My PS4 is an Awful Steam Deck
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It accidentally got cut from the video, but I rebooted after the initial installation and I selected the 4GB system memory/ 4GB VRAM mode option for all of the gameplay
@@kiooasiege Yeah. 4GB is overkill for the slow Radeon, and 4GB for the OS + game is really low
I think it can push more power but requires alot of optimization I guess, did you try any other emulators like 3ds and Saturn ?
@Bringus Studios GG for the project and I'm really happy to hear. Although, I had a question, is it possible to try with BO3 and steam maps such as Mori Rebirth, Leviathan, or nuketown, or some others ?
That "random pc" you found is the EXACT pc my sister uses. I use one that has similar specs. Yes I game on it and stream EVERYTHING to CZcams. Let the jank begin!
its funny how getting the deck stuff is useless now because new big picture is literally the steam deck ui
There’s a poetic justice to doing this to a Destiny-themed PS4, because Bungie has yet to allow Steam Deck/end user Linux support even though their game would run absolutely fine on proton, not to mention an existing Linux version of the game being freed from Stadia’s demise.
while it sounds dumb, Destinys community has been toxic against the steam deck and linux because they think it would lead to more cheating
very dumb and very stupid but Bungie is just trying to avoid pissing off their players, which they end up doing anytime they breathe
@@flamingscar5263 I agree, the community can be far too toxic on occasions. Toxic takes based on bad information is just bad though.
The facts are:
1. Proton compatibility layer supports compatibility with Battleye and Easy Anti-cheat
2. Other games with these anti-cheat systems in place work just fine on Linux.
3. Destiny 2’s Stadia version was optimized for Linux (albeit locked down due to cloud gaming intentions)
Probably a net positive for the world that less people have access to destiny
Honestly still baffles me that people play this lame game
@@gandalfurisotherworldly7909 It keeps people coming back by releasing new content regularly. Other games have tried to hit that same rhythm and failed.
"The tried and true method of mashing Enter to get passed the error" This is the kind of relatable content we all come here for.
what
@@XENON2028 what
facts and pretty much works in everything. In Valheim, when trying to sleep and you get the error that there are "Enemies Nearby", just spam the Z key for sleep and it will get past the soft error and you will get a good night's rest.
60% of the time, it works every time.
A heads up: the shutdown on Linux is simply “poweroff”
Lol I saw him type shutdown and I was like, hey wait PS4's don't run Windows.
Yeah I'm spoiled by Ubuntu lmao
@@BringusStudios sudo shutdown -h now i think works on systemd distros
wasn't shut down now?
@@BringusStudios Didn't know Ubuntu had it's own command. I use Ubuntu spins and "poweroff" work on those so I never tried anything else. lmao
The stutters are because of the 1 gb vram (it has to use swap), the fact that it's running off of USB (also swap), and just poorly configured proton. This could run much much better if we can get it on the internal hard drive.
Which in this case wouldn't work either, because the internal HDD for the ps4 runs on the USB bus anyways
@@mzziliac oh shit no wonder it's so damn slow
@@hollyc5417 as per my previous comment,
The sata 2 connector inside the PS4 runs on the same bus as the USB 3 ports on the outside. .
You are limited to the theoretical 5GB/s speeds.
The USB drive he's using in the video isn't a USB stick, it's a hdd in an enclosure that is connected through USB
@@mzziliac that's abysmal why is that done that way
To laugh at R emarkable noobs who think ps4 hardware is the reason for them failing. This video just show ironically how a 12 yo kid would boot ps4 on a hardware as a rescue pendrive becouse he never has installed a os from terminal before. Only difference is that is not a kid but a 30 PLUS old guy hilarious!
If you're encountering stutters try lowering your mouse hz, in some instances that will be the culprit. 1000hz can be too much sometimes for certain game engines and the PS4's CPU since controllers run at 125hz
it sounds a lot more like proton vulkan shader caching tbh
@@robonator2945 it depends on the title
Not just game engines, but mainly for the cpu. It is a huge task for old cpus to work with 1000hz mouse, so if you encounter issues on 1000hz, try lowering it to 500 or further.
Controller running on 125hz, though, might not be the limitation of ps4, at least by itself. You should consider that controller released in 2013 is wireless with poor battery uptime, so they might not see the sense in increasing polling rate.
