1991 Ford Mustang 5.0 "Fox Body" Review - Why It's The Coolest Mustang!
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- I've always been curious about the 3rd generation "Fox Body" Mustang 5.0, as it's one of very few Mustangs to weigh in under 3000 lbs with a V8. Let's see if it's any good to drive on a back road.
1991 Ford Mustang LX Mod List:
225 hp, 300 lb-ft, less than 2,900 lbs
3.27 LSD
Full exhaust, throttle body, MAF, shifter
Maximum motorsports braces, panhard bar, suspension
Bilstein HDs with front coilover conversion
Braided brake lines, 01 GT brakes, new rotors with HPS pads
Rear mount battery, Corbeau seats, no rear interior
Firestone Indy 500 tires 245/45R/17
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Also the steering on this car for the 1991 model year is a 20:1 ratio rack. 1987 to 1989 is 15:1 which provides more feedback and has a quicker turning lock to lock, especially for the road twistees. I can tell that the factory rubber steering rack bushings in this car need to be replaced, and that is why you are finding so much play in the steering. In my 1989 coupe I replaced my steering rack and added Maximum Motorsport solid rack bushings, as well as a Maximum Motorsports solid steering shaft. The steering shaft eliminates the rag joint in the shaft and the solid bushings, as well as a new steering pump, completely fixed and eliminated any steering play AND gave excellent feedback as to road feel and communication from the front tires!!!!
This car has the LMR 15:1 steering rack, MM solid rack bushings, and MM steering shaft. I might prefer a flaming river manual rack but would have a difficult time routing the serpentine belt. Power steering is good for day to day use cases but manual steering is the way
It’s so nice seeing people share their suspension setups instead of gatekeeping it.
Notchback 5.0 is one of the cars I would love to buy.
Especially the CHP version
I still remember when I was shopping for my first car in '96, I really wanted a Fox body. Went to Downtown Ford in Sacramento, and they had DOZENS of used former Highway Patrol 5.0's repainted in all sorts of wild colors sitting on the lot... Didn't get one even though they were only like $6k each. That was double what my first car allowance was at the time lol
Damn, imagine what it would be worth today.....
@@g89stangI keep an eye out and see a lot of them go for 15-20k and above. It’s insane man, glad I got a fox before they shot up in price like crazy.
Not getting one was a good thing
Those cars lived a tough life and were pretty used up early in life
Nice 🤙
0/10 safety
10/10 fun factor
I grew up in the back of one of these it was my fathers pride and joy. He had the glass pack on her . I’ll never forget riding through parkades and setting off every car alarm 😂 thanks for bringing back warm memories with this video
Miss my fox body - bought new in ‘89. Missed it lately enough to dig up some VHS of it and posted it 😂 By mid 90’s iit was my 505rwhp daily driver. Gotta give the early ‘90s some credit! 😂
4.10 gear would really wake it up a bit and the solid axle rear probably not the best bumpy canyon rear end.. There are a few companies who make real handling focused upgrades for the chassis (Griggs, Maximum Motorsports, etc). What's wild is the FOX chassis went from 1978 all the way to 2004 and there are lots of sleeper fairmonts, zephyrs, thunderbirds that all share the same underpinnings. Later IRS from New Edge Mustang Cobras can be bolted in to any of these fox chassis cars, there are double wishbones conversions for the front now. and you can stuff 315 section width tires all around on them with infinitely supported powerplant swap options.
These are sweet. There's a guy that is always at the tail of the dragon when I go to this event called tougefest up there with a fox body that is seriously impressive. Similar setup to this one with some 200tw's and the thing keeps up with Miatas and some S2000's. It's rad
Just drove my 91 to work this morning. Always puts a smile on my face. Mostly stock. Few mods are 3.73 rear gears, Hurst Ford Performance shifter, BBK off road H-pipe, Flowmaster mufflers. Stifflers sub-frame connectors, lowered with 275 tires in the rear. Even has cold AC if I need it.
All the torque is available in lower rpm range. Shifting at 3k rpm is more than enough to get ahead of most traffic or drivers. From a stop or 5 mph roll it will smoke both the rear tires at will.
Never see these reviewed! Nice one 😎
I love Mustangs. Now you need to try a 96-98 Cobra.
The owner of this car is my buddy. He used to have the nicest 97 Cobra on staggered FR500 and built suspension.
@@brandonairey4040 nice. I think the foxbodys 5.0 and the 96-98 Cobras are some of the best sounding cars ever. Especially with Flowmaster 40 series mufflers and an o/r H-pipe. Perfect car exhaust sound 👌🏼 My dad always had Mustangs, so I have many memories in them… I’ve had a Bullitt Mustang before but sadly sold it for a C6 Corvette which I did not like… Anyways, I’m saving up cash so in the next two years I can buy a mint 96-98 Cobra, can’t wait!
