THE ANTI-LORAX CONSPIRACY

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  • čas přidán 26. 05. 2024
  • The Lorax is an interesting movie because it has many secret little hidden details. In the past, I had a "conspiracy theory" that the Once-Ler was Ted’s Grandfather because of these clues. Today, I present my ultimate findings in an even bigger theory. I know O’Hare’s backstory, I know the Lorax’s TRUE agenda, I know where Grammy Norma is in the flashbacks, and yes… I finally know who Ted’s FATHER is.
    I’ve edited this one to the hilt. It’s fast-paced and unreal, so there are chapters below. Enjoy.
    #TheLorax #LoraxTheory #TheLoraxTheory #LoraxConspiracy #Theory
    VIDEO CHAPTERS:
    0:00 - Everything This Solves
    1:43 - Grammy Norma in the Flashbacks
    3:50 - O’Hare is Ted’s Dad
    12:23 - The Anti-Lorax Agenda
    Patreon: / theorizer
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    Music is from Epidemic Sound and the CZcams Audio Library. I do not own The Lorax, but am allowed to use footage of it and have full rights to this video under fair use law. Images mostly from Google.
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  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain9751 Před 22 dny +5141

    They tried to copyright this. It's canon.

    • @compassrose1466
      @compassrose1466 Před 22 dny +238

      The minions shaking in their coveralls 😧

    • @trixxart777
      @trixxart777 Před 22 dny +49

      Dam comcast

    • @GoonLune
      @GoonLune Před 21 dnem +44

      It could just be bc there's footage of the movie

    • @jayjayare
      @jayjayare Před 21 dnem +130

      @@GoonLune you must be fun at parties

    • @NoNameJester
      @NoNameJester Před 21 dnem +65

      ​@@jayjayarehe probably doesn't get invited to em

  • @abbythehuman8213
    @abbythehuman8213 Před 22 dny +3076

    The Theorizer could convince me of anything at this point.

    • @Youtubewatcher12345th
      @Youtubewatcher12345th Před 22 dny +71

      Hey it’s the theorizers alt account here mort will make you immortal if you give me 400000000 dollars

    • @thatdumbass9856
      @thatdumbass9856 Před 22 dny

      ​@CZcamswatcher12345th what's a nickel get me?

    • @CaramelCorige
      @CaramelCorige Před 22 dny +13

      Lol

    • @RiskofTrains
      @RiskofTrains Před 22 dny +1

      Hey it’s the theorizers alt wire me 200000 dollars stuck in Nigeria

    • @simoboi695
      @simoboi695 Před 22 dny +37

      he could convince me white is actually black at this point tbh

  • @debater452
    @debater452 Před 22 dny +1476

    Lorax was so anti trees he gave his aproval to multiple enviromentally harming products in the Lorax marketing campaing

  • @CeaselessEntertainment8468
    @CeaselessEntertainment8468 Před 22 dny +2353

    Lorax: I am the Lorax! i hate speaking for these trees, Please chop them down before I indulge in stress eating cheese

    • @Sheenesteves-gr7lk
      @Sheenesteves-gr7lk Před 22 dny +37

      me core

    • @dwightdeisenhower53
      @dwightdeisenhower53 Před 22 dny

      Reminds me of a little thing I said when some guy said "Dot on the Spot" and I thought it sounded like the Cat in the Hat going to the dermatologist:
      Cat in The Hat, I'll keep this secret, just within these walls,
      But your zits are so plentiful, they go down to your b-

    • @user-that-buggs.
      @user-that-buggs. Před 22 dny

      @@Sheenesteves-gr7lk me core

    • @billybobjoe-gv7jx
      @billybobjoe-gv7jx Před 22 dny

      🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌
      CHEEZ

    • @alexv3372
      @alexv3372 Před 22 dny +32

      I am the Lorax
      I speak for my knees

  • @L.U.C.I.F.E.R-
    @L.U.C.I.F.E.R- Před 22 dny +1612

    If The Lorax is anti-Trees does this open the possibility to Willy Wonka secretly hating chocolate and candy?

    • @ked49
      @ked49 Před 22 dny +187

      He is, he makes dangerous candies to get people to not buy products from him or his competitors who he killed.

    • @Stryker-bp1tw
      @Stryker-bp1tw Před 22 dny +8

      Yes

    • @Lutefisk445
      @Lutefisk445 Před 22 dny

      The Lorax isn't anti-tree. There was just nothing left for him to do but let the people find out for themselves what happens when you chop down all the trees.

    • @jesterdays
      @jesterdays Před 22 dny +54

      That's why he ruined the lives of those children

    • @legendofrayquazagaming5125
      @legendofrayquazagaming5125 Před 22 dny +5

      Not really

  • @TheWaffleEdits
    @TheWaffleEdits Před 22 dny +603

    The Theorizer is what MatPat would’ve become if he continued to do FNAF theories and truly went insane
    Thing is, The Theorizer makes it make sense and true, which is horrifying

    • @jang-xo6ye
      @jang-xo6ye Před 22 dny +66

      No the therorizer is the version of matpat that manages to actually convince people he's insane. I'm still not fully convinced... mostly because he makes sense... most of the time

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Před 22 dny +16

      @@jang-xo6ye i think its not insanity, but just seeing the truth about everything .

