Cafe Racer Build 29, Suzuki GS550 Installing a Dynatek Dyna S electronic ignition system
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- In this video we install the Dynatek Dyna S Electronic ignition system on the Suzuki GS550 Cafe Racer project.
I explain the simple steps to installing the kit and reducing any points troubles or issues that may come up.
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forget those other comments .. keep up the in-depth mechanical content. those are the people that rather pay a mechanic to build their bike... keep the great content coming
Much prefer these videos to the top 5 stuff, but there are so many more people that are not mechanically minded! I'm going to go this route on my CB175 with the electronic points. Keep going!
Thank you., it's well worth it.
Keep up the in depth mechanical content, I have a similar carb issue with my 1983 gs 550 on number 3 pot.
+j sturgess I originally thought it was the float height but after setting that and swapping the needle to another carb I'm now certain it's the gloat needle.
For The Bold - dreegez my bike had been sitting in the garage for 16 yrs, so had to clean carbs found the o rings on float needles had perished so replaced them also the needles needed freeing from crud! Still doesn't run for long and lumpy due in part to 3rd cylinder not firing, I'm going to take carbs off again clean and inspect, thinking also problem might be caused by leaking inlet boots and o rings.
It's all about the journey!, don't skip anything!
Compelling stuff, keep up the great work!
Because of you i bought myself a 1979 gs550e. And yess its also turning into a café racer. Keep up the good work. I hope you get it to run soon....greetz from the netherlands. Luuk.
+Luuk Potkamp great stuff. I hope it goes wel
More mechanical stuffs, for sure! It's the journey too, not just the destination, people!
Thanks, I feel it's important to show all aspects of building, so many videos out there that show the start and end and not the struggles inbetween.
Excellent work man, im actually starting to work on a 79 gs550 so these videos have been fantastic! keep up all the in depth stuff, all the complainers can skip the good videos and just watch the ones where the bike is running!
Thanks for watching and your support. Good luck with yours.
I'm glad you did valve shim videos and such. Have same bike I'm rebuilding and you've helped out immensely.
Amazing, glad to hear they help in some way. even if they're just pointers.
Great this video it's gonna be so usefully, I just got my dyna s ignition system on the mail for my '77 cb750.
Great video. I've had my dynatek for a year and it's preformed flawlessly. I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Good luck with the jetting I think your very close.👍🏽
+Rob Green great to hear. Not too far I don't think. Just such a pain having to wait for the parts to arrive
Nice mix up always great to see how the mechanics work...Some of us on not quite wizz mechanics yet but these tips get us closer and give us the confidence to rebuild stuff...Nice.
Same here, it's all a learning curve when it's coming to these carbs and re-jetting.
Nice shirt! We're on fire at the moment, but they are getting things under control. I got a dynatek electronic ignition for my r75/5 about 2 years ago...It's still in the box in my kitchen. This video reminded me that I should probably install it, but I've been pretty busy on my k-bike project. I think I'll give the old /5 some love soon though. I wouldn't worry too much about the comment section, make the videos that you want to make, and the audience will sort itself out. Cheers
+furnimaker it's terrible what's happening with the fires. Hope you get round to installing your kit
Nice Job! I am trying to tune my carburetors at the moment. Fun stuff.
Thanks, good luck with it, I feel your pain.
This is good stuff. I myself have suffered through the unf@cking of a '79 GS850G with VM carbs and cooked points. Your vids are well done, informative, and a pleasure to watch.
Glad you enjoy them
I remember when you were at vlog bearly starting keep the good job
Yes! More mechanical and electronic whiz bangery haha Love these videos!
+Kenny Bowen it's the not so fun side of building but glad you like it
Well I'm a tinkerer so I enjoy that part of it. I mainly want to get a bike now and build a scrambler so I can spend my winter fiddling with the carbs and tuning it to be the most precise possible! I have had to rebuild a few tractor carbs in the past and I had a blast tuning them up haha
+Kenny Bowen I'm glad you do. It needs patience that's for sure to work on them. And sounds like you may have access to fields if you were to build a scrambler
Haha yea the mixture screws take the most time to work out. But I love the sound of a properly tuned engine! And yep! I live in Kansas in the U.S. so there are plenty of fields for me to go in...and some big sand dunes a few hours away from where I live haha
Great job explaining without over explaining
Thanks
Lovin the builds dude
+AUSSIE pie thanks. Glad you do
Thanks mate. Another great vid. Cheers
+Sean Hunt thanks
fantastic video, mate
Thanks
heyhey, i have a gs550 too, thinking about a dyna system, just a quick question, the dyna systems seem to have 3 wires coming off them where as my original points only have 2, is the third just an earth?, thanks :D
YEEEEEEEEEE HAA at last great to see it running buddy
Running, not 100% but it's not a million miles away now.
Great video mate
+Jordan Capel thanks
Saludos desde México!!!
+DARK ZERO hi Mexico
@forthebold do I order the DS2-1 or DS3-1? Thanks!
