A "Eureka" for Solar Energy | Bert Conings | TEDxUHasselt

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  • Harnessing sunlight to meet the ever increasing demand for energy at the global scale has long been pursued by scientists and engineers.
    During his talk, Dr. Conings will discuss the relevance of solar energy, an everlasting sustainable energy source, that can reduce the dependency on adverse carbon emitting energy resources. Getting at the physical chemistry of burgeoning metal halide perovskites, his talk will focus more deeply on the groundbreaking photovoltaic applications of this state-of-the-art material class, shedding light on their ability to drastically improve global solar energy harvesting.
    Harnessing sunlight to meet the ever increasing demand for energy at the global scale has long been pursued by scientists and engineers. Materials scientist Dr Bert Conings, from the Institute for Materials Research (IMO-IMOMEC) at Hasselt University, is among researchers on the vanguard pushing technological boundaries to increase the efficiency of solar energy production. During his talk entitled “A "Eureka" for Solar Energy”, Dr. Conings will discuss the relevance of solar energy, an everlasting sustainable energy source, that can reduce the dependency on adverse carbon emitting energy resources. Getting at the physical chemistry of burgeoning metal halide perovskites, his talk will focus more deeply on the groundbreaking photovoltaic applications of this state-of-the-art material class, shedding light on their ability to drastically improve global solar energy harvesting.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

Komentáře • 225

  • @phoenixquill6257
    @phoenixquill6257 Před 7 lety +63

    Actually the most exciting thing about color tuning is greenhouses that absorb IR,UV & Green to generate electricity while letting the Red/Blue for photosynthesis through.
    Ditto for windows in homes & cars. We can't see UV or IR, which means a 'transparent' window could be a solar panel while simultaneously being cooler & sunburn free.

    • @wino0000006
      @wino0000006 Před 5 lety +3

      UV does not pass any ordinary glass - thus any glazed window protects from UV radiation.

    • @aini9528
      @aini9528 Před 5 lety +2

      This is not science but plants in the nature grow accustomed to UV light, it's properties (yes harmful, but in same analogy might make them stronger such as wind makes plant stems stronger allowing them to grow bigger fruit) should be studied. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any input in this.

    • @duggydugg3937
      @duggydugg3937 Před 5 lety

      tuning ? tinting ?

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 4 lety +1

      Video starts at 7:48
      Skip the BS
      TL:DR Tandem Solar cells with element wiggle room that can be sandwhiched ontop of each other in same solar cell unit area to double electricity generation AND can be made different colors or transparent to be used in windows too.

  • @boowonder888
    @boowonder888 Před 6 lety +27

    This year I will take in one ted talk a day instead of all the bad news I took in every morning.

    • @stokey99
      @stokey99 Před 5 lety +2

      try not commenting your thoughts once a day too

  • @teddybear2840
    @teddybear2840 Před 6 lety +15

    I was expecting that he would also discuss one major disadvantage of perovskite. They dont last long compared to silicon cells. Perovskite breaks down fairly quick outdoors when exposed to heat, snow, moisture etc. Which is where most of the time we need them to be. I also heard concerns about Perovskites being a toxic material. I feel the talk was being biased vs silicon based solar cells.

    • @johnarena7819
      @johnarena7819 Před 5 lety

      Again solar is useless

    • @emlillthings7914
      @emlillthings7914 Před 5 lety +1

      That's why they're coated in more resistant materials, like glass

    • @somoprovahalder1819
      @somoprovahalder1819 Před 5 lety +1

      How about the idea if we coat the exterior surface of the perovskite window or surface with a layer of graphene? Its only one atom thick, transparent and an extremely good conductor of energy.

    • @chadurot1773
      @chadurot1773 Před 4 lety +1

      Instead of giving a negative comment or reaction why not think of other idea that could help harness the solar energy. We need some brilliant ideas out there that could be of much help than giving some criticisms. Now is the right time to make a move and use the available resources specifically the enewable sources such as solar energy.

    • @chadurot1773
      @chadurot1773 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeps that would be a disadvantage and maybe right now they are still trying to innovate it and making it more efficient for fit in commercial use. As what i have understand all they want is to help us more comfortable in our daily lives and most importantly environmental friendly.

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you Dr Conings. Maybe I missed it but I don't recall efficiencies being mentioned. The last record efficiency record I'm aware of was in 2016 of 22% with theoretical maximum efficiency of 30%, still a little behind silicon based cells where lab versions have gone as high as 40%. Perovskites cells are also prone to failure if moisture is present (much more so than silicon). I'm sure these cells will find their place where their unique properties will shine but silicon has a big head start that is likely to keep it in the lead for sometime.

  • @EccentricaGallumbits
    @EccentricaGallumbits Před 7 lety +43

    I so totally disagree with Luke -- this is in NO WAY boring! In fact it's one of the most exciting TEDs I've seen. I guess world-changing ideas just aren't enough for some people...

    • @billcichoke2534
      @billcichoke2534 Před 6 lety +1

      World-changing, eh? Going from one of the most common, CHEAP materials (silicon) to possibly something LESS common or easy to deal with? Turning to a technology that would drop us from a high standard of living to turd-world levels?
      I guess we have a different idea as to what 'world-changing' should mean. I would rather we harness wave energy and nuclear, both of which are continuous and far cleaner overall, than something intermittent and unreliable and land intensive like wind or solar.

