Why The Oscars Don't Matter
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So, the political stuff is absolutely true, and I understand your point on that. But my biggest problem with the Academy goes deeper than that. The rule structure they have in place is specifically designed to discriminate against most films released around the planet. Qualifications range from where your movie is screened, projector resolution, how many critics review the movie, etc. As such, anything that's not an English language American film backed by a major studio has virtually no chance of even meeting the qualifications, let alone get nominated and win anything. For all their pandering of diversity and "progressive politics," the Academy and Hollywood as a whole showcase how they're nothing more than the oppressive establishment they claim to rally against. It's pretty damn insulting.
I also hate their "one film per country" rule for the International Film Oscar, because many films today are multi-national collaborations. There is no real diversity in awards because the very purpose of giving awards is to separate some films from others and divide them into winners and non-winners, nominees and non-nominees. It is an exercise that always honors only a minority of films and ignores the totality. We should just ignore awards, polls, etc., and just look at the totality of film art.
@@classicvideogoodies I couldn't have said it any better myself.
This argument would have more weight if we didn’t just have Parasite and Drive My Car. Not to mention The Worst Person In The World getting above the line nominations.
@@thefinalfilmbro122 Films that get Oscar nominations are already a privileged bunch because they can afford the marketing and distribution required to even have themselves be seen by Oscar voters. True underdogs and no-name filmmakers usually get recognized in other smaller award shows and festivals, such as Sundance -- or Slamdance, for those deemed too small for Sundance.
As one clever man once said they're passive progressive
If they really care so much about diversity there would be way more foreign inclussion and recognition to female and lgbt driven movies that aren't grandpa directed, the fact that a laughstock of a satire like Don't look up is nominated really shows how shallow and what type of windowdressers they are
I always admired George C. Scott for his utter contempt for awards, refusing to accept his Best Actor Oscar for "Patton". But why is he the only one?
Marlon Brando refused his Oscar for The Godfather as well.
@@danielfolk5266 Yeah, but that seemed more like a publicity stunt. Even so, just two in the history of the Academy Awards.
@@johnpjones182 Screenwriter Dudley Nichols was the very first person to refuse an Oscar. He won Adapted Screenplay for John Ford's The Informer and turned it down.
You're so spot on. I think this is why Gervais hosting was such a hit for the golden globes (for the audience, obviously not for the actors).
That's another thing that the Oscars could do to help their ratings.....hire Ricky Gervais to host. They would never have the balls.
@@deepfocuslens American celebrities, actors, presenters and comedians do not have a sense of humour fundamentally. Anyone making a living in the social entertainment/programming industry by default isn't a funny person.
Oh my God, where has this channel been all my life? Honestly, it's so great to hear you talking straight up sense about this clown world we find ourselves in these days. Subbed.
If I was an actor, which I want to be, I wouldn’t act for a little trophy. I’d do acting just because I love doing it. That’s the real Trophy, to be able to what they do. Yeah, it’s nice being recognized and to get to say thank you, but to me I feel like some actors probably dont mind not getting awards because they love the craft more than a globe award. with that being said, I do think the awards were once awesome many years ago. Hasn’t been the same for 2 decades or more.
Best of luck with your Career!
Hope you get great project's with a good heart and soul into the stories waiting to be shared and told!
Balls you wouldn’t want an Oscar!!!!
What has ruined it most of all is the need to have a campaign for your film to win which really means you are giving an Oscar for the best campaigning which has nothing to do with the films. And tied to that, what has been dubbed 'Awards Season' is designed to maintain interest in the Oscars for a longer period and position itself as the biggest BRAND of awards. Though it increases exposure, it emphasises the win/lose aspect of things as being a measure of the quality of the movies and takes the discussion away from the movies themselves.
For me, awards in general don’t matter. They don’t matter in the sense that they don’t make a film better or worse, but what they can do and have done is bring awareness to cinema at large, specifically world cinema like we saw in 2020 with PARASITE. Not only is PARASITE a great film, but it’s an important landmark in cinematic history, being the first foreign-language film to ever win Best Picture. That win was important to bring more awareness to international cinema.