@@Hybred not really, he said it specifically occured whenever he went into a new area, that matches basically exactly with vulkan shader caching.
That's funny
The lags if your moving the mouse fast are because your CPU can't handle high polling rate. Turn down the mouse polling rate to 250 Hz in the drivers
If you install a SSD as the internal drive, I can see the performance improving by a lot more
Yeah but that doesn’t mesh with his clickbait title for the video. It’s too sensible to actually do it properly.
@@Liofa73 He tried. Did you watch the video?
The base PS4 couldn't utilise sata 3
@@shahtayyib so? You think that only linear transfer matters?
@@damiank9443 I mean hell, SATA 3 running at SATA 2 speeds is just not going to make a massive performance increase. Sure it might be a little more reliable, since (especially old) hard drives have always kinda sucked, but it's not gonna be a game changer.
Blame Sony for using outdated technology 4 years after a new standard was released so they could push an upgraded model more easily
My ps4 has been collecting dust after I got my ps5, now I know what to do with it. Thank you and you just got a new subscriber
Kitty found warm spot and got comfy.
EDIT: This stuff is not necessary anymore because shader compilation has changed. DXVK_ASYNC option is gone now.
Playing DirectX games could be improved using GE-Proton and DXVK_ASYNC=1 environment variable which can help with stutters a lot. I had huge issues with MW3 often dropping down to 30FPS on my gaming PC and async made it run at stable 120+ FPS. Maybe it could make some DX games playable since PS4 has slow CPU cores but 8 of them.
Just get an xbox, it's cheaper than getting a $10000000 hunk of hot garbage that will probably be unusable by 2 weeks, don't risk it, just get a console
i dont think that is the problem its more of driver issue i mean the cpu shares gddr5 memory faster ram but way higher latency on the cpu side which tanks already bad performance
@@GGYTTHEYT hahahahaha wtf?
Even on Steamdeck, DXVK_ASYNC is a godsent for non steam games.
Imagine how much better a PS4 would compile shaders with this command.
@@Wesmoen lmao that guy never owned a pc in his life
Now I wonder what would happen if you tried running spider-man remastered on PS4 through steam
Late to the party, but regarding the stuttering at 8:20 -
This is likely caused by a common linux gaming process called "shader compilation", and is a side effect of a game originally programmed on windows running on linux. The game is made with two types of code, CPU code and GPU code. Luckily, the CPU code works out of the box (not really, but for all intents and purposes, not much needs to be changed). The GPU code, AKA the "shader programs" are written in windows style "DirectX" code, but needs to be translated to linux style "Vulkan" code. This translation is intense and can cause stutters in the game. The good news is that the translations are saved! Once a particular stutter takes place in the game, it means that the translation for that little bit of GPU code is complete and will never happen again. The more you play a particular game in linux, the smoother it will run! Eventually, it will all get translated and the game will always run smooth. Some games can bypass this whole process by running a long update before the game runs, named the "shader pre-caching". Apex legends is an example of a game that I know does this.
half life 2 has a native linux build and doesn't run through proton
Now if only Half-Life 2 was a Proton Title!
I mean, the PS4 is running a CPU that's basically an old FX8350 which is really a 4-core/8-thread chip due to how certain parts of the hardware that makes a core a "core" was shared between pairs of "cores" on the old FX line.
So I'm not surprised a 2-core/4-thread Intel Sandy Bridge/2nd Gen Core-i circa 2011 was able to beat the AMD CPU from the mid-late 2000's that's powering the PS4.
Would you say the FX line was so bad it almost bulldozed the company?
@@Hami10101 I mean, it just about did in the CPU market for a long time.
My current working hypothesis is that AMD was able to bid a CPU/GPU combo (since AMD bought out ATI during the PS3/X360 lifespan) low enough in price and high enough in volume of silicon to produce them, for Sony & Microsoft to take it up, and the healthy sales of PS4 & XB1 gave AMD enough revenue to complete the R&D to bring Zen (Ryzen, EPYC, Threadripper) to market and finally claw back ground they lost to Intel thanks to the FX series failure.
