Before I moved out on my own to a studio, I was blinded by my sins. Being addicted to pornography was one of them. I always believed in Jesus, but I dont think I was truly born again until about 2 years ago. When I moved out on my own, I found a Bible that I had packed. (My family owned many Bibles, but I never really read the Bible growing up). It was a New Living Translation Bible. I began reading and God really spoke to my heart. He convicted me of my sins and taught me how to have a personal relationship with Him. I developed a more prayerful life and a new desire to read His word. I now have a new desire to follow Jesus and surrender everything to Him. Though I slip into sin, the Holy Spirit guides me to ask for forgiveness and to put my eyes back on Jesus. I believe God used the time I spent alone living in my studio to get to really know Him through His word, and the Bible I read was the New Living Translation....I believe God speaks to people in different ways and not just through only one translation.
Really weird reading this comment, its liking reading my own comment. Literally the last two years of my life verbatim, down to the NLT bible I found that I packed when I moved out, which I started reading from being alone.
@I Sanchez Hey my friend, wow really? Yah...im not sure your family's exact beliefs or much about the Pentacostal denomination....but there are unfortunately many people who "practice" religion under the title Christian, but their hearts are far from God. Jesus said we can know people by their spiritual fruit.....what matters is if someone is truly born again...that they are a new creation in Christ. Im sorry of the situation you are in...ill definitely be praying for you...whatever situation youre in right now, God can use it for good in the future...seek Him and read His word, and ask God for direction...i will be praying for you....it is very sad corruption has filled our churches...seems to be getting worse
Hello friend! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I grew up in a KJVo church and nearly left the faith due to how they treated me when I asked questions. I was constantly shamed and struggled with doubt for years and even now I still struggle though I truly love God and want to serve Him to the best I am able. I thank God for His helping me to never fully lose faith in Him as I was struggling to free myself from my old KJV only church.
I am so sorry went through that. I also grew up in a KJVo church, and most in my family are KJVo. I will continue to pray for Christians like you who have been hurt by our brothers and sisters in Christ. I definitely understand.
Legalism will do that. Nearly 3 years later, I hope you are now even stronger in the faith now. Careful of those that will conflate law and gospel; and just know they're an extreme so not all churches behave this way. God bless.
@@mrobin1987 I'll be honest many KJVo people are genuinely saved so don't get me wrong. However, their idolatry of the KJV, at least on the extreme end, makes them apostate churches. They ALWAYS make KJV a salvation issue and always are self righteousness. We all know how Jesus and John the Baptist treated legalistic self righteous people. KJV *preference* is totally fine so that's not who I'm speaking about. I'm speaking of the looney toons that think if you know Greek/Hebrew you should learn English just to read the KJV.
Thank you Pastor Matt. I love my KJV and can't get enough of it. Have a few other translations that I use as cross reference and commentary. My hearts desire was to be able to understand and speak the KJV. I prayed about it. And I worked hard. And God gave me my hearts desire to get comfortable and know the KJV. I do illicit help from my commentaries when needed.(MacArthur, Sproul, Chuck Smith, Jamieson-Fausset-Brown, Nelson and Zondervan). Seek and Ye shall find. Keep up the great work Pastor Matt and thank you for your honesty and concern.
I really appreciate your gracious nature in this and other issues brother. KJVO, or holding onto the KJV for as long as we have, has harmed the TR position historically. I use the NKJV and the Greek text I use is the Textus Receptus. I love the KJV and I gladly preach from it, but there is a need for an update of the language.
I was born and raised in a KJVO church. Started reading from the NASB when I was 24 and it was life changing. I now enjoy about 7 different main translations- there’s something that I love and appreciate about all of them.
@@ChathuraImbulagoda scripture has been preserved through many different translations in many different languages. I’m blessed to have 7 different of those translations and read from each one. Some languages only have one translation. English speaking Christians are blessed with several different options. God has blessed us. The fact that I enjoy those translations is an added bonus.
There are the times when someone says something to you and you don't understand it. You ask them to repeat it. When they repeat it, it will probably be with different words, or expanded more, or detailed in some other way - and then you get it! Reading a variety of translations can have the same impact - simple!!
I use kjv only for witnessing. When I used different versions I had trouble quoting scripture. The other versions seem watered down compared to the kjv. When I was a new Christian my church switched from kjv, to nasb, to niv and so on. I had memorized in kjv and when witnessing I would quote a verse and then the other versions wouldn't say the same thing when I turn to the verse in their bible versions. Ted A.
Also if you point KJVO people to the preface of the 1611 they’ll become like crickets. The reason being the translators of the 1611 said in the preface if any more reliable or older manuscripts come along in the future that the English translation should be improved upon. Love it!
I've read the preface and they said no such thing. They plainly said there mark was one principal Bible not to be just expected against. They already knew of the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Bezae and rejected them both despite being very old. Even if that were true people who believe they have perfect word of God don't look to the authority of translators, but the providence of God. Apologist for modern versions are the ones look to the authority of Bruce Metzger,Daniel Wallace, DC Parker etc to tell them what Bible is.
Ye do greatly err, not knowing the scriptures neither the power of God! When Nebuchadrezzar king of babylon besieged the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Had Nebuchadrezzar known that he was doing the Lord’s will or that he was his servant? If thou knowest truly who the jesuits are, what they were made for and how they do things, how they function, one would come to the conclusion that they would not be used of God for they and their ways are contrary to God. But God hath used them to punish countries that rebelled against him and have done evil in the Lord’s sight. Ye foolishly think that because the translators are the ones to have written the translation, since they were the last visible thing to have been seen and to have formed the Authorized Book, ye believe that they are our final authority, ye think they are the roots that brought forth the tree of the King Book of books. Ye are nothing more than practicing atheists. It is only sight, what we can see, what we can handle (manuscripts, originals, the greek and hebrew and not faith that God perfectly preserved his words through sinful men).
Great video. I feel like this one needed to be made. It could definitely help a lot who are stuck in that movement. Your videos are a huge blessing Pastor!!
Thank you, Pastor Matt, for this great video. In the beginning, I wondered whether I agreed with your three-pronged definition of KJVO, but after the video I ended up agreeing. At first I thought the definition was far too extreme. However, I think now that it is actually very helpful and careful. Specifically, your definition of KJVO excludes those who hold to the superiority of the KJV yet do not hold to the idea that it is superior even to the Greek and Hebrew. It also excludes those who do not disparage people for using other translations. An excellent example of this kind of person is actually the man whose book you have lying on the desk behind you-Dr. Joel Beeke. He is someone who holds very strongly to the superiority of the KJV, yet is a man so full of grace and humility that I could hardly characterize him as KJVO. Thanks again for your work, brother!
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. PLEASE READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Well said I'm a new King James or King James guy myself and prefer the TR but as Christians we should do all things with the spirit of Christ and I've noticed the same thing about many King James onlyist.
Interestingly, at Pentecost, the Holy Spirit did not change the ears of the crowd so they could understand the apostles speaking in their native language. Instead he gave the gift of tongues to the believers, so the crowd could hear, and understand the gospel in their own language. “And many were added to their number that day.”
