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Sometimes it's a bummer to see that professional producers really don't have some secret plug-in chain or anything and that the ultimate reason my production isnt as good as theirs is because I need to spend more time understanding production and less time thinking about what plug ins I need
Maybe he does has a secret plugin u wouldn’t know cuz it’s a secret
This is a sketch remind you, alot of the times the stock plugins will be switched out when sent for mastering
When u realise everything is simply about eq saturation and comp u realise you don’t need crazy new plugins. Its about your ears
@@Byronic19134 This wasn't even sent out for mastering. The audio coming straight out of these Ableton project files *ARE* the final masters.
The truth hurts
man, every time i see someone elses EQ curves I feel like i'm doing something wrong haha :p
mate tbh they aren't even that different to normal producers. you aren't doing anything wrong
@@tom7131 That is not true at all.
@@cowmcmoose94 it is true
@@tom7131 Yeah, they really do look like everyone else's EQs.
@@mbakutchalla exactly man. every producer i know uses those kind of curves on their eq. some simple, some more complex. nothing that you or anyone else can't do. skrillex isn't doing anything outside the ordinary
*starts throwing Pro-L2 on everything*
Wow, you found all easter eggs, good job :D
Hey..!
you will be pro professional
KRITAN hey oversampled
The Pro-L2 preset he uses is actually from Pro-L 1!
This is like the holy grail of project file breakdowns. Sonny is a genius with his music and this shows the time taken to create a Skrillex track.
the true magic is really how he makes all of his sounds and his sound design process and his arragement , thats what makes his sound different, this looks to be mixing still really crazy how much that goes into each of his tracks its mindblowing
i would assume that the flattened sounds had A LOT of processing before with probably third party plugins . The project he shows here is probably a V5 file where lightly mixes stuff not arrangement and sound design (judging from the tons of pro q 3 dynamic EQs and no compression etc)
Agreed. This is still super cool but I want to see a the original Serum patch with the midi and 14 plug-ins after it
yeah it all looks like bounced processed audio in there
for real man.. i'd love to see the processing on his drums
@@FUTrading I mean nowadays with the likes of Cymatics you don't need anymore processing on drums just the right samples
@@Byronic19134 ok skrillex
Skrillex has announced before that his laptop was broken and some of the projects, including upcoming EPs and tracks, was lost.
Wasn't that like in 2012 though? I remember hearing about how his laptop got stolen by some dudes in Italy who ended up leaking a couple tracks from there (most notably his Rob Zombie remix of "Sick Bubblegum")
@@thomasdebercey1709 source for this?
F
Mark Arca That was in 2012
@@thomasdebercey1709 In Italy a long time ago.
He was clipping in Fuji opener...I was like what....!?
@@user-dl8yo3wv1t ohh.. Didn't know that, Thanks for the info :)
Fuji Opener is clipped so heavily that the intersample peaking fucks with my car speakers
Could also be the ancient ass Bluetooth in the car… lol
Thank you Shadowick, you are the older brother we never had.
I'd be really interested in hearing what you think about Justice's early production and techniques, have you ever tried to achieve that sound? Haven't really heard anyone get that Cross sound and I think it'd be a sick video, attempting to cover the basis of a decent old Ed Banger style mix with today's software. (and yeah, I've seen all your French House videos, quite old but fantastic!)
Love your content, cheers!
Tavo Cello Me too
me too
Try Alex Ball. He's a master at recreating sounds. He did a Justice vid.
Garageband and hella distortion.
For anyone that's reading this looking for an answer as well, I've found all the secrets since I made that comment.
In summary, the secret sauce is the master channel. The easiest to mimic is SebastiAn, because his technique is minimalist and doesn't do much sound design. If you want to do Justice, it requires a shit ton of skill pulling off the correct vibe.
As a quick and undetailed example for Seb, raise highs, then overdrive slightly and multiband, then saturate very precisely and widen with more multiband, then a heavy compressor at the end.
This is insane, if i didn‘t know it was Skrillex I‘d say this is amateurish mixing, but listening to it it sounds great... i swear these big names have some magician that enchants their tracks before they get released. So simple but so amazing.
BlackPatz they do
Are you being serious? This isn't showing his full mixdown or process at all. All of the tracks are bounced down so the original effect chains & automation is not shown whatsoever. We only get to see the final polish of minor EQing and Compression at the end
+BlackPatz What on earth are you talking about? You need to understand what a stem is. There's loads of shaping and loads of decisions before you start mixing. That's what you're not understanding. Low IQ.
youre dumb
getyoursnackon on soundcloud does most of his post production stuff. Check him out; He's incredibly talented.
