I think people are going extreme on the recency bias. Fact is Charles has been faster than Carlos the whole time he has been there. Charles one lap pace is incredible, probably the best on the grid imo. Anyway, Carlos has raced a total of TWO races this season. And people are ready to crown him. Let's pump the brakes. He has been incredible. But again it's been two races. No one was saying he was one of the greats on the grid a month ago. Let's see how this season plays out.
@@doubleboy2388 He has a big Ole hurkin' chip on His shoulder this year, as well as a lot to prove in order to showcase His worth to Other Teams. Literally what He accomplishes, and what choices He makes will determine His 2025 and beyond. Maybe in the past He has been content to be Ferrari's number 2, but this year, I would not want to be racing against Him.
Schumacher is a 7 years WC as well, put him in an F1, and we won't do too well. Obviously, this comparison is inappropriate, but Lewis nothing proves Lewis is at the same level right now as he used to be.
This...as a black man who has travelled all over Italy, as a teenage and now 25 years later. Italians don't have kind thoughts about black people. Great warm people; very stereotypical thoughts of black people. I think the chemistry, culturally, will be quite a shocker for Hamilton, but , if he over comes this...and wins (consistently with Ferrari ) it would be truly history in the making.
@@charleswilfred6463 hhh he had the second best car in most of the first half of the season yet didn't get a pole and missed on a win in monaco where ther had maybe better car
Yes not so rated titles bcz field was 2 sec back per lap... Anyone even in f2 can win with that car and looks like op... Lewis is nothing special just a car boy..
@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412 In 2017-18 the Merc was about level with the Ferrari, maybe a bit better in 17 and a bit worse in 18. They weren't 2 seconds faster and Hamilton in the 2018 Ferrari probably beats Vettel in the 2018 Merc.
Top 10 dumbest things ever said. For one look at Checo in dominant car and he barely got wins you're saying f2 drivers are gonna win in those cars be real. The man is a Legend and you saying he is nothing special is a personal feeling towards him@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412
Hamilton signing is beyond sport. Lewis Hamilton is now a brand. Him driving in Ferrari is a golden marketing opportunity. One of the greatest in the greatest team in motorsport history. Him being a dominant successor to Schumacher and being another great like Vettel, Prost Schumacher Alonso who is going to drive for Scuderia. I still believe that Lewis, with right motivation and making that dream of winning a title in Red. Winning in Ferrari is different, because you have all nation behind you. Ferrari is like a Big Family.
If everyone says youre underrated, you're not underrated anymore. That being said, lewis was the best of the rest and almost got checo last year in that unstable car. Ferrari just happened to grab a golden opportunity
I respect Carlos, but people very quickly forget how many times his team mate was faster (and probably kinder to the tires) with a broken front wing. Silverstone 2022 is the first one that comes to mind, a race that Carlos won purely due to Ferrari's incompetence. In reality, it was Leclerc's race to win, but not double stacking during the SC is what cost him in the end.
People forget how Leclerc had 2 DNFS that weren’t his fault, a DSQ and DNS, and still ended up ahead of sainz in terms of points (who also won a race btw)
i nutshell carlos is horrible second driver i think audi will be better choice for him because he will be main driver on that team cuz he is not really team player i think he hate being second driver
I think he's called underrated because multiple times in his career he has lost his seat to a more famous driver despite him not doing anything wrong performance wise (Renault, now Ferrari). Plus, he had been historically overshadowed by more famous teammates despite comparing very well to all of them. He should be as hyped as Norris and Leclerc in my view - he may be a touch slower but he has the highest race IQ on the grid alongside his fellow spaniard, and to be fair, it seems like he finally is now. Ferrari will not regret their decision financially. And maybe Lewis will get as good pace as Sainz has in Ferrari relative to Leclerc or slightly better. but i dont see him beating Leclerc or leading the team. Lewis is not a technical driver, he cannot spearhead strategy, and he hasnt changed team in 10 years (Sainz is the antithesis to these things) and id argue doesnt demonstrate the Rosberg-level commitment Sainz has, who changes home to be closer to his teams, among other things. Thats what makes Sainz great. He isnt a natural elite but he works that much more diligently than his peers. Plus, Hamilton is past his prime. He won't be a pushover, but if Ferrari wanted a new team leader Hamilton will not give them that. more significantly, I think Hamilton and Leclerc wont have the on track chemistry Sainz has. Lewis already got feisty with George, i dont see it being better with Leclerc. Sainz works well with everyone. this could cost Ferrari valuable points. I also think its interesting to imagine Sainz vs Russell at Merc. If he can match Leclerc he can surely match Russell. and how would the team respond to that if Antonelli is lined up in the future? could get spicy if that happens
lewis is "not a technical driver" is an extremely uninformed take i'm sorry everyone who worked with him at mclaren and mercedes will tell you the exact opposite
I think Lewis's performance last year in the W14 disagrees with everything you are trying to say regarding his performance, so there's that. And I most definitely think that Lewis could be equal or better than Leclerc, I'd struggle to see him really be behind him consistently. As for the team leadership thing, I really think Ferrari is pushing Leclerc in the long term, but for now, they want to benchmark a known top driver who has broken all kinds of records to see how Leclerc stacks up against him. That being said, I can see where you are coming from in terms of him not being a technical driver, but clearly he has some know how on how to best optimize the cars due to his experience. Everyone treats him like a rookie and not like the veteran he is for some reason I can't quite understand.
@@royshavrickI don’t think anything this fella has said is treating him like a rookie. Lewis is an incredible driver, but he isn’t great at race strategy on the fly, nor is he that great at helping to develop a race team. He gets credit as such often times bc of moving to Mercedes at the right time, but that success is largely based on the huge amount of money they spent on engine development and getting the most out of it in a period of time where the motor was far and away the most important part of the car. He’s not bad at any of these skills, he’s just not elite at them in the way Sainz is bc he’s never had to be, Sainz does have to be to close a skill gap that doesn’t exist for Lewis or Charles, but in doing so has rounded himself as one of the best talents on the grid at always capitalizing, and he’s getting better at qualifying all the time, if he continues to do so there is a great chance he could be a WC.
Maybe, maybe not. Let's not forget Hamilton got P3 and did challenge for P2 last year in a car that wasn't consistently fast. Sainz is currently on this amazing form because he is literally fighting for his future. He has to be 110% every week until he gets a contract.
Did people already forget that Sainz beat Leclerc during his first year at Ferrari? He is the only driver able to beat Verstappen right now. The guy is not at 110%, he has driven very well during the last 3 years.
@@Drakewyrmsainz only driver that can beat max rn?💀. Where was he in 2022 when Ferrari had a title challenging car? This win has blown things out of proportion man.
@@Drakewyrm Did people already forget that Leclerc was at the front fighting REd Bull or leading the field while Sainz was either 10+ seconds behind(Bahrain, Jeddah, Miami, Spain, Singapore) or crashing like an idiot(Australia and Japan)? Also, Leclerc is a more consistent driver. He has scored more points, has gotten more poles, more podiums and has equal number of wins even though it should be a lot more(2019 Austria and Singapore, 2022 Monaco, Spain, Hungary comes to mind). He has been beating Sainz H2H in races and quali since their start as teammates.
@@nicholaspitter4694 I swear people underrate Sainz until he wins, then they act like he is Alonso reborn. Chill down with the hype. Where were these people when Sainz couldn't beat Leclerc on merit from Japan 2023 to this race?
No, because Sainz is a Gerhard Berger type of driver and Hamilton is a Senna type of driver. Berger was as good as anyone on a good day and yes he outqualified Senna at McLaren every 5th race on average and ran him close in the others. The 1987 Australian GP was a Gerhard Berger grand slam, pole, win, fastest lap and every single lap led. His last win was the 1997 German GP at Hockenheim where he was on pole, won and had the fastest lap. Aged 38 too. He had several spirited drives in his career - even those times he didn't win. Berger is also one of an elite group of only 10 drivers in F1 history to have a winning span of 10 years and more between their first and last wins in F1. He is also part of the elite group of only 35 drivers who have 10 or more wins in F1. A d*mn good driver by any measure. He also remained in top teams throughout his final 12 years in F1. But he was no Senna and neither was he a Prost. And thus far I'd say it's fair to put Sainz in this bracket.
yeah thats the thing about berger, i say he was a good driver who might even deserving of wdc, the problem he got was that he was competing in the era of giants(prost,senna,mansell,schumacher and even piquet), mind you as good as mansell was, he only won 1 wdc.
my biggest gripe is the decision to put two "first drivers" in one team. Why spend all that time and money developing Leclerc to make him their champion only to bring in Lewis?
Mentorship and ambassadorship after Lewis has hopefully won his 8th (9th tbh) for Maranello, setting himself as a Ferrari legend. So Charles and someone else will be in that second seat, will use the lessons from Hamilton to help Charles achieve his own world championship.
@@dianamaioru497 I doubt after all this time that Charles has been in f1 that he will need any form of mentorship. 2022 was a competition between him and Max, not Lewis. Placing Lewis in the team will just throw off what the team has been positioning him for all this time.
Ferrari needs the money. Lewis will be 40 and unavoidably past his best, although his mediocre is level with just about anyone else's best. Ferrari isn't interested in winning races anymore. Podiums are more than good enough.