    • @myyoutubeaccountgotsuspend8666
      @myyoutubeaccountgotsuspend8666 Před 21 dnem +25

      The Theorizer is the ascended MatPat from the distant future

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Před 21 dnem +4

      #reallifetheory

    • @gabriellockwood2780
      @gabriellockwood2780 Před 15 dny +3

      Matpat’s theories are awful-AND mostly wrong.
      If you knew ANYTHING about FNaF, you’d KNOW MatPat went off the rails after Scott said he was right-ONCE with MatPat’s FNaF 2 theory back in 2014~15. 🤦‍♂️

  • @Lutefisk445
    @Lutefisk445 Před 22 dny +465

    I'm starting to think yall missed the message of "fuck around and find out" that the lorax was actually trying to give. He's not the villain, just out of options

    • @YellowScar2014
      @YellowScar2014 Před 22 dny +74

      Exactly what I was thinking.
      Edit; And funny enough, it reminds me of the Old Testament's basic plot. God tells humanity not to do something, they do it anyways... and instead of stopping them, God just lets humanity "fuck around and find out" time and time again... with some ultimate salvation promised in the end, of course.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog Před 21 dnem +23

      UNLESS The Lorax is the Oncellers Father as well. A cursed Family Tree DOOMED to repeat the same mistakes over and over. This makes the Lorax a True Evil.

    • @Lutefisk445
      @Lutefisk445 Před 21 dnem +5

      @@snintendog except the Lorax and the Onceler's father are not the same. I mean it would be funny if that were the case, but I don't think it is so

    • @toolittletoolate
      @toolittletoolate Před 18 dny +1

      It's called Tough Love. This is what it actually looks like. No one involved are happy and it sucks for everyone but it's how you learn the important lessons so you don't do it again.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před 18 dny +5

      Guys…you’re not meant to take theories too seriously as it’s just for fun 😅 you’re probably right but there’s no need to be so smug and unfun about it😬

  • @elliot-sowdon
    @elliot-sowdon Před 22 dny +667

    Ted’s mom calling herself Mrs Wiggins despite having no husband would seem to imply she’s a widow. It’s possible that she divorced O’Hare, remarried and then her second husband died, all while Ted was very young. If Bernice suspects O’Hare had her second husband killed, then her fear of him makes a lot of sense. It would also make sense why she doesn’t seem to have any interest in finding a partner during the film. Husband #2 may have spoken out against O’Hare, or simply made him jealous, but either way he’s gone and no one is eager to bring him up.

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 22 dny +206

      I would assume, but it’s confusing why she kept her maiden name if she still wants to honour a dead husband with the “Mrs” title and we see no sign of an honoured husband

    • @elliot-sowdon
      @elliot-sowdon Před 22 dny +89

      @@TheTheorizer
      Maybe he took her name? Or she didn’t want to change her name after changing it to O’Hare and then right back to Wiggins It’s also possible the norms of martial name changing are different in world of the movie, as all of the Onceler’s family members are also Oncelers regardless of gender.
      The lack of pictures of the late husband could also be to avoid Ted asking questions about him and finding out the truth.

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs Před 22 dny +14

      @@TheTheorizer i assumed he lived far away (i assume there are more trees just not truffula trees elsewhere) and wouldn't let her divorce him but she wasn't to mad about it as he still liked disco.(i have no idea how devorce works)

  • @debater452
    @debater452 Před 22 dny +528

    So Ted's father in a way is a tree just like we joked in an earlier community post

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 22 dny +27

      No, Ted's dad is O'Hare, that got his idea & also possibly a way to produce air thx to the Lorax

    • @debater452
      @debater452 Před 22 dny +20

      @@gonhunter3994 Lorax is O'hair

    • @olasdorosdiliusimilius2174
      @olasdorosdiliusimilius2174 Před 22 dny +22

      ​@@debater452 O'Hare is actually Jesus and The Lorax is the father and holy spirit.

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs Před 22 dny +10

      @@olasdorosdiliusimilius2174 so O´Hare is f-Fully human even subject to *bites lip* human desires?

    • @hauntedhoody2976
      @hauntedhoody2976 Před 21 dnem +10

      @@wind_king-lh8zsmy man thats the subject of several heresies, watch your steps

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 22 dny +174

    I feel like I’m watching something the government doesn’t want me to whenever I watch these videos

    • @nightwatch3889
      @nightwatch3889 Před 22 dny +11

      That is the PERFECT way to describe the sheer madness of The Theorizer

    • @alexv3372
      @alexv3372 Před 22 dny +6

      Like a secret society channel

    • @alexv3372
      @alexv3372 Před 22 dny +6

      Hell yeah Theorizer secret fan club
      High five 🖐️

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 22 dny +330

    To add to your theory, it now makes sense why the Once-Ler can live in his big house outside of town while still surviving, O’Hare’s been secretly supplying him air, it also explained why The Once-Ler didn’t just immediately plant the seed, because he had been working with O’Hare, he also probably wasn’t allowed back in town and he couldn’t have planted the seed where he lives, it also makes the Oncer-Ler look less stupid because no matter what, the trees would’ve died, The Lorax was controlling him the whole time, it also explained how no one died due to lack of air, if everyone was dead there’d be no lesson to teach, The Lorax made sure to keep them all alive
    It’s incredible how this theory explains basically every plot hole in the movie

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 Před 22 dny +5

      The Lorax is the villan

    • @Sharkgobrrrr
      @Sharkgobrrrr Před 22 dny +19

      Something I'm wondering: Could Thneedville be related to the town from the Cat in the Hat? Both are absurd, contain question logic and house design, among other things.