    • @court2379
      @court2379 Před 6 lety +3

      Bill Cichoke
      Plus even if solar panels were 100% efficient and super cheap, it would not change the world much. The existing technology is already quite reasonable. You can buy panels for .25/Watt US. Now the issue is the cost of the inverters, and the bigger problem which he skips, energy storage. Solar is after all an intermittent power source.
      You want a world changing technology, invent a safe direct electric storage device with 10x the current energy density of batteries, capable of 1000s of cycles, that costs a bit less.
      Even if this theory pans out it will only be an incremental improvement, not world changing.

  • @eurekadog
    @eurekadog Před 6 lety

    One of the most important, and entertaining lectures I've seen in years. Great speaker.

  • @Chimonger1
    @Chimonger1 Před 5 lety +2

    Love the ability to print them at home, or maybe paint them onto the house..great for repairs, and keeping costs low.

  • @davidgill5686
    @davidgill5686 Před 5 lety +2

    At the present time electric solar cells only work in one or two of the light spectrums and have efficiency ratings between 15 to 40% . The highest rates tend to be very expensive and lower efficiency rates tend to be more cost efficient provided there is the space for more panels.
    If Perovskite will work in all the light spectrums and is more cost effective in production of solar panels, this will be a VERY BIG improvement.
    Coupled with the new rechargeable batteries that are in development we are going to see a viable alternative to making and storing electric power which could make many homes independent from the National Grid.

  • @xxwookey
    @xxwookey Před 7 lety +18

    Nice talk. I liked the understated humour. He did forget to mention the biggest problem: lifetime. Unlike silicon cells which seem to reliably last for at least 30 years, perovskites don't last very long at all. It would have been good to hear how research is doing with increasing the lifetime, possibly by encapsulation, or variants. It certainly does look like we could get some nice products that extend the solar possibilities though. Roll on.

    • @thettin684
      @thettin684 Před 7 lety +2

      Most of the research are now focusing on stability, with some compromise on efficiency. There are lots of progress, but in my opinion, would need another 3 to 5 years.

    • @onestagetospace4892
      @onestagetospace4892 Před 6 lety +3

      Any ideas on cost? Because if they are really cheap, lifetime becomes less of an issue

    • @burt591
      @burt591 Před 6 lety

      .

    • @de0509
      @de0509 Před 6 lety +2

      @ONESTAGETOSPACE Id like to not have to climb up the roof every year and haul stuff down and haul stuff up and potentially risk having no power while doing the replacement

    • @jessstuart7495
      @jessstuart7495 Před 6 lety

      Shhhhhhhhh! The investors will hear you!

  • @teknonel
    @teknonel Před 6 lety +5

    like it or not, Solar is the future. in near future we will be out of fossil fuel and coal. we will have to improve this technology.

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 Před 5 lety

      We will never run out of fossil fuel/coal.

  • @farookfarook6805
    @farookfarook6805 Před 6 lety +2

    revolutionary idea... Very good presentation

  • @waltlange
    @waltlange Před 6 lety +4

    Has a form of perovskite been developed that is not subject to water and sunlight degradation? Isn't the problem with perovskite that it's highly unstable compared to silicon?

    • @marduchok
      @marduchok Před 4 lety

      so far the longest lifetime of perovskite panels is 1 year. We need at least 20 years to start using them

  • @MadisonCheyne
    @MadisonCheyne Před 6 lety +4

    This was an amazing talk thank you very much. And thank you to the comments because it gave em a lot of questions I can potentially ask my professors about. I love how informative this was, again, thank you!

  • @stevencaskey8502
    @stevencaskey8502 Před 4 lety

    Some of us have been using solar since the. 60's. The new tech for lighting , batteries, and solar is dramatic. Perovskite is even better than silicon. Graphine is above amazing.

  • @wino0000006
    @wino0000006 Před 5 lety

    I know that there are claddings and curtain walls that have incorporated PV cells - however there are two major problems: it is not cost effective - you spend huge amount of extra money for PV facade and installation that will return in 30-40 yearst; the PV facade cannot be installed on the whole building - it purly depends on the direction of the Sun exposure; you can't do it in quite dense areas where you risk that within few years there would be constructed another building that would shade your building facade.

  • @somoprovahalder1819
    @somoprovahalder1819 Před 5 lety

    An excellent idea posed... With a lot of research potential in the present and upcoming world

  • @willemlambert5019
    @willemlambert5019 Před 5 lety +3

    When I read the comments, there are two things that smack me. ONE : people worry about what to do when it's dark. TWO : Why didn't we hear nothing in two years time ?
    Number two is easy to answer. There will be a huge "throwback power" and that is called Oil. You cannot imagine what people who are selling oil will do (and capable of) to slow down or even stop this project,... money talk and,...well, you know. The oil kings are still ruling the world.
    Number one, that take a bit more time but,... : First I like to pint out that the sun NEVER goes down if you see it on world scale. Once there was a kingdom where the sun never goes down. Well, if we should be able (on technology scale) to join hands then It would be possible to build a chain of stations around the globe and connect them. IF we can build very long gas lines to deliver gas several hundreds of miles, then we should be able to deliver electrical power as well. See it like a network of cables which are used now to deliver your internet.
    Just a thought,....

