Spending Money In the Church SHOULD Be Difficult | MxU Podcast 172
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- This is episode 172 of the MxU Podcast! Jeff and Spencer sit down with Nate Ellis and Josh Reeder-Esparza from the MxU team. They chat baseball, catch up on all things MxU and discuss a fairly hot topic. This one should get you thinking... spending money in the church should be difficult.
Service Review
The guys review a service from Harvest Church in Riverside, CA. The energy in the room is incredible and there is powerful work being done through the ministry of Teen Challenge. The team offers some critique on guitar volume and vocal compression, just some minor changes to polish off what is already a great mix.
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Spending Money in the Church Should Be Difficult
This might seem obvious... but we still hear from churches all the time "if I just had more money" or "if I could just get our new console approved" as if it will be the change they've always needed. And that might be true for some, but it's hard to believe that it's true for all. The guys give their take on this hot topic and discuss openly with their honest thoughts about financial stewardship in the church.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
10:26 Service Review
19:33 UC Metro
23:50 Spending Money In the Church Should Be Difficult
A couple years ago I was begging our church to get 2 Rio Stage Boxes to expand our channel capacity since we only had 16 channels of inputs on stage (including drums).
Our team had denied it since it was a large purchase and didn’t see a need for it at the time.
Although I didn’t like it, It forced me to be creative and we were able to free up channels by using a 8 channel Cisco Switch/Dante and we had also found 4 extra inputs underneath the stage from a previous stage plot and had a volunteer come solder them back together and were able to gain four more inputs on stage which gave us the ability to have more than enough with a fraction of the price.
We were able to steward people’s money well and come up with a solution and use a volunteers skill to help our department out.
This financial convo is so spot on. I see so many churches spending money right and left and it makes me wonder if they have forgotten that it is God's money. People have worked hard and given their tithes and offerings for us to steward and sometimes I wonder if that fact has been forgotten.
If a budget it made. That budget should be used in the best way possible. Not maxxed out like peoples credit. The people choosing what gets done with the money should have top credit to show they manage their own money well. Someone with very little debt. With the advice and counsel of people who are well versed in the areas that need upgrades or replacement. Not everyone needs line arrays or 100k mixers.
Agreed liner rays, and digico mixers are a luxury.
But I think the same can be said for churches with very poor sound gear that obviously need an upgrade and I’m not talking about affordable sound systems. I’m talking about cheap sound systems where the power amp turns off because it overheats or for some reason it just loses signal or the mixers channel just gives out when it wants to , but they somehow have in their budget to go for two weeks about 3 plus times out of the year to go to Guatemala
I love this convo, especially after dealing with second guessing a purchase that wasn't planned for. A couple weeks to a month ago i had a amp go out for the mains for the main room and had to purchase a new amp to replace it with but the downside was i didn't know how old the amps were so we had a conversation with the senior leadership and finance team about purchasing both main amps versus just the one (our auditorium is 3 rooms so we have three sets of mains)
I’m agreeable but I also really identify with Nate on the conversation. I have no issues with there being a process and I respect that process, but with some churches I’ve worked with that process was very unclear and inconsistent. Seemingly the process was super quick or even non existent for things that the power that be wanted or cared about (in the tens of thousands though they would say they had no money) but would drag on for years for anything audio related that we needed (even the most basic things). I think we have to constantly be checking heart posture up and down the “org chart”.
I was going to mention Colony House poster missing too. How about the ball cap sitting next to snare on table?
That is one.... BUT WAIT there's more!
@@mxurocksMore TN stuff. Mug sitting by the snare and license plate on the shelf with movie projector.
In business you meet the standards or you’ll get fined
The church is a business so it needs the standards not the luxury, but the standards
For example, a projector projector bulb goes out or brakes to buy another projector. It’s gonna be like $5000 or you can save up and get the LED wall which is better more clear about 10 K plus
Is the Easter egg the in ears on the shelf. Also the Colony house poster is gone.
The poster is gone, but not the easter egg! Also no, not ears - and thats actually a power cable. Nice try!
REVERB
I didn't know the people would miss the Colony House poster.
Put a CH in the comments if I need to convince my wife to bring it back to the studio 🐐
Standard/Necessities should be met and approved instantly
Luxury’s need to be considered not instantly approved
For example mixer goes bad needs to be replaced asap “maybe it’s time to get the upgraded one might as well
A/C goes bad needs to be replaced
Kids ministry need crayons or etc approved asap
Now for
Pastor wants to do events where easy 5k is going to be wasted when other areas are being neglected
It’s the stuffed dog tucked behind the guitar on the wall
Smokey has been there for a few weeks... Nice try but not it!
@@mxurocks shout out to Smokey