I think Carlos is driving much better this season cause he’s got nothing to lose and is driving just to prove his worth Lewis however has realised how bad merc are so he’s probably isn’t asked about this season and is just waiting to jump in Ferrari so it’s a little unfair to compare them rn
@supertouring22 I mean its always some combination of both right? Rossberg proved that it was a super dominant car and that Lewis was not the only one capable of winning. But checo and bottas also proved its not just anyone who can win despite how dominant the car is. Realistically, you probably need to be a top 5 driver in a top 2/3 car to have any shot. The better your car, the worse a driver you can be and the better the driver, the worse the car. But regardless of how good a car you have, you still probably have to be a top 5 driver to be consistent enough to win WDC
Carlos could win the rest of the races this year and he still wouldn’t be there next year cuz Ferrari aren’t signing Hamilton for just on track performances, it’s about off track value, excellent driver feedback, experience, and for the story. There are so many reasons why Ferrari want Hamilton over Sainz
Lewis is currently being overshadowed by George, his best years are over and we've seen that he hasn't made any progress technically since 2022. Let's see if he actually delivers.
@@walterhofer937 Do muppets like you conveniently forget last year or something. The merc car is a pos this year and has inherent driving issues . Just Because Russell is on 18 points and Hamilton is on 8 doesn't mean its out right domination and once again Russell crashed on his own.
@@Savant_Ananya It is delusional to write of LH when he has three bad races in a car that is obviously sub par. Look at Alonso and his time in the McLaren or Alpine shitboxes and the moment he got a decent car, he puts it on the podium. Cars matter equally as Drivers and conclusions after one year are childish.
I think people are going extreme on the recency bias. Fact is Charles has been faster than Carlos the whole time he has been there. Charles one lap pace is incredible, probably the best on the grid imo. Anyway, Carlos has raced a total of TWO races this season. And people are ready to crown him. Let's pump the brakes. He has been incredible. But again it's been two races. Let's see how this season plays out
In 2021 Carlos beats Charles, in 2023 Charles only overtook Carlos at the end. And Carlos impressively won a race last year. Carlos makes fewer mistakes and has a better overview of the race. And he is mentally stronger.
@@walterhofer937 if last year "Charles only overtook Carlos at the end" the same thing can be said about 2021, because if you look at the whole of the season, Charles easily outperformed Carlos that year. Also, last year, while the first half of the season Carlos was better, from Belgium onwards, Leclerc had an amazing end of the season. Leclerc's just that bit better whether you like to admit it or not. Doesn't mean Sainz isn't great
i think a key thing to consider is that while it is true that Charles is faster on average than Carlos, its never by much on average. theyve consistently been one of the closest pairings on the grid in quali pace, with the average being under 2 tenths per season. and Carlos can outqualify and be quicker on merit than Charles in certain conditions. Charles is, in my view, the quickest driver on the grid. Sainz is the most strategic driver on the grid alongside Alonso. but the fact that Sainz is also only fractionally behind Charles on pace is both impressive and important.
People keep saying that Hamilton is a pr move. Even if he doesnt perform(which I think at worst he will do what Sainz does) he will give Ferrari the perspective of a 7 time world champion. We saw how important Schumacher was to build the foundations for the Mercedes domination. And since Lewis joined Ferrari, they have been linked with Newey and Wache plus already signed multiple engineers from Red Bull and Mercedes. Lewis’ influence stretches far beyond the race track.
@@furkanalbayrak5129 It LITERALLY is his fault they lost their engineers. Merc chose to pay Lewis instead of the geniuses who built the W11. If Merc had fired Lewis, they'd still be winning.
It depends. On short terms - no. He is definitely a driver who can deliver under pressure and will bring a lot of experience to the team. On longer terms, however - it's difficult to say. He's getting older and he will be driving for a team that is expected to win races and contend for titles (so it can't be compared to Alonso), so he may not stay around for long if either he or Ferrari underdeliver. And if that does happen, Ferrari will be right back where they started.
Everyone has been hit hard by recency bias! People seem to forget Sainz is driving for his life this season because he doesn’t have a seat secured for next season and beyond, yet. He needs to prove he is a capable driver and deserving of a top seat.
You think we're basing this off Australia? Are you blind?? How often does Carlos need to outperform his teammate AND his team before you'll embrace reality?
It's not that he has to prove himself. He is the only GP Winner in the last 2 years that isn't driving a RedBull. Sainz ignore Team Orders and doesn't give a fuck anymore, for sure though. This is Sainz without anyone holding him back.
@@quigglyz Sainz didn't outperform Leclerc last year since Suzuka, that's 7 races in a row. Now he outperforms him in 2 races and all of a sudden you come up with "HOW MANY TIMES he needs to outperform Leclerc"? Wow. That's what recency bias is!
I'm tired of this conversation. Can't we talk about the good progress Ferrari has made to close the gap. I mean Carlos looked genuinely capable of staying close to verstappen before then brake failure.
They won't regret it. They're getting a 7-time world champion as well as a legacy. Also, I would say he was underrated up until his first win. THEN he graduated from underrated to rated.
I can assure you that 80% of the tifosi are already hating it. Lewis can't even beat average Russel. After the initial hype around the Hamilton brand, everything is going downhill as his performance on track is mediocre at best.
I’m glad someone with some voice has finally mentioned it. All season long I’ve heard “Carlos Sainz revenge train” and people supporting him to show Ferrari how much of a clown they are drop him and mainstream media like “The Race” using words like “dumped” is really fueling the fire. F1 fans on social media are the most fickle and dramatic people ever, Lewis is not washed and it’s his car that’s holding him back for the majority right now because his performances last year showed he still has it. You also have to consider that the strong links to Audi means that in 2 years, Carlos might be gone anyway and he was never a super long-term prospect for Ferrari. Hence the stars allligned for Carlos to unfortunately not get his contract renew, but it doesn’t mean Ferrari hate him or don’t believe in him. Sainz having the season he his having, i want nothing less than a number 1 driver role for him.
Honestly I think this is good for Carlos, this just proves his worth and other teams will come for him. Charles is a great driver and people forget how he was able to fight 2022. Lewis is a 7 time world champion I think he will be just fine. So many people just hating, this sport is like this people forget how political it all is. It’s not about emotions it’s about money and marketing as well.
In my opinion, you to wonder for Ferrari is changing the driver lineup is the best move. I know it’s Lewis, but they have a more than competent driver lineup right now. And now that their main issues seem to be resolved (internally the team and car development), you have to wonder if they’ve made the right decision
Hamilton's role is possibly more for marketing and attracting new personnel, especially Adrian Newey. Also, his experience and feedback from his time at Mercedes should be useful as well.
I really don't think Newey is too bothered about working at Ferrari, even with Lewis there. If Lewis had such a attractive pull then why hasn't Newey ever joined Merc?
@@empress_alex Rumors have it thta Elkann is talking to Newey, might come to nothing but Newey did say in multiple interviews that working for Ferrari and with Lewis are on his bucket list, now he has the only chance he'll ever get to do both in one shot, plus internal turmoil over at RB might push him to leave
Lewis has won about a hundred races more than Carlos. He hasn't forgotten how to win, but even he can't do anything with a car that dies on him! Don't get me wrong, Carlos is a great driver, underrated by some - not all, and definitely not by me. He's not compared that favourably to Charles (mostly by the press). He's going to be a cracking addition to any team. He's not a flamboyant racer but he's a very intelligent one. Reminds me of Prost, "The Professor" on track. I'm sure he'll get a decent drive next year. It would be a crime if not.
He reminds me of Prost, as well. I was wondering if I was out of my mind for that comparison; it's nice to know that someone else sees it, too. I see Prost in Carlos' potential. Right now, he's reminiscent of The Professor; my hope for him is that he continues to hone his racecraft and strategy to the point that the comparison is widely made and acknowledged.
I think I would rather be in Carlos shoes than Charles, Lewis is going to expect special attention. Carlos will likely move on to a strong team and have success., Go Carlos, you gained at least one fan
Sainz is criminally underrated TEAM driver, the amount of defensive and self-sabotage driving he does for his teammates rarely gets praise, or even noticed at all. It's not glamorous and it doesn't win driver championships but it makes him likeable to the fans. However, ultimately, it's his decision to race this way. The F1 greats are only great because they focus on being the fastest driver on track, every single time they compete. It may come across as selfish at times but they don't need to care about being liked or not, they know deep down individual results are what determine greatness in the long run. It's a similar story with Checo, they have both made the conscious decision to be less competitive and accept their role as second best because they have allowed their constructors to delude them (and us fans) into thinking that the constructors championship is more important than the drivers championship.
I mean when he does happen to be selfish on track his teammate’s fans then slander and say he’s not a team player I think that part is very underrated you’re right
This was a banging video. It still kind of strange that Carlos doesn’t have a seat for 2025 but hopefully he gets one. He definitely strikes me as one of those drivers that deserves to be in a team where he has seen as the main driver. when he was at McLaren leading that team. I think he really pushed the environment and the performance. Maybe if he goes to Audi, he can get a fresh start and have a team he can build around himself
Hopeless for him to go for Audi sauber in the hope that they become a big team. We all thought Aston could be number 2 after a great start last year. They are 4th now. He has to go for the top seats at Mercedes and RB, thirdly Aston, should Alonso retire / go to Mercedes.