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 Před 5 lety

      Not a chain of stations connected by wires. A chain of microwave towers, perhaps.

  • @markcampbell7577
    @markcampbell7577 Před 3 lety

    Silicon is the base of old solar panels and plastic is the element that converts light to electrons. The quality common to all halogenated vinyl molecules is also common to halogenated vinyl polymers. The silicon platinum or nickel steel base creates the cells and conductors of electricity formed by the plastic.

  • @dennisr.levesque2320
    @dennisr.levesque2320 Před 6 lety +1

    Sounds promising. Now, to get it out of the lab and into practical usage. That will be the real proving ground.

  • @davidhoar75
    @davidhoar75 Před 6 lety +1

    I hope somebody in the world is using the same process Dr.Lee and Prof.Snaith used when finding a silicon substitute, for finding an even more efficient and environmentally friendly battery for the future.
    Excellent video Bert, thank you for sharing!

  • @paolomartini150
    @paolomartini150 Před 6 lety +7

    Great news but please have a glass of water man.

  • @EcoDimension
    @EcoDimension Před 6 lety

    i wonder how many of these must we build in order to adsorb enough sun's energy tot lower global temperatures....

  • @absolutethinker7764
    @absolutethinker7764 Před 4 lety +1

    Watch at 1.5 speed. Much easier to watch actually.

  • @Khepramancer
    @Khepramancer Před 5 lety +1

    I'm thinking layers of this for an electric car's exterior. Color tuned for a good looking finish, and power gathering efficiency.

  • @MsSomeonenew
    @MsSomeonenew Před 6 lety

    Well it's always nice to get new horses in the race.
    I'm not sure they are quite there to compete with the current simplicity of silicone cells, but as long as they keep developing surely something usable will come out of it.
    Edit: I just checked overall progress and while they were the fastest developing tech they are slowing down to just slight improvements, and they apparently fade within months.

  • @MassDynamic
    @MassDynamic Před 6 lety +5

    when you talk about wind energy, you sorta talking about sun energy as well. wind depends on sun

    • @nguyenvu8262
      @nguyenvu8262 Před 4 lety +1

      When you eat, the stuff that you eat eat stuff that grow by the sun. Yes, we are all powered by the sun.

  • @--DW
    @--DW Před 5 lety +8

    efficiency is not the problem. Its called night time. Storage is the real issue solve that.

    • @johnarena7819
      @johnarena7819 Před 5 lety +1

      And that's why solar is not the answer

    • @koerbagh
      @koerbagh Před 5 lety +2

      When we use only sunpower, one day without sunlight in the Netherlands needs storage of 300000000 KWh in Batteries, Is that possible? Wishfull thinking?

    • @macioluko9484
      @macioluko9484 Před 4 lety

      @@johnarena7819 Tesla has a battery product for the home, small and large business energy storage. They are working on the price of these items to decrease each year. In two months they will announce tremendous advances in battery technology. Solar + Battery storage is the answer.

    • @johnarena7819
      @johnarena7819 Před 4 lety

      @@macioluko9484 so how many years will it take of savings before the batteries and solar pay themselves off. The fact that scientists can't even agree on co2 being the cause of global warming is where the research should go...it is a waste on of time and money

    • @leonesperanza3672
      @leonesperanza3672 Před 4 lety

      @@macioluko9484 thorium can be a potential game changer too.

  • @eduardoenrrique4502
    @eduardoenrrique4502 Před 5 lety

    This video Is very interesting and have enough information to learn clears

  • @mauriciourdaneta8792
    @mauriciourdaneta8792 Před 6 lety

    Whats the name of the material? and anyone know were can we buy it?

  • @johnbranca6031
    @johnbranca6031 Před 5 lety +21

    For the love of god. Get him something to drink.

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 4 lety +1

      Video starts at 7:48
      Skip the BS
      TL:DR Tandem Solar cells with element wiggle room that can be sandwhiched ontop of each other in same solar cell unit area to double electricity generation AND can be made different colors or transparent to be used in windows too.

    • @nealtauss1715
      @nealtauss1715 Před 3 lety

      @@DylanBegazo ....Thrill Baby Thrill....

  • @harijotkhalsa5546
    @harijotkhalsa5546 Před 5 lety +2

    I'm listening to this after a year and a half and wondering why we haven't seen more of this eureka scientific breakthrough yet.
    Then I read the comments and apparently it's not better than other solar panels because it has a short life. I guess that's why this hasn't taken off?

    • @sarmeetsingh4650
      @sarmeetsingh4650 Před 4 lety

      naa. its more to do with a Russian sounding name to be honest. if it was JFKsite, clintonsite or something, it would be on the moon by now.

  • @paulman79
    @paulman79 Před 6 lety +3

    perovskite lattice disintegrate under UV and blue light and... so do perovskite solar cells!!! Not mention humidity and the cost to seal those cells in order to last more than 3 weeks. What about Lead in these cells? There are good ideas not meant to be in industrial production, nor on windows....

    • @HeyU308
      @HeyU308 Před 4 lety

      Paul Malnol chromium and cadmium with lead and other elements

  • @naotamf1588
    @naotamf1588 Před 6 lety

    where are the links to this content?