I still watch the Oscars, and probably will for as long as they exist, simply because I’m a tremendous lover of film and a lot of films I like/love get nominated each year, but I do agree that generally speaking, awards, including the Oscars, don’t matter.
Drive my car is my pick this year 🚗🚗🚗
Parasite is an awful film with a inspid and terrible plot.
You say awards don't matter and then exclaim how Parasite undeservedly winning a best picture award is a landmark in cinematic history? how fucking delusional and contradictory
@@tahamohammedi5898if you read my comment thoroughly, you’d see that I said Parasite winning BP was important in the sense that the exposure the film received after the Oscars was bigger than I’m sure anyone could’ve imagined. Awards can be valuable for a film’s/filmmaker’s exposure, but winning or not winning awards doesn’t measure the quality of a film. They don’t matter in general bc for example, my second favorite film of all-time, DO THE RIGHT THING, wasn’t even nominated for BP and just bc it wasn’t nominated, in turn not winning, I don’t think it’s any less significant in the cinematic landscape. Some folks attach awards to quality - I do not. That’s my point.
Also, don’t even get me started on all of the makeup acting wins over the years, which further proves my point about awards not actually being that significant as a measure of quality.
You're so right. The Oscars have become way too political. Though I find it ironic that most people say they don't care about the Oscars, but they would either tune in to hate watch or make memes about it when the best thing to do is just not give them any attention. So in some weird way they still sort of care just not a way the Academy wants you to.
Exactly. They’re rubbish but people gobble it up so who’s stupider?
@@ruly8153 If not the memes about that slap, I wouldn't even know there were Oscars this year
yes the Oscars don't matter but it's nice when the things that deserve it actually get recognition (Deakins winning for cinematography, Parasite's sweep etc). The virtue signaling does make my eyes roll all the way back to my asscrack, but I still watch every year, I just don't take them that seriously anymore
You are correct that it was around the mid-2010s where the Oscars started to decline. Or whenever the Weinstein scandal happened I think in 2017. All of a sudden, these actors who won Oscars because of Weinstein and knew of his exploits acted like they hated him all along. Then you have the new rules the Academy put in recently to only nominate films that meet their diversity requirements. It had to have this many minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc. It was no longer about artistic value and storytelling anymore. It's all about pandering and virtue signaling. The ratings of last year's Oscars don't lie. When Glenn Close twerking was the highlight of the entire show, you know it's bad. People are done with it. I remember when the Oscars was an event in my house. Now it's like "Oh, the Oscars were tonight?"
The Oscar’s started being bad waaaaay before 2017. They went downhill before I was born, before you were born (unless you’re 70).
Interesting to note that George C Scott famously refused the Oscar nomination for Patton, just as he had done for his nomination in 1962 for The Hustler. Even though he won for Patton, he became the first to reject his award stating, "The whole thing is a goddamn meat parade. I don't want any part of it." - Scott believed that every dramatic performance was unique and could not be compared to others. Out of all the arguments against the giving of awards for performance, I agree with that part. The same goes for music awards, or any other thing that can be deemed as an art form. How can you measure subjective experience? Especially if such art is lobbied and campaigned through a funded push for persuasion which negates the concept that such things as film can be regarded as art.
Beautifully put! The Oscars are merely a platform for narcissism - virtue signaling is just another shallow ploy. For years they've been a glided turd - now they're not even gilded - they just put a sprinkle of fool's gold on top. Anyone with any kind of b.s. detector will find it repugnant. Just recently watched Ken Russell's The Devils (would love to see you review it if you can get a regional copy that plays in U.S - one's available in South Korea). This film is very political and also surreal and subversive - it would never get made today. It's also very appropriate for what's going on these days as to who are the real "devils" - something that's also timeless. Keep up the great work - love your honesty and guts.
