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- čas přidán 13. 10. 2014
- The front end and grille of this car is exceptional, in my book! Too bad the model year was cut so short. Cars were a very valuable commodity during the war...a carl like this could easily survive the entire automotive shut down.
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Very nice restoration and the interior plastic (?) is very eye catching. Horn sound at that time was definitely and they were quite melodious ( B4 and G#4 or something like that. $80 K - surprising for a plain Jane.
Hey, Chester! I think the plastic may have been better identified as bakelite, but not sure. It sure was colorful, and I see bakelite bracelets at antique shows all the time. Those horns really were cool...and you to some degree tell the luxury level of the car. Our Henry J had but one tone, as I remember! Thanks! :) Jack
Known as the c34 3 passenger business man's coupe. The total of 250 businessman C-34 coups made in 1942, with an all new bodystyle, alligator style Hood, running boards enclosed inside the doors, and a sales brochure that bragged all new plastic dashboard!
In the c34 business man's coupe there were 3 models the Royal, the Saratoga, and the Windsor, with the Windsor being the top of the line with the line . A semi-automatic fluid drive transmission which is one of the first versions of an automatic. Only the very earliest produced had full polished stainless steel trim packages with chrome bumpers in most of it some Chrome on the bumpers details. As the model year progressed the trim got progressively shorter, blacked out, and eventually replaced with plastic strips. What are the smoothest quietest cars I've ever ridden in bar known as absolute dream to drive. So quiet you think it started and you let the starter button and realized it was running the entire time and hadn't died at all just very quiet and smooth no roughness in the idle amazing
Hey, Will! Thanks for the details on the business man's coupe. I for one didn't realize it came in three trim levels. I'm glad you had experience with them...and give some testimony about how well they ran and drove. Thanks! :) Jack
I believe the plastic is actually Bakelite. Also, these cars weren't numbered if memory serves me correctly. This was the last car Mr. Chrysler actually had a hand in designing, and because he was unsure how many he would make or how they would sell, they didn't wear #s... so nobody knows just how many are out there.
A friend has one he's been wanting to sell me, as he's into motorcycles which takes up most of his time. It's in nowhere near this shape, however. The Chrysler flathead six was a great engine, and coupled with the overdrive makes for nice long distance touring. This is an exquisite car.
I'd bet you're right about the plastic...I remember bakelite being used for radio cases and measuring cups. It was rather brittle, and almost without exception would crack if dropped. That's a very interesting detail about the serial numbers. The war sure changed what car companies did! That would be a very interesting restoration for you to undertake. The other car of this period that I much covet is the 1942 DeSoto with the hidden headlamps! Thanks! :) Jack
Jack R
I also have a very warm spot in my heart for a DeSoto model, the 1958 Fireflite.
20alphabet Yes, it's one of a kind...the ultimate expression of the Forward Look! Thanks! :) Jack
Hey Jack. Sweet looking pre-WWII Chrysler. :)
Hey, Jason! One of the nicest Chryslers I know of! Thanks! :) Jack
Jack R I agree. it's too bad cars were discontinued during the war. Even if they weren't used for civilian purposes, they could've still been used by military personnel. I love the visor above the windscreen. :)
Jason Carpp Hey, Jason! Not sure about this, but I think some car manufacturing was happening for military staff cars, most likely, Ford. Thanks! :) Jack
Didn't Patton have a Cadillac?
If this car was originally equipped with chrome trim, then it was made on or before December 31, 1941. After that, they had to do "black-out" trim. The plastic interior is actually "Baceklite" (a polybenz...). They made exactly 250 three window, three passenger coupes before production ended on January 21st (I think). It was probably black originally. That "vacuum reservoir" he talks about is an added inline canister paper fuel filter (in addition to the glass bowl sediment filter below it). I own a 1942 eight passenger sedan, of which they only made 29. Good luck to the new owner. Rich...
Thanks for the clarification on the black out trim....I have yet to see a car with it. I remember bakelite...early "plastic" cabinet radios used it...it was brittle, and had a pronounced tendency to crack even when handled gently. They also made colorful bracelets and necklaces from the stuff. Great that you have a '42! Thanks! :) Jack
Just found my own car in your videos. (1942 Chrysler Royal Limo 9 Passenger 2012 in The Villages.) How funny is that? Kind regards, Rich C.
nice dash nice coupe intresting how model types coming back.like town country
Hey, Alberto! Yes, I've always been interested in these seldom seen Chrysler models. They all had great style! Thanks! :) Jack
I have a 42 Chrysler business coupe with a gull wing hood
Hey, Mark! That has to be a really rare car! Those were the days of the massive grilles and huge engine compartments! Thanks! :) Jack
I've own the same car in Polo Green since I was 13 . There was the Royal, Saratoga and Windsor. Windsor was the top of the line in Business Coupes, a.k.a. C-34 series 3 Passenger Business Coupe. !942 was the first year for this body style and many other firsts, including enclosed running boards and plastic dash, not bakealite.