Hello.....I have the same motorcycle...these captors don't have CDI?
Can u please do an in depth dive into how you wire your motorcycles? I know a lot of people are intimidated by electrical systems, myself included and it would help a lot to see it happen rather than taking about it
Thanks, I'm enjoying these videos, have you ever considered digital speedos. I have just bought one for my Daytona 1998 T595, which I've made naked but the oem instruments are too big for its naked state. They seem tricky to match wires. Any plans in the future to got from analogue to digital?
I have, I've looked into them and looked into analogue/ digital converters that are available out there, for the GS I'll remain mechanical but perhaps for the CX.
Friend thanks for the video.
but I wanted to know where you connected the cables of the Dynas board
Thanls
Best is to go off your diagram
Great video, I have just finished installing the same ignition on my gs550, and was wondering what coils you are using?
I'm just using aftermarket replacement coils made for a GS550, not enough pocket money available for the dyna coils.
Okay, and you are satisfied with the aftermarket ones? Can you change the leads on yours, or is it like the original where your have to buy a new coil if the leads crack? (Your videos is a big help)
Nice work, where are you getting your jets from?? Can't seem to find anywhere to get them. I have the same set up but with 4 into 1 exhaust system. Thanks
+Sacha Scurlock try eBay if you're stuck. A lot of reputable motorcycle stockists use that
I'll see you riding the evo triangle soon then?
Heya, did you have to find 12v switched for this kit? I'm putting one on my gs750, and I'm having a hell of a time trying to find the source between the coils the instructions told me to use.
No nothing needed to change on this, a straight plug and play.
Good afternoon dear friend.
First of all, your videos are very good and explanatory.
I have a 1981 Suzuki GS850 that I transformed into a caferacer style. I think I have problems with the set-up (distribution chain). You have a PDF file of that procedure that you can share with me. Thanks from Chile.
Sorry, I don't have any pdfs, but there should be some on the GS forums.
How did you hook up the wires from the Dyna S to the coils. Specifically the use of the extra red wire that came with the Dyna kit.
I followed the instructions but all the wires made sense on this one.
Hi, at 6:50 your only setting the timing right for 2 of the cylinders, I think you should have rotated the mounting plate for both pick-ups.
At that second stage I'm only adjusting cylinders 2&3 as 1&4 had been set up correctly with the plate.
Ok, did not know.
Can you install these Dyna kits on 650's? My ignitor is shit, and I can't find any cheap replacements. I was told they basically just connect to you coils, and everything is done.
I’m sure you can
Is the extra red wire a positive or a negative hook up?
I'd refer to the diagram as each bike could be different.
Hi just asking what is dyna ignition and its doesn't need CDi support? Tq
Dyna ignition just replaces your old fashioned mechanical points with new digital points, no CDI on this bike.
I wish they were available in the 1970s. The high revving two strokes were notorious for eating pistons if your timing and or gaps were out!
+OldManTony I can imagine.
Hey quick Question ... is your front tire mounted in the correct direction?
yeah it's got the arrows pointing the right way, but it's not staying, I'm going to put a better tyre on.
Hi, really enjoy your vids man. Just wanted to know, will this ignition system work on a gs850l? If do, where could I get it. I'm in Cape Town, South Africa. Thanks, regards.
You should be able to get a kit for most bikes.
What about the part where you have spice the red wire into the coils? That's the part I don't fully understand.
I can remember doing it but I can’t remember the pathway. But it’s needed.
did GS550 had almost the same parts as a suzuki 750GT? where did u buy the parts
The parts are from all over the globe. when it comes to things like clip on bars and levers they're pretty much universal.
Does the dyna tech work with any engine size?
You can get specific Dynateck kits for specific bikes.
So the idea to get it to run at the correct mixture at idle is to go up in size at your main jets? Why not the pilot/slow jets? Those mostly control the idle circuit air/fuel mixture. Main controls WOT
+FooDude2011 main jets don't control the idle. Slow jets and circuits. The thinking behind increasing the main jet is that it's still bogging when opening quickly and that popping you hear is running lean. I can get it to idle until the float needle is right so that's where I'll start playing with the colortune
For The Bold - dreegez yep that makes more sense. Nice!
Would this work on a GS425 I wonder?
I’d take a chance on saying there’s a Dynatek kit for it
hello friend can you tell me what size of jets you put?
There’s a specific jetting video in this series.
Tem pra Suzuki gsxr 1100
Usaste las bobinas originales? Instale este encendido en mi moto y las bobinas se calientan mucho
I replaced them too but coils will get fairly hot.
@@forthebold thanks!!!!
i just restored a 1973 Suzuki Gt185, i am looking for a electronic ignition timing kit to replace the condensers and points. Do you have any good suggestions, i cannot find any anywhere?
I would try dynatek
@@forthebold Thank you for the tip, i have contacted them, but they don't make it for this bike 😞
I'm putting this into my gs project when you insert the magnet your looks like the rim is just above the 2 lugs for nut washer as mine does but when I tighten this up with the bolt magnet won't move to push the spring loaded weights have ordered new bolt and nut did you have this issue ?