I don't think it's really the people who work within F1 or the media who're labelling him "underrated", it's more the fans who unfortunately don't know a great driver when they see one, and there are a lot of them!
No they wont, they have already profited from signing Hamilton before he even drives for them...Ferrari are banging on having a championship winning car in 2026, this year and the next almost certainly belong to Red Bull..Carlos will probably try and get that 2nd RB seat, yes he probably cant beat Max in his own team but its his only chance to continue to fight for podiums and race wins..
Wdym profited? pls do not tell me u thought the announcement raised ferrari's stocks 😭, the annual earnings report also released which help raised the prices. The investment banker in me is screaming when i hear "oh lewis made ferrari rich js frm the announcement"
@afallenworld1581 maybe a little, but the effect is not as amazing as ppl make it out to be. Its 2023 Q4 earnings were supreb which was why the stock price went up, simple research articles will debunk the hamilton claim, if you already learnt investing, even bttr u wld know its nt true.
@@javierplays9516 Cry all you want dude whether he made a little more, he still made the richer. The biggest driver brand meets the biggest constructor brand, Ferrari hasn't complained or said no he didn't affect it.
It's a big mistake, but Ferrari should be used to mistakes by now. Edit: Also, I wouldn't put Sainz on the same tier as Norris, Russell and Leclerc, he is one small step above that, since he consistently delivers. He is better than Leclerc for sure.
@@zackaquetteh2901If Leclerc is better, why is it remotely close to begin with? If he really has the kind of speed people say, why did Carlos win in Australia and not him? There are countless "fast" drivers that never became anything for one reason or another (Alesi comes to mind), and if Leclerc doesn't iron out his inconsistencies that's gonna happen to him.
I don't understand the problem here. Ferrari made the biggest move in years. Leclerc will challenge the championship and Hamilton will bring his marketing value as 7times world champion. Win-win situation. Let the rest of the world have their opinion, who cares
The problem for Ferrari is that they are gonna have to rebuild the dinamic of the team with 7 times world champion in the mix, when they already have a great lineup that knows how to work together and have overcome so many lows of the team, it was time for Leclerc/Sainz started to enjoy the stability and improvements the team has done in this 3/4 years, but elkann wanted otherwise. Hoping for Carlos finds a good team and Charles more patience
Having had a somewhat similar surgery to Carlos with my gallbladder taken out, it is amazing the performance he did! I was still cautious to do anything strenuous let alone do it for hours on end even after 2 weeks!
The MSM make it sound like he was dropped for Ocon. Anyway, CS is great. There’s only one driver on the grid w/more capacity + race craft who, ironically, is his childhood hero Fernando.
I am a Ferrari fan and also an avid Mercedes hater, I have been hating on them for a while but I am not a prisoner of the moment. Carlos is fantastic but saying Hamilton cannot drive at or above that level is ludicrous. I need to see it to believe it. Then again people thought Alonso was over the hill when he came back and look at him perform.. I believe that if you give Lewis the car he will produce above or at the same level as Carlos easily.
@Aurantius_ Ricciardo had a good car with a bad teammate in 2020, to a great car with a great teammate in 2021. Ricciardo never changed, his teammates just got better
Being 3rd in the championship isn't really anything special when you're still 341 points behind 1st place and only 30 odd points ahead of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. He could literally have been overtaken in the points by any of those in just 2 races.
@@Fireglo no one was catching the rb19 in nearly won every race, also Lewis was in a car that was 3rd/4th quickest on average and he finished 3rd in the championship and his teammate finished 8th, so yeah finishing 3rd last year was something special.
@@kzv44Mercedes was not 3rd/4th fastest, it was 2nd fastest with Ferrari being roughly equal in pace. However, Ferrari was more unreliable, and Lewis didn't have a single reliability issue last year.
I had same surgery when I was 12 yo. The pain before surgery can be pretty big, but the opeation and recovery are pretty good and fast. If it was a sport with more body mobility he probably would ve lost a month or so, but since its F1 as long as he is careful with the stitches, he should be fine.
@@dianamaioru497 Finished Idk P7 in bahrain with the 3rd fastest car,Finished 9th In jeddah with the 4th fastest car,This is called barely finishing in points and if he had a full race in Australia he would probably be p9 or p8 lol so clearly He barely finishes in the points
I have never seen a team shoot themselves in the foot as much as Ferrari does. I am waiting for them to treat Sainz as they did with Vettel a few years back.
If you think that Hamilton is "pressured" by whether Ferrari regret choosing him or not then you are nothing short of a fool. Hamilton has had much more pressure than that in his carrier, all the way back from 2007 of proving himself to 2021 where he had to fight for an 8th world championship, and he didn't fumble one bit (maybe Baku but that's a unicorn of a mistake). Wanna see Hamilton under real pressure? Check his 07 and 08 seasons, check his 2014 and 2015 seasons, check his 2018 season, check his 2020 season, were sure it was "gifted" but he was chasing a record equaling 7 championships, the best where he showed his coolness under pressure is the last 4 races in 2021. He is not in any way shape or form pressured by this.
It feels like mercedes really is suffering from the mass departure of their lead engineers. It's just a guess but I think that their struggles are mostly down to that more than anything since even when they started seasons really badly they still managed to get all their problems sorted in a few weekends
They’ve already gained a couple billion in company value since signing Lewis. He hasn’t driven a race for them and they’ve already recouped his contract 10 times over. They won’t regret signing Lewis at all.
@@pdxholmes ferrari don't need money, they have plenty of that. I'm judging purely on the chaos that will most likely happen when the buddy-buddy period at the start dies down.
No lol. Carlos getting alot of love rn and fair enough but lets be objective, he's not touching Charles or Lewis or even Max. He's done well to capitalize but ultimately leclerc & Hamilton got their race wins against Max whereas Sainz wins when the red bull is out. Ferrari are definitely not regretting signing a 7x world champion to replace a 3 time race winner. Let’s not forget Lewis was fighting for P2 with the RB19 last year
@@supertouring22 Carlos had arguably his best race for Ferrari and equally Charles literally had one of his worst weekends ever and he finished 2.3 seconds behind. That tells you all u need to know
@@isakibrahim8316why did Charles not perform in Singapore or whenever max is not able to perform why does Sainz only manages to pull out the win while not lec and in 2022 there were many instances where Sainz was asked to let lec by when Sainz could have fought for the win it melts down to the team game sometimes dude just watch more races u will get the perspective.
Yes they will Hamilton has shown he needs a very specific ride! Also to be fair to leclerc Carlos did this last year Charles will do better the majority of the races
Couldn’t be more wrong but to be expected in a formula 1 vid comment section where everyone has lower iq than sainz has wins and still hate Lewis for being too good for his whole career
Lewis will do well with Ferrari but as well as Carlos has done is my concern. In my opinion Carlos is just beginning to show his true potential and this very well may eventually be a decision that Ferrari regrets.
I never thought much of Sainz until now. He’s been on 🔥 since Singapore last year performance wise, but even more than that, he’s handling all the off track problems he’s had this year with relative ease and he just keeps getting better and better. Gotta applaud the guy for everything he’s been through, as a lesser driver would of fallen off so quickly but the guy is mentally tough. Ferrari dug their own grave yet again as just when things were starting to look up, they just had to rock the boat. Nevermind it’s their loss. At this point there’s no doubt in my mind RedBull will pick him up.
The 2024 season for Carlos has been really good so far, i feel like Carlos has a lot to show in F1 and i hope Carlos gets a top team next year. With that being said i feel this may bring ferrari a bit of a different point of view and experience as well
I love your videos. As a Ferrari fan i agree with you completely that leclerc is a slightly better driver than sainz and i would add that Leclerc has been riddled with bad luck especially at the start of last season and has started to improve on the mistakes he was making 2 and 3 years ago. I would agree with you that leclerc is just better at putting a whole season together and i would add that i think he still has a big potential for a higher ceiling and with the right car is definitely able to win a driver's championship. Sainz is an amazing driver but i don't see him beating leclerc for a driver's championship in the same car and Lewis is one of the few that you can say with confidence is an upgrade on sainz.
yes they will, sainz is on the way up and ham on the way out maybe at least mentally since the last 3 years but will be interesting to see what happens this and next season.
Short answer: absolutely not. Ferrari had to make a choice between Leclerc and Sainz for their future, they couldn't keep them both in one team and keep the garage harmonious. They chose Leclerc which makes sense: not only is he the more consistent driver but he is the literal messiah in the eyes of some tifosi. Then, Ferrari had a real problem from mismanagement under Binotto, and while Fred Vasseur has cleaned out some of that rot, he needs good talent to replace it. Enter Hamilton. This signing isn't about Lewis being a top driver, that will frankly likely be Leclerc's job, rather Ferrari signed Lewis Hamilton in order to poach top tier talent from every other team they can, using Lewis as a lure. Lewis will likely retire after three years, and in the long term, Ferrari have Ollie Bearman, who has already proved himself in a Ferrari. Hamilton is a vital piece in Fred Vasseur's plan to rebuild the team to get them up to a technical standard to win world championships. Sainz will likely go to Audi in 2026 anyway. I think what could be possible is Sainz to Merc for a year, while Merc scramble to train up Kimi Antonelli, then Sainz to Audi. I don't believe in Sainz to Red Bull-I remember the rumoured infighting at Toro Rosso in 2015-16 between the Sainz and Verstappen camps, and besides, Sainz will clearly always be n2 at Red Bull as long as Max Verstappen is there.