When the Bible is translated into other languages do the translators go back to the KJV or the original manuscripts. For example, if a scholar was going to translate the Greek or Hebrew into Spanish they wouldn’t go consult the KJV. Obviously they would go back to original manuscripts. So why then when we translate the Bible into English do people insist that only the KJV can have the “right” translation? That line of thinking is inconsistent and obscure. I’m not sure the logic of you brining you Acts 2. By your logic you should be able to listen to the Bible in French and let the HS translate it for you in English. I’m not denying the gift of tongues in that passage, I’m just saying that what Matt is talking about and what you wrote here are not even comparable. Translating has nothing to do with the gift of tongues at Pentecost, giving understanding to the hearers.
Thank you so much for presenting a great balance of translations and a taking an intellectual approach to why KJVO is truly an unbalanced and flawed argument. I read KJV, ESV and NASB and benefit from all of them.
@@ronjones6555 The KJB. But it’s not a case of being preferred It’s a case of me being believing, and being fully persuaded that the KJB is the word of God, THE Bible for English speaking people. This is due to reasons of logical, deductive reasoning both in regards to textual history/criticism, and of course, faith.
Love your channel. I belong to a PCA church in Sumter SC and I’m new to reformed theology as I came out of a Charismatic church. You have helped me grow.
Good video. Don’t worry. I won’t beat you up. I like the KJV but I primarily use the LSB. The LSB is probably going to be the last translation I will buy because I own a good selection of conservative translations. We would do well to support ministries that are trying to get the Bible out to non-English speaking countries that need a Bible. A few years ago the church I go to had one of our missionaries on a Sunday night. He pastors a church in Italy. I asked him how Italian translations are available in Italian. He stated four. We have way more English translations than we need, some good, some not good. We should really put a greater effort to get Bibles out to people who don’t have one, meaning non-English. Thank you for this video. One more thing. (I keep adding to my comments.). When my wife and I lived in Alaska, we were told to try a church not far from us. I made the decision not to go there because the church’s website advertised KJV 1611; I doubt it actually used the 1611 version because it’s so unreadable today. The same church said the KJV was God’s choice for the English speaking world. That’s false advertising.
Great discussion. The way we love each other is a Christian's strongest testimony. As far as the translations, I see value in them all, depending on the target group. I personally love the NKJV and HCSB, as well as the NIV for general witnessing.
About 6 to 7 months ago I decided to make some changes in my life to better myself. Getting closer to God was one of them. So I bought a KJV Bible to read. I really wanted to understand it so bad. But because of the old, and outdated language used in it I had a hard time understanding it. It has words in it that are no longer a part of the English language, and words that the meaning of them have changed over the centuries which make it hard to understand. I'm not against the KJV. If you can understand it great, read it. But after 3 weeks to a month of struggling with the KJV, I purchased a 95 reference NASB Bible. I can understand it better. I just want to read the Bible to understand about God's past. Not to go through the Bible word for word and scrutinize words or phrases that you disagree with. That is a bit too much in my book. I have learned alot from my 95 NASB Bible, and it suites my needs very well
I've had many conversations about the Bible with all different types of people (atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics, KJVO people, etc.). The two most closed minded, rude, and emotionally charged people I've talked with are atheists and KJVO people, hands down. Something isn't right with the KJVO crowd when they claim to know the Lord, but yet are as nasty as atheists.
Hello friend! Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Well when you are so invested in the corruptions of other Bibles it's easy to understand why! KJV have not only commitment to the Words of God but Doctrine, and when you tae your doctrines from a corrupted book you can end up falling for wrong doctrine. The doctrine of hell fire for example, a lot of Christians are convinced that hell doesn't exist. I prefer be mean and be honest and stick with my position, instead of deceive you with flattery. But I agree that can be pretty over the top in some circunstances. Personaly, I try to be caring towards other people. However, my faith and my position is not based at how people treat me. Is based in what God says. Closed minded is a great thing, as long you are closed minded to God Jesus Christ the Son and Holy Spirit.. No wonder the Bible says to separate ourselves from the world. The world is full of lies!
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Thanks for this video Pastor Matt. Really appreciate your civilized ways to present your conclusions. A similar thing happens to us Spanish speakers (I live in Honduras)... People insult others because they read such and such translation, calling them names, etc. There are even entire series preached over several weeks and months telling the congregation why everyone else is either satanic or a false prophet, or just plain stupid, instead of preaching Christ, and Him crucified... They are forming modern-day pharisees and saducees, not disciples. It is sad because It only hurts the body of Christ and gives non-Christians and backsliders a reason to reject Christ. Jesus preached love for one another, and some of these brothers are preaching hate one another... Thanks again! Blessings to you, your family and for your work in the Kingdom.
Bravo Matt. Well said brother. I think you especially nailed #1 and #2, Vile attitude and Anti-intellectual. These have been the biggest issues I have had with the kjvo. Well said. Thanks for the vulnerability as well. JT
Hello friend! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Grew up in KJVO church/family. Spent 10 years wandering through many translations that are great. However, returned to KJV because it's the one I have in my memory. For sure, not KJVO. At all.
This is my first time to watch your video because I thought you are KJV only but when I found the title of this video I decided to watch it.I used to be a KJV only during my early years as a christian.I was saved at Billy Graham 1977 crusade in Philippines and was given a Good News Bible new testament a year later I started to attend a baptist church who prefers the KJV in congregational bible reading and Sunday School classes,Bible Studies.Later I was given a brochure by J.J.Ray listing Bibles that is corrupt and was told to stick to KJV because reading other versions would only make me worldly,compromiser and ecumenical and possibly lead me back to the RCC from which I was raised.So to make a long story short I read years later the pamphlet Bible Translations by Robert L.Sumner and King James Only?by R.A Joyner and did more research I no longer am a KJV only but still use KJV but open to read NKJV,NASV,NIV NLT and recently ESV.What you said is true because those arguments are what I used myself toward those who read modern versions base on critical text.Thank you for this video.
I am reading completely through KJV this year. I love it very much. The elegance and tradition but I really enjoy the ESV as well. I am looking forward to the LSB too. I will likely read that one next year.
KJP (King James PRIMARY) seems like a better way to appreciate and use the KJV, where it may be your go-to bible, but if something doesn't make sense or if you think another translation translates the text more accurately, you're open to using it.
Yes,translations preferences can be a stumbling block because of pride.I am a 35 year kjv person and learned about some of these issues back in the 90s and really received a lot of flack for kjv because everyone prefered modern translations.But now because so much information is on line the shoe is on the other foot.I think if the Apostle Paul was here he would be dealing with us about mutual respect rather than best translation.Ones favorite translation is a very personal thing with them and insults fractures the body.I also myself love the rsv.Between the two I get a pretty good reading
Hello Steve! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I think I'm on similar viewpoint as you do. I still love the KJV above all others, but there are many verses that totally do not make sense to me, a non-native English speaker. I need to refer to the RSV or ESV sometimes to help me understand the verses in the KJV. I do love the RSV too, but for some reasons I don't like the ESV as much as the RSV.