    • @YellowScar2014
      @YellowScar2014 Před 22 dny +37

      @@the_expidition427 Is he though? If he simply fixed up the forest, the people in the story would've learned nothing and get reduced to square one... but the route he instead took in the movie, according to the video, directly led to not only the forest getting restored eventually but the people *learning* not to destroy it.
      I mean, sometimes it's better to let an idiot learn the hard way via malicious compliance then to fix their mistake for them and let it repeat, after all.

    • @GideonHannsz-ht3qm
      @GideonHannsz-ht3qm Před 22 dny +27

      @@Sharkgobrrrr you know the story of horton hears a who and the grinch where they all live on different specs? I bet all of the doctor suess stories take place on some spec multiverse of something along those lines

    • @deleetiusproductions3497
      @deleetiusproductions3497 Před 14 dny +1

      wow

  • @kingjj5827
    @kingjj5827 Před 22 dny +392

    If the Lorax is a 385000000 year old being that regulates a universe, he may be a different breed of Katie. All Dr. Seuss creatures could be different species of Katie.

    • @elliot-sowdon
      @elliot-sowdon Před 22 dny +59

      The Truffula trees do look very similar to Katie’s flowers….

    • @potato7ate913
      @potato7ate913 Před 22 dny +48

      I think the 385 million years ago thing was a reference to the Carboniferous era which is when trees became widespread on Earth. The Lorax is as old as the trees themselves.

    • @deylanthegreat779
      @deylanthegreat779 Před 22 dny +3

      What is this Katie?

    • @hewziey1869
      @hewziey1869 Před 22 dny

      ​@@deylanthegreat779czcams.com/video/pmJnmVFoY74/video.htmlsi=CN-RfT3uArI8IcFZ

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Před 22 dny +5

      Who is katie?

  • @nulllex0099
    @nulllex0099 Před 22 dny +441

    I think the most hilarious part of this all to me is that the writers might have really added some nasty divorce subtext without much thought, but the insane way you connect everything to craft a narrative that explodes in the wildest ways.
    Thank goodness you dedicate this power to make fictional entertainment based on fiction already. I dread to think what harm you could cause with real conspiracies XD

  • @JaredittonGaming
    @JaredittonGaming Před 22 dny +191

    Universal copyrighted the original video, this making EVERYTHING in this video CANON

  • @TH353US
    @TH353US Před 22 dny +118

    The Lorax let it happen. The Lorax let it grow. The song isn't talking about the tree, it's talking about the lesson that needed to be learned. Let the lesson grow.

  • @HamSandwich822
    @HamSandwich822 Před 22 dny +422

    HONEY WAKE UP THEORIZER UPLOADED

  • @diminie_chimket
    @diminie_chimket Před 22 dny +55

    The fact that this video was copyright striked by the company, most likely attempting to _silence_ him, says much more about its canonicity 👀

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch3889 Před 22 dny +102

    I seriously cannot believe that all these years later you are still uncovering mind-boggling reality-shifting hidden truths behind the freaking animated Lorax movie from 2012

    • @swausgebouwen143
      @swausgebouwen143 Před 22 dny +2

      Can't believe it was released as early as 2012 it feels more like a 2016 film to me

    • @alexv3372
      @alexv3372 Před 22 dny +9

      I know it’s pretty crazy
      You know if they added the divorce subtext it would make it more interesting

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Před 22 dny +142

    1:42 this little furry critter looks too clean for a nature spirit, the fur doesn’t shag or bear moss, there are no antlers or horns resembling branches or photosynthesizing stems, there are no sharp claws, scent gland holes, or any other grotesque feature, no uncomfortably familiar looking humanoid face, no nothing to make him embody the everything that is life!
    Too clean too trimmed like an oak at the park or a palm by the roadside in a big dull city!
    He shoulda been a muntjac fellow!

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Před 22 dny +3

      Goooooood noice

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Před 22 dny +4

      Great observation

    • @kelsey2333
      @kelsey2333 Před 17 dny

      Did you come up with that depiction of the spirit of the forest from the movie Princess Mononoke by studio ghibli

  • @senatorarmstrong1233
    @senatorarmstrong1233 Před 22 dny +56

    Theorizer is like the real life version of “The Question” from DC.

    • @neonjoker
      @neonjoker Před 22 dny +8

      Reminds me of the line
      "Who punched you?, Answer THE QUESTION"
      -The Question

  • @debater452
    @debater452 Před 22 dny +54

    Perhaps the reason why O'hair didn't kill Ted when he was brought to him was because Ted is his kid

  • @thecarnew5334
    @thecarnew5334 Před 22 dny +69

    He did a poll on this a month ago on what is the best, but he chose all of them.
    What a good man.