I did but I made a tiny spacer that fitted behind the nut and didn’t squash the magnet any more
@@forthebold nice one what did you use did u trim down a n 8mm washer or mak ur own ?
Yeah trimmed a washer and had it glued into place before tightening the nut. Just to hold it in place until it tightened.
@@forthebold cheers chap ur brains a goldmine lol I'm off back to shed to sort one out .👍
Id rather watch the build and everything that comes with it.
so does this eliminate the ecm unit?
It does yes
Will it work with two stroke?
Same principal if you have one for your bike
Dreegez do you have a link to the colourtune you used?
+them16s I'll put it up in the description
Link is now up.
Thanks mate, brilliant
If you were to rate this product, what would you rate it? I’m considering redoing my entire electrical system refresh and upgrades. This has come up a couple times in searches.
10 out of 10, best system upgrade, and if you're running a pulse with CDI you can get rid of the CDI
@@forthebold Really late follow up here, but I'm finally getting to doing this to my gs1100g in an effort to slow myself down on my e36 build. So here's my question; Do you know of anyone running a fully keyless setup on a cafe racer build? When I do mine will I be the first?
No unfortunately there are a lot of keyless bikes out there. But all depends on safety?
@@forthebold does the dyna s require the continued use of the ignitor box or does it bypass it?
@@deltacharlieecho4732 It'll bypass the CDI.
Hello, are CDI module is required here?
No, the Dynatek is for elimination of CDI
@@forthebold thank you
Don’t go crazy with jets. I can almost guarantee the stock jet is correct. Have you adjusted the idle air screw. And if it’s only lean at idle I isn’t your main jets.
I think you are the worlds unluckiest guy when it comes to carbs. Good progress though and the bike looks great! Cant wait to see it done and running properly.
+Daniel Thompson ha. These have been the worst. I think it's due to them having been sitting since 1995. We'll get there
I've only got 2 wires a yellow and a black my dyna s has 3 white, red and black. Help
Ok. First question is how many cylinders does your bike have?
@@forthebold 4 cylinder gs550e
In that case you should have the right number of wires. Only reason I asked was in case it was a 1 cylinder bike. Best way is to trace the wires from the ignition coils . You’ll have to unravel the loom to see. Also was the bike running a cdi with a pulse or originally points?
@@forthebold hi its points just not sure we're to put the 3rd wire
From memory (which was about 3 years ago) black and white wheat directly to the coils and the red went to a 12v source and your positives of the coils. But check your diagram abs instructions that came with your dynatek
Keep me coming build 100 of em lol
Too true.
Where to get that?
You can get it from Dime City Cycles
@@forthebold can i order online?
Yes you can if you go to he Dime City Cycles website
@@forthebold i got in but unable to find ignition column
I tried to put this onto my 550. When i put the new rotor on and tighten the hex bolt,the rotor gets pinched by the bolt and the rotor wont advance. I noticed that there is a washer on the plate that the old rotor sat on. Do I have to remove the washer so the rotor sits lower on the shaft? Alternative would be to shave a bit from the top of the rotor? You can see that the new rotor sits just a little bit too high on the shaft.
I had the same issue. I just cut up 2 pieces of card to use as a spacer glued them in place. Then gave it room to advance under load
Hope my Instagram post here sheds light on how I sorted it instagram.com/p/BaEM2Ouh9IN/?igshid=12wsto0omyrqh
@@forthebold ...I may take the washer out.thanks.
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Screw the people who don't want to see the mechanical stuff, clearly they arent really that interested
Your jets need to be a lot bigger, i ride a 1982 gsx400f and the size of my main jets are 125. Just so you know.
All depends with altitude and exhaust also. I’m running a 4-2 exhaust at sea level. Check out my newest videos on this. Bikes running perfect with those jets. Any more and it would be too rich I’d say.
I remember having to do something with the ballast resistor when I installed a dyna ignition on an old Goldwing many years ago. Also I have uploaded my very first video today and would love your input as I value your opinion czcams.com/video/9lVfxuMd9I8/video.html I really like your production quality
Why don't you order a small drill bit kit and drill out your jets until you get yourself in the right place? Otherwise you up with a fistful of jets that don't work and constantly have to wait for shipping.
+Mark Stevens that sounds so dangerous. Personally I wouldn't like to drill jets because the difference in sizes are barely visible to the eye and I can't see any drill bits (I have) being as accurate for the job.
Atoplee Semi-automatic Mini Hand Drill Chuck Micro Twist Hobby Craft Jewelers Hand Tool + 20pcs 0.3-1.6mm Twist Drill Bits Set www.amazon.ca/dp/B01G1JCFTW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_RxP5zbEME0SCX
This works pretty good. Just hold the drill and slowly spin the jet onto the bit.
Everyone skips the wiring! The 42year old bike is not a perfect plug and play and no one bothers to explain that part. Ugh