You’re usually very concise with what you say but saying he’s not underrated then saying he’s under appreciated is basically contradicting yourself. Most people do underrate him. Mainstream media always says Charles is a much better driver
@@georgiosioannispappas6311 although it's important to be noted that Alonso and Vettel came to Ferrari exactly because of that reason too. And neither able to win titles with Ferrari
Even if Ferrari had a championship winning car, they would find a way to f**k it up. The worst managed team with the biggest budget in F1. And I believe getting rid of Carlos and replacing him with Hamilton is proof of that.
I think it’s too early to say. Lewis is not performing great compared to Sainz, but the Merc is just less competitive than the Ferrari at this stage. We have to wait until we can compare apples with apples ie Charles vs Lewis in the same car next year.
@@empress_alex Well if you lived in my country you'd know its not because he's black and I don't hate him I think he is one of the best ever but I also know he is not on leclercs level as he is now,He is washed
Sainz fan here but definitely ferrari did not make a mistake. short term, hamilton is overall worth the swap, long term bearman should be good to fill the spot that hamilton will leave so they seems to be covered, probably bearman won't be as competitive as sainz but time will speak.
About him being underrated, when there’s talks of a Ferrari Title Challenge is coming up it’s always only Leclerc people talk about. So with all fairness, him being underrated in comparison holds true. Also I think Ferrari made a Mistake given chemistry and age and mindset, but we will see
Lewis is 40 next year and he's up against the best qualifier on the grid. Yes he's a 7X champ and the greatest of all time but this is the Hamilton from 2024, not the one from 2018-21, its a repeat of Rosberg and Schumacher at Mercedes from 2010-12
I hope carlos gets signed by rb. That way we'll somehow be able to compare the drivers and not the cars of the 3 teams. I'm expecting max to prove he's the best and to find out hamilton is not much more of an average driver, but time will tell.
I’d love to see Carlos at Red Bull. He’d certainly be more consistent than Checo, and has already been teammates with Max in the past. They seem to get along quite well. If Carlos is anywhere close to Checo’s points at the summer break, I’m sure Red Bull will be strongly considering getting him in that second seat. I’m sure they’re having talks about it already. They should be if they aren’t.
Ferrari and Mercedes had fairly equal cars? Are kidding me mate? Ferrari was 2nd fastest team on the grid, the only why they finished behind Mercedes is because of that ridiculous penalty in Las Vegas
To be fair, I feel like most people are not worried because they think Hamilton wasn't good, but rather cause he is pretty old by F1 standards and everytime he doesn't perform some will think it's age catching up ( after all Alonso proved you can perform when over 40, but other drivers struggled a lot )
Ferrari don't need to be a fast/reliable driver but a face that mounts pressure over the team. Alonso did that, same for Seb during 2017-2018 and now Lewis fits the bill as well. Tifosi works well when the driver market value puts them in a tight spot.
To be honest I haven’t even payed attention to what’s going on to Hamilton. I’m just writing off this entire season for him, and this is barely the fourth race.
One thing is for certain about this driver change for 2025: Leclerc *_needs_* to stamp his authority in the team because even though Leclerc has arguably the best one-lap pace of the entire field, that pace means nothing if you can't string the whole weekend together. Ferrari Corporate's move to sign Hamilton under Vasseur's nose is already a damning vote of no confidence to the Scuderia from Corporate, and I suspect if Leclerc can't beat Sainz this year Hamilton will be getting preferential treatment from 2025 and beyond.
Saying Carlos is not as good as Leclerc over a full season is just not true. He BEAT him in the 2021 championship, and came within SIX points in 2023. He and Leclerc have been neck and neck throughout their time at Ferrari (besides the first half of 2022). Leclerc gets the edge over him in pure performance, but Mr. Consistent Carlos is the real deal, and deserves all the praise he is getting.
No. If they’re not going to get Sainz to do the number 2 driver role he was hired for (Leclerc could be leading the title right now) then they might as well just have two actual number ones. And the marketing speaks for itself
Yes. Toto seen the collapse of Lewis, he knows signing Bottas gifted Lewis the bulk of his championships. And Toto didn’t want Lewis anymore, didn’t want to offer more then two years. Lewis lost to Russell in 2022 and is behind Russell again. Against Leclerc in a new team with a different language, logic says it is simple never going to happen. Abu Dhabi 2021 is the moment where Lewis should have retired. If he would have stated that “he didn’t want to be involved in an unfair sport” he would have been an eternal legend. Every time unfair rulings would have been given he would have been referenced. Now he threw it all away within a couple of years. He got beaten to much by teammates to consider him a legend.
i think they rushed a lot, sure Hamilton is a big name and EVERY team would love to have him, but i honestly don't see Ham as a WAY better driver than Lec or Carlos. so yeah i do think Ferrari rushed.
I think this entire conversation boils down to people just not wanting to see Carlos without a drive next year, and the win in Australia just put more fuel in the fire Will Ferrari regret? Is it the right decision? Too early to call, we're only 3 rounds in I'll only say this, Carlos is a good driver and should be on the grid next year
I sure hope Carlos gets on a top team next year. He’s proven he’s one of the greats on the grid
I think people are going extreme on the recency bias. Fact is Charles has been faster than Carlos the whole time he has been there. Charles one lap pace is incredible, probably the best on the grid imo. Anyway, Carlos has raced a total of TWO races this season. And people are ready to crown him. Let's pump the brakes. He has been incredible. But again it's been two races. No one was saying he was one of the greats on the grid a month ago. Let's see how this season plays out.
Not one of the greats, but very solid
@@doubleboy2388 sainz is better then leclerc as far as all around racer and beat leclerc in 2021
@@doubleboy2388 He has a big Ole hurkin' chip on His shoulder this year, as well as a lot to prove in order to showcase His worth to Other Teams. Literally what He accomplishes, and what choices He makes will determine His 2025 and beyond. Maybe in the past He has been content to be Ferrari's number 2, but this year, I would not want to be racing against Him.
@@ryancuda45 I'm not even going to reply to that because I'd probably get incredibly angry
Saying he missed a third of the races is crazy framing when there’s only been 3 races lol
And the race he DNFd he was losing to lance stroll
I think he phrased it as the start of the season
@@trillabite5673 He's driving a tractor which has been sabotaged by his own team
How dare he needed surgery. He should've raced through that
@@ThereMayBeLions how do you miss the point of the comment by so much? that's impressive
Lewis is a 7 time world champ, what I'm worried about is chemistry. Carlos and Charles work well together.
Schumacher is a 7 years WC as well, put him in an F1, and we won't do too well. Obviously, this comparison is inappropriate, but Lewis nothing proves Lewis is at the same level right now as he used to be.
@@Drakewyrm last season? Oh does third place in the third best car most season not count?
@@Wonderkid44no, because he's black. That's the only reason.
This...as a black man who has travelled all over Italy, as a teenage and now 25 years later. Italians don't have kind thoughts about black people. Great warm people; very stereotypical thoughts of black people. I think the chemistry, culturally, will be quite a shocker for Hamilton, but , if he over comes this...and wins (consistently with Ferrari ) it would be truly history in the making.
Does Charles have the courage to fight back if he feels he’s being wronged? I feel like Charles will just roll over if Ferrari decide to favor Lewis
Tbf hats off to Alonso finishing 4th last year
Amazing driver for sure, wish we could see him in a red bull or ferrari
I'd argue that Alonso was better than Hamilton in a much slower car!!
Impressive for a rookie indeed
Brilliant time at Aston Martin
@@charleswilfred6463 hhh he had the second best car in most of the first half of the season yet didn't get a pole and missed on a win in monaco where ther had maybe better car
Imagine showing someone from 2016-2020 the title from this video
You can even add 2021 to that list since he and Mercedes were contenders, and of course Merc won the WCC that year.
Yes not so rated titles bcz field was 2 sec back per lap... Anyone even in f2 can win with that car and looks like op... Lewis is nothing special just a car boy..
@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412 In 2017-18 the Merc was about level with the Ferrari, maybe a bit better in 17 and a bit worse in 18. They weren't 2 seconds faster and Hamilton in the 2018 Ferrari probably beats Vettel in the 2018 Merc.
Top 10 dumbest things ever said. For one look at Checo in dominant car and he barely got wins you're saying f2 drivers are gonna win in those cars be real. The man is a Legend and you saying he is nothing special is a personal feeling towards him@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412
Sorry imagination lost
Hamilton signing is beyond sport. Lewis Hamilton is now a brand. Him driving in Ferrari is a golden marketing opportunity. One of the greatest in the greatest team in motorsport history. Him being a dominant successor to Schumacher and being another great like Vettel, Prost Schumacher Alonso who is going to drive for Scuderia. I still believe that Lewis, with right motivation and making that dream of winning a title in Red. Winning in Ferrari is different, because you have all nation behind you. Ferrari is like a Big Family.
It will also be the death of Hamiltons career.
@@user-og6rw8ek2c not the death, but the end, he will retire there, which is the best farewell a driver (let alone a 7 time world champion) can have
If everyone says youre underrated, you're not underrated anymore. That being said, lewis was the best of the rest and almost got checo last year in that unstable car. Ferrari just happened to grab a golden opportunity
😂🤡🤡
It defends the driver though
Ferrari's car was worse for majority of the season.