  • @t.z2359
    @t.z2359 Před 22 dny +38

    Quote on the back of the Lorax
    "This film is about Heritage, Nature, and Lessons to Humanity. Its about growing Prosperity for the next generation and undoing the sins of ones ancestors."
    The Theorizer

  • @AwesomeGuy123
    @AwesomeGuy123 Před 22 dny +59

    Can’t believe you would change the thumbnail from Daddy O’Hare to the Lorax.

  • @Slink04
    @Slink04 Před 22 dny +27

    “Honey wake up, The Theorizer posted a new video!”

  • @6Shots_ofEspresso
    @6Shots_ofEspresso Před 22 dny +64

    BABE WAKE UP NEW THEORIZER VIDEO

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Před 22 dny +36

    I want someone to make a princess mononoke crossover just to make the deer spirit judge the Lorax & rid of him.
    Something or someone to be “nature finding a way” incarnate.

  • @JamboreeBlackberry
    @JamboreeBlackberry Před 22 dny +31

    Hope you are safe far from the CIA, we thank you for exposing the truth.

  • @mintyflow3796
    @mintyflow3796 Před 22 dny +35

    You always make feel me like psychopath because your videos are that good and mind blowing

  • @_sarq
    @_sarq Před 22 dny +21

    A friendgroup of mine has this really elaborate injoke comparing The Lorax to that of the story of the garden of eden, was pleasantly surprised to see this theory really nicely complement that.
    EDIT: OKAY, seeing other people share this exact sentiment was eye-opening and it made me want to directly state what brought about biblical lorax becoming an injoke, that being a specific part in Biggering, where the Lorax states that the Onceler’s real problem isn’t greed, but *pride*.
    “But you know, you really can't blame greed
    No, that's stupid
    You see, it's gotta worm inside
    Oh yeah, that's right
    It's one that always needs to feed and it is never satisfied
    You get it?
    But the more you try to find it
    The more it likes to hide
    Now listen, that is a nasty, little worm
    And I like to call it pride”
    the personification of pride as a small, legless, crawling animal set off a lightbulb and the next thing we knew we were jokingly talking about how this was an elaborate metaphor for the snake in the garden of eden.
    This is an incredibly loose point made mostly in jest but the thought of this stupid injoke actually being mentioned in a theorizer video was enough of a motivator for me to type this all up.

  • @Chuycabra
    @Chuycabra Před 22 dny +17

    Honestly, the distortion to circumvent the copyright kinda fits your vibe!

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 22 dny +13

      It’s what I’ve done in the past, sometimes overkill lol

  • @Batwithhumanteeth
    @Batwithhumanteeth Před 22 dny +35

    I can't help but feel you're 5’6 with the way you called Ohare a short king

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 22 dny +36

      He is a king, bloody legend, and I’m a 6’2 degenerate

    • @nickronca1562
      @nickronca1562 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@TheTheorizer Wow, you're taller than my dad even though you're only 7 months older than me

    • @deleetiusproductions3497
      @deleetiusproductions3497 Před 20 dny +1

      @@TheTheorizer Huh, you're a similar height to me.

    • @AchyParts
      @AchyParts Před 20 dny +5

      @@TheTheorizer That sounds exactly like something a 5'6'' person would say

    • @kanesmith8271
      @kanesmith8271 Před 20 dny

      You got mogged hard 😂

  • @Str4ng3musik
    @Str4ng3musik Před 22 dny +12

    I am ALWAYS willing to drop everything when a new theorizer vid is up.

  • @Rey_Palpatine
    @Rey_Palpatine Před 22 dny +12

    I love these kinds of theories where it all turns out to be a messed up family story, with the character all being connected in some way. And it makes too much sense, too

  • @sugarandroses7691
    @sugarandroses7691 Před 22 dny +11

    See I really was wondering the whole movie why the onceler never just planted the seed, I mean I know it's supposed to be that the soil was ruined, but that can't be true do to the onceler still being able to be alive and BREATHING! The whole movie was full of these hidden details just WAITING for someone like you (The Theorizer) to retell this story in the true, yet dark way. It's always a good day when you upload!

  • @Insert6character4name.
    @Insert6character4name. Před 22 dny +14

    THIS is what I've been waiting for! Ever since I saw the community post teasing this I've been eagerly waiting for it.

  • @pedrourbano501
    @pedrourbano501 Před 22 dny +10

    Maybe O'Hare was influenced by the Lorax in some way, like, maybe the Lorax disguised himself as a human or hell even presented himself as a magical creature, except omitting the parts where he fights for nature and all that, and offered O'Hare the seeds so he could produce his air, that way he influenced everything from behind the scenes.