14:13 It is in Pro-L2's V1 Preset folder under "Single Channel".
If anyone wants the Presets from V1, I posted 'em on my Drive: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Z-AXauK5CFUwr3yUwI3M3sKBT20gkWA5?usp=sharing
You can just drag them into your Documents/ FabFilter/Pro-L 2 folder. Pro-L 2 will recognize the new folders & presets on you restart the plugin.
This is a really good video. I love the commentary and it's great to learn more how these folks like Skrillex and others make their music. It's cool to hear the song and then see how different sounds were processed.
Damnn! You need to work as a data analyst for the FBI haha very impressive
He sampled the drums that’s in the intro of Fuji opener from the egyptian empire horn track or whatever
Whooooaaaa Egyptian Horns? Is that track right near the end of Bassnectar's Freestyle Mixtape?
"That is a spicy meatball"
Lmao that was great. This whole vid is a spicy meatball! Awesome dissection and analysis!
Wild life
Talent of Skrillex so that people are investigating each sound and notes of a song
13:55 the Pro L2 preset Vocal Transparent MTK Skrillex uses can be found in the Single Channel preset menu of the first version of Pro L. The settings are the same except the gain.
Concerning the Pro L2 he used the previous version(Pro L)...the Vocal transparent preset.
Love the Trailer Park Boys reference. "...it's not rocket appliances" lmao!
11.57
his spectrum size on the proq's is set to 30dB, not the normal 12dB. so you're more looking at 10dB reduction, not 5dB.
I've never heard of you before, but your voice is beautiful so you've gained my support. Carry on.
His Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites or Equinox file must be chaotic honestly. Hahaha
True
Yeah def. He used a bunch of massive ksd files that he made with or by Noisia in the time he spent with them in their studio infamously. To me, those early dubstep tracks would be even cooler to analyze! But this is so amazing to see. So many great youtube exposition vids based on these als files!! great stuff
I think skrillex's sound is mystical because he doesn't try sound like anyone else.
Track 42 of Fuji Opener says "Maluca Voc" which I guess is from the artist Maluca which Diplo and Dillon has worked with in the past.
Losanto Music yup she is apparently the vocalist for the original demo from 2015. And for that unreleased Jack U track called El Cuco.
I noticed in some streams that deadmau5 also uses pro L as a compressor in his instrument channels a lot
Lots of platinum producers ride or die with Pro L, and the results speak for themselves.
Egyptian Horn Track sounds like it could be the Febreze intro instrument
these are obviously very subtle final touches on tracks resamples many times , not revelant of skrillex overall process
i like watching this at 1.5 speed. thx for the vid and the knowledge sadowick
Lol right?
Worth mentioning on the Dynamic EQ on the Pro-Q3 he did; It's set to linear phase medium-'mode' and also you can see the decibels to the right, so it's probably a -10 to -15db gain reduction, which is probably a decent number since the whole mix is pretty squashidy-squashed.
Well, I found out today that me and skrillex actually share a lot of the same mixing “techniques” which is super surprising actually. I’ve never really been one to overproduce so to say, I like to keep things simple and not super flashy mainly because it works for me personally and it’s simply just a part of my workflow. I feel like going into too much detail and precision just adds stress and times when I have done that I end up leaving the track because I’m trying to make it too perfect. This is awesome and I hope sonny makes more videos like this and maybe goes into a little more detail.
"Where is that preset?"
"Safe?"
"Probably not..."
You mentioned at 15:27 skrillex uses a Limiter on his drum buss to give it that nice crunchy sound. When I apply the Limiter to the Drum Bus on FL Studio the Plugin Latency compensation doesn't kick in at all throwing the whole project off track! I mainly wanted to know does Ableton handle PDC flawlessly? I'm really deciding to make the switch soon!
probably the limiting is done with the project the file that is just audio. If you have alot of shit going on then maybe it could be a CPU issue.
PDC for FL has been fixed since FL 20, there shouldn't be any issues. Fl handles PDC perfectly fine
Okay ableton does PDC well, and so does cubase. Cubase is a little cheaper, but ableton is pretty freaking great (better be for the price). I use both myself.
Same man I had FL for about 2 years, eventually I couldn't handle the PDC anymore and just made the switch. Super glad I did tbh.
Ever since FL 20, I haven't had a single PDC related issue.
If anyone else is looking for more info, check out Ahee's video too. He picks up on things that you missed Sadowick Prod. But you also fill in things that he missed. Lots of things in this were great, thank you!
Little things: that "valentino Khan" track, is a sample from his track slam dunk with valentino. He just wanted to take the vocal sample. Reckon he just couldn't find the stem
i was watching that video thinking "i need to sit down and figure out what everything in his channels are doing"
thank you
Should do a comparison with one of his first tracks and see how his production and process has changed over the years.