If Hamilton didn't go ferrari he will go redbull
@@rishinarang9966nope, Ferrari was averagely the second best car. More pole, more high peak, more wins.
I respect Carlos, but people very quickly forget how many times his team mate was faster (and probably kinder to the tires) with a broken front wing. Silverstone 2022 is the first one that comes to mind, a race that Carlos won purely due to Ferrari's incompetence. In reality, it was Leclerc's race to win, but not double stacking during the SC is what cost him in the end.
People forget how Leclerc had 2 DNFS that weren’t his fault, a DSQ and DNS, and still ended up ahead of sainz in terms of points (who also won a race btw)
i nutshell carlos is horrible second driver i think audi will be better choice for him because he will be main driver on that team cuz he is not really team player i think he hate being second driver
I think he's called underrated because multiple times in his career he has lost his seat to a more famous driver despite him not doing anything wrong performance wise (Renault, now Ferrari). Plus, he had been historically overshadowed by more famous teammates despite comparing very well to all of them. He should be as hyped as Norris and Leclerc in my view - he may be a touch slower but he has the highest race IQ on the grid alongside his fellow spaniard, and to be fair, it seems like he finally is now.
Ferrari will not regret their decision financially. And maybe Lewis will get as good pace as Sainz has in Ferrari relative to Leclerc or slightly better. but i dont see him beating Leclerc or leading the team. Lewis is not a technical driver, he cannot spearhead strategy, and he hasnt changed team in 10 years (Sainz is the antithesis to these things) and id argue doesnt demonstrate the Rosberg-level commitment Sainz has, who changes home to be closer to his teams, among other things. Thats what makes Sainz great. He isnt a natural elite but he works that much more diligently than his peers. Plus, Hamilton is past his prime. He won't be a pushover, but if Ferrari wanted a new team leader Hamilton will not give them that.
more significantly, I think Hamilton and Leclerc wont have the on track chemistry Sainz has. Lewis already got feisty with George, i dont see it being better with Leclerc. Sainz works well with everyone. this could cost Ferrari valuable points.
I also think its interesting to imagine Sainz vs Russell at Merc. If he can match Leclerc he can surely match Russell. and how would the team respond to that if Antonelli is lined up in the future? could get spicy if that happens
lewis is "not a technical driver" is an extremely uninformed take i'm sorry everyone who worked with him at mclaren and mercedes will tell you the exact opposite
I think Lewis's performance last year in the W14 disagrees with everything you are trying to say regarding his performance, so there's that. And I most definitely think that Lewis could be equal or better than Leclerc, I'd struggle to see him really be behind him consistently. As for the team leadership thing, I really think Ferrari is pushing Leclerc in the long term, but for now, they want to benchmark a known top driver who has broken all kinds of records to see how Leclerc stacks up against him.
That being said, I can see where you are coming from in terms of him not being a technical driver, but clearly he has some know how on how to best optimize the cars due to his experience. Everyone treats him like a rookie and not like the veteran he is for some reason I can't quite understand.
Love your take, best way of summarising Sainz I've seen so far!
@@royshavrickI don’t think anything this fella has said is treating him like a rookie. Lewis is an incredible driver, but he isn’t great at race strategy on the fly, nor is he that great at helping to develop a race team. He gets credit as such often times bc of moving to Mercedes at the right time, but that success is largely based on the huge amount of money they spent on engine development and getting the most out of it in a period of time where the motor was far and away the most important part of the car. He’s not bad at any of these skills, he’s just not elite at them in the way Sainz is bc he’s never had to be, Sainz does have to be to close a skill gap that doesn’t exist for Lewis or Charles, but in doing so has rounded himself as one of the best talents on the grid at always capitalizing, and he’s getting better at qualifying all the time, if he continues to do so there is a great chance he could be a WC.
Mostly on point 👍
Maybe, maybe not. Let's not forget Hamilton got P3 and did challenge for P2 last year in a car that wasn't consistently fast. Sainz is currently on this amazing form because he is literally fighting for his future. He has to be 110% every week until he gets a contract.
Did people already forget that Sainz beat Leclerc during his first year at Ferrari? He is the only driver able to beat Verstappen right now. The guy is not at 110%, he has driven very well during the last 3 years.
@@Drakewyrmsainz only driver that can beat max rn?💀. Where was he in 2022 when Ferrari had a title challenging car? This win has blown things out of proportion man.
@@Drakewyrm Did people already forget that Leclerc was at the front fighting REd Bull or leading the field while Sainz was either 10+ seconds behind(Bahrain, Jeddah, Miami, Spain, Singapore) or crashing like an idiot(Australia and Japan)?
Also, Leclerc is a more consistent driver. He has scored more points, has gotten more poles, more podiums and has equal number of wins even though it should be a lot more(2019 Austria and Singapore, 2022 Monaco, Spain, Hungary comes to mind). He has been beating Sainz H2H in races and quali since their start as teammates.
@@nicholaspitter4694 I swear people underrate Sainz until he wins, then they act like he is Alonso reborn. Chill down with the hype. Where were these people when Sainz couldn't beat Leclerc on merit from Japan 2023 to this race?
@@Drakewyrm LMAO Sainz only beat Verstappen because the RB20's rear brake got tired of winning.
No, because Sainz is a Gerhard Berger type of driver and Hamilton is a Senna type of driver.
Berger was as good as anyone on a good day and yes he outqualified Senna at McLaren every 5th race on average and ran him close in the others. The 1987 Australian GP was a Gerhard Berger grand slam, pole, win, fastest lap and every single lap led. His last win was the 1997 German GP at Hockenheim where he was on pole, won and had the fastest lap. Aged 38 too. He had several spirited drives in his career - even those times he didn't win.
Berger is also one of an elite group of only 10 drivers in F1 history to have a winning span of 10 years and more between their first and last wins in F1. He is also part of the elite group of only 35 drivers who have 10 or more wins in F1. A d*mn good driver by any measure. He also remained in top teams throughout his final 12 years in F1.
But he was no Senna and neither was he a Prost.
And thus far I'd say it's fair to put Sainz in this bracket.
yeah thats the thing about berger, i say he was a good driver who might even deserving of wdc, the problem he got was that he was competing in the era of giants(prost,senna,mansell,schumacher and even piquet), mind you as good as mansell was, he only won 1 wdc.
my biggest gripe is the decision to put two "first drivers" in one team. Why spend all that time and money developing Leclerc to make him their champion only to bring in Lewis?
Mentorship and ambassadorship after Lewis has hopefully won his 8th (9th tbh) for Maranello, setting himself as a Ferrari legend. So Charles and someone else will be in that second seat, will use the lessons from Hamilton to help Charles achieve his own world championship.
@@dianamaioru497 I doubt after all this time that Charles has been in f1 that he will need any form of mentorship. 2022 was a competition between him and Max, not Lewis. Placing Lewis in the team will just throw off what the team has been positioning him for all this time.
Ferrari needs the money. Lewis will be 40 and unavoidably past his best, although his mediocre is level with just about anyone else's best. Ferrari isn't interested in winning races anymore. Podiums are more than good enough.
I think Carlos is driving much better this season cause he’s got nothing to lose and is driving just to prove his worth
Lewis however has realised how bad merc are so he’s probably isn’t asked about this season and is just waiting to jump in Ferrari so it’s a little unfair to compare them rn
I thought Lewis won all those wdc and it was nothing to do with the car? So, now its the car?
So he's too much of a baby to do the job he's paid millions for?? Maybe a real driver should get in that Merc instead.
@supertouring22 I mean its always some combination of both right? Rossberg proved that it was a super dominant car and that Lewis was not the only one capable of winning. But checo and bottas also proved its not just anyone who can win despite how dominant the car is. Realistically, you probably need to be a top 5 driver in a top 2/3 car to have any shot. The better your car, the worse a driver you can be and the better the driver, the worse the car. But regardless of how good a car you have, you still probably have to be a top 5 driver to be consistent enough to win WDC
@jonathanhay3212 very true 👍🏽
@@supertouring22you actually think Max can be WC in a Haas? Simple answer, it’s a combination of both a good car and a good driver
Thank you for not hopping onto that recency bias train everyone's at right now. It was a logical decision
Carlos could win the rest of the races this year and he still wouldn’t be there next year cuz Ferrari aren’t signing Hamilton for just on track performances, it’s about off track value, excellent driver feedback, experience, and for the story. There are so many reasons why Ferrari want Hamilton over Sainz
Lewis is currently being overshadowed by George, his best years are over and we've seen that he hasn't made any progress technically since 2022.
Let's see if he actually delivers.
@@walterhofer937 Do muppets like you conveniently forget last year or something. The merc car is a pos this year and has inherent driving issues . Just Because Russell is on 18 points and Hamilton is on 8 doesn't mean its out right domination and once again Russell crashed on his own.
@@Crukren89crymilton fan spotted
@@Savant_Ananya It is delusional to write of LH when he has three bad races in a car that is obviously sub par. Look at Alonso and his time in the McLaren or Alpine shitboxes and the moment he got a decent car, he puts it on the podium. Cars matter equally as Drivers and conclusions after one year are childish.
