Broke Down CASE Belt Repair
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- The Case 580C Backhoe broke down at a neighbors house. To repair the belt it requires removing fluid and the hydraulic pump. I ended up destroying the radiator and get a used one at the scrapyard.
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The trick when changing a belt that is that hard to get to is to cable tie a second belt in past the pump so your next change is easy
Missed a perfect chance to pressure wash the front and the radiator :) Keep up the good work, its always a joy to see these old work horses come back to life.
Big salute to the distinguished club of men who own and work on their CASE BACKHOES and are NOT men of leisure!!!! We are exclusively unique!!!!
I'm intrigued by your videos. Believeit or not I watched 1-6 instead of the Super Bowl!!
im glad you like them that encouraging
Yep; Solder and a propane torch. The Oxy/acetylene torch is way too hot for solder work. But hey, you never know until you try!
i used a soldering iron it needed a better radiator anyway
..find it all at the scrap yard..lol...good repair and vid..
i got lucky the radiator was pretty close to the same
I’ve watched the entire series from overgrown weeds to this. All I have to say is, “Damn Boy!” You’ve worked the hell out of this thing! I guess plan B was what you worked out to be, right? It would have been nice to just put a battery and some fuel in and drive her on home. But... At least you have some mechanical knowledge and can fix just about anything that gets thrown at you! Congratulations on the finished product!! I guess sometime in the near future we’ll be seeing a new paint job on this? My fervent hope is that she’ll be making money for you after all this work. Great job in restoring the old girl!!!!
maybe new paint
I have those grip-link belts that change in a minute
Do those last tho? They seem brittle even when new. Definitely in a pinch!
They don’t last. I’ve been through 2 I’m a year and I don’t run my machine much. They are only good to get you out of a pinch. Emergency use.
I know you put a lot of fresh hydraulic oil in the system so I am very surprised how "milky" that oil still is !
Hey mate. Just did my belt change while I had the radiator off to service the fuel pump. FYI you should be able to slide back the pump enough to get the belt in without having to remove the 2 hydraulic hoses.
Yes you can kinds pain in the ass to do alone but just did it on my 580D today.
"Is that gonna work? Probably not" lol. Sounds like me and my projects.
so far it has held up
That cowling only has 2 bolts on one side and one on the other, that would concern me! Lots of work for a belt, dang things are sometimes tough to work on! Good job! Nice vid!
Having to pull the pump out to replace the belt is a huge pain in the ass! I appreciate your repair style! It's right up my alley! :-D
On my 580d 1985. I should be able to pull that shaft out just barely to slip belt through. Well that's the plan anyway.
Sounds like your next repair could be injectors and filters ?. Lots of missing I own a couple and one needed it asap and sounded just like that,made a great difference in running and starting and fuel usage : ) Thank you for sharing.
i bought 4 injectors for $33 on ebay and thought i was getting a deal, but after i installed them i had to put the old ones back in.
@@mikekisch5563 Yeah you have to watch out with parts. So far I have been lucky . When I get time I will make up a list of people I deal with on my Massey and John deere. You can also clean your old one there are lots of videos on youtube that will help you. All my best.
I have had some luck with those link belts you can take apart and put back together.
There are linking belts that can be installed without removing everything. Fenner makes them or Harbor Freight has Accu-Link in 5 foot lengths.
It has been my experience with milky oil from water as long as the oil is dirt free a few hours of hard work to get the oil up to operating temperature the water will burn off and the oil will look as it should this will benefit the engine too, granted injector work will help a lot also to get your engine running better.
Good ideas!
Just a novice question, if I may, what is the operation temperature range of a hydraulic system found on machinery like we see here?
Thanks. Best Holiday wishes and Good Health to you and your Family!
Roy
Buffalo, NY
Mike what in the world is the matter with the injectors? Or is it gas? It is possible you could have soldered up the old one. Did you get your friend fixed with the work he needed?
I havent been back over there to clean up the mess. I did buy a new radiator. the old on just kept springing leaks. i probably tried to fix it 2 or three times before i gave up. I think the poor running is compression issue, so i havent fixed it yet.
nice looking civic interior especially being over 15 years old. I have the same for my gas getter lol . I try to drive it as much as possible and leave the truck at home
Right on!
