some L series glass and have been very pleased. Although there was a learning curve for manual mode, I now really enjoy the "understanding of how it works" aspect. The high cost to go mirrorless (at this point) is offputting... especially when the equipment I have works great and I have everything I need.
My DSLRs suit me fine. I don’t need overpriced mirrorless bodies and lenses.
The key to getting better pictures is to become a better photographer. It's the person behind the camera that makes the difference..... I still love my Nikon D7200, and the Nikkor 18-200 and 200-500 zoom lenses.
It takes a lot of guts to put forth such facts in the world where everyone is following the herd..I am a DSLR user for last 8 years, I have not switched to mirrorless still,, not because of money, but because of the User Experience & the Process of taking photographs..two points that you have mentioned well here..
I fully agree with the 5 reasons you’ve stated to get a DSLR. I still have my Canon 50D and a 5D Mklll and the image quality I achieve from them are still comparable to the latest and greatest that mirrorless cameras can deliver. Moreover, I like your thought that it is the process rather than the end result alone that must be enjoyed in pursuing the art of photography. Keeping elements of skill than pure convenience. Thank you for another great video I enjoyed viewing.
While you might like the cameras, saying that they match the image quality that the "latest and greatest that mirrorless cameras can deliver" is objectively false. In some situations there are mid range APS-C cameras that outperform the 5D III in image quality.
Finally, You are absolutely right. I do own a 90D which is the DSLR. I love the lens options and I don't miss getting an EOS R. even though it was a full-frame camera.
I have been using a 7D markii for quite a while, and though i wouldn't mind getting the new R6 or R5 I can say I deliver to all clients the work they ask for and they're completely satisfied with it. It's a heck of a cam and built like a tank, and neither of those mirrorless cams can compete on that level.
I absolutely love my Pentax K-1. Great ergonomics, weather sealed, dual card slots, GPS, WiFi. For travel and video, I have the Fuji XT3. The best of both worlds.
Time for the benediction...nothing else to be said. Well done my Brother. I bought an 11-yr old dslr earlier this year to add to my stable-now I think through my compositions more-it stays. Peace be the journey. 🎯
Good discussion. So, my answer is yes. I have a Canon 5D Mark iii (just sold a 7D Mark II). But I this year I also invested in a Fuji X100F and a Fuji X-T3. And since the pandemic I started buying some old film cameras, mostly Nikons, and a few medium formats. I do this mostly because I love the feel of cameras in my hand, the different designs and weights, and the different experiences shooting them. I'm retired and this keeps me out of trouble, sort of. And it really is cheaper than a boat payment.
By far, one of the most unbiased opinion on Mirrorless vs DSLR!
Love my Nikon D850 DSLR and FX lenses and will not part with them. I like the weight and the firm grips on them. "Driven by our vision and not our gear." Perfect! The wisdom in your videos always astonishes me. Subscribed!
GREAT video... I still use my Nikon D90 DSLR which I bought way back in 2010 ...
I really love using this old camera. I will continue to use it until it dies. It still does EVERYTHING I need it to do.
The commentary in this video still holds true in 2021 and years to come!
For the last couple of months, I've been using an old Tokina lens from the 1980s with my DSLR and have got some damn good results.
the best part of my day is when i see a notification for one of your videos!!!!
I'll try to make more videos :)
As someone who has been using dsrs and mirrorless for the last 15 years, and still owns both, the two main frustrations with dslrs that can infuriate one are 1) lens adjustments. You will encounter lenses that will back and front focus and you won’t be ever able to successfully adjust them for all the focusing distances and 2) if you live and shoot in sunny climate, the fact that you took a shot and don’t know if u nail it or not and can’t see anything on your back display due to it been sunny. None of these problems exist with mirrorless cameras.
I totally agree with you! DSLRs are way more fun to shoot with and encourages the use of photography basics. Mirrorless is great for professionals but for enthusiasts a DSLR is more suitable.
I shoot sports for the local newspaper when there isn't a pandemic. I have met a lot of photographers, and most of them seem to shoot with DSLRs. When there is a pandemic, I mostly do landscapes, and I use a variety of different lenses, from super wide to tight zooms. I use a Nikon D850 and always shoot in manual mode. I have big hands also, and I like the way that DSLRs fit in my hand. I really don't see myself going to mirrorless any time soon. I have nothing against mirrorless cameras. A camera is a tool, it is the person that is standing behind it that makes the difference. Like you, I enjoy the process, and really have no opinion about mirrorless, because I have never used one. Probably when Nikon comes up with a professional, full frame, dual card slot, 50 megapixel mirrorless camera that can allow me to use my f-mount lenses (especially my 300mm f/2.8 sport lens), then I will think about getting one....after my D850 starts to give me trouble...until then I'll keep shooting with my DSLR. Will I pick up another full frame DSLR.....I have definitely been thinking about it.
I am a mirrorless user and I still agree with this video. I myself have switched to a Fuji xt3, as I want to get more into advanced video . But I do quite a bit of concert photography and 90-95% of photographers there still use dslrs. And I get their point: Full Frame dslrs are better in low light performance, a key element in concert photography, and even if they could use the great autofocus systems of the latest mirrorless models, most of the time they will be shooting musicians, mostly singers, who are in the center of the frame. And they don't care about video specs. I get great results from my Fuji and the live view mode works great for me, specially in small and poorly illuminated venues, but I wouldn't mind getting a used Nikon D800 or D750 one day, as I still have a 50mm 1.4 af-d which I sometimes use for film photography.
I love my 5d mkII and I still desire her more than anyone else and I want that she knows it by reading this.