AMERICAN PERSIMMONS: Luscious Native "Wild" Fruits of the Fall (New Video Lesson)
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AMERICAN PERSIMMONS: LUSCIOUS NATIVE “WILD” FRUITS OF THE FALL (New Video Lesson)
American persimmon, scientifically called Diospyros virginiana of the Ebenaceae family is a jewel to behold in this darkening time of the year. It is Native to the USA, ranging from New England to Florida, and west to Texas and Kansas. Grows best in USDA hardiness zones 4-9.
Look for American persimmons in moist fields, woodland and forest openings, upper plateaus of rivers, and permaculture gardens. They prefer moist but well drained sandy soil, although tolerate many.
Harvest
Fruit ripens in early fall through late fall.
Make sure the persimmons are completely ripe, detected by a fragile, almost translucent skin that surrounds super-soft flesh. Fully ripe fruit appears almost rotten but tastes divine like gooey caramel meets Barhi date in the house of apricot. Eat flesh and skin, raw or cooked.
Caution: if not completely ripe, the fruit is extremely astringent and leaves an unpleasant dry and tight sensation in the mouth (Yuck!!).
Cultivation
Tree height up to 70 feet (more often 40 ft).
Hardiness zones (4)5-9. Soil PH 6-8.
Needs at least 6 hours of light to produce fruit.
Needs female and male trees for fruit production, unless you plant a self fertile cultivar like Meader.
Space tree center’s 30 ft apart for successful pollination.
Propagation by seed, grafting or root cuttings
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Being Chinese I especially appreciate dried persimmons--the texture and flavor is unbeatable of all dried fruits. Candy to the mouth : )
Thanks, yes!!!
I love drying my American Persimmons!! I found out that the fruit off my American Persimmon tree will continue to ripen off the tree and I don't need the seeds to be viable so I pick mine when they're fully orange, but still hard so I can handle them while they ripen and dry. They kind of remind me of dried Figs
I've even gone .... "too far" and picked one when it was green, but it STILL went orange and ripened.
I’ve always wondered why I’ve never seen dried persimmons for sale…
There are not enough really good persimmon overview videos on CZcams. This one is excellent. 👍🏻
Thank you for your feedback! Glad.
This is so helpful! I just found out I have a bunch in my backyard and I can’t wait until the fall to harvest them.
Enjoy them!
I am so glad to see a good video on persimmon trees. My dad transplanted some seedlings he found in the woods so we now have a small orchard with 5 trees. Between them and a friend's house, we collected 18 pounds last year. Ours all have really big seeds so there is a male nearby.
Your persimmon orchard sounds wonderful!
Have you tried making persimmon bread? They're really good in bread and it can be easily frozen for Christmas gifts.
Yum!!! @@seasea12
Have one of these trees teamed up with our white grapefruit tree. They make people hit the brakes to stare in amazement 😮 🌳🌳
Wow, sounds lovely!
Thank you very much. I finally identified this tree on my street. I've been busting my head trying to. Thanks again from Austin!
Welcome!
I found an American persimmon while on a trail yesterday. Thanks for this video. It had such a relaxing effect. I felt like I was there with you on this fall day.
Thanks, Kyle, for your comment. Good to know that you found an American persimmon (where are you regionally?) and that you appreciated the video! Enjoy the channel.
I planted a Meader in my yard, love it! This year was the best year. My persimmons have seeds, so I think that means there's another persimmon tree in the area.
Thanks for your comment. Interesting, wondering about those seeds....
I love this tree! I have so many seedlings I grew from a wild tree from a nearby forest. I hope I can see some fruit from my trees in my lifetime. 🤣
Yes, I share your appreciation of American persimmon trees and hoping you'll get some fruit sooner than later!
Thank you for taking the time to make and post this video. Very educational.
Thank you for watching!
I love them! So delicious 😋
yes, agreed!
We were lucky bc mother had a Persimmon Tree in our backyard. You gather the fruit after the frost has hit them.