Don’t worry. I’ve found the angriest and most opinionated Christians are folks I just care to ignore. I love Jesus and seek God’s will every day. He speaks to His people in countless ways. However I’ve never heard a word from him in King James English. Before there was a KJV God spoke to his people as He still does to this day. I am thankful He does.
I remember one time I left a comment on a KJVO video where I used every single KJVO argument presented in the video except four the Modern English Version which is a majority text Bible like the KJV but with modern language. I’m not entirely proud for inciting verbal violence in the comment section that day but at the end it did prove my point that most KJVO arguments are very subjective, emotional and often grounded in conspiracy which you can virtually apply to just about anything. That day also taught me that just because you may be angry and passionate about something doesn’t mean you’re right about it. There are times where I almost can’t consider my IFB KJVO brothers and sisters as genuinely Christian because of the rotten fruit that they often bare. But only God can judge that. May God always work in us to help us to overcome our misguided zeal in all stages of our life; KJVO or otherwise. Lord Jesus forgive us when we honor you with our lips but our hearts are far from you.
Do you not read your Bible? Not the KJV obviously. Your’s waters everything down. The Lord rewarded a man named Phinehas for being zealous for his God. You know how? By killing. Wow didn’t know that about The Lords character did you? It’s not all about you getting along with people, it’s about The Lord 1st and foremost and His word and then you’ll get along and have unity. Not compromising so everyone can get along. I have faith of what God said, my emotions have nothing to do with faith. It’s the exact opposite. KJV only’s are ZEALOUS over Gods word because it is the perfect word of God. We don’t appreciate people who attack it.
@@ThePreachersDaughterKJV1611 My friend, zeal is no excuse for ignorance and the one who is zealous without knowledge sins (Proverbs 19:2). The Jews were zealous for God, but missed the gospel. (Romans 10:2) Peter was zealous for Jesus by cutting off the ear of the high priests servant but was rebuked for it (Mark 14:47) and Apollos was zealous for the Gospel but still needed instruction from Priscilla and Aquila (Acts 18:24 -26). It is foolish, my friend, to think that you are above correction because of your zeal. As I said in my comment, KJVO arguments are subjective and emotional and you, like many other before, have proved that to me once more. I encourage you, my friend, as I do with myself in these matters to consider the possibility that you may be incorrect in your view. Prudent humility is far better than ignorant zeal. I’m not even encouraging you to abandon the KJV as it still holds up as a treasure in the line of God’s word to the world. I simply encourage you to not ridicule, mock and revile others simply because they are not convinced that the KJV is the only perfect translation of God’s word. I personally came to the truth of the gospel through the NIV which taught me of my sin before a Holy God who loved me so much that he sent his Son to die as a sacrifice of atonement on my behalf and that faith in his name and perfect work on the cross will lead me to everlasting life. If the Devil was the one who inspired all of these modern bible version, then he did a terrible job because I still came to an accurate understanding of the gospel message as Christ the Son of God came, lived, was buried, rose again and ascended to the right hand of the Father and will one day return to judge the living and the dead.
@@SaneNoMore correct, I am aware of that though the TR does stem from the byzantine line of mss and is often touted as a majority text GNT in KJVO circles.
Peter Ruckman, for one, didn't appear to believe that the KJV was a translation. He believed that it was entirely reinspired, and was therefore a whole new autograph.
And that still sounds better than the stuff Daniel Wallace says “We do not have now - in any of our critical Greek texts or in any translations - exactly what the authors of the New Testament wrote. Even if we did, we would not know it. There are many, many places in which the text of the New Testament is uncertain.” Elijah Hixson & Peter Gurry. Myths & Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism. xii. Quote by Dan Wallace.
Actually that's a misrepresentation of what Dr. Ruckman believed. That's also a logical fallacy called a Strawman. Not only that, regardless of what you think of the character of Dr. Ruckman, it's more important that as reasonable, thinking, and logical creatures of God we should deal with the *actual* argument than the person making the argument. This logical fallacy was covered in this video - ad hominem.
I was reading the gospels( book of John) in 2002 when the Holy Spirit removed the scales from my spiritual eyes, convicted me of my sins and showed me who Jesus Christ really was. I became a born again believer that moment when I saw Jesus Christ’s glory and Beauty, HE is the forgiver of sins and my Savior. I was reading the Bible gifted to me by my friend and it was an NIV study bible. I know that God revealed to me that Jesus Christ is Lord from this version of the Bible. Now, my husband and I use both ESV and NIV for personal study. I read NLT to our children when we study as a family. Thanks for this video
Hello Jacob! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I was trained and even taught in an IFB church that was KJVO. I deeply loved the people in my home church but when I moved to go to Bible school I was opened up to the movement as a whole and found it to be very legalistic, uncharitable, schismatic, misogynistic and at my school in Greenville S.C. they were also quite racist at the time (not saying that is true today). I left that denomination and after 30 years of study and growth I still hold the same doctrine in every other area but I have found the KJVO argument untenable. I miss my old home church and have never found another like it but I can not even fathom how that denomination has moved to the point that they now actually teach the KJV is inspired. That was not something they taught back then and is in my opinion a form of idolatry. Because of how they behave and the direction they have taken I sadly find myself shying away from using the KJV at all despite my former love for it and my deep respect for its pure majesty. In fact I no longer carry a KJV at all and out of over 80 bibles on my shelf (I like study bibles) only 4 are KJV and even then, only because that was the only translation that particular study Bible came in.
I have a copy of the 1611 KJV as it was originally written. I can barely read it. I believe it's been revised three times since 1611. So was the KJV corrupt until the revision we have today was complete?
I think that's not an argument against reading the KJV. The KJV ist still a great translation. Some guys are KJV-Onlyist's because it's such a beautiful translation! I would strongly disagree with their position, because there are some other great translations worth of reading (NKJV, ESV, NASB, ...), but the KJV is what puritans and revival preachers read, a good translation! God bless, brother!
This is a great presentation of what can be a difficult topic.I read the king james bible but realise the new king james and ESV are also good translations in the English language. I also studied a few other languages including the original hebrew and Greek. Yes if you are not English e.g. Russian or Arab you will want the scriptues in your own language
Thank you for this important video. I almost fell into the KJV-onlyism trap as a new believer. I praise God that a married couple from my church invited me into their home for a meal and took the time to explain how/why I was headed in the wrong direction on that issue. These days, I do my reading from KJV and ESV translations in my quiet time, and NKJV at church which is what my pastor uses in sermons. To God be the glory!
When I’m working through my own translations of the Greek and I compare them to the KJV, I find the the KJV to be marvellously accurate and incredibly beautiful.