I love this channel. I agree on the Weinstein topic. The sad thing is that he’s actually just one of many. He just had more credentials. Hollywood is a dark place.
Absolutely right, there. Just like Ricky Gervais said at the 2020 Golden Globes about Weinstein, and Epstein as well. ' They were your friends, not mine!' It was great to see him roasting this entire audience of politically correct people, smiling with all perfectly white teeth for the cameras, and who, once the show was over, probably went back to doing a line in the toilets, or whatever the fuck they do in there:) And I'm not a prude or a moral watchdog or anything like that, but guys, practice what you damn preach, at least! :) Have some dignity and self-respect.
I really can't get enough of it. Very educational
Hi, I just found your channel and I wanted to say that you do a really great job with your videos. I’m so impressed that one person can know so much about film and the film industry.
Your videos are brilliant. Sincerity and honesty are fading qualities and traits in our art.
So glad that as deep as you are into that world, you can still think for yourself, and speak about it in addition.. Love your channel
This is great, btw. Love someone who can state the obvious. That sounds mean -- I don't mean it that way. I mean -- you'd be surprised how hard it is to say what is obvious to everyone when you are inside the bubble of the Oscars, as I am. You would not believe how hard it is simply to get this basic concept across about lecturing...
The thing I like most about the awards is that there are some films that, for a brief time, can gain a little of the spotlight, whether they have a chance of winning or not. Just yesterday, I first heard about a film called Flee which sounded very interesting, and was the first film to be nominated for Best Animated Feature, Best Documentary Feature, and Best Foreign Language Feature in the history of the awards. It may not win any of them, but I will definitely seek it out, and may not have if it had not been given this recognition.
this vid flew by. very well done!!
I knew there was a reason I really liked you. I agree with everything you said in this video! Thank you so much for presenting it as eloquently as you did! Thank You!!! Thank You!!!
Hit the nail on the head. Nicely articulated breakdown.
People would watch the Oscars if Ricky Gervais hosted them and roasted Hollywood like there's no tomorrow.
I agree fully, these nominations and all the hoopla around them is pretentious. Also yes, the whole Weinstein situation is absolutely disgusting...ah,we are getting aggravated
Thank you, Sasha. Much of what you say reminds me of why I have gradually lost my fandom of the Oscars and other acting award shows.
sasha? her name is maggie
Thanks for the insight Maggie!
Thank you for such a well-considered and introspective video. First rate, just like all your brilliant film reviews :)
Great. Thank you for perfectly putting into words what many of us are thinking
Hey just wanted to let you know I'm a new subscriber and I'm really digging the content and your takes. Everything you said here was true.
OKAY. Thank you. Your first positive point sums up the only reason I watch the Academy Awards. I do watch the ceremony mainly because at one time I did have that dream. Now it seems I enjoy making, I guess someone would call, “heckling remarks” at the apparent facade of the Hollywood system that I can see now that I’ve matured a bit. A lost cause for sure, but I still hate-watch. I ask myself, ‘why?’ Your video has reminded me to seriously reevaluate what I put ANY of my time into.
You really almost cracked there at the end 🤣
Very brave crystal clear point of view! Congrats!🙏
Haha...
I loved how you ended the video...
" Glen close twirking on video...thats tge Oscar's "
😆
Perfect.
"Movies that feel like PSA's" see Don't Look Up.
I enjoy this channel and your view about cinema and the meta narrative around it
My sister used to work for the Oscars. She was smart to get out when she did but she just moved to the Emmys which is just as afflicted with this cancer. I believe the Emmys also had a record low viewership last year.
i can't adequately express how happy this video made me 👏🙏👏
Your expression at the end bit about Glen Close said it all. 🤣
Just like Bill Murray said in Meatballs, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter!!
I love this Channel
My goodness me you are the only person who communicates this.
100% on point. Oblivious or obstinate
Wow, you are both passionate and also very angry at the system... and I can relate so much! What you talk about is a problem everywhere! The corporate world also uses diversity as window dressing mostly... It made me depressed and now I feel resigned! Thank you for your passion!!