Thank you, 10Toes, for your comment!
Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy your channel.
Glad! Thank you for watching.
I live in Northeast Texas. This tree grows in Caddo Lake which is a swamp. It actually lives in the water year round, surrounded by bald cypress and other swamp trees.
Thank you, good to know!
There's a small old (cultivar) tree smack dab in the middle of the city of Redding California, on a street corner. -Beautiful orange fruit. Northern California during the 20th century had some commercial persimmon orchards. The fruit was very popular for baking. During winter holiday season, there'd be persimmon breads, as well as date. Don't hear much about 'em now days. Not even sure if they're still around. Also used to be some really nice fig orchards around here too.
Thanks for your comment. Sounds wonderful: olden day of persimmon, date and fig.
Might be worthwhile to grab a twig and start a clone. Seems like they take pretty readily with the use of rooting hormone and starting in the sand.
Thanks for posting, going to try this one in upstate NY. I've found and eaten them (this species) grown in California and I really think they are the BEST tasting of all persimmons.
Cool! Thanks for watching and may your plantings become fruitful!
I have a Rosseyanka of which the graft died but the rootstock an American persimmon is alive even though really small after years of struggling. I came here to learn. Great education thank you. I know better now what to expect.
Also, if you can, it might be worth it for you to graft another variety onto your rootstock.
I have just found this tree on my property. I'm drying them and then going to put some in the fridge to germinate. I might just put a seed in the ground. Anyway. I'm real excited to grow it. It is beautiful and will not over shade my gardens.
Thanks for you comment. Such a beautiful tree. Good luck planting.
First off your last name is amazing!
Secondly, your voice is very nice, it's pleasing to my ears.
Lastly, really cool fruits and a lot of good information, definitely going to be looking for these this year!
Thanks! Enjoy!
Just discovered I have a persimmon tree in my front yard...won't tell you how long its been there. But yay me.
Ha, Mimi, funny! Lucky you.
How long ago did you plant them? I love this.
Thanks! This tree is about 20 years old; I think.
Had one of these trees at my pal pals and I would eat the super green ones to make my mouth numb lol
Ouch, eating those super green ones!
😂 never tried it
It's August 22nd and I just found ripe fruit here in Louisiana
Wow, good to know!
Mine are bareroot 18” tall. Planted in April and I’m finally getting buds. Can I expect them to grow a foot or so next year? How fast do they grow
Thanks, it depends on your soil, rain, temps, etc.; so really hard to say.
do you trim the American Persimmon to keep them small? I thought they grew into tall trees, I planted some this year , for the wildlife they are native trees but arent many around where I live
Thanks, yes, we have pruned it, but not for awhile.
They grow in Massachusetts too
Thanks, good to know. What region?
@@DinaFalconi Hampshire County, so western mass - see Carr's Cider House
Thanks
What are the best american persimmon cultivars for flavor? I plan to graft several different varieties but I don't have much experience with the flavor profile of the different varieties.
Thanks for this question, of which I do not know the answer. But love your idea of grafting diff. varieties and would love to hear what you learn.
There's an orchard near me that sells both persimmons and scion wood. I'm planning on getting a sapling from a nursery and grafting on a bunch of different cultivars once it's big enough. I'm also growing a few potted wild persimmons from seed, hopefully I can graft a male branch or two onto my main tree.
Thank you for an excellent video! And for showing respect for the American persimmon. I watched a different video about persimmon and the guy kept trashing American Persimmon trees and was all about the Asian varieties. I have three Volunteer persimmon trees in my field. Most likely “planted” by an opossum. I intend to let them grow to maturity. You said they send out shoots. Or runners. Do I have to leave those or can I cut it back to one central trunk?
Hello Steve, thank you for your comment. Yes, I believe you can cut back the runners.
We never had runners, had one tree, our fruit had seeds.
Coyotes love these things.
Ha, good to know!