Yes the KJV is textus receptive and it shouldn't be have than 2% difference with majority text and critical text. We are mostly disputing with these 2% differences.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
There is no better guide, teacher and helper than the Holy Spirit but sadly, the KJ bible is supernaturally changing. There are thousands of changes that have taken place right under our noses in the KJ bible. This is where it’s mind blowing that KING JAMES bible ONLY believing pastors and watchmen, do not see these wicked changes taking place, instead.... they defend it. Do they even know who they are defending? It's Satan! Also, there are many SAVED Christians in Christ Jesus that do not see these changes. Clearly, these are the Bible Prophecies Unfolding!! Read Amos 8:11-12 KJB, Daniel 7:25 KJB and 2 Thess. 2:8-11 KJB. Revelation 22:10 KJB - And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (It's already at hand folks, do you see that verse in Rev. 22:10 KJB where it says "SEAL NOT"?)!! The STRONG DELUSION has arrived. ARE YOU AWAKE TO SEE IT? The KJ bible is the BEAST, looking right at you when you read it. Satan has been using his abilities supernaturally according to the rules of engagement and some of these moves has been supernaturally changing the King James bible. Satan inspired all the counterfeit and corrupted modern English versions and the Holy Spirit inspired men and women of God to defend and teach from the King James Bible as the only preserved, inspired, and inerrant written Word of God. Don't know how many decades Satan has supernaturally been changing the King James, but I think it's been in correlation to the amount of Satanism and witchcraft by man to participate with his kingdom, fighting God's Kingdom. So, when more doors into the occult were opened when CERN came online because witchcraft is part of the operation of all the LHC's (The Large Hadron Collider - CERN), the amount of supernatural attacks has occurred on God's written Word in the KJB. "I'm sure that most of you already know about this change. But did you know specifically why a WOLF has replaced the Lion in Isaiah 11:6 KJ bible? It's because God in His great mercy is warning you that Satan is on the loose, and that he is trying to dwell with you. By this change, God is also warning those with eyes to see that the bible has been tampered with. There are thousands more of these wicked bible changes. Held under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit, these changes are also cryptically praising Satan, homosexuality, cannibalism, sexual vulgarity and antichrist blasphemy." Quote from Truth Shock TV It just proves that we must be very close to the end of the church age of Grace, Jesus Christ is coming very soon for His Church (SAVED BELIEVERS in the Body of Christ).
God's word is written and hidden in our hearts forever!! John 1:1 KJ bible - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. As you see in this verse, it does NOT say, in the beginning was the bible.... now does it? NO!! It's through the kj bible, Satan is deceiving many; this will include many who are kj bible only believing pastors, watchmen, watchwomen and members of a church, who never personally embraced Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, who is Jesus Christ, who IS the Word but is embracing the bible more than the Word, who IS Jesus Christ. Do not give power to a mere book written in ink on paper and do not make it your idol and your god. Rev. 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Jezebel the harlot/Babylon). That's the kj bible that has supernaturally changed and it's now, Satan's territory. There is ONLY one God and He is our Creator, the Almighty God whom we need to worship and trust ALWAYS, Amen!! Here is a message for lost souls - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, SAVES lost souls, please read it and BELIEVE truly from your heart How that Christ died for our sins, He was buried and He rose on the third day according to the scriptures!! Please get saved now before it's too late for your soul!! Heaven and Hell are REAL, LITERAL places. 1 ETERNITY to choose from, HEAVEN or HELL, choose wisely for your soul. Grace and Peace to all in Jesus Christ!!
@@1Corinthians15_1-4 I too have seen in my 3 KJV bibles , 1Nkjv study bible and my KJV bible app have all mysteriously changed from what they read when i first read them . I too also thank Truth Shocks Tv for showing the false preachers and pastors who read passages that are clearly corrupted and refusing to believe it has been changed. I didn't know much about CERN till i watched truth shocks tv ,that blew my mind when i tried to explain to my wife; she didn't believe my explanation . Both her and my eldest childrn have both said that they think i'm going mad.,but i know the truth of it and the LION shall lay with the lamb Not the wolf.
@@rudeboycue Amen!! So glad that you see these wicked changes. Please send me a friend's request on Facebook, under my name. There is a group called the Mandela Effect and the changes happening in the kjbible, would love to have you in that group; this is where we discuss all the supernatural changes. Only 1% see and it is not easy for those who have made their bible their god and their idol, instead of giving all the glory and praise to God our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. John 1:1 Keep in touch please. Grace and Peace.
Hello friend! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Which Bible serves the glory of God best…. a KJV that collects dust because someone struggles to understand it, or a ESV/NKJV/CSB that someone can read & God reveal Himself to them in all His Glory?
I completely agree with you here. I actually used to be KJV-Only, but after considering what the other side has to say about the issue, I realised how baseless and bad the arguments are for saying that the King James Bible is the only translation we should use. Another problem with their position is that the Church existed almost 1,600 years without the KJV, so are we supposed to believe that the church didn't have the true Word of God, until the King James translators came in to fill that gap? The fact of the matter is, the church has always had the scriptures, so we don't need the KJV to say that we have the Word of God in front of us. Also, KJV-Onlyists like to argue that the Textus Receptus agrees with the majority of Greek manuscripts and that that should be our standard for determining the original text, and yet, there are actually times where the T.R. disagrees with the majority text, like in the Book of Revelation (e.g. the majority text says "tree of life" instead of "book of life" in Revelation 22:19). While I do love the KJV, there are definitely problems with saying that it's the only translation we should use. Mike Winger did a great video explaining why the Critical Text disagrees with the Textus Receptus in this video. It was actually one of the things that made me change my mind on this issue: czcams.com/video/G0VE7f-CzOQ/video.html
One thing the KJVO people don’t know or understand is that the KJV is NOT an original translation. It is a 95-99% verbatim copy of the Geneva Bible which is actually the one the Pilgrims brought with them on the Mayflower to the New World
I teened up, spent my teens, in an KJVO church. While I miss some of the relationships and friends I had there, you speak the truth. The vitriol they give when you leave or disagree with them on the translation is cult like.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@jasonl7255 The gospel is that Jesus Christ died and rose again to save sinners. We are saved by grace alone threw faith alone in Christ Alone. Christ is the only means of salvation there is no other way than to put your faith in Him. It is His work on the cross that redeems us and his rightousnes that's makes us justified. So that no man can boast.
@@jasonl7255 you can never loose your salvation. That would make Christ's work on the cross imperfect. Romans 8: 28-30 nothing can separate us from the love of Christ
For the most part “missing” words in ESV are italicized in the KJV, which means that they are not in God’s revealed Word, but were ADDED to the KJV for clarification. In other instances, the “missing” word is simply placed in a different word order, so that the word order is more compatible with how we speak today vs old English.
That is one major flaw of the ESV. It does not italicize interpolated words of the translators. Perhaps because it is not as literal as advertized similar to the NASB who is also not that literal. KJV/NKJV/NASB do italicize those.
@@konstantinallinforchrist9867 One other issue I think the ESV failed on was the constant use of “some manuscripts say” in the footnotes instead of actually identifying which school of manuscripts the variant reading is from, like what the NKJV does in its footnotes.
I used to be kjvo but then I just looked into the critical text and I was confused as to why it was an argument as to which one was “superior” because they are both great in their own regard. My 2 favorite translations are now the CSB and NET. I also use ESV and KJV they’re just not my favorites. I also now own a copy of the MT and 2 copies of the Critical text.
God bless you, Pastor. This seems to be a difficult topic to discuss. But you approached it with grace and wisdom. I mostly read the NASB, NLT, and NKJV and I have been blessed many times over from those translations. I just recently have been reading the KJV and appreciating it and will continue to do so along with the previous mentioned translations.