  • @Trainman-fx9oe
    @Trainman-fx9oe Před 22 dny +15

    Has anyone else came to the terrifying realisation that the trees in The Lorax are the clovers in Horton Hears a Who?(Katie part 4)

  • @AustinD_YT
    @AustinD_YT Před 22 dny +14

    While i agree with the family connections, the fact O'hare got a seed from the lorax though im not so sure.
    In an extended version of the theme song at the top of the movie, where the town is praising how perfect their town is, O'hare himself says a very particular line:
    "I sell them something they can get for free"
    Now, the reason this line was left in the extended version of the song but not the one in the movie is anyones guess. It could be an old plotline they scrapped. However, it DOES support the idea that life isnt as far gone as its said to be. Or he could be referring to tge fact the onceler still has a seed that he only knows about because he maybe got one of 2 seeds from the Onceler

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Před 20 dny +2

      The way it's presented has always implied to me that air isn't gone.
      The air may be thin, stale, or otherwise unpleasant, so people are willing to buy fresh air.
      However, it's not like everyone is taking constant hits of the canned air to stay standing. Either he's passively providing some amount of air as a public service, or it's still otherwise naturally present from SOMEWHERE for free.

  • @pageturner2958
    @pageturner2958 Před 22 dny +5

    You have a voice that makes me afraid of the stair monster again
    I am not complaining

  • @thealextrifier
    @thealextrifier Před 22 dny +11

    My mom’s most frequently asked question about Nightmare Before Christmas always was ‘why didn’t Santa use that power before Oogey Boogey nearly killed him?’
    What does that have to do with this theory? Well the first words I thought of when she asked that was ‘THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!’ Just like the Lorax says about his own powers.
    I wonder if Santa was trying to teach that same lesson to Halloween town by LETTING IT ALL HAPPEN?

  • @pela10
    @pela10 Před 16 dny +4

    7:35 in spanish mr o’hare says to ted’s mom to go back to the kitchen so it is even more personal

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 16 dny +1

      That’s what I thought he said in English, I had to correct it later lol

  • @Thisnotwitterfr
    @Thisnotwitterfr Před 22 dny +10

    I don’t think that Mr. O’Hare is a byproduct of The Lorax, i think he might be the Lorax. Hear me out, shortly after the Lorax leaves, we see a young Mr. O’Hare. Shortly After Mr. O’Hare is thrown out of thneedsville, the Lorax return. He might be the Lorax in a different form. This would make the Lorax Ted’s dad.

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 22 dny +10

      That’s what I was getting at, I just kind of said “maybe he created him” in case some people wouldn’t believe something as blunt

  • @HyperZX_YT
    @HyperZX_YT Před 22 dny +25

    MatPats adopted son finally uploaded.

    • @neonjoker
      @neonjoker Před 22 dny +3

      They grow up so fast

    • @jxsy
      @jxsy Před 4 dny

      bro chill out, I will literally do the unthinkable at a moments notice before you can even stop me.
      Dare you even utter the phrase "matpat" out of your sorry excuse for a mouth again, I will pursue you and make sure you regret it.

    • @neonjoker
      @neonjoker Před 4 dny

      @@jxsy matpat

  • @Fitzcrackers4prez
    @Fitzcrackers4prez Před 21 dnem +6

    I always assumed o'hair just got the air elsewhere. All the animals went away so they probably went somewhere. Also, the more convincing evidence, the onceler found the trufula trees through traveling. That means that there's other places without trufula trees, and that means other ways of getting oxygen. The onceler also had an axe before he knew about trufula trees, so theres other types of trees that would still exist.

  • @buttercupthetortoise7806
    @buttercupthetortoise7806 Před 18 dny +3

    I just realized something. When Ted goes to plant the seed, we see the whole town is concrete. There’s no exposed soil to prevent trees from growing. That’s O’Hares doing. So if someone dies, where are they buried? Outside of town? O’Hare doesn’t let anyone go outside of town and no one goes there anyways. So where do the bodies go? Also how is the onceler still alive after all this time without any fresh air? There’s no trees or plants alive near his house

  • @Snittty
    @Snittty Před 22 dny +8

    If the theoriser made a video saying i was a russian sleeper agent activated by the word bananajam i would believe him

  • @snapslingpeavine1371
    @snapslingpeavine1371 Před 22 dny +18

    Have you ever watched the adult cartoon "Happy Tree Friends?" I know it’s a weird thing to bring up considering it’s unrelated to the topic of this video, but I feel the show has some good theory potential.
    I don’t want to spoil anything in the series, but just as an example the show has a lot of strange inconsistencies that I see as too purposeful to be just continuity mistakes.
    Also, the series is based around seemingly cute and cuddly characters that have demented sides to their personality, which is a trend I’ve noticed with a lot of your theory topics. (i.e. Mort, Katie, Gary the Snail, Scrat, etc.)

    • @swausgebouwen143
      @swausgebouwen143 Před 22 dny +3

      Good comment, hope he reads it

    • @DivineXPotato
      @DivineXPotato Před 22 dny +3

      that unlocked some core memories thanks

    • @trixxart777
      @trixxart777 Před 20 dny +2

      I remember stumbling across that show when I was younger. Definitely would be cool to see to see a theory.

    • @outerspaceproduction
      @outerspaceproduction Před 20 dny +2

      I love htf! ❤️ (Tothy is my favorite)

    • @snapslingpeavine1371
      @snapslingpeavine1371 Před 20 dny +2

      @@outerspaceproduction Flaky and Pop for me personally. Toothy is very underrated though!