@eLNeroDiablo And to go full circle, the development of Zen2 and RDNA2 made the Series S, X, PS5, and Steam Desk possible. One generation of consoles fuels the next.
I really want to see some Intel CPU consoles again though. Imagine Microsoft decides they want a custom chip from Intel's new FAB program. The OG Xbox must live on.
its more akin to the socket AM1 cpus, nothing more than a cheap mobile chip
it's way worse than an fx8350. the jaguar cores are mobile cpus. the fx8350 was about on par single core with a 2100 and obliterated it in multicore applications.
this makes you realize how optimized these gaming systems really are!
They better be
no its linux and poor drivers also these games where first made for windows so if there was a way to make good custom windows drivers and get windows installed on it games would run much better
cpu is about as good as a FX8120 just the fz8120 has faster clock speed but maybe the ps4 can be overclocked?
and the graphics is about as good as a AMD Radeon HD 7850
@@MrJ0mmy nah it just proves how optimized the systems had to be to run all of these games at steady frame rates with good graphics
@@MrJ0mmyPS4 linux can be overclocked, but the throttle here would be the PSU not giving enough power to maintain the CPU stable.
@@rbdshadow7272 oh yeah, I saw Linux tech tip video when they used the pc equivalent to an Xbox one s and it’s WILD how much performance they get out of these things
nice to see that you're making a series off of running steam deck ui on other hardware lol. I think you should try running steam deck ui on an xbox next. keep up the good work man
not really possible, since there is no linux environment and xbox is now already nine years old.
@@linuxization4205 honestly, I said "he should try running steam deck ui on an xbox" without checking if it's even possible to install linux on it lol, my bad
@@GuardianSpeed Ignore him, he didn't check too and doesn't know about Free60 🤫
@@linuxization4205 which one? that one with Pentium 3, PowerPC, Jaguar or Zen? At least in three of them I've seen running Linux, Mr. Linuxization, lol.
@@AMV12S Steam Deck OS is obviously AMD64 only, and so would the UI since it is proprietary. So get Pentium 3 and PowerPC out of the way. And you can't run Linux on either Jaguar or Zen models.
0:13 Using the SteamOS startup sound as a swear filter is a stroke of genius.
Keep the mad content coming Bringus
I'm waiting for the day until Linux on the PS5 is a thing.
That'd be lovely, but gotta hope none of this shit happens.
Someone needs to hack it. Should be possible, but definitely not easy
Nah I want it on the Series S
A $250 mini linux with a rtx 2060 and dope-ass cpu. Now that's something!
@@yol_n Due to how locked down the Xbox is since the Xbox One, and the fact that nobody has hacked it yet, chances are pretty slim.
@@TheRadmin1724 only a matter of time before we can play stuff on the edge browser tho, you could with Stadia
@@yol_nrtx 2060? Series S GPU is like gtx 1660
I've watched 45 seconds of this video in the intro compelled me to subscribe. Well done, doesn't happen often.
Oh god bringus, like how did you even do this?
Watch the video to find out?
It's been a thing for 5 years+ now
Old news.
Linux is better on PS4 it has all the gaming drivers.
For online gaming &
Emulators.
A lot of games run very good
Even the PS5 jailbreak have been out for a while now.
Now, do a PS5
No do a PS6
No do on xbox 720
No do a ps3 😐
@@Eva01sinamosgenesisdude💀
Dedotated Wam is such a throwback, sick reference my dude
I actually had an idea like this. But it’s the other way around. Putting a ps4 onto a steam deck or turning a ps4 into a steam deck sized handheld. I want a mobile ps4 to take my saves with me to play.
A lot of the stuttering problems are probably because it's running off USB.
Or because it’s an HDD. A usb SSD wouldn’t have the same speed issue
USB speeds are brutal, this whole video is total clickbait because he hasn’t done it properly.
@@Liofa73 true i tried Linux on PS4 with a 2.0 usb and a 3.0 usb and the difference is massive
@@normalchristiano2276was the performance actually good for Modern games? Considering doing this with my old ps4 to play modded elden ring because I don’t have a gaming pc, but if it can’t run it or any semi-modern games then it’s not worth it to me, and I’ve only seen people test this with older games and emulation
0:10....The part of the Steam Deck Bootup Sound 😂😂😂
Would be cool to see how it runs on a PS5 if that ever gets some good jailbreak exploits.
we just need a hypervisor exploit for it pretty much to be able to do most stuff the ps4 is able to. (we already have a userland exploit (webkit) and kernel exploit for it. so we're like just a step away.