It kind of looks like those deactivated eqs and effects were done by skrillex and he just scrapped them and put his own eq on it but didnt want to delete the original ones.
The 100% OTT vocal running in Parallel with the dry vocal is confusing me so much. Shouldn’t it cause phase issues due to the frequency spikes caused by the crossover points in the Multiband plugin?
TheBlashMusic Don’t matter if it sounds cool
Maybe OTT is linear phase?
@@ggeessttaalltt I agree, I'm just curious.
TheBlashMusic honestly same, I think you’re right but I’ve seen other producers use what you’re referring to intentionally, check out current value’s masterclass. He uses the crossover points in eq3 intentionally to create artifacting in some of his sounds, he says it tightens them up if you set the crossovers at the right frequencies, which makes sense if you think about it from the perspective of a weird notch filter or something. I think multiband would do the same thing/uses the same engine?
TheBlashMusic also, I theorize that disperser by kilohearts works on the same principles. Not sure on this so don’t quote me on it but it seems to sound similar, albeit more pronounced.
I feel like be just fucks around with sounds a lot when hes on a plane ride and just saves all the presets he comes up with. Plus he has all these people he works with showing him tips and tricks. Hes basically a music production guru. If he ever made a masterclass or something I'd buy the shit out of it. Thing is I think he wants people to experiment and not copy him so I get his secrecy.
the vocal transparent MTK preset is an old preset from pro l 1 brought into pro l 2
I think this is a second stage version of his project meant for stem mastering. There are no sound designing plugins that show how anything was created, just audio clips, EQs, compressors, and limiters to mix and master what was previously created. Given the raw track and grouping structures, it looks like he did a freeze/flatten on the OG project then showed us the final mixdown / mastering process with perhaps a little bit of editing to polish it all up. Not what we all expected on first glance but still crazy valuable to see his final mastering process.
NotOnceNotNever i agree. I believe a lot was left out when it was flattened. We can only see the tip of the iceberg here.
very important for the community
delighted you made this video, I caught the Skrillex videos the other day and thought it needed doing !! You are the don !
Wonder what the buffer size was used in this project.
I believe some of those vocals are mp3 while others are wav is due to his ableton settings somehow creating a compressed audio file whenever he cuts a section of audio and then consolidates it.
Either that, or whatever the program he has assigned in Ableton for editing clips does the same (saves as a more compressed format, such as mp3 in this case.)
That's not how it works. You made that up.
@@atomicalertgames lol I did make it up, I never said it was factual. I tried to figure out why/how it would happen right there on the spot, and typed out my idea.
It's also interesting that he bounced out all sounds. No synths here.
That’s the MacBook Pro bounce life😂
I guess you don't have a choice when you have 100+ tracks in your project
Kit Traverse with a good computer you do
I think its a clear decision. If you bounce you decide something. And thats good thing in a creation process for your flow and for going on.
Lmon Tandon Second that
Could be a previous preset on the L-2, but what I know is that you can save your own presets lol....
I first heard this drop in 2016 when Skrillex posted a 20 sec video on Instagram.
I was really ecstatic when he dropped the song after 4 years🥺
Skrillex on 5% there and he's still boosting ableton while recording.... Mad respek
Guys , any ideas on what is in those bus channel ?? I've been trying to implement this kind of template in my production , but i'm light years away from achieving a mix that clean :')
Skrillex used a virtual riot bass loop in ping-pong song
bruh
Skrillex is the GOAT
21:55 - fuji opener
That is a spicy meatball....die'd there!
You are awsome, keep em coming
LOL.. Everyone always think the "Big Names" have secrets, chains, tricks (me too at my begining), but once you progress and also you meet "Big names" along the way and see their projects you realize there are aint "magic" secrets. Its 100% their production and creativity experience. I mean - PERIOD. It seems that what you were looking for ;) you won't find it, cause there's no secret :D
really glad to see you back here my dude, very interesting analysis
very dope video bro! I was hoping someone would do a analysis video !
This was actually really cool to watch, thanks dude
Skrillex absolute legend
Very interesting video, thank you Sadowick!
I always had a feeling his project files would be a mess. Cool nonetheless.
In regard to the MP3 vocal cuts I wouldn’t be surprised if he recorded it using his phone.