  • @robertoandres2203
    @robertoandres2203 Před 3 lety

    Saliva and breathing almost gave me a headache, but.. nice info, Im kinda worried because I had not heard about this and many years have passed since its applications were discovered... idk

  • @pauladams1814
    @pauladams1814 Před 7 lety

    Wow that's amazing!

  • @evajayme7746
    @evajayme7746 Před 5 lety

    Hello Sir II would like to be a Marketing Sales on this, At this moment I am Studying in Law

  • @incognitotorpedo42
    @incognitotorpedo42 Před 6 lety +1

    Bert, are you wearing Google Glass, or something like it, or are those just wide frames?

  • @richdobbs6595
    @richdobbs6595 Před 6 lety +12

    Completely ignores the elephant in the room: longevity. Solving longevity might occur quickly, or might take eons. Solving longevity might require compromises that wipe out all of the advantages. Great to explore another potential technology, but this might be another dead end. Don't start planning your new solar roof quite yet.

    • @hitreset0291
      @hitreset0291 Před 5 lety +2

      Wtf? Were you on about with longevity??? Only took 5 years for my old solar system (incl govt incentives) to achieve break even. My new upgraded system in 2018 (8× in size) will have a similar time (5.5 yrs) to achieve breakeven at 1/6 the govt incentives to original install. Solar is a big winner now!

    • @ThiagoOliveira-ex3vw
      @ThiagoOliveira-ex3vw Před 4 lety

      Yet, it is a great topic to add to the discussion about the future power plants and a way out of nuclear. Nuclear has its advantages, but if we find something with no potential to cause a big disaster, we should go for it.

  • @emersonharris142
    @emersonharris142 Před 7 lety +7

    Without proper energy storage then solar alone will never work.

    • @emersonharris142
      @emersonharris142 Před 6 lety

      Yes you are right, if you expend the definition of what I was saying about energy storage. So let me be more clear, unless we can storage enough energy in a quick release format (for example a chemical battery) so we can use that at night or when the wind is not blowing then the way of life as we know it will change. A change that a very large number of people on this planet will not accept by using fossil fuels in those times of need.
      There have been some advances in this by pumping water up mountains to store the potential energy to later be converted. Pressurized air is also a current option that is not chemical based. However, not every place has a large mountain or hill near by and the cost of making that many air pressure tanks is extreme, not to mention the hazards of keeping tanks like that in the first place. Costs that are far above the cost of using fossil fuels currently.
      Personally I would love it if we start looking at nuclear again. All the advances in computer technology and engineering we have is more than enough to make them "walk away safe" as it is called. Also what about next gen nuclear like breeder thorium reactors, the fuel we have for that alone in the earth's crust would last us 1000s of years alone or more. It also can work with our current power grid as it is today.

    • @richdobbs6595
      @richdobbs6595 Před 6 lety

      If the cost of solar cells dropped sufficiently, I think that current electrolysis technology would be be sufficient, provided that you could get installed cost low enough.

    • @rediornot811
      @rediornot811 Před 6 lety

      need to study up on battery storage for solar great advanced there too like the ones Tesla put in Austrailia and Porto Rico

    • @richdobbs6595
      @richdobbs6595 Před 6 lety

      rediornot - South Australia, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii are all small enough that they might be loss leaders for Tesla, taking advantage of Panasonic selling batteries below cost with the hope and prayer that the "learning curve" model plays out long enough for profitability to be reached. My guess is that the lithium-ion technology gets cheap enough for subsidized use in vehicles (expecially if targeted towards dense population centers), but not enough for wide spread application to grid storage. I suspect that redox flow batteries is the technology that allows deep PV penetration, but that it will require a decade of learning in ion exchange membranes. Wish I was going to grad school now, rather than thirty years ago!

    • @richdobbs6595
      @richdobbs6595 Před 6 lety

      rediornot - Looking at market capitalization, the entire inflated Tesla corporation is small enough that it could be a vanity project of a Panasonic executive. Until somebody starts manufacturing batteries open source without requiring a gigafactory, I don't believe the battery prices reflect actual costs, whether evidenced by occasional market purchases or analyst reports.

  • @plejaren1
    @plejaren1 Před 6 lety

    Seems the best solar type for dome homes- since it BENDS ;)

  • @cordeliablakeslee7964
    @cordeliablakeslee7964 Před 6 lety

    On the Avasva you can count on professional help with problems and technical support.

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover Před 4 lety

    Dark solar panels have the disadvantage of absorbing too much heat and warming the planet. But light or semi transparent solar cells won't have that problem. Something TED Talks has overlooked. I was always worried about solar cells being dark (for that reason) and I hope they do invent light colored ones. Also paint all roads and airports light, all parts of roofs etc. white and cover every roof as much as possible with the light colored olar cells.

  • @lifepiece9551
    @lifepiece9551 Před 4 lety +1

    Water! Agua! Al Ma'a! Weha! Metsi! (These all mean water)

  • @muckman5509
    @muckman5509 Před 5 lety

    WHAT IS THE POWER OUTPUT PER SQUARE METER?

  • @HeyU308
    @HeyU308 Před 4 lety +2

    30% of the time, it works all the time.