@@Savant_Ananya 12 yr old braindead hater spotted
I think people are going extreme on the recency bias. Fact is Charles has been faster than Carlos the whole time he has been there. Charles one lap pace is incredible, probably the best on the grid imo. Anyway, Carlos has raced a total of TWO races this season. And people are ready to crown him. Let's pump the brakes. He has been incredible. But again it's been two races. Let's see how this season plays out
He's great I agree but a better qualifier than Max though?
@@aaranchauhan9997he is slightly, but Max is consistent.
In 2021 Carlos beats Charles, in 2023 Charles only overtook Carlos at the end. And Carlos impressively won a race last year.
Carlos makes fewer mistakes and has a better overview of the race. And he is mentally stronger.
@@walterhofer937 if last year "Charles only overtook Carlos at the end" the same thing can be said about 2021, because if you look at the whole of the season, Charles easily outperformed Carlos that year. Also, last year, while the first half of the season Carlos was better, from Belgium onwards, Leclerc had an amazing end of the season. Leclerc's just that bit better whether you like to admit it or not. Doesn't mean Sainz isn't great
i think a key thing to consider is that while it is true that Charles is faster on average than Carlos, its never by much on average. theyve consistently been one of the closest pairings on the grid in quali pace, with the average being under 2 tenths per season. and Carlos can outqualify and be quicker on merit than Charles in certain conditions. Charles is, in my view, the quickest driver on the grid. Sainz is the most strategic driver on the grid alongside Alonso. but the fact that Sainz is also only fractionally behind Charles on pace is both impressive and important.
People keep saying that Hamilton is a pr move. Even if he doesnt perform(which I think at worst he will do what Sainz does) he will give Ferrari the perspective of a 7 time world champion. We saw how important Schumacher was to build the foundations for the Mercedes domination. And since Lewis joined Ferrari, they have been linked with Newey and Wache plus already signed multiple engineers from Red Bull and Mercedes. Lewis’ influence stretches far beyond the race track.
Odd that he can't turn the merc into a race winner though 🤔
@@supertouring22 Not his fault that they lost most of their top engineers and the ones that remain dont know how to build a car.
@@furkanalbayrak5129 It LITERALLY is his fault they lost their engineers. Merc chose to pay Lewis instead of the geniuses who built the W11. If Merc had fired Lewis, they'd still be winning.
@@quigglyzJames's Alison built the W15 the same man who built the W11
@@quigglyz than how do Ferrari afford them when they are paying 100 mil for Lewis. Get your head out of your arse
I read this as "Will Ferrell regrets choosing Hamilton over Sainz."
I was like WTF does this mean!?!?
Shake n Bake
[Will Ferrell screaming meme]
"Its provocative; it gets the ppl going"
Will Ferrell is a funny man
It took me awhile but that made me laugh omg
It depends. On short terms - no. He is definitely a driver who can deliver under pressure and will bring a lot of experience to the team.
On longer terms, however - it's difficult to say. He's getting older and he will be driving for a team that is expected to win races and contend for titles (so it can't be compared to Alonso), so he may not stay around for long if either he or Ferrari underdeliver. And if that does happen, Ferrari will be right back where they started.
Short term, no
Long term, no.
A new young drivers will be better in long term
Sainz is better for short term.
Hamilton is aging aswell lol
Everyone has been hit hard by recency bias! People seem to forget Sainz is driving for his life this season because he doesn’t have a seat secured for next season and beyond, yet. He needs to prove he is a capable driver and deserving of a top seat.
You think we're basing this off Australia? Are you blind?? How often does Carlos need to outperform his teammate AND his team before you'll embrace reality?
It's not that he has to prove himself. He is the only GP Winner in the last 2 years that isn't driving a RedBull.
Sainz ignore Team Orders and doesn't give a fuck anymore, for sure though. This is Sainz without anyone holding him back.
@@kyaryi1 Only because Max Verstappen's car caught fire. Verstappen would have won the race easily had his car not let him down.
@@Fireglo 😂 so? There are other 19 drivers out there
@@quigglyz Sainz didn't outperform Leclerc last year since Suzuka, that's 7 races in a row. Now he outperforms him in 2 races and all of a sudden you come up with "HOW MANY TIMES he needs to outperform Leclerc"? Wow. That's what recency bias is!
I'm tired of this conversation. Can't we talk about the good progress Ferrari has made to close the gap. I mean Carlos looked genuinely capable of staying close to verstappen before then brake failure.
Why would they? Sainz has been in F1 for 9 years the same as Max, and is just finding his feet.
They won't regret it. They're getting a 7-time world champion as well as a legacy.
Also, I would say he was underrated up until his first win. THEN he graduated from underrated to rated.
I can assure you that 80% of the tifosi are already hating it. Lewis can't even beat average Russel. After the initial hype around the Hamilton brand, everything is going downhill as his performance on track is mediocre at best.
I’m glad someone with some voice has finally mentioned it. All season long I’ve heard “Carlos Sainz revenge train” and people supporting him to show Ferrari how much of a clown they are drop him and mainstream media like “The Race” using words like “dumped” is really fueling the fire. F1 fans on social media are the most fickle and dramatic people ever, Lewis is not washed and it’s his car that’s holding him back for the majority right now because his performances last year showed he still has it. You also have to consider that the strong links to Audi means that in 2 years, Carlos might be gone anyway and he was never a super long-term prospect for Ferrari. Hence the stars allligned for Carlos to unfortunately not get his contract renew, but it doesn’t mean Ferrari hate him or don’t believe in him. Sainz having the season he his having, i want nothing less than a number 1 driver role for him.
And Lewis is going to be a long time driver for them? You must be mad
@@wowareolyscrazy that he never said that
@@wowareolyshe definitely has more of chance to win a championship than Sainz does by far😂 even within 2-3 year contract
@@nateflores8160Must be nice living in the past 🤣.
@@darrenjohn8524 3rd in championship in 2023 is not far in past 🤡
Honestly I think this is good for Carlos, this just proves his worth and other teams will come for him. Charles is a great driver and people forget how he was able to fight 2022. Lewis is a 7 time world champion I think he will be just fine. So many people just hating, this sport is like this people forget how political it all is. It’s not about emotions it’s about money and marketing as well.
In my opinion, you to wonder for Ferrari is changing the driver lineup is the best move. I know it’s Lewis, but they have a more than competent driver lineup right now. And now that their main issues seem to be resolved (internally the team and car development), you have to wonder if they’ve made the right decision
Hamilton's role is possibly more for marketing and attracting new personnel, especially Adrian Newey. Also, his experience and feedback from his time at Mercedes should be useful as well.
I really don't think Newey is too bothered about working at Ferrari, even with Lewis there. If Lewis had such a attractive pull then why hasn't Newey ever joined Merc?
@@empress_alex cause it's not Ferrari
@@empress_alex Rumors have it thta Elkann is talking to Newey, might come to nothing but Newey did say in multiple interviews that working for Ferrari and with Lewis are on his bucket list, now he has the only chance he'll ever get to do both in one shot, plus internal turmoil over at RB might push him to leave
Lewis has won about a hundred races more than Carlos. He hasn't forgotten how to win, but even he can't do anything with a car that dies on him!
Don't get me wrong, Carlos is a great driver, underrated by some - not all, and definitely not by me. He's not compared that favourably to Charles (mostly by the press). He's going to be a cracking addition to any team. He's not a flamboyant racer but he's a very intelligent one. Reminds me of Prost, "The Professor" on track. I'm sure he'll get a decent drive next year. It would be a crime if not.
He reminds me of Prost, as well. I was wondering if I was out of my mind for that comparison; it's nice to know that someone else sees it, too.
I see Prost in Carlos' potential. Right now, he's reminiscent of The Professor; my hope for him is that he continues to hone his racecraft and strategy to the point that the comparison is widely made and acknowledged.
We saw lewis complaining,but i think there's an element 9of the team ignoring his thoughts.
Plot twist:
In an attempt to improve entertainment in 2025, each team will have 3 drivers 😉 therefore, LeClerc, Hamilton & Sainz will be in 1 team
I think I would rather be in Carlos shoes than Charles, Lewis is going to expect special attention. Carlos will likely move on to a strong team and have success., Go Carlos, you gained at least one fan
Sainz is criminally underrated TEAM driver, the amount of defensive and self-sabotage driving he does for his teammates rarely gets praise, or even noticed at all. It's not glamorous and it doesn't win driver championships but it makes him likeable to the fans.
However, ultimately, it's his decision to race this way. The F1 greats are only great because they focus on being the fastest driver on track, every single time they compete. It may come across as selfish at times but they don't need to care about being liked or not, they know deep down individual results are what determine greatness in the long run.
It's a similar story with Checo, they have both made the conscious decision to be less competitive and accept their role as second best because they have allowed their constructors to delude them (and us fans) into thinking that the constructors championship is more important than the drivers championship.
I mean when he does happen to be selfish on track his teammate’s fans then slander and say he’s not a team player I think that part is very underrated you’re right
This was a banging video. It still kind of strange that Carlos doesn’t have a seat for 2025 but hopefully he gets one. He definitely strikes me as one of those drivers that deserves to be in a team where he has seen as the main driver. when he was at McLaren leading that team. I think he really pushed the environment and the performance. Maybe if he goes to Audi, he can get a fresh start and have a team he can build around himself
Hopeless for him to go for Audi sauber in the hope that they become a big team. We all thought Aston could be number 2 after a great start last year. They are 4th now.