This is amazing and raw Maggie, best CZcams channel ✨👌✨🤙✨
This has aged beautifully.
Thank you for your perspective on the various kinds of propaganda and hypocrisy in the film industry, with which I wholeheartedly agree.
Also, as one who was raised almost exclusively on blockbuster films, I should also thank you for opening up my perspective on a vast range of movies and artistry previously utterly unknown to me. Please keep your great work!
You are so amazing maggie!
PREACH!!
Nailed it!
I totally agree with you on this.
I started watching the Oscars in 2009 (for the films of 2008), when Slumdog Millionaire won. That was a great show.
It is the "snubbing" that kills the Academy Awards. If you don't make the list, who says you are entitled to an Oscar nomination?
If Hitchcock never won an Oscar, then I am sure J-Lo getting "snubbed" is no biggie. 😷
I remember when the Oscars used to an event. "Shoving agendas down our throat". Well, they've always have done that, but at least they used casting, writing, character development etc., instead of making a movie one long PSA.
As someone who has loved award winning films for decades, I’m watching the rapidly accelerating deterioration of credibility. Twitter campaigns and big studio promos have dominated the last couple of seasons, and have culminated in the aggrandizement of films like 12-Oscar nominated The Power of the Dog. The agenda-driven nature of the industry referenced here unfortunately taints something we all love: cinema.
Nailed it. 👏🏽
Im hoping that this years Oscars at least are entertaining, but im going with low expectations.
Great video Maggie and take care and stay safe 👍.
Right on!
When Saving Private Ryan lost to Shakespeare In Love I knew the oscars didn't matter, hammered it home.
Nah
You are excusing like 20 awful decisions at a minimum before that.
Also spare us that that "war is just" propaganda should have been awarded for anything
@@kostajovanovic3711 yeah many other examples I’m sure, and no one saying war is just lol chill pill in order.
@@kostajovanovic3711 are you okay? Do we need to call someone to pick you up, buddy?
Excellent summing up of this subject. Very incisive. You make the difficult seem so easy to pronounce on. You're too unknown and undervalued. I don't know anyone who can analyse the movie scene with such utter panache.
just drink beer & listen to Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
nice video maggie - these things need to be said - one thing that always struck me about acceptance speeches is that almost no one thanks the movie-going public as if we do not exist - you can count the exceptions on one hand - the makers of toy story did it - i think john wayne did it when he finally won a late career oscar - brie larson thanked the moviegoers when she won in 2015 - but the vast majority of these selfcentered people just thank whoever personally helped them and/or lecture us on lthe virtues left wing politics
call it like you see it. props!
Great great video. I’m a film buff from the old days, 80s and 90s, and my interest in new movies is legitimately compromised. Don’t Look Up was one of the worst, ugliest, and most nihilistic pieces of garbage I’ve ever seen, and its nominated for Best Picture! Regardless your opinion of that film, I think we can all agree it would never have been nominated 10 years ago. The absence of real values and principles, not a virtue signaling popularity contest, is clear. I agree I don’t see this moving in a different direction as of yet. Hopefully it does. We shall see.
LOL, Don't look up ought to sweep the razzies if they're still around.
Even matrix resurrection had significantly sharper wit and more depth than that excruciatingly boring preachy trash. I don't even necessarily disagree with its message and I found it unbearable.
@@robnjosnavelin3496 Hilarious. I heard the Matrix Resurrections was awful. I didn't even waste my time with it. I should've done the same with Don't Look Up! Lol.
It never fails to annoy me when I see a comment saying that this person or this film "should have been nominated" or "deserved an Oscar" or "got robbed." It's amazing how so many people still think the Oscars are relevant.