There were approx. 250 Business Coupes produced in 1942. As the end of production neared the body trim was shortened for the needed metals, then blacked out , towards the end even some plastic body trim replaced the metal. Yes they were numbered as well, mine is an earlier model distinguishable by the full trim and the the diaphragm versus the plunger style overdrive lockout mechanism controlled by the knob to the right of the steering column.
The car has what is called "Fluid Drive". It was one of the first automatic type transmissions and although it has a clutch, it is only necessary to use it to shift from High to Low range on steep roads and into reverse . You can come to a complete stop and start out without ever pushing in the "Safety Clutch" as its referred to; when you hit a certain RPM, you simply let your foot off the throttle pedal a moment and the transmission shifts automatically to the next gear.
The Spitfire Flathead Six engine runs so smoothly and quietly that it is easy to think you have stalled, then hit the starter button when it is still in fact running. The ride is equally as smooth. The car has 16 inch wheels and the Business Coupes had no Chrysler script on the hubcaps, or whitewalls. Also , I believe the vacuum canister pointed out in the video is for the vacuum operated windshield wipers.
This model car is my first car and the one I learned to drive in. I still own it and would never consider parting with it. My numerous brothers, sisters, Aunts, Uncles, and cousins would never speak to me again. My '42 had 46,000 miles when I bought it and now has 68,000 miles. My Grandad originally bought it for my Grandma, she called it her Bubble. I remember riding all over the countryside with her in it doing the 1970 census report as well as dozens of fishing trips with my brothers and Grandpa, plus many drives across the great state known as "God's Country". Iowa of course!
Thanks for the very complete rundown on this car! Glad you have one like it! I think it shows the prowess of Chrysler engineering at the time! Very dependable and this car is quite stylish, besides. Bakelite is classified as an early plastic...but not as durable as the plastic that you have in your car, no doubt. Radio cases were made of it, and it had a nasty habit of cracking when subjected to shock. Thanks again for all the cool information! :) Jack
I think I've died and gone to Heaven! What a beautiful..AND rare car! A '42!! Rare doesn't even begin to cover it.. and what a lesson in history! Can you imagine today, if car production were halted completely for a war effort!
This 1942 Chrysler Windsor is a work of art! One can't help but love the lines and trim! The exterior color is perfect.. Then.. When you opened the door.. I nearly fell right over backward! Gorgeous! Gorgeous! Gorgeous! The dash is striking! Everything! I don't believe I have ever seen anything so beautiful! The restoration on this car is phenomenal! At $80,000.. I'm positive.. Someone will snatch that up at some point!
Interesting about those beauty rings! I never knew that! It was totally amazing what came about, as a result of WWII.. when everything was rationed, or was sent to the war effort.. Technology too! Quite a time like no other.. A rare and beautiful jem! Thanks Jack! One of a kind! :D
Hey, Karyn! I have always loved this year Chrysler and DeSoto. They both appeared in the film: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strange_Love_of_Martha_Ivers
The Chrysler was famous for its grille...the DeSoto for its disappearing headlights!
The movie is strange..but good acting, and of course, I'm most interested in the cars! LOL!. They were getting into the area of colorful interiors, as this car demonstrates. Plenty of chrome to emphasize that cool front end! I too hope that the car has found a good home. Thanks! :) Jack
Hey, Karyn...here's the movie: The Strange Love of Martha Ivers (Barbara Stanwyck and Kirk Douglas) (full movie)
Enjoy! :) Jack
Hey, Jack! Thank You! I will watch it this weekend! Of course.. I, too, will be looking at the cars!
*Rough day.. I definitely need me some of those "beauty rings"!
*Circles under my eyes, and I keep trippin' over my eyelids! LOL! ;)
You should have told that guy who was in the way during filming to move it or lose it! LOL Awesome car as always! :D
Hey, guys! I was saving that for a video that you guys could have starred in...he'd have been soooo remorseful! LOL! Thanks! :D Jack
Hey Jack, this is a really nice Chrysler Windsor. Beautiful condition.i'm going to guess this car is very rare, judging by that price tag. That interior looks amazing, and so does that paint. That trunk is enormous Someone definitely spared no expense in restoring this car!.