He has to go for the top seats at Mercedes and RB, thirdly Aston, should Alonso retire / go to Mercedes.
I don't think it's really the people who work within F1 or the media who're labelling him "underrated", it's more the fans who unfortunately don't know a great driver when they see one, and there are a lot of them!
No they wont, they have already profited from signing Hamilton before he even drives for them...Ferrari are banging on having a championship winning car in 2026, this year and the next almost certainly belong to Red Bull..Carlos will probably try and get that 2nd RB seat, yes he probably cant beat Max in his own team but its his only chance to continue to fight for podiums and race wins..
However it’s time for Ferrari to end contract early.
If you can’t perform well on other team, don’t come here.
Wdym profited? pls do not tell me u thought the announcement raised ferrari's stocks 😭, the annual earnings report also released which help raised the prices. The investment banker in me is screaming when i hear "oh lewis made ferrari rich js frm the announcement"
@@javierplays9516where he only affected by a little percent he still made them richer .
@afallenworld1581 maybe a little, but the effect is not as amazing as ppl make it out to be. Its 2023 Q4 earnings were supreb which was why the stock price went up, simple research articles will debunk the hamilton claim, if you already learnt investing, even bttr u wld know its nt true.
@@javierplays9516 Cry all you want dude whether he made a little more, he still made the richer.
The biggest driver brand meets the biggest constructor brand, Ferrari hasn't complained or said no he didn't affect it.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁😀
It's a big mistake, but Ferrari should be used to mistakes by now.
Edit: Also, I wouldn't put Sainz on the same tier as Norris, Russell and Leclerc, he is one small step above that, since he consistently delivers. He is better than Leclerc for sure.
delusion if it manifested into a comment
@@zackaquetteh2901Oh, so you probably think Leclerc is better than Sainz then
@@zackaquetteh2901If Leclerc is better, why is it remotely close to begin with? If he really has the kind of speed people say, why did Carlos win in Australia and not him? There are countless "fast" drivers that never became anything for one reason or another (Alesi comes to mind), and if Leclerc doesn't iron out his inconsistencies that's gonna happen to him.
I don't understand the problem here. Ferrari made the biggest move in years. Leclerc will challenge the championship and Hamilton will bring his marketing value as 7times world champion. Win-win situation. Let the rest of the world have their opinion, who cares
The problem for Ferrari is that they are gonna have to rebuild the dinamic of the team with 7 times world champion in the mix, when they already have a great lineup that knows how to work together and have overcome so many lows of the team, it was time for Leclerc/Sainz started to enjoy the stability and improvements the team has done in this 3/4 years, but elkann wanted otherwise.
Hoping for Carlos finds a good team and Charles more patience
Short answer: yes, absolutely
Having had a somewhat similar surgery to Carlos with my gallbladder taken out, it is amazing the performance he did! I was still cautious to do anything strenuous let alone do it for hours on end even after 2 weeks!
these vids are mint af
The MSM make it sound like he was dropped for Ocon. Anyway, CS is great. There’s only one driver on the grid w/more capacity + race craft who, ironically, is his childhood hero Fernando.
Hot take. Ferrari and Lewis were mainly thinking commercially when they signed. Results are secondary
So not true
I am a Ferrari fan and also an avid Mercedes hater, I have been hating on them for a while but I am not a prisoner of the moment. Carlos is fantastic but saying Hamilton cannot drive at or above that level is ludicrous. I need to see it to believe it. Then again people thought Alonso was over the hill when he came back and look at him perform.. I believe that if you give Lewis the car he will produce above or at the same level as Carlos easily.
No they haven’t lol Lewis finished 3rd last year and nearly got 2nd in that tractor, if you think he’s suddenly lost his pace you’re crazy.
You never know... Ricciardo went from having a great 2020 in Renault to having a massive drop in form in McLaren.
@Aurantius_ Ricciardo had a good car with a bad teammate in 2020, to a great car with a great teammate in 2021. Ricciardo never changed, his teammates just got better
Being 3rd in the championship isn't really anything special when you're still 341 points behind 1st place and only 30 odd points ahead of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. He could literally have been overtaken in the points by any of those in just 2 races.
@@Fireglo no one was catching the rb19 in nearly won every race, also Lewis was in a car that was 3rd/4th quickest on average and he finished 3rd in the championship and his teammate finished 8th, so yeah finishing 3rd last year was something special.
@@kzv44Mercedes was not 3rd/4th fastest, it was 2nd fastest with Ferrari being roughly equal in pace. However, Ferrari was more unreliable, and Lewis didn't have a single reliability issue last year.
Not sure it depends if Lewis will improve (the Mercedes is ass)
I had same surgery when I was 12 yo. The pain before surgery can be pretty big, but the opeation and recovery are pretty good and fast. If it was a sport with more body mobility he probably would ve lost a month or so, but since its F1 as long as he is careful with the stitches, he should be fine.
lewis finished 3rd almost 2nd last season with the 3rd fastest car
And now he barely finishes in the points with a points scoring car so your point?He is in the 4th fastest car rn
@@greenfj1466 Oh so a DNF is somehow Hamilton's fault? Fake F1 fan detected, opinion rejected.
@@dianamaioru497 Finished Idk P7 in bahrain with the 3rd fastest car,Finished 9th In jeddah with the 4th fastest car,This is called barely finishing in points and if he had a full race in Australia he would probably be p9 or p8 lol so clearly He barely finishes in the points
I have never seen a team shoot themselves in the foot as much as Ferrari does. I am waiting for them to treat Sainz as they did with Vettel a few years back.
If you think that Hamilton is "pressured" by whether Ferrari regret choosing him or not then you are nothing short of a fool. Hamilton has had much more pressure than that in his carrier, all the way back from 2007 of proving himself to 2021 where he had to fight for an 8th world championship, and he didn't fumble one bit (maybe Baku but that's a unicorn of a mistake). Wanna see Hamilton under real pressure? Check his 07 and 08 seasons, check his 2014 and 2015 seasons, check his 2018 season, check his 2020 season, were sure it was "gifted" but he was chasing a record equaling 7 championships, the best where he showed his coolness under pressure is the last 4 races in 2021. He is not in any way shape or form pressured by this.
It feels like mercedes really is suffering from the mass departure of their lead engineers. It's just a guess but I think that their struggles are mostly down to that more than anything since even when they started seasons really badly they still managed to get all their problems sorted in a few weekends
100%, breaking up the best duo on the grid for guaranteed conflict isnt very smart from them.
It‘s the Ferrari way of doing things…
In other words, it's the most stereotypical Ferrari move ever.
The "best" lineup in F1 lost second in the WCC last year to a team with only one driver who performed.
They’ve already gained a couple billion in company value since signing Lewis. He hasn’t driven a race for them and they’ve already recouped his contract 10 times over. They won’t regret signing Lewis at all.
@@pdxholmes ferrari don't need money, they have plenty of that. I'm judging purely on the chaos that will most likely happen when the buddy-buddy period at the start dies down.
leclerc fans make every effort they can to make him sound better than sainz drives me nuts
No lol. Carlos getting alot of love rn and fair enough but lets be objective, he's not touching Charles or Lewis or even Max. He's done well to capitalize but ultimately leclerc & Hamilton got their race wins against Max whereas Sainz wins when the red bull is out.
Ferrari are definitely not regretting signing a 7x world champion to replace a 3 time race winner. Let’s not forget Lewis was fighting for P2 with the RB19 last year
Not touching Charles? Are you actually watching the races?
@@supertouring22 Carlos had arguably his best race for Ferrari and equally Charles literally had one of his worst weekends ever and he finished 2.3 seconds behind.
That tells you all u need to know
@@isakibrahim8316 You realize we've had more than one race in the past few years, right??
@@supertouring22don't worry this guy is a hamilton lec fan and we know how these guys react lol.
@@isakibrahim8316why did Charles not perform in Singapore or whenever max is not able to perform why does Sainz only manages to pull out the win while not lec and in 2022 there were many instances where Sainz was asked to let lec by when Sainz could have fought for the win it melts down to the team game sometimes dude just watch more races u will get the perspective.
1:53 -- Where can I get an F1 lawnmower??
I know what I'm asking for for Christmas next time.
Yes they will
Hamilton has shown he needs a very specific ride!
Also to be fair to leclerc
Carlos did this last year
Charles will do better the majority of the races
Couldn’t be more wrong but to be expected in a formula 1 vid comment section where everyone has lower iq than sainz has wins and still hate Lewis for being too good for his whole career
Next year will be his real test at adapting to a different engine, as he has spent his entire career driving a mercedes powered car
they will regret sticking with Leclerc for so long
Fantastic video!!
Lewis will do well with Ferrari but as well as Carlos has done is my concern. In my opinion Carlos is just beginning to show his true potential and this very well may eventually be a decision that Ferrari regrets.
16 & 55 is such a good duo plssss
I never thought much of Sainz until now. He’s been on 🔥 since Singapore last year performance wise, but even more than that, he’s handling all the off track problems he’s had this year with relative ease and he just keeps getting better and better.
Gotta applaud the guy for everything he’s been through, as a lesser driver would of fallen off so quickly but the guy is mentally tough.