Kjv is wonderful. I have 3 copies, 1611, 1970, and a brand new 2005 blue leather copy. But I prefer to study in NKJV, TS2009 and NASB. Strongs is a tough read but great study tool.
I love the KJV and NKJV but I am definitely not an KJVO I honestly prefer the NLT because it’s super easy to understand! But it doesn’t mean I only read NLT even tho I prefer it because there are some verses missing so when I do have a Bible study I read to both perspective 🙌🏼 So even tho I have brothers and sisters telling me that I should only rely on the KJV because the rest of the translation is satanic I can only say that it is between me and God not you and me. For scriptures says for both translations “You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right.” Romans 14:22 NLT “Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.” Romans 14:22 KJV Godbless you guys 🙌🏼 and Godbless you brother for this amazing video 🙌🏼!!!
I was once a KJVO and boy does this position have so many flaws and you're right, KJ onlyists commit these fallacies all the time, especially the ones I've spoken to. This was a good video. Thank u
I would like to sincerely thank you for stating things as you did concerning people who are KJVO. I am shocked by their behaviour and to hear a preacher describe their behaviour as you did gives me comfort. I am deeply distressed by their attacks and I wonder how deeply it hurts the heart of God. Thank you for calling them out plainly .
i read the Complete Jewish Study Bible,KJV(for choir reasons),NIV(my favorite translation)and 15 other translations.I compare them with the Interlinear/CJSB I have if I have any doubts
Hello friend! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Hello Khrista! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I use and read the KJV the most, But when I study I always use KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV, and NLT. I feel like when I use those translations when studying I have a great grasp on what the text says it means.
Brother, polemics is not “Christians arguing against one another,” but is in a sense the opposite of apologetics but with the same goal…is the “offensive” contrast to the “defense” that is apologetics, ie polemics is attacking (nicely!) OTHER religions and philosophical systems as inadequate.
Thank you for this. I have a pastor friend who is KJVO and while he is a brother in the faith, he quite bluntly trashes the other translations. He keeps trying to convince me to get rid of my other bibles. I appreciate this video very much.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@konstantinallinforchrist9867 Isaiah 9:6 כִּי־יֶלֶד יֻלַּד־לָנוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָנוּ וַתְּהִי הַמִּשְׂרָה עַל־שִׁכְמוֹ וַיִּקְרָא שְׁמוֹ פֶּלֶא יוֹעֵץ אֵל גִּבּוֹר אֲבִיעַד שַׂר־שָׁלוֹם Which reads: For unto us a Lad has arrived, the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty One, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. “a Lad has arrived” - NOT “a child born” “Everlasting Father” - YaH is The Everlasting FATHER Sir, it’s been YaH The Heavenly Father this whole time, that’s the Parable, that’s the Riddle Praise YaH and no other
Is it me or does what you’re describing sound like a cult? Ever see a church that was KJV only that wasn’t Baptist, especially of the Free Will kind? When you add the other errors they typically hold in other major categories, how are we supposed to count them as fellow saints?
I’m KJVO. And all do respect but, just because you disagree with something in another denomination it doesn’t make them a cult. I’m not angry or trying to argue but from Brother in Christ to Brother in Christ, I ask you to respect my opinion in keeping God’s word pure.
James Snapp taking on 2 KJVO’s at once Saturday night live, April 20th, 8pm, debating I John 5:7 at Standing for Truth with Donny hosting. Should be a good one.
The KJV was my first English version... I still read and study from it but no longer my main version. NKJV, ESV, NASB, KJV, and TLV in that order are now my main.
I have run into these arguments from those who adhere to only the KJV. I am not someone who knows Hebrew, or Greek, but I make use of Interlinear bibles, which is partly why I am not KJVO anymore. Also, as someone who taught Sunday School, I would compare many versions. The meaning does not change, but 10-13 year olds did not understand the KJV as well. I thought it was better to let them read from versions they could better understand for themselves. I still love the KJV, but using other versions can aid in my own understanding as well.
Some KJV-only types on CZcams are real deceitful. They post videos with clickbait titles like "I used to be a KJV-only, but..." and then sucker people into watching in their videos to show how KJV-only they really are.
I have a bad brain injury and easily get distracted in the beautiful KJV I was raised with. That sucks, right? The NKJV and others keep me in the game. Sure, there are some flakey versions out there, but growing up KJV helps weed those out pretty quick. Meanwhile, other versions help amplify and clarify the KJV. Even the dreaded "Action Bible" has helped. This was an EXCELLENT treatise on a difficult, sometimes emotionally-charged subject. THANK YOU and much respect for being willing to tackle it!
This was a great video. I grew up in the KJVO movement and my current church leans that way. Not everyone on the KJVO side disregard the Greek/Hebrew and translation for other nations. That being said it is the minority. I appreciate your grace and understanding.
I see a few differences in other translations that bother me. Genesis 12:7 uses “Descendants” rather than “Seed” for the heirs of the promise to Abram. In Galatians 3:15-20 Paul clearly defines what GOD was saying, even in telling us it is “Seed not Seeds” as in singular, not plural, and the seed is Christ. A very horrific error IMO. It changes the meaning of the text. That is only 1. I have a NASB, NLT & NKJV and feel like I should stick to my KJV. I have prayed on it intently and have come to that conclusion. Although I do like the NASB and NKJV, the NLT is not for me. As long as the gospel is correct, I suppose I have no issues with other translations. My first Bible was an ESV paperback, so I do want to get an ESV study, but my next Bible is an KJV Allen 5WM wide margin.. Great arguments. I enjoy the channel. Keep up the great work.
Sadly, I have heard and KJ Onlyist respond to a question that was asked something like this “ If someone who speaks Russian wants to read the Bible, do they need to learn English” sadly the KJ Onlyist said yes.
My least favorite theological conversation is bible translations and you've summed up how I see this issue very well. I LOVE my KJV, but I also enjoy ESV, CSV & NASB
1. The King James Version of the Holy Scriptures was established as the Standard in English way before either of us were born. There's no presumption in recognizing this fact of history. 2. Those who appose the continued use of the King James Version of the Holy Scriptures in our churches have repeatedly stated, "The only difference between a modern version and the King James Version is modern words." So, pointing out actual differences such as missing verses is not circular reasoning. Certainly not in rebuttal to those mistaken assertions.
Why I am KJVO: because it is one of the very few Bibles which reveals the doctrine of the Faith of Christ, (Gal 2:16) how we are justified by the Faith of Christ, and how we are gifted the Faith of Christ. (Eph 2:8; Rom 3:30)
my professor in college said there were many translation errors in the kjv. He also said there are translation errors in the Douay-Rheims. There are obvious biases in the kjv against Catholicism. To say that the kjv is excellent with no errors is a lie.
