I really appreciated your clarity and understanding of Rand's works. I'm glad this interview was done, it's so good to hear an intelligent, rational analysis.
You probably already know Tore Boeckmann's essays, but track all his talks and essays down if you haven't already. His further illumination on what Rand was doing is fantastic.
Ayn Rand has been in popular culture for more than 75 years. Are there any good fiction writers that used her work as a bases that you could point to. What is a good example of objectivist fiction other that Rand?
There is a lot of popular fiction inspired by Ayn Rand. The first that comes to mind is The Incredibles (2004). This movie adopts a lot of her themes and esthetics, as well as the fact that Edna is likely a representation of Ayn Rand. Zack Snyder is another person who is very inspired by Rand, primarily her esthetics. Frank Miller, the comic book writer who basically brought the superhero genre back to the popular light in the late 80s was very inspired by Ayn Rand. In many respects, Ayn Rand inspiring Frank Miller, has lead to the huge success of superhero movies today (which I don't think she would be so thrilled about). While on comic books, Steve Ditiko was one of Stan Lee's closest partners in the early days of Marvel comics. He was an objectivist and had a huge role in creating characters such as Spider-man, Hulk, Dr Strange. It is a little controverisal who was really most responsible of Ditko and Lee, but Ditko had a major part in it.
@@henrikknightingale Interesting. But most films and stories you mention are, critically, highly divisive. Zack Snyder, Frank Miller and Terry Goodkind are anything but acclaimed storytellers.
That would be rather difficult: on the one side would be the host arguing painting should have meaning; and on the other, the postmodernist exclaiming, "Say what? I thought your invitation was to a conference an cats!" (It's an inside art joke.)
I like your set, very evocative, but Ayn Rand and comic books? Losts of labels thrown around. I knew one of the editors of Random House who told me during a meeting when they were suggesting she shorten one of her books, Rand said, "Would you shorten the Sermon on the Mount?" Sadly, she was being serious. Enough said. I'll sit back and enjoy Tolstoy (not realist or modernist or post-modernist or whatever--just Tolstoy).
If, as they discussed, she had a purpose for everything that was still in the book after she'd done her own editing, and knew that taking something out would ruin important parts that lead to the conclusion of the entire work, then she would be absolutely right to have that view. You seem to be criticising her for being passionate and clear about her own work, and not being willing to compromise the integrity of the work for an arbitrary goal.
Most of the tenets of her Objectivism have been kind of flatten by quantum physics and the role of consciousness in the fabric of reality. I find her ideals more like an egocentric trip than anything else. Plus just look around and see what capitalism has done for the world… we are just cooking the planet with the 1% laughing to the bank🙄
Thank you for having me on!
I really appreciated your clarity and understanding of Rand's works. I'm glad this interview was done, it's so good to hear an intelligent, rational analysis.
You probably already know Tore Boeckmann's essays, but track all his talks and essays down if you haven't already. His further illumination on what Rand was doing is fantastic.
Ayn Rand has been in popular culture for more than 75 years. Are there any good fiction writers that used her work as a bases that you could point to.
What is a good example of objectivist fiction other that Rand?
There is a lot of popular fiction inspired by Ayn Rand. The first that comes to mind is The Incredibles (2004). This movie adopts a lot of her themes and esthetics, as well as the fact that Edna is likely a representation of Ayn Rand. Zack Snyder is another person who is very inspired by Rand, primarily her esthetics. Frank Miller, the comic book writer who basically brought the superhero genre back to the popular light in the late 80s was very inspired by Ayn Rand. In many respects, Ayn Rand inspiring Frank Miller, has lead to the huge success of superhero movies today (which I don't think she would be so thrilled about). While on comic books, Steve Ditiko was one of Stan Lee's closest partners in the early days of Marvel comics. He was an objectivist and had a huge role in creating characters such as Spider-man, Hulk, Dr Strange. It is a little controverisal who was really most responsible of Ditko and Lee, but Ditko had a major part in it.
Terry Goodkind was a self-proclaimed Objectivist.
@@ixatla And he sure knew how to write dramatic conflicts. I enjoyed his works.
@@henrikknightingale Interesting. But most films and stories you mention are, critically, highly divisive. Zack Snyder, Frank Miller and Terry Goodkind are anything but acclaimed storytellers.
Ratatouille.
I think it you hosted a conversation with a postmodernist art history scholar it would be extremely productive and engaging content!
That would be rather difficult: on the one side would be the host arguing painting should have meaning; and on the other, the postmodernist exclaiming, "Say what? I thought your invitation was to a conference an cats!" (It's an inside art joke.)
@@yutu49 Purr-fection
I like your set, very evocative, but Ayn Rand and comic books? Losts of labels thrown around. I knew one of the editors of Random House who told me during a meeting when they were suggesting she shorten one of her books, Rand said, "Would you shorten the Sermon on the Mount?" Sadly, she was being serious. Enough said. I'll sit back and enjoy Tolstoy (not realist or modernist or post-modernist or whatever--just Tolstoy).
If, as they discussed, she had a purpose for everything that was still in the book after she'd done her own editing, and knew that taking something out would ruin important parts that lead to the conclusion of the entire work, then she would be absolutely right to have that view. You seem to be criticising her for being passionate and clear about her own work, and not being willing to compromise the integrity of the work for an arbitrary goal.
@@Ron_Robertson Very well said, spares me the trouble, thank you.
Most of the tenets of her Objectivism have been kind of flatten by quantum physics and the role of consciousness in the fabric of reality. I find her ideals more like an egocentric trip than anything else. Plus just look around and see what capitalism has done for the world… we are just cooking the planet with the 1% laughing to the bank🙄
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