@@spencersgaragegood luck! My 97 cobra had shorties, o/r h-pipe, and spintech prostreets dumped. Those dohc engines sound good
Thanks Fenton! 🦊
I'm the original owner of my '91 5.0 5 speed foxbody convertible and if you get right down to it, in some areas it leaves a little (or a lot) to be desired. However, on a sunny summer day, driving along the Oregon coast with the top down and that open car feeling, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
You never see reviews on these track driving wise.
I'm a Mopar guy more older mopars than the newer ones but always loved the fox body stangs they were just a fun little toy not good in the rain much but sideways is always fun . Probably wouldn't be as loud inside if the back interior and carpet was missing took away the noise silencer
No offense to your content bro, I watch them all the time. Some videos I dont even bother to click on them because the car itself doesn't interest me in the slightest bit. As soon as I seen this video. I got excited to watch it.
Fox body is such a sweet car.
A fox body with coyote engine and IRS swap would be cool. Upgraded brakes mandatory 😉
S-trim whine on a cammed 302 is so classic of a sound to me, if I had a Fox again, that’s 100% the way I go every time. I had to leave my car running because of a hot start problem (long tube headers, big/old starter), so I went into a gas station, could hear he car camming outside, and the whine of the blower surges with the cam lope, such a cool cacophony of sounds.
Had an ‘89 LX 5.0 convertible. Loved that car.
My son is working on finishing up his '91 foxbody. He has put a lot of money into the rebuild. Will be crazy fast. As his mom this really scares me. He has good sense. I pray he will be fine.
I appreciate this video so much. You hit everything I look for tbd... Loved the details showing the handling! Thank you.
I always thought fox bodies had live rear axles. This is sick!
They do have solid rear axle, “multi link” maybe just means how there is a lower and upper control arm on each side to locate the axle assembly, along with standard shocks for up/down damping and an additional pair of “quad shocks” that are at an angle and most people remove once they are upping hp.
Surprised he didn't switch out the steering wheel, as it was the corporate FoMoCo airbag wheel in all the Ford/Lincoln/Mercurys like my dad's Sable at the time.
The foxbody was my generation and although I have always been a Chevy guy, I secretly always liked it.
Great video. I love those cars. The 93 cobra is super rare now (dream car). Thanks for doing this
I love the foxbody mustangs, especially the coupe.
5:00 what are you talking about? Second generation was the Charlie's Angels mustang. New ones are the heavy ones.
We had the Ford dealer here with large story parking garage. One entire floor was fox Mustangs-maybe 75 of them. It was a dream. My brother and I both bought them for peanuts as they were practically giving them away. I got a '90 red GT and my brother got a White LX 5.0. I think we both had car payments in the $270 a month range. As high schoolers we could easily afford them bussing tables at the local restaurant. Good times and great memories from back then, but the cars were a bit flawed where Ford kept the price down impacting handling and especially braking.
Great review, man. Thanks.
All solid axles will get unsettled when going through uneven suspension motion, the magnitude of this is relative to the severity of the disparity of the travel in the suspension as well as the speed at which it occurs (axle motion/suspension travel speed [yes, vehicle speed is the primary cause of this, but not the sole cause].) Panhard/Track bars are a good and simple axle centering device, but due to the nature of their operation they experience sagitta. Which means that the axle cannot realistically stay perfectly centered throughout it's travel. This fact means that it will amplify the unsettling experienced during uneven travel. This is why triangulated 4 link, or Watts link suspension offers the best results as both configurations yield near zero side to side movement of the axle through out it's travel. Solid axles highly advantageous in many situations. Going hard on shitty pavement is not one of them. However, should the owner invest in a Watts link (and possibly better shocks Bils are good, but better exists) will transform the handling of the car.
You need to buy one of these modified. My 86 had a rev happy engine with a vortec charger to 7k rpm. 500hp. Manual short ratio steering. It was insane.
I have a 91 gt hatch 5 spd. 373 gears and a cam. It sure is hella fun to drive. W 373's you can light em up at will.
0:45 Capri
Oh cool, think I've seen the black FiST and foxbody on fiesta st owners groups before
My favorite was the 95 Saleen S351 supercharged and 03/04 Cobra.
one of My Faves Of All Time 😅
Sophisticated as a brick but loads of fun. Drove one in Boston for a year and a half.
Rear end skip actually became predictable with time.
Also, absolutely the worst car to drive on snow. Meaning it was a MUST to drive on snow!!
There was a turn near the entrance to MIT where I would - very irresponsibly - do a 450degree turn
when there was snow (meaning a full 360 followed by a 90 degree spin).