I think I find myself way on the opposite side of the KJVO proponents! The first time I encountered the KJVO argument, I thought it was the most wacky thing thing I had ever heard. English is not my first language and I was trying to picture my grandmothers reading the Bible without understanding a word. What struck me as really odd, was that the arguments centered around the translation, not the Greek manuscripts. That is like starting on the middle rung of a tall ladder! Also, why would God not provide us with his Word until 1500-1600 years after the church was born. As a translation among many, I can respect and appreciate the KJV. It is not a good translation for me. While I read English just fine, the language of KJV still puts a barrier between me and the meaning. I will contend myself with appreciating KJV through quotes as heard in Handel’s Messiah. I prefer to read a variety of translations. Each time I start over reading the Bible, I pick a different version and/or language. It prevents my brain from falling asleep while reading. I have not researched the LXX much or adequately to say much about it, but I get the impression it does differ from the Hebrew Old Testament. Yet, it was the Scripture Jesus and the disciples felt comfortable quoting and using. I presume the meaning was the same, even if the wording did not match. I appreciate this video. I just wanted to post my initial reaction to encountering KJVO.
I'm a Southern Baptist who agrees with you concerning the KJV. I love it; it's one of my favorite translations too. However, I'm not KJVO or even KJV-preferred.
Hello friend! You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled. So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text. Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament). KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible. KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings. It's a problem almost of all Bible translations. Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations. * independent to political powers, money and clergy. "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I like NKJV as a modern translation, I prefer TR base bibles, however I use the NASB and TLV bibles as CR base I find the translations are accurate. But I Love my KJV. Thumbs up for your video.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I recommend getting one now then. I don’t think they are printing new ones and have abandoned it. I have one, and I like it a lot-I don’t see how anyone would ever strongly dislike it. It’s good. I don’t read it though. The reason I don’t read mine is that the quality of the physical Bible is so poor it’s distracting. The ghosting is incredible.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
There is no better guide, teacher and helper than the Holy Spirit but sadly, the KJ bible is supernaturally changing. There are thousands of changes that have taken place right under our noses in the KJ bible. This is where it’s mind blowing that KING JAMES bible ONLY believing pastors and watchmen, do not see these wicked changes taking place, instead.... they defend it. Do they even know who they are defending? It's Satan! Also, there are many SAVED Christians in Christ Jesus that do not see these changes. Clearly, these are the Bible Prophecies Unfolding!! Read Amos 8:11-12 KJB, Daniel 7:25 KJB and 2 Thess. 2:8-11 KJB. Revelation 22:10 KJB - And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (It's already at hand folks, do you see that verse in Rev. 22:10 KJB where it says "SEAL NOT"?)!! The STRONG DELUSION has arrived. ARE YOU AWAKE TO SEE IT? The KJ bible is the BEAST, looking right at you when you read it. Satan has been using his abilities supernaturally according to the rules of engagement and some of these moves has been supernaturally changing the King James bible. Satan inspired all the counterfeit and corrupted modern English versions and the Holy Spirit inspired men and women of God to defend and teach from the King James Bible as the only preserved, inspired, and inerrant written Word of God. Don't know how many decades Satan has supernaturally been changing the King James, but I think it's been in correlation to the amount of Satanism and witchcraft by man to participate with his kingdom, fighting God's Kingdom. So, when more doors into the occult were opened when CERN came online because witchcraft is part of the operation of all the LHC's (The Large Hadron Collider - CERN), the amount of supernatural attacks has occurred on God's written Word in the KJB. "I'm sure that most of you already know about this change. But did you know specifically why a WOLF has replaced the Lion in Isaiah 11:6 KJ bible? It's because God in His great mercy is warning you that Satan is on the loose, and that he is trying to dwell with you. By this change, God is also warning those with eyes to see that the bible has been tampered with. There are thousands more of these wicked bible changes. Held under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit, these changes are also cryptically praising Satan, homosexuality, cannibalism, sexual vulgarity and antichrist blasphemy." Quote from Truth Shock TV It just proves that we must be very close to the end of the church age of Grace, Jesus Christ is coming very soon for His Church (SAVED BELIEVERS in the Body of Christ).
God's word is written and hidden in our hearts forever!! John 1:1 KJ bible - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. As you see in this verse, it does NOT say, in the beginning was the bible.... now does it? NO!! It's through the kj bible, Satan is deceiving many; this will include many who are kj bible only believing pastors, watchmen, watchwomen and members of a church, who never personally embraced Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, who is Jesus Christ, who IS the Word but is embracing the bible more than the Word, who IS Jesus Christ. Do not give power to a mere book written in ink on paper and do not make it your idol and your god. Rev. 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Jezebel the harlot/Babylon). That's the kj bible that has supernaturally changed and it's now, Satan's territory. There is ONLY one God and He is our Creator, the Almighty God whom we need to worship and trust ALWAYS, Amen!! Here is a message for lost souls - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, SAVES lost souls, please read it and BELIEVE truly from your heart How that Christ died for our sins, He was buried and He rose on the third day according to the scriptures!! Please get saved now before it's too late for your soul!! Heaven and Hell are REAL, LITERAL places. 1 ETERNITY to choose from, HEAVEN or HELL, choose wisely for your soul. Grace and Peace to all in Jesus Christ!!
I got caught up in string KJV preference thing for a very short time. So many things pulled me from that thankfully. Although I do prefer TR manuscripts. Each translation has its strengths and weaknesses IMO. Use them all.
When I first heard of the King James Only movement, indeed I thought it was silly to elevate an English-language version to the status of an inspired text. But in looking into the matter, it seems as though nearly every other translation uses a New Testament that's based on the Alexandrian text-type instead of the Byzantine text-type. Rejecting the Alexandrian text-type, because, for example, it comes from a part of the world rife with certain heresies, is not nearly so unreasonable as claiming an English translation to have been inspired. It could still also be mistaken, of course.
Think about this. The KJV translators used the Greek text written by Erasmus, a Catholic priest and theologian.. So talk about heresy and error! The whole KJV is based on a Catholic text. I still like and read the KJV in spite of its origin. Let's be adults.
Which edition of the KJV? The 1611, Cambridge, Oxford, etcetera. You’ll have certain people arguing, “They are the exact same aside from the orthography.” Yet, there is a specific difference in Ezekiel 24:7 when you juxtapose the 1611 with the 1769 Oxford edition. This is one of many examples. If one is historically accurate, the other cannot be.
I would probably be labeled, "KJVO", which is fine. I am not offended by the term. And I definitely empathize with you Bro. Matt about your experiences with some within the KJVO camp. I don't advocate that behavior at all, and it's not a compelling argument for the King James, as far as I am concerned. The KJV position can be established by logical inference, and good cogent, and coherent reasoning. I do find that the same behavior and characteristics of "non-KJVO" folks as well - but that doesn't make me reject their position. I would rather deal with the actual arguments than the people making the arguments. I do appreciate your video, and the insight it provides. I have read James White's book, and several other positions that are the antithesis to my belief about the KJB, and I do see a lot of logical (both formal, and informal) fallacies committed as well from their perspective. Arguments that do not follow, a lot of circular reasoning, and faulty appeals to authority, among many. However, I think one of the most prevalent fallacies committed by those that oppose the KJVO is strawman. They often misrepresent the foundational basis of my position - that I believe there is a perfect, pure, infallible, and inerrant Bible today. With all that said, I have written down notes on your video, so that I am careful not to misrepresent you myself, which, Lord willing, I can use to help my students truly understand the challenges to our position and formulate good logical reasons for why we believe what we believe. (1 Pet. 3:15; Col. 4:6). BTW, I am the son and brother of missionaries, and am a strong proponent of global, world-wide missions. I have both financially, and physically invested in global missions work for the last 38 years - which does include translation work. I believe any good KJVO proponent would support this position if they were honest with this approach and consistent biblically.