Your perspective is always appreciated, Maggie. I'd love to see you continue to make topical discussion videos about the movie industry like this one as supplementary content to your great reviews
A delightfully apropos elucidation of the inherent meta-logic used to refine the motion picture industry down to enriched white rice. Your insights regarding the Oscar minimization based on prefabricated didactics is refreshing. Someone should make a movie about Hegel's life. In it, we can see the dialectic between acclaim, intelligence, rivalry, and his mistreatment of illegitimate son, plus political upheaval, Napoleon, Goethe, becoming a philosophical superstar and turning into Goethe's Faust for real. All aspects of politics, relationships, rivalries could be shown... but will such a piece which would intrinsically display current issues be made when the veil of prepubescent habit becomes the anchor for Hollywood? Not in this climate of State supported conformist entertainment. I am quite impressed with your Insights and reflective analysis here as well as your other film critiques. Very well done!
I am against any award
Great video agreed with everything you said
thumbs up for the title alone
Ending tho 😂😂
That's the Oscars 💥💥
Well said
I agree 100%, but if Dune doesn't win best picture, I'm gonna lose my shit.
One of the reasons last year's Oscars went down in ratings was it was held in a VFW hall.
...they should do that next year
Very astute take, thank you. I used to enjoy the Oscars as cheesy fun and a guide who what films I missed over the year that might be worth catching up on. But its unwatchable now, totally cringeworthy. Everyone desperate to appear to be within that Overton window that gets narrower and narrower, and further away from what most people are interested in watching. And its even sadder that mainstream critics feel they have to fall in line. The universal praise for some very mediocre films that simply tick off a number of boxes is very telling (and somehow they don't seem to realise that people are noticing this and ignoring the critics even more).
I'd love to know what you have to say about Ricky Gervais's 2020 Golden Globes, DFL.
This is pretty reductive and a generalisation. Many many people who have won Oscars have “struggled “
And plenty of people who have won Oscars aren’t just “virtual signalling” but genuinely have dedicated their lives to changing the world.
Also, we really have no idea how celebrities use their money, so it’s not up to anyone to judge.
But I do agree with much of this.
There is one overriding principle in "Hollywood". You can never admit that you are just extremely fortunate, with flaws that are common to the rest of society. In other words, you are a hero, and people should recognize that that you are special. This is why they can be preachy. They believe, deep down, that they are better than us because they get payed to do nothing more complicated than engage in make-believe.
This is a very random comment. I do not wish to be a pest, but I was wondering if you were ever going to review any of the following films;
The Tenant 1976: you have previously(a long time ago) reviewed Repulsion and Rosemarys baby. Personally this film has always been my favourite of the three. I simply find myself connecting to this deeply personal horror of Kafkaesque proportions.
Similarly, another Kafkaesque gem would be After Hours. I’ve seen some other request this one, so I think it would be a hit if you did it.
I’ve heard you talk about Nights Of Cabiria(one of my absolute favourite films), but I have never heard you talk about some later Fellini film. I would really like to know your thoughts on 81/2.
I would also love to hear your thoughts on a Kieslowski film and a Godard film. Also Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me(a very under appreciated work of Lynch)
Im sure you’ve seen both these films. Im simply very curious to know what you think of them.
This video and Ricky Gervais’ legendary Golden Globes 2020 opening monologue are the most accurate descriptions about the current rotten and pretentious state of Hollywood industry. Well said!!
I don't know how is it in the US, in my country the Oscar is still taken seriously.
I don't see the Oscar win as an artistic achievement but rather something that is important for the global recognition of the films in the country.
Yes, finally someone said it 🙏🏽
well-said.
Please do a review of The Hand Of God! I'm realy curious as to what your opinion on it is
Give a review on Euphoria and the acting really curious on what you think!
I definitely agree with everything you said but also another reason why nobody cares about the awards is because people have different taste, no matter what movie wins the award 99% of people are not going to agree with it because it’s not what they felt deserves to win that award. I stopped watching those types of award shows when I was like 10 years old in the early 90s because the movies I like wasn’t winning and still to this day movies I like don’t win so therefore I don’t agree with them and the majority of people are just like me.
well said girl!