Oh man I was so hoping someone would do this! You rock thank you!
this is lowkey ASMR
High key
Rocket Appliances LOL. Shoutout to Ricky from TPB
awesome stuff. a quick question, how did u configure the audio of what's ever software u using for recording ur desktop. I have uad, but i haven't figured out how to get the audio recorded while recording my desktop :(
Hybrid mix , Analog + Plugins , I feel so impressed in the waveform of this track, is literally peaking but it sounds clean Af..
andrew gold is the dj/producer “team ezy”
So glad your breaking this down I wanted to myself just haven't had the time
Rocket Appliances xD Nice thinkin Rick
I dont understand why there are so many tracks? All I can hear is simple stuff like Drums, synths and percussion, why the hell are there like 80 tracks?
That’s what makes it sound so magical. Layers upon layers.
A lot of them are just muted. Probably ideas that didnt work with the track so he just muted them instead of deleting. Also like Travis said, layers.
His projects depress me. I'll never have file projects like that lmao, crazy.
"He used a preset, where is that? ... Safe? Probably not.."
Lol
I had no idea you could do that stuff with FabFilter Pro-Q 3. *mind blown*
when u buy plugins at least read the manual
@@YungCorpsey666 I don't own it.
@@PUR3vil oh
I have two questions:
1.:
Is anybody realized that in his videos date and time are exactly the same, which means they edited booth videos and before recording he probably removed some plugins too, just look at his cpu in Ableton. I believe that in the video you hear the exported track, not the recorded video's sound. When I play one of my songs in Ableton, cpu is around 150% and can't even listen to it until I export it. I have an Intel i7 6700HQ cpu. He probably working on the latest Mac, but I doubt that it would play a project this big without the cpu getting over 100%, but I might by wrong.
2.:
At 19:48 in iZotope Insight, why does Sound Field looks like when you add "Left" audio effect with -50 Panorama?
Anyone reply to this!
Imagine KOAN Sounds files. Jesus.
I wanna see the files for Sentient or Talkbox KTN remix
@@zakp.2759 well last year they gave out stems for sentient, and I like many others ended up remixing it. It was actually shocking how small the stems were. Guess size isn’t everything
cmon Default Audio effects are dope
This is so awesome man🤘 thanks for the upload!
He does not cut unneccessary unused frequencies from his channels? Not even sub frequencies in a high end sound? Or is that part just not visible? I'm not a ableton user. Would someone mind explaining?
There is no way he doesn't cut rambling sub frequencies on high frequency synths/samples.
I assumed the camelphat was acting as a limiter... probably with all the modules turned off
Yup. That is exactly what it is.
clipper, not a limiter
@@urigeheadmot1196 yes.
Urigehead Mot limiters are clippers 😂
@@Domiviio You're completely right, but it seemed worth mentioning to me, because you can't really change the limiting characteristics of Camelphat, which are always clipper like (0 atk 0 release), but can in other limiters! So you can only use camelphat to limit clipping style, a limiter like l2 on the other side can limit and clip!
it looks like he plays a lot with the global output of OTT, I've noticed that on different channels.
Extra crispy !! Thank you
"are you a vibe reader" lmao
What is the screen size you are using for Ableton?
Anyone know how he did the effect at 20:20? I've heard anything like that. Is it distortion/compression?
Just sounds like massive brick walling into a limiter and clipping to me
@@michaelluciano1980 Yeah basically but being downsampled right before it probably with like redux or something. D-16 devastator can give you those sounds.
He’s just clipping the sound
Distortion on camelphat
Rocket appliances!! Ha!!! I almost choked on my pepperoni!
skrillex💕
looking at skrillex project file, damn he probably uses crazy settings and automations, nah, just regular stock settings, and basic dry/wet automations, cool
nah, he bounced all that to audio already. Thats how the project opens so fast. What you see is probably post-production audio level shit
Did you not notice the insane routing and bussing though?
He doesn’t need to use a compressor if he has a multiband compressor on it.. the pro l is so it doesn’t clip more than likely bruh
Do you see how much compression some of the limiters are doing? 15 db in some cases. Pay attention
@@nicholas6870 He's nuking nearly all of his tracks for his sound. Beautiful and metal af
Trailer park boys reference in there
Thanks for the breakdown 😁
This sounds like the song he used for the Kingdom Hearts 3 opener!
Enjoyed this analysis better than the track itself...
how can i see those project files?
On Skrillex's channel
Do you think you could start releasing your Ableton project files Sadowick? That would be great to examine those.
This Skrillex is amazing! He doesn’t hear what compressor does so he uses limiter. He be like fuck the rules I do what sounds good
I don't mean to rag at all but seeing as you have the know-how, could you add a de-esser to your voice when making the videos? I listen to CZcams through my studio monitors and the s-sounds were really piercing to my ears :Z
super cool video.. thanks!
do a video on Justice compression