Good old water in the oil deal. Good fix too.
i am glad for the comment
Keep up the great work Mike..
im glad for the comment
G'day Mike ,,
Back at it again ,, you've been pretty lucky so far being able to do all the work yourself . Now I won't make any jokes about one of your balls falling out under the tractor ,, But I did wonder what spare parts might have been on the machine in the scrap yard,,,perhaps another good injector or
injection pump ,,or other valuable spares that would fit your machine . Oh, radiators are sweated together with solider, if your going to repair the spare .
Thanks for another great video ,,really love the series so far .
Best Wishes
From
Down Under
if you turn your anti-freeze jugs on their side and pour they wont gurgle and splash everywhere.
When good things go bad, I never understood the theory behind building something that takes tearing down half the machine to replace a belt. I have used those lace belts in cases like this where you take a master link and snap it together and they do work good cause you can take out or add to the length of the belt. Lots easier than taking all that rigging loose but that would take all the fun out of it wouldn't it
i thought about using those, i was going to address the radiator anyway thats why i pulled it out. i think if i had to replace again i would just need to pull the pump out or like you said use one of those link belts
Thanks brother, I needed to see this
Hi i have a case 580c backhoe same as this .can anyone tell me what temp thermostat it would have its missing .I'm living in a hot part of Australia if that makes a difference. Thanks
thermostat should be completely open at 202 F
thats from the manual
Rusty old pulleys eat belts (I learned this on our JD 216). When resurecting machinery, an abrasive nylon wheel like Harbor Freight sells can clean them up before they satisfy their belt appetite.
good to know
Is there a way to turn the crank by hand after taking off that hydraulic pump? As in, using a breaker bar to bar the engine over?
Mike that engine is rough. Sounds like a fuel problem to me.
i agree it needs rings. i am getting fuel in the oil
@@mikekisch5563 I've worked on a few of them and if your getting fuel in the oil your injector pump is going to need seals. I had heard it in several videos and thought it might just have some air still in the system causing it to run so rough. But if its leaking into the oil the seals are shot. Been there done that.
@@charlescastle5566 ok good to know i was thinking it would need rings, but i would prefer the injector pump seals.
@@mikekisch5563 I agree with Mr Castle, Plus the lift pumps will do that, best to get kits for both or a kit for the injector pump and buy a new lift pump. If it were the rings you should have a great deal of blow by there should be a tube ether metal or a hose that drops from the engine .
That engine sounds rough, definitely not running on all cylinders😫
i agree
radiators are copper and are soldered and the thing needs to be cleaned before trying to repair it. dirt and oil will not weld.
You know, a new radiator is only $250 on eBay. I would have put in a new radiator and water pump too. If mine goes out, I'm going to put everything in new, along with new hoses. I don't want to have to tear it apart again!
I ended up putting a new one on as well
You work like a grease monkey - and you are a likable dude
First thing you do when reviving old machinery, is to see if engine turns, if you are lucky cranks, more lucky rolls...
then you clean the monster from head to tail, taking apart anything that is in the way
then get the radiator revamped, flushed etc, new fluids.
when you take hydraulics apart, you first loosen all the fittings, all bolts, then finish taking apart, ...
You tightened the crap outta the right bolt on the pump, then did the left... man you tighten things a bit at a time evenly... until fully tight!
you can guess the rest ...
shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! clean the phckng radiator be fore you go soldering/braising on it and know what metal to use! LOL
O! get yourself a pickUptrUck... that bottle in the wife's car has her cringe.
u are one telanted dude enjoyed the vids
Muratic acid helps solder stick .
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Is the engine missing?
yes it needs some work for sure
All that work just for a belt???
its hard to get too. hopefully the belt i put on will last a while.
Your tractor was a putting green in its' last life?? LOL or a backyard garden?
Sounds rough as a cobb......
The old owner really abused that machine.
If you start having trouble with the rad hose blowing off, the DIY turbo guys have been making bead rolling pliers that might work for you for years. Here is one example: czcams.com/video/JVDUM2ZxoW0/video.html
LMFAO
wow they don't make it easy to change eh...
What a ignorant mechanic using a oxyacetylene torch to repair soldered radiator