Love the dress 🌹
I've only watched a couple of Oscar's broadcasts in my life. I find award shows to be a bit boring in general, but that's just me. I agree with everything you've said in this video.
Would love to know your thoughts on alexander Payne’s seminal election.
If I had a time machine I’d whisk u to the Oscar’s n back to finish this vid. The focus of ur comments would still b relevant but Whew!
You seem like a cool and intelligent person. I enjoy your channel.
That is all, good day.
Consider doing a video on good campy movies, not to be confused with bad campy movies. Two of my favorites would be psycho beach party and beyond the valley of the Dolls. Believe it or not I consider live and let die a good campy movie.
I feel exactly the same. I, too, have a love-hate relationship with the Academy Awards, and for reason.
Many of the greatest films ever made are either overlooked at the Oscars, or outright shunned. Sure, there are some things the Academy has done right, but it's no constant. Sure, an Oscar nomination or even a win is an achievement in itself and a proven career-booster (more often than not)... but, that being said, Oscar or not, you're only as good as your last picture, sociopolitical ambition aside. I can't stress that enough.
It's not well-known that one of the AMPAS' founding members was Louis B. Mayer, who was not only the chief executive of what once was the largest, most lauded, and most powerful film studio in the world but was Chairman of the California Republican Party---so the Academy is going to be conservative and, consequentially, elitist by design. The statuette itself was designed by the head of MGM's own art department.
The Academy Awards are, at best, a middle-of-the-road, centrist, showbiz-centric affair. They almost always have been. So many of the greatest artists that ever got in front of, or behind, a camera, don't get the recognition due them. Neither Kubrick; nor Welles; nor Kurosawa; nor Tarkovsky; nor Antonioni; nor The Archers ever won an Oscar for directing. Pulp Fiction lost Best Picture to Forrest Gump (not that it's a bad film, but Pulp Fiction is very much the stronger of the two). Similarly, Max Fleischer never won an Oscar for his cartoons. His adaptation of Superman is still an absolute masterpiece of animation. As much recognition as the Academy heaped upon Disney (26 wins out of 59 nominations, STILL an all-time record), his first five animated features should have been no-brainer Best Picture contenders but were not even nominated in that category.
I could go on, but I don't have to.
A good example of diverse political movies that come from a genuine place is Sean Bakers films, who ironically gets snubbed at the Oscars every time.
I agree. Red Rocket was my favorite film this year. Sean Baker's films are always so full of heart and a genuine love for his characters and subjects. I believe someday he will get the recognition he deserves.
My hot take on why the Oscars are no longer interesting is because the studios have created a market in which people only watch big budget blockbusters but the Oscars ignore them.
I'm not here to argue they should be handing Oscars to the MCU but they need to create a situation in which it's possible the best picture winner could also be among the biggest box office draws of the years.
A lot of people will eventually see the best picture nominees but not in theatres. Instead they'll wait for streaming because they don't feel films like Belfast are worth the cost of theatre tickets, snacks, gas money and even potentially a baby sitter so they wait for streaming or TV.
I'm rambling but my basic point by pushing blockbusters all year round the studios have made it that the best picture nominees never fully enter the public consciousness and if they do its after the ceremony
Last time I watched the Oscars... the gamecube was a new console.
They should reduce the running time to an hour and mention the remaining awards in final credits
Good video. The Oscars are so overrated. I hope Dune cleans up
Which is it?
@@kostajovanovic3711 I choose both
@@johnwatkins9383 so we get null
I hate the Oscars for the most part, but I would be lying if I said I didn’t do a happy dance when Parasite walked away with four wins a couple years ago
I'd like to see a video on great political movies
On the subject of Harvey Weinstein, today 2 years ago was when Ricky Gervais called out the golden globes and all that nonsense, I thought that was brilliant. Tom hanks Face 😆
That was Golden Globes, Oscars will never let someone like Ricky host he will rip them apart 🤣
@@mdm9389 thanks haha I get those mixed up