  • @key2010
    @key2010 Před 6 lety +2

    omg! Snowden is into chemistry too?

  • @Group51
    @Group51 Před 6 lety +1

    Onwards!

  • @CUBETechie
    @CUBETechie Před 4 lety

    I hope that the efficiency of Solar panels will achieve 40% or even more. But what is the highest possible efficiency of photovoltaic cells?
    But silicon and Carbon have similar properties in bindings and how carbon structures can change the solar power technology?

    • @CUBETechie
      @CUBETechie Před 4 lety

      What is the wavelength which are harvest in regular cells and which in pervoskite?

  • @DivineMisterAdVentures
    @DivineMisterAdVentures Před 6 lety +1

    Someone asked, "the sun is nuclear, why don't we just use nuclear?"
    BEST REASON is philosophic, based on first principles: Nuclear Energy is Anti-Small. We need distributed / democratic means of production -- just like information. And that's not even Marxist -- it's just humane. So this is great news about the 'maker' trend line - you think?

  • @Chimonger1
    @Chimonger1 Před 5 lety

    Perovskite family of materials. Tunable for color. But why hasn’t there been anything about it, since this talk? Only hints have leaked out slightly.

  • @rogerf7229
    @rogerf7229 Před 4 lety

    AWESOME stuff! 1 moment of humor When he mentions color, I look up, and see his shoulders are red and so is the top of his hair. Seriously This makes great sense. As a start, solar charges usb stuff , via a car battery. Good to have in practice! good to go, no trying to buy stuff during blackouts! Just keep ROLLING, with the SUN 🌞 Harbor Freight tools excellent DIY SOLAR about $200 multiple DC voltages for all flashlight battery using type of STUFF. be comfy.

  • @robertmclennan5310
    @robertmclennan5310 Před 6 lety

    Research & Development better known as Trial and error! Fix one thing and cause two more problems. But eventually everything gets worked out!

  • @briangoetz7570
    @briangoetz7570 Před 6 lety

    I think we shood make 100 amp power kit cheap 2 solar one charger and battery for cheap with a dolly to make it portable and then make a small one that you can carry on a backpack

  • @gregor-samsa
    @gregor-samsa Před 4 lety

    Where to buy...

  • @RedRider1600
    @RedRider1600 Před 4 lety

    Is this the same as Thin Film Solar?

  • @zach7147
    @zach7147 Před 6 lety

    This pretty rudimentary explanation. New Material unit cell structures and properties are being discovered everyday to increase efficiency and replace compounds. Perovskites ferroelectric properties are determined by the A and B site bond lengths. It is interesting that the meta stable compounds of ordinarily unstable and non ferroelectric compounds when in octahedral orientation show the most promising electric properties.

  • @jimmyrebel2010
    @jimmyrebel2010 Před 6 lety +5

    Exciting technology but this presenter is just so happy with himself that he really detracts from the message.

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 4 lety +1

      Video starts at 7:48
      Skip the BS
      TL:DR Tandem Solar cells with element wiggle room that can be sandwhiched ontop of each other in same solar cell unit area to double electricity generation AND can be made different colors or transparent to be used in windows too.

  • @rowlandh25
    @rowlandh25 Před 6 lety

    Magnificent talk.

  • @douglaswilliams8625
    @douglaswilliams8625 Před 6 lety

    a gravity harness (underwater wheel) uses no fuel and makes all the electricity you could ever use on demand and totally free

  • @JonitoFischer
    @JonitoFischer Před 5 lety

    Perovskite has lead, that could be a show stopper...

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie Před 4 lety +1

    Why do you think they built Pyramids >? QC

  • @PosiP
    @PosiP Před 5 lety

    this guy needs to talk to Jimmy Carter.

  • @robertostman2075
    @robertostman2075 Před 7 lety

    Perovskites solar cells??... aren't they way more affordable...??... by the way, how is selling Perovskite solar cells??

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 Před 6 lety +2

      i think they only last a couple months at this point. they used to last a few minutes so maybe they'll get it working someday for mass use

    • @nolan4339
      @nolan4339 Před 6 lety

      Yes, there is suppose to be degradation issues with them when they are exposed to air, which means they need a sealant layer, and even then it might still be an issue, but with a large variety of compositions available, there are likely some combinations that work better.
      And like all things - More research is required.

  • @joastark
    @joastark Před 5 lety

    LFTR, is renewable if geothermal is renewable.

  • @williamearl1662
    @williamearl1662 Před 5 lety +1

    Nearly 2 years since this talk, still have not heard about any products from this stuff. Must be a hoax.

  • @chrisschene8301
    @chrisschene8301 Před 6 lety +14

    Generating the power from solar cells is not the engineering problem: The problems that are hard to solve are
    (1) Intermittency
    (2) Storage
    You are generating power only when the sun is shining and hitting your solar cells. Unless you can store the power you will only have power when the sun is hitting your solar cells.
    Battery storage completely negates the savings you get from solar energy

    • @46ace
      @46ace Před 6 lety +11

      "Completely negates" is too strong a term here. "Storage" IS an issue but not an insurmountable one: Battery technology is also advancing daily.