Thank you for what you said about the kjo argument that was very helpful we have kjo people here in England and its very confusing so thank you you made it very clear. God bless
I read my NLT for understanding, but refer back to my KJV for deeper meaning. But, our relationship with God doesn't come only from a book. Mainly prayer and repentance do that.
I don’t like having to ferret out the archaic language in the KJV. It is a beautiful translation if one is willing to use a Strongs concordance. I prefer the ESV, NASB, and NKJV in that order. Very nice video. Your approach is very irenic. We don’t need any more infighting in the body of Christ.
My last live stream I did it was about destroying King James only and 7th Day Adventist. And the reason why I did that video in that particular way was to invite the maximum amount of criticism so that a Seventh-Day Adventist could see that they do not have a very good argument for saying that the 2300 in Daniel 8:14 refers to 2300 years. And their whole religion Rises and falls on that believe. I made the mistake of while I was arranging my show I was listening to a live stream of a Seventh-Day Adventist show and I was a little edgy when I started my own show because I felt gaslighted in the chat room. So if you listen to the video and I sound angry or something I'm not really angry. But anyway I think it's very easy to use Daniel a improve 100% that King James only is wrong and also Seventh-Day adventism because first 26 of the same passage does not make sense if you translate first 14 to mean 2,300 days
Before I moved out on my own to a studio, I was blinded by my sins. Being addicted to pornography was one of them. I always believed in Jesus, but I dont think I was truly born again until about 2 years ago. When I moved out on my own, I found a Bible that I had packed. (My family owned many Bibles, but I never really read the Bible growing up). It was a New Living Translation Bible. I began reading and God really spoke to my heart. He convicted me of my sins and taught me how to have a personal relationship with Him. I developed a more prayerful life and a new desire to read His word. I now have a new desire to follow Jesus and surrender everything to Him. Though I slip into sin, the Holy Spirit guides me to ask for forgiveness and to put my eyes back on Jesus. I believe God used the time I spent alone living in my studio to get to really know Him through His word, and the Bible I read was the New Living Translation....I believe God speaks to people in different ways and not just through only one translation.
Amen!!
Really weird reading this comment, its liking reading my own comment. Literally the last two years of my life verbatim, down to the NLT bible I found that I packed when I moved out, which I started reading from being alone.
@@dominicditommaso2915 Wow same with you too? Yah, I think God definitely gave us similar situations to grow closer to Him 🙂
@I Sanchez Hey my friend, wow really? Yah...im not sure your family's exact beliefs or much about the Pentacostal denomination....but there are unfortunately many people who "practice" religion under the title Christian, but their hearts are far from God. Jesus said we can know people by their spiritual fruit.....what matters is if someone is truly born again...that they are a new creation in Christ. Im sorry of the situation you are in...ill definitely be praying for you...whatever situation youre in right now, God can use it for good in the future...seek Him and read His word, and ask God for direction...i will be praying for you....it is very sad corruption has filled our churches...seems to be getting worse
Hello friend!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I used to be KJVo, I still love my KJV, but a dear pastor helped me by this statement, "we serve King Jesus not King James."
I agree. I dont even think LeBron is that great. Lol 😆
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Wow, I don't think I could have said it better myself.
@I Sanchez Maybe it's because the source text for the KJV wasn't the most accurate. Have you ever considered that possibility?
I Worship Jesus and not James
I grew up in a KJVo church and nearly left the faith due to how they treated me when I asked questions. I was constantly shamed and struggled with doubt for years and even now I still struggle though I truly love God and want to serve Him to the best I am able. I thank God for His helping me to never fully lose faith in Him as I was struggling to free myself from my old KJV only church.
I am so sorry went through that. I also grew up in a KJVo church, and most in my family are KJVo. I will continue to pray for Christians like you who have been hurt by our brothers and sisters in Christ. I definitely understand.
It's ok to have questions-- asking hard questions and then searching out the answers is very edifying.
Legalism will do that. Nearly 3 years later, I hope you are now even stronger in the faith now. Careful of those that will conflate law and gospel; and just know they're an extreme so not all churches behave this way. God bless.
@@mrobin1987 I'll be honest many KJVo people are genuinely saved so don't get me wrong. However, their idolatry of the KJV, at least on the extreme end, makes them apostate churches. They ALWAYS make KJV a salvation issue and always are self righteousness. We all know how Jesus and John the Baptist treated legalistic self righteous people. KJV *preference* is totally fine so that's not who I'm speaking about. I'm speaking of the looney toons that think if you know Greek/Hebrew you should learn English just to read the KJV.
Sounds like IFB. I was in one for 16 years and the Lord got me out and into a Presbyterian church. They are horribly abusive in most IFB churches.
Thank you Pastor Matt. I love my KJV and can't get enough of it. Have a few other translations that I use as cross reference and commentary. My hearts desire was to be able to understand and speak the KJV. I prayed about it. And I worked hard. And God gave me my hearts desire to get comfortable and know the KJV. I do illicit help from my commentaries when needed.(MacArthur, Sproul, Chuck Smith, Jamieson-Fausset-Brown, Nelson and Zondervan). Seek and Ye shall find. Keep up the great work Pastor Matt and thank you for your honesty and concern.
so many good translations we should be thankful for the gifts of them
Appreciate your channel. Love the bible reviews. You have a grace and peace about you that is essential for all of us.
It’s one of my favorite channels.
I really appreciate your gracious nature in this and other issues brother. KJVO, or holding onto the KJV for as long as we have, has harmed the TR position historically. I use the NKJV and the Greek text I use is the Textus Receptus. I love the KJV and I gladly preach from it, but there is a need for an update of the language.
Perfect! Honest! And from one who loves the KJV. THANKS
I was born and raised in a KJVO church. Started reading from the NASB when I was 24 and it was life changing. I now enjoy about 7 different main translations- there’s something that I love and appreciate about all of them.
@@ChathuraImbulagoda scripture has been preserved through many different translations in many different languages. I’m blessed to have 7 different of those translations and read from each one. Some languages only have one translation. English speaking Christians are blessed with several different options. God has blessed us. The fact that I enjoy those translations is an added bonus.
There are the times when someone says something to you and you don't understand it. You ask them to repeat it. When they repeat it, it will probably be with different words, or expanded more, or detailed in some other way - and then you get it!
Reading a variety of translations can have the same impact - simple!!
And now you're confused and abandoning the faith....
I'm not. How would you know? @@MarkDouglass-dt9ky
I use kjv only for witnessing. When I used different versions I had trouble quoting scripture. The other versions seem watered down compared to the kjv. When I was a new Christian my church switched from kjv, to nasb, to niv and so on. I had memorized in kjv and when witnessing I would quote a verse and then the other versions wouldn't say the same thing when I turn to the verse in their bible versions. Ted A.