@@ConfusedDiscunfortunately a hypervisor by nature is the hardest thing to crack, I don't think it's impossible but I do think it's not happening anytime soon, like 10+ years soon. :(
@@SuperTort0ise I mean I wouldn't say 10 years lol. Ik it's hard to find an exploit for, but that is if sony implemented it 100% correctly, which isn't really possible, and they can't do much about it on earlier versions. I just mentioned that we're just a step away. I would probably give it 8 months to a year untill we see something. There are great devs in the scene, and many bounties on hacker one that are yet to be disclosed.
@@ConfusedDisc yeah I guess I'm giving Sony a little too much credit I just think after all they've been through they'd really try to make it good.
I wonder how much Sony is going to pay out for a hypervisor exploit? $500k?
@@SuperTort0ise usually 10k at most depending on the severity (like kernel exploits and webkit) but they've done a bit more in the past. I think the ps4, and their older stuff didn't have a hypervisor, so we can't know for sure how much they'd give for it.
I'd love to see more games played on this, maybe some newer stuff like Risk Of Rain 2 or Deep Rock Galactic, or other games some people may suggest. I'd love to see more stuff done on this as weird as it sounds.
I have that same Cherry keyboard, but mine's beige and PS/2. What switches does yours have? Mine has 2004-era MX Blacks.
That's awesome, I've got a ps4 pro. Never really thought of jailbreaking it though as I use it to remote play into my ps5
Imagine watching this on a PS4 you downloaded a Linux distro on.
I'm actually watching these videos on a PS4 running Linux lol
@@lenoirx based as fuck
You could just install the bare minimum of Debian, and from tty setup the steamOS UI and software from there. A Debian base is extremely lightweight compared to archlinux.
It uses 200-300mb ram with the i3 window manager. If you don't care about desktop mode; you can significantly improve the experience by cutting it out/replacing it with i3.
Arch is literally one of the most basic distros. Debian is bloated by default. Also ps4 arch distro already uses some light wm that should take like no ram at all
I’m not a hardcore Linux dude, I’ve only casually used merely Linux Mint for only a year. But based on what little I know about the distros, how in the hell is Debian lighter weight than Arch?!
Is not but this is not vanilla arch this a port probably bloated with malicious software. If your going to try this you should at least do it with real arch
How good is the emulation like for Ds, 3ds and Wii ? I know it can do retro, Dreamcast, Saturn to some Wii U and PS3 hardly so wanted to know about the ones I mentioned
You make stuff what would drive me up a fuckin wall very funny. I love your projects and you do a very good job on these videos keep up the good work!
Your humour and presentation reminds me of Michael MJD and Scott The Woz (specifically his deadpan delivery on his second channel, not the energetic scripted stuff)
Great showcase of the arch distro on the ps4 including the steam deck UI that is now the default big pic mode on steam, this seems like only worth it if you don't already have a PC of some kind and I'm pretty sure to make the flash drive you need to jail break it you definitely need a PC or at least to use a freind's computer. you can install Linux pretty much on anything so this really is not worth the hassle better use of the jail break is to simply play pirated games or homebrew games or emulators on the ps4 or old ps2 games converted into ps4 playbles through the built-in emulator on the ps4. but cool to see what you can do on arch running on the PS4.
You would only need a laptop with lower specs than the ps4 to install and play steam on the ps4, and surely that’d run better than a low spec laptop
@@cshep0551 I mean just the combined cost of a laptop and a ps4 alone would get a pretty decent gaming laptop so idk what you mean
Thanks for installing and trying TFC, that made my day
Those monitor shots added to the chaos.
Your kitty is very cute! That mod process looked tedious!
RIP John McAfee. He definitely didn’t k*ll himself.
You should play around with Proton GE Custom next time when you're launching some of these games on SteamOS, may help.
Out of curiosity, does the CryoUtilities software work? Is there a performance boost?