    • @alexandren.9346
      @alexandren.9346 Před 6 lety +1

      Chris Schene I have to agree with Magnus. There ARE some ways to save solar energy for a shorter term. For example by powering chemical reactions and later reversing them to get your energy back. And as the technology advances, we can be optimistic that we'll also find ways for long term saving the energy, too.

    • @chrisschene8301
      @chrisschene8301 Před 6 lety

      In the US we have about 6 to 8 times wind power production, in terms of KWH, than we do solar power production between
      My understanding is that the current lithium storage battery cost is $200-$350 US per KW . At that cost level, an 85 KW car battery will cost between US 22,000-29,000 just to manufacture. This information is a little old so there may be newer figures. I have also done some research on the Tesla car batteries and they are looking a max charge-recharge cycles of 1000-3000, very dependent on how badly the batter is worked.
      I like wind power because most of the time there is wind someplace 24 hours a day. The US has 45,000 MW of wind electricity generation. What about balancing this out with some tidal and ocean temperature differential power generation AND solar. I do like the idea of the electric cars balancing the grid but keep in mind you are adding more battery cycles.

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib Před 6 lety +1

      Check your facts and figures, Chris, they are inaccurate, especially for the low-cost leader, Tesla. In light of the pricing that was just announced for the Semi trucks, it's obvious that by 2019 when the Semi is scheduled to go into production, Tesla will be able to manufacture cells for significantly less than $100/kWh, say $85/kWh. Add in some costs for packaging into battery packs and they are probably looking at a cost of $125-$150/kWh, or about half of your estimate.

    • @chrisschene8301
      @chrisschene8301 Před 6 lety

      This sounds like an advertisement for Tesla. Those figures are Tesla comments that I have also seen in the media: Tesla marketing statements and projections do not qualify as "proof" of anything.
      This is Tesla marketing speaking
      "Check your facts and figures, Chris, they are inaccurate, especially for the low-cost leader, Tesla"

  • @cavendish009
    @cavendish009 Před 3 lety

    The trouble is that bird food - moths flies etc. are attracted to light and heat which then kills them. They are bird food and this will have a major impact on the world population of birds.

  • @plejaren1
    @plejaren1 Před 6 lety

    I read that perovskite doesn't last long and is weak. Just repeating here what I heard. I hope not- sounds good.

  • @ianmacdonald6350
    @ianmacdonald6350 Před 6 lety

    Two problems: The planet isn't transparent, and the sky has clouds.
    Clouds are actually the more serious problem, because they can persist for much longer than night time.

  • @oinkbastudios3150
    @oinkbastudios3150 Před 6 lety +1

    So if I understand your initial analogy correctly Bert.. are you saying that if Spain were to allow everyone to have solar panels on every property.. SPAIN could potentially POWER THE WORLD! And become a RICH country! With no more DEBT, POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT, plenty of CAKE etc.. Only thing is.. Spain had a "SUN TAX" in place so no one has been able to have solar for many years! They made it unviable for their people.. how's that for insanity, greed and corruption! The EU stops at the Pyraneese!

  • @gphilipc2031
    @gphilipc2031 Před 6 lety +2

    The Sun...try to live without it.

  • @hewdelfewijfe
    @hewdelfewijfe Před 2 lety

    Solar cells could be free and they still wouldn't be cheap enough because of the intermittency, lack of grid inertia and frequency control services, and lack of blackstart capability, and the associated huge costs for the extra transmission lines compared to traditional power plants.

  • @duggydugg3937
    @duggydugg3937 Před 5 lety +1

    what about battery improvements ? what about carbon foam battery tech ?

  • @johnmartin3517
    @johnmartin3517 Před 3 lety

    thorium!

  • @gerardmelvin8670
    @gerardmelvin8670 Před 7 lety +1

    Hi Bert . Thanks for sharing a great talk .This is a game changer it's a shame Luke is so dippy .He should go a way and watch Daffy Duck what a fool. Your post Luke was sad to see .This is so important and exciting for every person on the planet .Come on say sorry.

  • @projectfortatjana
    @projectfortatjana Před 7 lety +1

    and are you aware that Halide Perovskites are based on heavy metals, I mean, SILICON is everywhere and not toxic, you think someone will risk his life wearing something that has only 20% of efficiency. When you achieve 40, let me think about perovskite.

    • @seveNGus
      @seveNGus Před 7 lety +2

      From what he said one can use a vast variety of materials for perovskite. The efficiency is ramping up and is already comparable to many silicon cells. AFAIK the main problem is that they still can't make it last as long (30 years for silicon cells). Also, even though silicon cells are non-toxic, the way they are manufactured does release some toxic materials.

    • @projectfortatjana
      @projectfortatjana Před 7 lety

      @seveNGus are you aware that perovskite contains toxic in them?

    • @seveNGus
      @seveNGus Před 7 lety +2

      I thought that was clear from the beginning, which is why I mentioned that you may use different materials. Also, toxicity is something related to concentration. Pretty much anything can be toxic if the concentration is above a given threshold. It could be that this technology proves to be a bad choice, but we should still investigate anyways.

  • @superdoubt
    @superdoubt Před 6 lety +6

    If it sounds too good to be true it probably is...