  • @billybobjoe-gv7jx
    @billybobjoe-gv7jx Před 22 dny +5

    the theorizers pfp makes me think they are like a member of anonymous and if I don't believe them they gonna send me a virus that makes my computer explode.
    Youve convinced me before the vid started

  • @debater452
    @debater452 Před 22 dny +6

    This is actually apart of the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion

    • @IronDJW
      @IronDJW Před 21 dnem +1

      *Boss bar fills*
      _Lorax, Speaker of the Trees_

  • @vulcorethegreat1220
    @vulcorethegreat1220 Před 22 dny +4

    Bro his voice sound much deeper.
    Unfortunately a slight plot hole in all this. The reason Ohare doesn't want the trees is because trees make fresh air for free. His whole business is selling purified air, even advertised as such. Mechanical air purifiers are a thing and Ohare seems to be a nerdy tech guy so he more likely invented air purifiers.

  • @FroppyKai
    @FroppyKai Před 22 dny +9

    finally, how many times have you smashed your fist against the wall when making this video?

  • @Secretlyjudgingyou-vr9mh
    @Secretlyjudgingyou-vr9mh Před 22 dny +8

    You know the movie could avoid avoided if they just you know planted more trees after they chopped them down. That's how the logging industry works.They don't go just chopping down trees and then leaving For the next forest they regrow trees

  • @The_Evilman47
    @The_Evilman47 Před 22 dny +7

    Lorax? more like...
    EVILORAX!!!!

  • @Walleyedwosaik
    @Walleyedwosaik Před 20 dny +2

    Game theory went decently crazy so this man could go BATSHIT FECKING INSANE

  • @BadTunes.
    @BadTunes. Před 18 dny +1

    At first I was leaning into mail man as his father is such a great joke, I died at this part. 4:40

  • @TheWhite-Guy
    @TheWhite-Guy Před 22 dny +7

    Alright, here goes:
    So this whole thing could be seen as a metaphor for the Bible.
    The most obvious comparison would be Ted being Jesus, saving the town from a hellish, artificial world and starting to plant trees. This would also make the Lorax God. He descends from the sky, protects the animals, is played by Danny Devito, and, if your theory is correct, destroyed the trees and wilderness, perhaps similar to the flooding of Earth in Genesis.
    These two comparisons also fit together quite nicely, as if the Lorax is O’Hare, or created O’Hare, and O’Hare is Ted’s father, that would make the metaphorical God the father of the metaphorical Jesus, just like the Bible.
    That leaves a couple of options for the Once-ler, the best fitting being Adam and Granny Norma being Eve. This works best if you consider that Granny Norma was the Thneed woman, the first one who truly used the Thneed, the object which later led to the destruction of all the trees, perhaps how like Eve was the first to take a bite out of the forbidden fruit, which led to her and Adam being expelled from the Garden of Eden. That would therefore make the Once-ler’s father: the Lorax, just as God created Adam.
    Edit: I think I changed my mind about The Lorax being The Onceler’s father. The main reason for this is, why? What point would the Lorax have to have a son who was destined to destroy the trees? You could argue that the Lorax did so in order to display the dangers of destroying the trees for everyone else. But that would rely on the assumption that there are others who would want to destroy all the trees. It also involves an unhealthy dose of cyclical reasoning. The Lorax has a son to destroy trees…so he can make sure no one destroys the trees. If Mr. Riser can make it work, awesome, but I’m calling the last part of my theory wrong. (I still believe everything else I talked about though.)

    • @tincan357
      @tincan357 Před 22 dny +4

      damn that's good, to add more, since Jesus is God that would make Ted, O'hare and the Lorax be the same form of something which forms a trinity, i believe in that world God exists which would make it perfect
      i need the theorizer to make something out of these comparisons
      also i don't know much about christianity so if i say nonsnse tell me

    • @TheWhite-Guy
      @TheWhite-Guy Před 22 dny +2

      @@tincan357 you’ve actually got a good point about the trinity, but I don’t think Ted is the third member, I think it might be Audrey. Mr. Riser did make a theory way back when, in which he claimed that Audrey is the Lorax, so you can find all the evidence for it there. That doesn’t quite line up with Ted being Jesus, given that Jesus is part of the trinity, but I think it’s an interesting extension. Good idea.

  • @minimal301
    @minimal301 Před 22 dny +5

    NO WAY THE GUY WHO SPEAKS FOR THE TREES DESTROYS THE TREES

    • @Phantom86d
      @Phantom86d Před 22 dny +1

      Trees are more violent than you know. They share resources between their root systems and if a tree is weak, the other trees withhold nutrients. Anyone who speaks for the trees must be equally pragmatic. 🤫

  • @matthewmorano8457
    @matthewmorano8457 Před 22 dny

    Yessss! Always look forward to diving into the madness with you! It's really a shame that you keep getting copyright struck, but I'll watch everything you make, even if it's an edited reupload.

  • @laatmaasquanariin3945
    @laatmaasquanariin3945 Před 22 dny

    Every few months i come back to this channel and im never dissapointed. Keep bringing the thruth you crazy enlightened individual

  • @luisrodriguez7727
    @luisrodriguez7727 Před 22 dny +8

    New video about the lorax, awesome!!!