Gotta love the DK country music, jamming TF out RN
The Jaguar cores where created for low end, low powered laptops and nothing more, yet they powered all last generation Sony and Xbox consoles.
Idk what you did but I like it.I’ve got a ps4 slim on 9.03 is it possible to do this or do I have to wait ?
You have to wait
Imagine PS5 doing this ,switch and PS3 even 360 im sure it could breeze threw
the switch and the ps3 isn't that bad, but the 360 had a bunch of protective stuff so you would have to solder on a chip to the motherboard to really do anything 😕
@@karmakrew60 i think he's talking about emulation
Ignorance is a blisz
love your videos, my favorite tech channel
Would you be willing to try this again or a ps4 slim or series s
considering the setup is doing anything at all when u launch a game with 1 GB Vram is kind of amazing to be honest
you have way more patience then me. Subscribed!
All this stuff like game streaming side loading apps etc is doable on a Xbox stock right ?
I'd love to see you try to instal Steam OS... on a PS Vita
Next up trying to get Linux on a 3ds
That does exist. If you browse the updater app you can find it.
Honestly this is really cool. Even if it's not going to run AAA PC titles or anything, it's already a PS4 so you can play PS4 games in it (duh). Might as well expand it with some retro gaming potential and play some indie titles on steam.
i have that same ps4, its updated so i dont think its gonna be a steam deck anytime soon
Is it possible too boot chimera with the new thing ?
How did you manage to use horizontal grids at 8:04?
Now for part two where you make it portable and add a backpack, battery and a Vita for remote play and Moonlight streaming.
what happens when you restart the console? Do you go back to the PS4 home menu or are directly put into the steamOS?
The entire OS runs off of the external USB disk and you have to run that website to boot it every time, so every time you reboot it it's back to a normal PS4.
This is officially the SteamStation 4
I really want to do this. I don’t want to play any graphically intensive AAA games, just early access indie games and things like Despots Game, FTL, etc. that aren’t available on PS4.
Is it possible to change your ps parts im thinking of buying a ps4 and jailbreaking it into a emulation machine
Installing Linux on PS4 really highlights just how much of a miracle it is the types of games devs get running on that hardware with targeted optimisation honestly
I had wanted to try this with an older version of the Steam OS for PS4, thank you for saving me from doing that, lol
Any chance of you redoing this on a PS4 Pro?
0:50 if I fits I sits 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thing is, does the ps4 have virtualization extension enabled on its processor. If it does, then you can run Windows XP at fullspeed without emulation.
I have a script that runs another script to run xp on boot on my laptop.
Script one is essentially:
(trap 'kill 0'; ((qemu + args here) & (sh script2.sh) && wait))
Script two is essentially:
Sleep 5s;
vncviewer -fullscreen=1 ":5900";
Basically, SDL isn't working for me on kqemu and when the simulated monitor changes resolution with gtk mode, it doesn't scale correctly and just looks bad.
Basically, we have a vncclient that connects to the VM which allows correct scaling when resolution changes. Best part is that it closes when the VM is terminated. So it almost looks like windows xp is booting up natively on my computer.
You can get working dx9-dx11 using the software rendered mesa3d gallium llvm opengl.dll from fossarena (?) Where it says Mesa3d for windows, and you chose an older version, version Mesa 13 and it is a drop in replacement for the opengl dll included with xp.
And with the combination of onecore API and wined3d for windows you can run pretty much anything without graphics drivers Upto dx11.
And with onecore API, xp can run the latest version of chromium. You have to use otterbrowser to even download things, but can be replaced with the latest chromium binaries built on GitHub.
Steam client doesn't seem to work, but I was able to use steamCMD on xp to download and run my games in [current year].
If you want a really really terrible way to play games on the ps4 install xp as a VM.
when you were talking about glitch ad was came like a glitch.😂😂😂😂
The ps4 uses shared VRAM and SYSTEM RAM. That means the graphics "Card" (its a part of the cpu in ps4) shares normal system memory.
So in your setup you have the graphics part of the processor 1gb ram and the system 7gb of ram. That is fair enough. In some situations mayby like 2gb VRAM and therefore 6gb system ram would be better. Especially on higher resolutions and higher texture quality / more modern games.
i was just about to point that out, when he was trying to run doom i was just like theres no way to run that on 4gbs of ram but the cpu and gpu should be able to run it with very low settings.