    • @richdobbs6595
      @richdobbs6595 Před 6 lety +3

      Apparently the problem is longevity. You can make these things easily, but they only last for less than a month. The efforts to increase the lifetime make them increasingly hard to make. It's not clear if they will ever have the lifetime of silicon based cells, or if there an intermediate lifetime that would be economically viable. Time will tell.

  • @cognihensionchannel-doctorSSS

    With China committed to economies of scale commercialization is not going to look like that graph. Science versus technopolscopics and SMSA distribution matter more than efficiency of surface area.

  • @PETERJOHN101
    @PETERJOHN101 Před 6 lety +2

    He didn't address the attribute of this material to degrade in a matter of days, if not hours. To my knowledge, this remains a problem.

  • @zodiacfml
    @zodiacfml Před 7 lety +1

    nice but how much is it, is china making it? :)

  • @zachcrawford5
    @zachcrawford5 Před 6 lety +1

    Wow androids DO exist. I just watched one talk about solar for 16 minutes.

  • @arnisls1462
    @arnisls1462 Před 3 lety

    did you know that nuclear energy is most dense and cost effective industry ??? and did you know that recycling photovoltaic will be a great problem for the future ???

  • @dragmit
    @dragmit Před 5 lety +2

    We have right at our fingertips the answer to the problem that makes all these renewable gyrations pale in comparison. Hydro generation plants operate at a very low efficiency. Less then 16%. Redesign your bad machines and your hydro power will jump by 5 times.

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Před 5 lety

      Wow, you should become a scientist and take over the energy department. They all say this can't happen for at least a hundred years, and possibly never.
      The future of energy will involve just about every type of energy we can think of, but it will eventually be nuclear. We are already starting to build reactors that use no dangerous element, that can't melt down, that generate no dangerous waste, and that can generate power forever.

    • @dragmit
      @dragmit Před 5 lety +1

      @@jamesaritchie1 You are a great salesman but I have no interest in your commission status. And exactly how much do you know about my research? Nothing I expect.

    • @claudeusgothicus6453
      @claudeusgothicus6453 Před 5 lety

      @@jamesaritchie1 - really none at all huh? really? specifically what are you referring to? if you're alluding to thorium over uranium or even molten salt reactors I can't agree.. although each one has been an improvement upon the other, none of them fit my definition of clean energy.. especially when you consider protactinium separations provide a pathway for obtaining highly attractive weapons-grade uranium 233 from thorium fuel cycles.. oh wait.. my bad.. you did say does not use a dangerous element..
      why didn't you simply say nuclear fusion considering there are not multiple forms to pick from? how hard would that have been? haven't you figured out yet that when you simply say nuclear energy without specifically defining the one type of nuclear energy that stands alone from all the others - people automatically think of the only examples in the production capacity that they've known.. and absolutely detest the use of?

  • @willdehne1
    @willdehne1 Před 5 lety +4

    TEDx Talks are no assurance of value for time spend watching. Like this one. You get a one sided sales talk. If the "Perovskite" are toxic or do not last it should be mentioned with the same volume as promoting it. Just IMHO. See the recent TEDx Talk of solar panel waste in Australia.

    • @joecornelius4334
      @joecornelius4334 Před 4 lety

      Grind your axe somewhere else.
      There are technical hurdles to bringing perovskite solar panels to market, to be sure, but your disingenuous comment about waste --ignoring the waste generated by other energy sources and the decades the industry spent not addressing them-- is just patently dishonest.
      Carbon Monoxide, Carbon Dioxide, Sulfur, VOCs, Nitrogen Oxides, acid rain, coal ash, radioactive waste, are just a few of the byproducts of current energy sources --WHEN THEY'RE USED.
      Silicon- based solar panels use many of the same processes used to make chips for PCs, like the one you used to type your comment, the difference being that they aren't releasing mounds of toxins into the environment as they generate energy.

  • @TIB1973
    @TIB1973 Před 5 lety +4

    Solar and wind is a nice feel good story but if we were really smart we would accept Nuclear energy as the best option....for now.

    • @richhenry8004
      @richhenry8004 Před 5 lety

      Absolutely, solar takes orders of magnitude more space to produce the same energy, and it's highly variable, requiring the use of nat gas to fill the gaps --- solar is not a great answer.

  • @angelolusabio1465
    @angelolusabio1465 Před 6 lety +1

    What a sound? Do you have candy in your mouth?

    • @claudeusgothicus6453
      @claudeusgothicus6453 Před 5 lety

      @@JS-mh7sf - that may be true, but I don't care to find out.. not only this speaker's delivery, but the entire sales pitch is absolutely one of the worst I've ever been subjected to..

  • @stuuay5066
    @stuuay5066 Před 3 lety

    This was a sales pitch.

  • @dragchain4568
    @dragchain4568 Před 3 lety

    Well, here we are 3 years later and solar is failing miserably, not to mention, solar still doesn’t work at night.

  • @WadcaWymiaru
    @WadcaWymiaru Před 6 lety +4

    The source of light is nuclear power. Why not use this power?

    • @46ace
      @46ace Před 6 lety +2

      Current technology(fission) creates long lived and highly toxic wastes. When (not "IF") fusion reactors come online Nuclear becomes a perfect solution. Liquid SALT reactors have many safety features; and should be pursued also; But photo voltaics are a natural, clean, solution,and becoming ever more economic. We are in for good things if we can keep from killing each other.