Ferrari dug their own grave yet again as just when things were starting to look up, they just had to rock the boat.
Nevermind it’s their loss. At this point there’s no doubt in my mind RedBull will pick him up.
The real question is if they'll regret keeping Leclerc over Sainz imo
The 2024 season for Carlos has been really good so far, i feel like Carlos has a lot to show in F1 and i hope Carlos gets a top team next year. With that being said i feel this may bring ferrari a bit of a different point of view and experience as well
I love your videos. As a Ferrari fan i agree with you completely that leclerc is a slightly better driver than sainz and i would add that Leclerc has been riddled with bad luck especially at the start of last season and has started to improve on the mistakes he was making 2 and 3 years ago. I would agree with you that leclerc is just better at putting a whole season together and i would add that i think he still has a big potential for a higher ceiling and with the right car is definitely able to win a driver's championship. Sainz is an amazing driver but i don't see him beating leclerc for a driver's championship in the same car and Lewis is one of the few that you can say with confidence is an upgrade on sainz.
Great video Aldas.
yes they will, sainz is on the way up and ham on the way out maybe at least mentally since the last 3 years but will be interesting to see what happens this and next season.
Short answer: absolutely not. Ferrari had to make a choice between Leclerc and Sainz for their future, they couldn't keep them both in one team and keep the garage harmonious. They chose Leclerc which makes sense: not only is he the more consistent driver but he is the literal messiah in the eyes of some tifosi. Then, Ferrari had a real problem from mismanagement under Binotto, and while Fred Vasseur has cleaned out some of that rot, he needs good talent to replace it. Enter Hamilton. This signing isn't about Lewis being a top driver, that will frankly likely be Leclerc's job, rather Ferrari signed Lewis Hamilton in order to poach top tier talent from every other team they can, using Lewis as a lure. Lewis will likely retire after three years, and in the long term, Ferrari have Ollie Bearman, who has already proved himself in a Ferrari. Hamilton is a vital piece in Fred Vasseur's plan to rebuild the team to get them up to a technical standard to win world championships.
Sainz will likely go to Audi in 2026 anyway. I think what could be possible is Sainz to Merc for a year, while Merc scramble to train up Kimi Antonelli, then Sainz to Audi. I don't believe in Sainz to Red Bull-I remember the rumoured infighting at Toro Rosso in 2015-16 between the Sainz and Verstappen camps, and besides, Sainz will clearly always be n2 at Red Bull as long as Max Verstappen is there.
You’re usually very concise with what you say but saying he’s not underrated then saying he’s under appreciated is basically contradicting yourself. Most people do underrate him. Mainstream media always says Charles is a much better driver
What do you think that Carlos would be able to achieve in this year's Merc and what would Lewis would be able to achieve in this year's Ferrari?
I’m willing to put money down that Hamilton will negatively destabilise Ferrari dynamics and soon will be bitching and moaning how bad the Ferrari is.
Lewis is coming down there because he sees things are getting good.
@@georgiosioannispappas6311 although it's important to be noted that Alonso and Vettel came to Ferrari exactly because of that reason too. And neither able to win titles with Ferrari
Even if Ferrari had a championship winning car, they would find a way to f**k it up. The worst managed team with the biggest budget in F1. And I believe getting rid of Carlos and replacing him with Hamilton is proof of that.
I think it’s too early to say. Lewis is not performing great compared to Sainz, but the Merc is just less competitive than the Ferrari at this stage. We have to wait until we can compare apples with apples ie Charles vs Lewis in the same car next year.
I’m getting so ready for #teamLHblessed to have a litany of excuses for why he’s trailing Charles next year!
The excuse this year is that the car is bad despite george driving the same car
And I'm getting ready for all the hater's excuses for hating him, rather than admitting what we all know is the actual reason: His skin colour.
@@empress_alex Well if you lived in my country you'd know its not because he's black and I don't hate him I think he is one of the best ever but I also know he is not on leclercs level as he is now,He is washed
@@empress_alex actually no, it’s more of the fans like you that make me dislike him. I could care less about his skin color.
I doubt it. You don’t drop that kind of loot in a driver if he is questionable. Just look at their stock since announcing his commitment. ❤❤❤
Leclerc is going into LIFER mode next year
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Sainz fan here but definitely ferrari did not make a mistake.
short term, hamilton is overall worth the swap, long term bearman should be good to fill the spot that hamilton will leave so they seems to be covered, probably bearman won't be as competitive as sainz but time will speak.
Great analysis. Particularly agree with the Lewis onboard,looks like he's driving a shopping cart
About him being underrated, when there’s talks of a Ferrari Title Challenge is coming up it’s always only Leclerc people talk about. So with all fairness, him being underrated in comparison holds true. Also I think Ferrari made a Mistake given chemistry and age and mindset, but we will see
Lewis is 40 next year and he's up against the best qualifier on the grid. Yes he's a 7X champ and the greatest of all time but this is the Hamilton from 2024, not the one from 2018-21, its a repeat of Rosberg and Schumacher at Mercedes from 2010-12
I hope carlos gets signed by rb. That way we'll somehow be able to compare the drivers and not the cars of the 3 teams. I'm expecting max to prove he's the best and to find out hamilton is not much more of an average driver, but time will tell.
Its kinda genious by Vasseur to kick sainz since the begining of the season, cause that can spice his own performances
I’d love to see Carlos at Red Bull. He’d certainly be more consistent than Checo, and has already been teammates with Max in the past. They seem to get along quite well. If Carlos is anywhere close to Checo’s points at the summer break, I’m sure Red Bull will be strongly considering getting him in that second seat. I’m sure they’re having talks about it already. They should be if they aren’t.
Ferrari and Mercedes had fairly equal cars? Are kidding me mate? Ferrari was 2nd fastest team on the grid, the only why they finished behind Mercedes is because of that ridiculous penalty in Las Vegas
Ferrari had higher highs but lower lows and definitely more lows
To be fair, I feel like most people are not worried because they think Hamilton wasn't good, but rather cause he is pretty old by F1 standards and everytime he doesn't perform some will think it's age catching up ( after all Alonso proved you can perform when over 40, but other drivers struggled a lot )
Ferrari don't need to be a fast/reliable driver but a face that mounts pressure over the team.
Alonso did that, same for Seb during 2017-2018 and now Lewis fits the bill as well. Tifosi works well when the driver market value puts them in a tight spot.
To be honest I haven’t even payed attention to what’s going on to Hamilton. I’m just writing off this entire season for him, and this is barely the fourth race.
One thing is for certain about this driver change for 2025:
Leclerc *_needs_* to stamp his authority in the team because even though Leclerc has arguably the best one-lap pace of the entire field, that pace means nothing if you can't string the whole weekend together. Ferrari Corporate's move to sign Hamilton under Vasseur's nose is already a damning vote of no confidence to the Scuderia from Corporate, and I suspect if Leclerc can't beat Sainz this year Hamilton will be getting preferential treatment from 2025 and beyond.
Saying Carlos is not as good as Leclerc over a full season is just not true. He BEAT him in the 2021 championship, and came within SIX points in 2023. He and Leclerc have been neck and neck throughout their time at Ferrari (besides the first half of 2022). Leclerc gets the edge over him in pure performance, but Mr. Consistent Carlos is the real deal, and deserves all the praise he is getting.
This will be game on if RedBull steal Sainz back and he starts winning and Ferrari become winless next year
Only Verstappen may get worried a bit if an improved Sainz becomes his teammate again
No regret, you will see game changer next year
No.
If they’re not going to get Sainz to do the number 2 driver role he was hired for (Leclerc could be leading the title right now) then they might as well just have two actual number ones. And the marketing speaks for itself
Huge Carlos fan but Lewis simply will bring in more money so in a business sense makes sense…but atm Carlos is in top form 😂
Imagine Carlos winning a championship this year
Yes. Toto seen the collapse of Lewis, he knows signing Bottas gifted Lewis the bulk of his championships.
And Toto didn’t want Lewis anymore, didn’t want to offer more then two years.
Lewis lost to Russell in 2022 and is behind Russell again. Against Leclerc in a new team with a different language, logic says it is simple never going to happen.
Abu Dhabi 2021 is the moment where Lewis should have retired. If he would have stated that “he didn’t want to be involved in an unfair sport” he would have been an eternal legend. Every time unfair rulings would have been given he would have been referenced.
Now he threw it all away within a couple of years. He got beaten to much by teammates to consider him a legend.
Are pictures from RaceFans royalty free or are they copyrighted?
Video assumes Hamilton is still the driver of 7 years ago.
i think they rushed a lot, sure Hamilton is a big name and EVERY team would love to have him, but i honestly don't see Ham as a WAY better driver than Lec or Carlos. so yeah i do think Ferrari rushed.
Ain't not way you said that while ham finished p3 last year 💀
I think this entire conversation boils down to people just not wanting to see Carlos without a drive next year, and the win in Australia just put more fuel in the fire
Will Ferrari regret? Is it the right decision? Too early to call, we're only 3 rounds in
I'll only say this, Carlos is a good driver and should be on the grid next year
Looking at their bank accounts, they won't mind a bit. From a sporting perspective it wasn't Ferrari's best decision ever
It's hard to turn down Hamilton, but man Sainz is on absolute fire this season so far, and we all know how incompetent Ferrari are...