2GB of VRAM wont boot up many new games tho, i wish there was a 2.5-5.5 mode
@@luluthecat1570 would they boot with that little system ram then?
@@EnzoBergstrom idk probably, he played games with 4gb of ram in the video
This is the stuff of absolute legend
Can you install windows 11 on a snapdragon 8+ gen 1 or an 8 gen 2?
Can the PS4 run Sonic Generations, Lost World, Adventure 1, and/or Adventure 2?
Lastest Goldhen shows the Southbridge in system info
Could you get Steam OS onto an old iPad? (With Project Sandcastle?)
It's really funny how somebody tagged you mentioning Among Us at 9:29 as a filler in SponsorBlock.
No way lol that's actually really funny
This video is very entertaining. The really basic computer stuff like changing file systems, usb speed, reading instructions for the thing you're actually using that you miss, I realised after a while had to be part of the whole experience you bring to your viewers for entertainment value so... Nice work on that!
Glad to see the ITA team is still developing CFW for Sony consoles man I miss those days ,I wonder what DeanK, Joonie and habib are up to now days
people have been working on ps5 exploits
Me just nodding and agreeing out loud through every step like i know whats going on 😅
6:07 What's the command he's running to start in steamos mode?
I wonder if it would be possible to install steam OS on the Switch. I doubt it could run many games due to the ARM based CPU but would still be a neat experiment
not that easy since as far as im aware, there is no compiled version of steamos for arm, it might be possible though if someone does do it
@@chickerinoradio6617 but in this video for example he isnt actually installing real steamos, just installing steam and running it in steam deck mode
so if you count what this video did as installing steamos, installing steamos is probably possible on switch (with some x86 emulator ??)
@@aprilnya at that point, why not just use linux for arm then?
SteamOS doesn't work on the Switch but you can run the Steam client with Proton on the Switch via the box64 and box86 emulator (FEX-Emulator should also work but I am not sure).
The only issue is that Linux on the Switch only has 64 bit GPU drivers, so emulated x86 games won't be able to use GPU acceleration with box86, only x86_64 games can directly use the GPU with box64.
Have you tried this on the ps4 pro :o
I like how this is a middle finger to Sony if you use a banned PS4...
What about a launch ps3 that came with a Linux option?
that has a powerpc cpu and steam doesn't have a powerpc version.
That's crazy I wouldn't have expected the ps4 to perform worse then the sd. You should try this with Xbox x or ps5.
See I been wanting Linux but I can’t get the downloads to be GZ or XZ files. One is a CPIO file and the other is just a WinRAR archive. How are yall getting them to be these specific types of files? Can anyone explain? That’s the only reason why I haven’t been able to eve install Linux to my PS4
Where did you find instructions for installation of this if i can know? Thankss
Here's a good starting point: czcams.com/video/WgukYE-2vx4/video.html
Running half life 2 and black mesa on ps4 is so good
Hey, What game is that at 9:35.? Looks like Smash Bros.. Is that it.?
That's Smash Bros Project M. It's a mod for Brawl
Is there system fsr like on steam deck?
"Hey bro what's your specs?"
"I don't know like a jaguar gpu or something"
"What the heck is that"
"It's in my PS4 man idk"
did you install gpu drivers
This reminds me, I used to have a destiny PS4 and I remember having a mod on it, not to sure what but it had one
I like that donkey Kong music! I miss that game
I'm so happy I subscribed to bingus studios
finally, I thought you wouldn't dare do it
I was wondering if you could play it on the PlayStation 4 controller instead of the mouse and keyboard
I didn't try but I imagine you could just pair it with Bluetooth and it would work
@Bringus Studios I was going to tell you if you have time you think you could play a game is on Steam it's called: O.V.N.I. Abduction what you have time thank you
6:11 I heard big smoke
3:46 I played this with my grandpa once.
the fact that his enter key's paint is fading away (that key is in a trouble)
Would it be possible to install steam deck os on a wii, wii u or new 3ds?
No unfortunately. The only reason it works on the PS4 is because it uses the same CPU architecture as PCs, unlike anything Nintendo has made
@@BringusStudios Ah interesting!