Hey, Lee! I agree...this has to be one of the rarest of all 1942 Chryslers. It sure is in beautiful condition, it's nice to see that one of this age has been so completely restored! Thanks! :) Jack
Nice car! It does look weird having both white walls AND beauty rings. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember plastic back then (not quite back then - i was roughly negative 1 year old when this car was built) was called bakelite. Am i right or were there other plastics well in use by then?
I think the plastic that found its way into the home was bakelite at this point...very brittle and subject to shattering. Old table radios from this time had bakelite cases, as well as measuring cups in the kitchen, and a lot of colorful jewelry like bracelets. Real bakelite utilized formaldehyde, which would raise eyebrows today. I think the plastic used in cars was a little more sophisticated and more durable. "Better Living Through Chemistry" applies here as I'm sure DuPont was active in the area. www.realorrepro.com/article/Is-it-Bakelite
As you can see, the plastic used in cars today bears little resemblance to the '40's plastic:
plastics-themag.com/Plastics-and-cars:-a-shared-history Thanks! :) Jack
Thanks for the links. Who knew that Bakelite pieces would one day be worth a fortune?!
It's hard to figure. Most of the bakelite I knew at the time was kitchenware, an unattractive black matte color, prone to breaking. Thanks! :) Jack
I remember the kitchenware, too - and the radio we had in our kitchen, too.
That is a rare one with crome trim . How many were made before war time production stoped ?
Hey, Timothy! Here's an article that helps illuminate the issue:
auto.howstuffworks.com/chrysler2.htmT
Painted metal was used after Jan 1, 1942. 5292 cars were built during the calendar year that presumably ran only 6 weeks or so. 36,000 approximately during the model year. Thanks! :) Jack
Rare, precious, and beautiful, yes, but 80 Gs? Criminy! You could get THREE imperials in good shape for those kind of $. I reckon I'll let the avid collectors have this one. ;-)
Hey, Roger! I know...the price seems high. I think I'd rather have a convertible of this vintage at that price! Thanks! :) Jack
not many 42 models, their few and far between! Didn't they stop production around Jan 42?
I remember seeing old ladies driving Chryslers ( looked like this, but more like a 47 or 48 Model) when I was a kid. So they must have held up
Hey, Brian! Not sure of the exact date that production stopped...but I'd say December '41 or January '42 are safe bets. These cars were very well built, and had no trouble being driven for years..there were virtually no changes between the pre and post war cars, except cosmetic ones. Thanks! :) Jack
yes, those old ladies were driving them into the late 60's early 70's
califdad4 Hey, Brian! they probably didn't have that many miles on them either! Thanks! :) Jack
No, the interior plastic is not bakelite.
Hey, Michael! Here's a look at the catalog for the '42: www.xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1942-Chrysler-.pdf You'll note that they refer to the trim as "plastic" with no further explanation or definition. I think you're right, my guess is that the "plastic" used in this model isn't bakelite, for that is too brittle, but some polymer. I call it plastic for it is what the name suggests, "moldable". Its exact composition seems in this case to be lost in time. www.acs.org/content/acs/en/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/bakelite.html Thanks! :) Jack
@@coolrides I think it was Tenite, a plastic that was flexible and unbreakable. It can be made into colors. Bakelight is a dark brown or black. Plus, it is almost as brittle as glass, and where frequently touched, loses it's shine.
Hey, Angelita! Thanks for shedding light on the plastic used. Such a novel discovery, it sure added color to interiors...and offered something more than chrome and painted wood grain to interiors! I've heard that bakelite is dark...somehow they must have figured how to add color to bakelite jewelry. Thanks! :) Jack
@@coolrides Either it has an outside coating, or, it might actually be something called catylyn. ( I might not be spelling it right). It is a thermosetting pioneering plastic like Bakelite, but is light-colored and can be colored to any color you want.
A beautiful car ! I am lucky enough to own a 1942 Windsor in original condition here in England ,its a right hand drive car originally out of Monti video , in South Americamy car is Maroon with the perfect plastic interior except for the mice have attacked the cloth seats which are original (before I got the car ) you can see it atop of my club website www.classicamericanautoclub.co.uk. David Von Munth'e
+David von munthe Hey, David! I checked...and that is a beautiful Chrysler you have on the other side of the pond...interesting that it is right hand drive! I'm guessing that Uruguay drove on the left too! The plastic in these vintage Chryslers was quite good...I remember it in the post war versions. I'm glad your fellow members have a good look at a prewar classic Chrysler, and that you have the pleasure of driving it! Thanks! :) Jack