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Před 22 dny +11

    0:12 Well it’s an illuminations production of course he wanted it all to die of course he’s selling out for Honda, cuz he ain’t the Lorax he’s a poser ass!

  • @CalamityEvermore
    @CalamityEvermore Před 22 dny +2

    Hlariously enough, earlier this week in class we watched the lorax and I had the exact same thought of "what if granny norma was the thneed girl?", so seeing somebody actually look into this is seriously making this an enjoyable episode.

  • @alyssanering7454
    @alyssanering7454 Před 18 dny +2

    Get this man a Netflix show

  • @elliot-sowdon
    @elliot-sowdon Před 21 dnem +20

    I think the Lorax is probably Cy the O’Hare Delivery Guy. The flashbacks seem to imply that O’Hare is just another Onceler style capitalist who started out innocent but was corrupted by money and power. Audrey is too young, for her to be the Lorax, he would have had to decided to become a lost child and hope to be adopted, or possibly dispose of an actual child and replace her, which seems harsh considering that he was opposed to drowning the Onceler.
    Cy has no backstory and would have been an adult when the town was incorporated. He is the first townsperson to say that the trees are worth a chance at the climax of the movie, actually calls O’Hare a “greedy dirtbag” and he has the exact same mustache as the Lorax. As a delivery man he can enter every house in town and monitor the people. He could have been the one to tell Audrey about the trees and he could have “found” a seed for O’Hare back in the day and given it away, pretending he didn’t understand its worth.
    I suppose he could also be Audrey’s father who raised her with an understanding of nature, but I can’t prove that, only suspect it from her Lorax colored hair and knowledge that trees produce oxygen.
    Audrey being effectively half fay would also explain why the tree she helped plant grew so well and produced so many more trees. She literally has nature magic.
    Another point in favor of the Lorax visiting everyone and subtly promoting trees to them is that literally everyone in town except O’Hare is so excited about gardening that they sing about it, including Marie who is only 3 but would really like to see a tree. Why? Most people irl are indifferent to adding a new thing to their town, and 3 year olds are usually uninterested in things that will not benefit them in the next 10 minutes. I suppose
    Marie could be Audrey’s sister since she does stand with Audrey and Cy during O’Hare’s part in “Let it Grow” and has no definitive parents. Also despite her young age she is on key and rhymes her verse perfectly. Her hair is more strawberry blonde than orange but it could darken with age and she has blue eyes and an upturned nose like the Lorax. None of that proves she isn’t fully human, but the only other child who has a solo in this movie is Westley who has the shorter non rhyming line “I just went swimming and now I glow.” Considering that he can actually swim without floaties, he is probably much older than 3, yet has a much simpler part. Suspicious.

  • @TrueHavoc13
    @TrueHavoc13 Před 22 dny +3

    It makes me feel that they are separate entities part of a cycle. Kind of kile rava and vaatu from legend of korra

  • @sugrcube
    @sugrcube Před 17 dny

    omg i havent watched this channel in YEARS but im so glad to see youre still going strong

  • @kylebartlett9683
    @kylebartlett9683 Před 22 dny +2

    I always figured O'Hare gets the air from somewhere far off. After all the animal are going somewhere in the flashback so its not like all the trees are gone, only the ones in that area are. So its less that the air is being "created" and more like its being imported

  • @HeyItsQuayshawn
    @HeyItsQuayshawn Před 22 dny +4

    @12:48-13:13 FACTS!!! Consequences are the best/only teacher. Gotta hit rock bottom. I used to be an "activist". Then I realized some things about ppl & myself. Now I just focus on my own integrity & whats in my direct control, & "let" ppl learn the hard way. 🤷🏾

  • @Mrcrackodoodle
    @Mrcrackodoodle Před 22 dny +6

    IVE BEEN SO ADDICTED TO THE LORAX FOR SO LONG IM SO READY FOR THIS

  • @friendlyneighborhoodsoeedw4440

    I really wanted to say that this channel is super unique. With hundreds of Theory channels exist, then you have the theory channel of all theory channels, whom i wont name.
    But, despite all that, you do a great job on standing out! While others mosly recap on theories already known, or the aforementioned theory channel of theory channels. But your sarcasm and wackiness is really entertaining. And i really appreciate how straight you play it, with just the right amount of self awareness. And the quickness to the point as it just descends into madness is just, great.

  • @1Adamrpg
    @1Adamrpg Před 22 dny

    Amazing production quality, pacing, and vibes. Please keep this up!

  • @charlotterice3839
    @charlotterice3839 Před 22 dny +5

    WAAAAAH THEORIZER UPLOADED

  • @bellejour559
    @bellejour559 Před 22 dny +4

    Whhhaaaat? Never heard of this. Thank you!

  • @kingDowahs
    @kingDowahs Před 18 dny +1

    The Theorizer could be talking about a Toothpaste brand and would still make it sound like the deepest conspiracy of all time

  • @Bunbunboi-lm8bw
    @Bunbunboi-lm8bw Před 22 dny +1

    The Theorizer, you scare me… AND I LOVE IT!!