    • @solarstacks
      @solarstacks Před 6 lety +3

      Nuclear just boils water. We already have a water crisis.
      Nuclear is also deadly.
      Nuclear cost more than any power ever created.
      The Uranium is deadly ,hard to mine and the US gets 90% of it from Russia. No thanks.

    • @DivineMisterAdVentures
      @DivineMisterAdVentures Před 6 lety

      BEST REASON is philosophic, based on first principles: Nuclear Energy is Anti-Small. We need distributed / democratic means of production -- just like information. And that's not even Marxist -- it's just humaine.

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib Před 6 lety +2

      Best reason is to keep nuclear waste and fissionable material out of the hands of terrorists and rogue nations. There's also Murphy's law at work. Anything that a human can make go wrong will go wrong. Nuclear energy is inherently dangerous and the consequences are catastrophic and unacceptable..

    • @de0509
      @de0509 Před 6 lety +1

      NIMBY syndrome. Which is quite a logical attitude to life for obvious reasons. Sometimes a bit of selfishness is needed. Its not that weird of an idea to have job of nuclear power outsourced to the sun

  • @musikSkool
    @musikSkool Před 6 lety

    Solar powered duct tape that has a LED ever few inches. Free lighting.

    • @weeral1
      @weeral1 Před 6 lety

      without a battery you would only have light while in the sun... just sayin

    • @musikSkool
      @musikSkool Před 6 lety

      I thought that was implied. I guess I have to explain how everything works, there are a lot of very young people here on CZcams.

  • @stevenikitas8170
    @stevenikitas8170 Před 3 lety

    Actually the talk about the advantages of 'decentralization' of solar is completely backwards. By being "decentralized", solar energy contravenes the most basic law called Economies of Scale. It means that big things are efficient and little things are inefficient. So a nuclear reactor is vastly more efficient than the same amount of energy generated in millions of solar panels. That is why we shop at supermarkets and not at corner conveniences stores.

  • @booboo8577
    @booboo8577 Před 3 lety

    Thorium reactors beats any of this for the environment.

  • @shadowdance4666
    @shadowdance4666 Před 5 lety

    Where’s my flying car

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover Před 4 lety

      You can't even buy a flying car for several mill, but they sell cars that don't leave the ground for that. Flying cars will work with jet engines but small jet engines are around and only cost like 100 grand each (for the hobby ones). Even if you need ten jet engines it's still only a mill for them. It would be enough to lift 2 up (easily) with a lightweight car specially made. There are cars for sale for over 3 mill some "worth" nealy 10 mill (inflated "value") and people actually buy them. It doesn't make any sense that they don't even sell one single flying car for several mill. The only thing I can think of is development costs against sales. And another factor why they aren't around, we have yet to find someone with the access to the money, combined with the passion! We need just one rich fellow with the passion. We need someone with both these characteristics. We find lots of (one or the other) but none with both, yet. That is the problem. Elon Musk with his rockets is a prime example of what I'm talking about (but with rockets instead of flying cars).

  • @captainprototype187
    @captainprototype187 Před 4 lety

    What, Edward Snowden is into solar Research? WTF!

  • @benburton3496
    @benburton3496 Před 5 lety

    What ya gunna do in the dark?

  • @Verrisin
    @Verrisin Před 6 lety

    Too bad it disintegrates in a few years XD
    - No, I'm sure they will figure it out, but it's still not ready...

  • @1vantheterr1ble47
    @1vantheterr1ble47 Před 5 lety

    NEVER fasten both buttons on your jacket! Top button only. Geeks! - brains but no style.

  • @santiagocondemorales5567
    @santiagocondemorales5567 Před 7 lety +2

    silicon is the second most abundant material in the crust of the earth after oxygen, I don't think this is the answer

  • @markcampbell7577
    @markcampbell7577 Před 3 lety

    Edison generators and dynamos are unlimited electric power. Solar power uses plastic manufacture pollution to produce the photo electric element of the solar panel. We can use less to toxic material as the the photo electric element of the panel. Erythrosorbate can more be used as the photo electric element. A less toxic battery can be used for storage. Contrary to what is believed the metal acid battery is environmentally safe and reliable battery. The lithium and charcoal batteries are unnecessarily toxic and sensitive to microwaves. The nickel copper stainless steel battery with sulphuric acid battery is infinitely rechargeable and does not need a recharge schedule. A survivable industry for solar industry would eliminate plastic charcoal and lithium to become a survivable industry.

  • @whimpypatrol5503
    @whimpypatrol5503 Před 5 lety +1

    College professors with american ascents were pedaling similar energy technologies 49 years ago when I was studying about the makeup of the Soviet Union government at UNM in 1969. Like anything, nothing is new under the sun, not even from the mouth of a Russian sounding physicist. Will it ever become a practical technology? I'd sooner expect a simultaneous cataclysm of war, famine, drought, nuclear fallout, epidemics, economic collapse and natural disaster than the rosy picture of a future full of clean, sufficient energy that conceited university faculties paint. Even if the technology does work, forget other environmental issues compounding because the moral disposition of the western peoples has become so polluted since Victorian times that it is past the tipping point.