Harvard sq. I would wave to the police and shout "If I stop I'll get stuck" as a rolled through a red light.
Miracle I never got arrested.
Today I drive ultra- responsively (and boring) in my Corolla but I still dream of the sound of that Mustang engine.
I concur with your assessment
Actually there are no rare parts for these cars!!! There is indeed a HUGE aftermarket support with OEM correct made reproduction parts. Also, you are hearing and feeling a lot of NVH as the headliner and most of the rear interior such as the seats and carpeting and sound deadening materials, are out of the car, which would help dampen a lot of the road noise you are hearing......
I had a 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 hatchback in wild strawberry metallic.
I agree. Theyre fun cars with big mod market.
Nice review 👍
90+ had that awful steering wheel. I had a 89 lx hatch growing up with 373 gears n slicks and ran a 13.9 at the track.
How do you think an S2000 would compare to a modified NC Miata? Might be cool to see :)
*Ford Caprice?!* 😂🤣
*Probably a Mercury Capri*
*Its a 5.0 liter engine, not 4.9*
*Ford has a 4.9L engine, it’s the straight 6 cylinder they used for decades and it’s 300 cubic inches*
I believe the rear end is from a Fox Body Mercury Capri. The Mercury Capri over 3 decades was a German Ford coupe, a Mustang, and an Australian-built Mazda 323-based roadster. 😂
The rear end parts (traction-lok and 3.27 ring & pinion) are from a Crown Victoria police interceptor. I'd like to replace those parts with a new traction-lok and 3.55 gear sometime soon. Mercury Capri's are pretty cool!
@@tylerengr Ah, gotcha! That makes sense why he called it a Ford Caprice.
My impression of the fox body I drove compared to the new 5.0. Is that it hits the power band way sooner than the new engine due to torque down low, gearing and light weight. It feels like it wants to go. While the new 5.0 falls asleep and has to be awakened.
when a car makes 225hp/300tq it means it makes all of the power low in the rpms
Interior from hell
Nice video. I've had plenty of these. My favorite is the coupe body because it's stiffer and stronger, and they look so tough. I also love the quad headlights in 86. My favorite look on the fox body is definitely the 86 front end.
Currently have an 86 GT convertible with 60,000 milies in mint condition, but my wife likes it so I let her have it.
*He thinks the T5 is the highlight of the car* 😂🤣
*Im done*
Fox body was made from 1988 to 2004 the 2003 and 2004 has a 4.6 supercharger very fast and fun cars I love the 2003 and 2004 like supercharger
Now find a aw11 and sw20 mr2.
A little sound deadening would go a long way.
They did not wiegh under 3000 pounds , maybe the 79 - 84 , i have a 85 gt and its 3080 pounds . As far as i know the 87 to 93 weigh more then the 79 to 84. The fox body is around 3000 pounds but like i said for sure the 85 and up weigh over 3000
My LX hatch with no weight savings was 3350lbs with me in it. Let’s say it was about 3200 lb range.
@@ISpinUWin that's what I'm saying , 85 and up are over 3000 pounds . My 85 is 3080 and I know the 87 to 93 weighed more .
Hell yeah SICK!
I want a hatchback Fox body and coyote swap it
Mad Max anyone?
I love it because I have 88 foxbody
Use the torque son.
The engine sound is glorious
I have a 90 LX, and the steering sucks
steering rack or tie ends or rack bushings prolly worn..duh.....
Is this an early April fool's video? Fox body get comparison to Hachiroku, hilarious 😂
Driver .... You stripping the gears
Get another driver that can float the stick
I think you’re nuts to push that shitbox around the canyons. Check back on Matt Farahs experience with on older Camaro back in the day and the brakes failing.
Why do you jump on a wheel so quick what are you afraid you're going to lose control
How dare someone take the 5
0 off the side of the car, its worthless now
its a cool car but its nowhere near the coolest mustang they look like ass compared to a first gen!
I love a 67 or 68 myself, but hey......you get what you can find, and what you can afford!!
Why do you pixilate out the speedometer? Is someone gonna come get you & give you a ticket for breaking the speed limit on your random mountain pass video? We all know you're going post 30mph flying up the mountain in 3rd gear! Super weird! Actual speed must be a big secret.
Anyways i grew up in tis time period(47y\o) and these have always been my favorite cars. I remember when these came out, and were all over the place! I can tell the exhaust mote from a mile away! 5point oh! I remember the state troopers having these which was pretty cool to see a NYS Trooper driving around the highway in a notchback fox body 5.0!👍🏻👌🏻🤔🏎️🚦🚧⛽🛣️⚠️🏁🛠️🔧🔩