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch3889 Před 22 dny +5

    Looks like you defeated Universal ⚔️
    Also not to be annoying but I got the first view baby

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912 Před 22 dny +3

    this more nostalgic then Nostalgia critic

  • @occultnightingale1106
    @occultnightingale1106 Před 19 dny

    This video (and by extension, the entire channel) are a testament to the importance of paying attention to the small details when writing/making a story. Intentional or not, these small details can completely recontextualize everything, or more importantly, completely dismantle the story you thought you were trying to tell.

  • @Pre-understood
    @Pre-understood Před 22 dny +4

    shoulda put the vine thud sound at the word disco reveal

  • @mrdoor12323
    @mrdoor12323 Před 22 dny +3

    Is this the new theory legend after matpat retired

  • @DanielLopez-jl7is
    @DanielLopez-jl7is Před 8 dny +1

    I miss the days where I would watch a Theorizer video on a Saturday morning and be amazed then play videogames, now it’s I have to watch it two weeks after it’s posted because I finally get a day off from work and this is peak entertainment to relax to👌 I love your content man, always will

  • @dragonpimp252
    @dragonpimp252 Před 22 dny

    yessssssssssss you always crack open these theory's please keep it up man!

  • @MajorProblems5
    @MajorProblems5 Před 22 dny +6

    Been waiting

  • @oneiroi6881
    @oneiroi6881 Před 22 dny +6

    AWESOME

  • @jadamaynard-chung3046
    @jadamaynard-chung3046 Před 22 dny

    I’ve been binge watching old theories.i literally watched a different Lorax one before this 😂😂😂 great timing

  • @1000dumplings
    @1000dumplings Před 9 dny

    This is such an amazing theory, the fact that it lines up with the morals and soul of the actual story speaks volumes. I wouldn't be surprised if the creators confirmed this was canon. Hats off to you!

  • @thisisavivistanaccount7866

    yay! here it is!!!

  • @harrietsmells
    @harrietsmells Před 22 dny +4

    HOLY CRAP REALLY

  • @aa-eh9uf
    @aa-eh9uf Před 22 dny +1

    instant like as soon as i clicked on this video. i saw you explain in a post some hours ago about how they™️ tried to silence you with copyright and not let this video get uploaded; just proves this video is 100% correct.

  • @spoookley
    @spoookley Před 21 dnem +2

    the thing about illumination movies is that the animators are actually BONKERS when it comes to detail. specifically, both norma & bernice have a noticeably familiar set of cardigans (altered thneeds) & ted’s outfit is literally cut from the same cloth as the thneed girl’s shirt with the once-ler’s grey undershirt. their family has been in the textile business for generations, the best (& most common) practice is to reuse fabric whenever possible
    there’s also even more genetic traits that you can point to, since there is a LOT of attention to detail put there. between ted, bernice, & norma (including past norma), you can see that they all have the upturned button nose, which like in real life your nose becomes larger with age, but ted’s nose is already bigger than norma’s was in the past, which makes sense when you look at o’hare’s nose. ted’s face shape is directly in between that of his mom’s & o’hare’s.
    i’d also like to point out some interesting genetics that could hypothetically happen if audrey & ted had kids. we know norma was blond & thus bernice has to have the blond trait as well. lorax genetics definitely make it more difficult to figure out exactly what would happen (especially since he’s got red body hair & blonde facial hair) so we know ted has to have brown hair, but we also have no idea if he as a second brown hair gene, a blond gene from his mother’s side, or he has the wack lorax genetics. this means that if ted & audrey have kids they could either all have brown hair, have a mix of brown & strawberry blond, or even a mix of brown, red, (strawberry?) blond, & lorax

  • @all2564
    @all2564 Před 22 dny +4

    How bad can it be?

  • @youtubeneedstochange4414
    @youtubeneedstochange4414 Před 22 dny +3

    I would believe this if The Lorax wasn't a garbage movie made by a soulless corporation for the sake of profit and nothing else. The idea that they would put any thought whatsoever into the plot is hilarious.

  • @Amethyspian12
    @Amethyspian12 Před 22 dny +2

    The Disco might also be a reference to the band Panic! At The Disco. Ted's main outfit is modeled after a famous outfit the lead singer, Brendon Urie wore in the 2000's. And the Onceler is based off of the original songwriter and guitarist (and lead vocalist for the second album) Ryan Ross. Just search his name with the Onceler, and you'll see the proof. The band had a pretty talked-about split, so it's fair to assume some of the staff got crazy with it.

  • @coachcherokee1488
    @coachcherokee1488 Před 22 dny +1

    You know it’s a good day when the theorized uploads

  • @Dahlia_Sweetie
    @Dahlia_Sweetie Před 22 dny +4

    YASS UPLOADED! EARLY

  • @HPro5555
    @HPro5555 Před 22 dny +4

    Evil Lorax!

  • @saraquick1847
    @saraquick1847 Před 7 dny

    Im going to be absolutely honest, after matpat left officially i thought there would be a void in the theory community and then i stumbled across your channel, gained a fan for life thank you for your deep dives ill never stop watching and theorizing

  • @RetroRenegade8706
    @RetroRenegade8706 Před dnem

    I dont know but the editing on this video about a conspiracy on the lorax kept me on the verge of bursting out laughing

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912 Před 22 dny +3

    I thought Ted was 12