These grow wild all over the place in Louisiana, such a common sight out in the woods in the southern portion of the state, after years of just staring at them I decided to learn a bit about them. However I still think the fruits are disgusting & they stink to high hell when they fall off the tree. I hear people talking about their trees being 18’ tall, any I’ve ever encountered have always been in excess of 50 feet. I guess they may not grow as well in other places?
Thanks for your comment. Curious about the "stink" you mention. I have not experienced this. What do they smell like to you?
Do I need 2 plants? I only have one which I bought last week.
Do you know if what you bought is self fertile? If yes, you are good, if not you will need a male and female for fruit production.
😋 I wish I could taste it! too bad I live way down south... hahaha "Brazil"
Yes, wish you could taste it too, yet you have so much amazing fruit in Brazil too.
@@DinaFalconi I know, Brazil is known for a variaty of exotic fruits... but some of these fruits are exotic even to Brazilians themselves (hahaha), and Expensive. the most popular fruits are bananas, pineapple, apple, orange, tangerine, passion fruit... in small supermarkets these will be easily the most "famous", some time we got some dufferents fruits from other regions of the country.
Thanks, good to know.
Brazil is where we get our seeds from and yea it’s expensive! Some seeds can cost well over $100 each!
@@fruitsyfarms5115 wow, I collect a lot f seeds from some fruits, I prefer the native ones, I live in a region wich previously Atlantic forest. at the moment I am with some seeds of "cereja-do-rio-grande" and some "jerivá".
I just planted a golden delight persimmon tree, it's American persimmon but I am not sure if it is self fertile or requires a male tree. Any idea?
Good question. I see Early Golden as self fertile but don't see details on Golden Delight. Can you check with the nursery you bought it from?
@@DinaFalconi I am surprised that four fruits remained on the tree until they are ripen, for the first year. There were lots of flowers, maybe close to a hundred, but all gradually dropped except these four.
Late October here, the wind's have removed the leaves leaving only the fruit. I noticed mid to late summer most of the tree's leaves developed black spots. Should I be concerned?
Hello Heter O"Dox, thanks for your comment. And to your question: not sure if you should be concerned. Perhaps the drought (we had one here in NY during July and August) affected the leaves where you are. Where are you?
@@DinaFalconi Missouri, terrible drought this year
Thank you, and sorry to hear.
Could you please comment if any American persimmon trees can grow in MN?
What growing zone are you in? American persimmons grow in hardiness zones 5-9. From this map, I don't see any in Minnesota. plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=DIVI5
Thanks! So MN is just north of the growing map! I love persimmon!
Looks like it. What growing zone are you in?
It grows from zone 4 to 10
How much persimmons can I enjoy..someone told me be careful of bezoar in stomach..what's that?
Ha, yes, New Hac, a bezoar is a strange sounding thing. I am not sure how it gets formed; how many persimmons we can eat, and really don't know much about this. Please do more research and keep us posted. I'd like to know more too.
Perfect timing... I've been staring at my full persimmon tree trying to figure out exactly when they are ripe...seems to be just at the same time the insects start to nibble. Any truth to the statement that a way to ensure they are edible is to wait till after a frost?
Glad for the timing. Not sure a frost makes them all edible, best to look for a fragile, almost translucent skin that surrounds super-soft flesh. Fully ripe fruit appears almost rotten. Keep me posted.
Actually frost does not make them edible. I just checked this morning after we had a hard frost and some of the American Persimmons are def. not ripe yet!
@@DinaFalconi Noticed same thing yesterday after the frost. I have found very small seeds in mine however, you wouldn't notice they were there except for the black dots with uniform spacing around the bottom.. I have one of the varieties that don't need male and female.
What variety do you have?
@@DinaFalconi Unfortunately I cant remember, got it from Catskill Native Nursery a number of years ago.
If you bite into one that’s not ripe you will never forget it.
So true!!!
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Yes, this is also called Persimmon here in New York. This is an American Persimmon.
@@DinaFalconi hallo salam kenal saya dari indonesian🇮🇩🙏