Also if you point KJVO people to the preface of the 1611 they’ll become like crickets. The reason being the translators of the 1611 said in the preface if any more reliable or older manuscripts come along in the future that the English translation should be improved upon. Love it!
And, there was a quote in the preface of the original KJV from the Geneva Bible.
I've read the preface and they said no such thing. They plainly said there mark was one principal Bible not to be just expected against. They already knew of the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Bezae and rejected them both despite being very old.
Even if that were true people who believe they have perfect word of God don't look to the authority of translators, but the providence of God. Apologist for modern versions are the ones look to the authority of Bruce Metzger,Daniel Wallace, DC Parker etc to tell them what Bible is.
@@Derby_City_DasherI'm sorry to bust your bubble but the King James Bible is not the only Bible sorry. The Geneva Bible was before the King James❤
Ye do greatly err, not knowing the scriptures neither the power of God! When Nebuchadrezzar king of babylon besieged the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Had Nebuchadrezzar known that he was doing the Lord’s will or that he was his servant? If thou knowest truly who the jesuits are, what they were made for and how they do things, how they function, one would come to the conclusion that they would not be used of God for they and their ways are contrary to God. But God hath used them to punish countries that rebelled against him and have done evil in the Lord’s sight.
Ye foolishly think that because the translators are the ones to have written the translation, since they were the last visible thing to have been seen and to have formed the Authorized Book, ye believe that they are our final authority, ye think they are the roots that brought forth the tree of the King Book of books. Ye are nothing more than practicing atheists. It is only sight, what we can see, what we can handle (manuscripts, originals, the greek and hebrew and not faith that God perfectly preserved his words through sinful men).
Great video. I feel like this one needed to be made. It could definitely help a lot who are stuck in that movement. Your videos are a huge blessing Pastor!!
Thank you, Pastor Matt, for this great video.
In the beginning, I wondered whether I agreed with your three-pronged definition of KJVO, but after the video I ended up agreeing. At first I thought the definition was far too extreme. However, I think now that it is actually very helpful and careful. Specifically, your definition of KJVO excludes those who hold to the superiority of the KJV yet do not hold to the idea that it is superior even to the Greek and Hebrew. It also excludes those who do not disparage people for using other translations. An excellent example of this kind of person is actually the man whose book you have lying on the desk behind you-Dr. Joel Beeke. He is someone who holds very strongly to the superiority of the KJV, yet is a man so full of grace and humility that I could hardly characterize him as KJVO.
Thanks again for your work, brother!
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. PLEASE READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Well said I'm a new King James or King James guy myself and prefer the TR but as Christians we should do all things with the spirit of Christ and I've noticed the same thing about many King James onlyist.
If the king James was good enough for the apostle Paul and the disciples is good enough for me
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Interestingly, at Pentecost, the Holy Spirit did not change the ears of the crowd so they could understand the apostles speaking in their native language. Instead he gave the gift of tongues to the believers, so the crowd could hear, and understand the gospel in their own language. “And many were added to their number that day.”
When the Bible is translated into other languages do the translators go back to the KJV or the original manuscripts. For example, if a scholar was going to translate the Greek or Hebrew into Spanish they wouldn’t go consult the KJV. Obviously they would go back to original manuscripts. So why then when we translate the Bible into English do people insist that only the KJV can have the “right” translation? That line of thinking is inconsistent and obscure.
I’m not sure the logic of you brining you Acts 2. By your logic you should be able to listen to the Bible in French and let the HS translate it for you in English. I’m not denying the gift of tongues in that passage, I’m just saying that what Matt is talking about and what you wrote here are not even comparable. Translating has nothing to do with the gift of tongues at Pentecost, giving understanding to the hearers.
That was a great and truthful comment.
Thank you so much for presenting a great balance of translations and a taking an intellectual approach to why KJVO is truly an unbalanced and flawed argument. I read KJV, ESV and NASB and benefit from all of them.
On what basis do you pick which reading you believe when the 3 differ?
@@joeymac6970 They nearly always differ some but my main reading translation is the ESV. I have no definitive answer to that question.
@@ronjones6555 Well, credit for an honest answer.
@@joeymac6970 What is your preferred translation?
@@ronjones6555 The KJB.
But it’s not a case of being preferred
It’s a case of me being believing, and being fully persuaded that the KJB is the word of God, THE Bible for English speaking people.
This is due to reasons of logical, deductive reasoning both in regards to textual history/criticism, and of course, faith.
Love your channel. I belong to a PCA church in Sumter SC and I’m new to reformed theology as I came out of a Charismatic church. You have helped me grow.
Good video. Don’t worry. I won’t beat you up. I like the KJV but I primarily use the LSB. The LSB is probably going to be the last translation I will buy because I own a good selection of conservative translations. We would do well to support ministries that are trying to get the Bible out to non-English speaking countries that need a Bible. A few years ago the church I go to had one of our missionaries on a Sunday night. He pastors a church in Italy. I asked him how Italian translations are available in Italian. He stated four. We have way more English translations than we need, some good, some not good. We should really put a greater effort to get Bibles out to people who don’t have one, meaning non-English. Thank you for this video.
One more thing. (I keep adding to my comments.). When my wife and I lived in Alaska, we were told to try a church not far from us. I made the decision not to go there because the church’s website advertised KJV 1611; I doubt it actually used the 1611 version because it’s so unreadable today. The same church said the KJV was God’s choice for the English speaking world. That’s false advertising.
Great discussion. The way we love each other is a Christian's strongest testimony. As far as the translations, I see value in them all, depending on the target group. I personally love the NKJV and HCSB, as well as the NIV for general witnessing.
About 6 to 7 months ago I decided to make some changes in my life to better myself. Getting closer to God was one of them. So I bought a KJV Bible to read. I really wanted to understand it so bad. But because of the old, and outdated language used in it I had a hard time understanding it. It has words in it that are no longer a part of the English language, and words that the meaning of them have changed over the centuries which make it hard to understand. I'm not against the KJV. If you can understand it great, read it. But after 3 weeks to a month of struggling with the KJV, I purchased a 95 reference NASB Bible. I can understand it better. I just want to read the Bible to understand about God's past. Not to go through the Bible word for word and scrutinize words or phrases that you disagree with. That is a bit too much in my book. I have learned alot from my 95 NASB Bible, and it suites my needs very well
I've had many conversations about the Bible with all different types of people (atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics, KJVO people, etc.). The two most closed minded, rude, and emotionally charged people I've talked with are atheists and KJVO people, hands down. Something isn't right with the KJVO crowd when they claim to know the Lord, but yet are as nasty as atheists.
True, I was in a groupchat and someone was called an f word (rhymes with maggot) for reading another bible translation other than kjv. Truly bizarre.
Hello friend!
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Yes, the biggest religious jerks I’ve encountered in my life are the KJV only-ists. And I like and read the KJT and NKJV. Also NASB sometimes.
Well when you are so invested in the corruptions of other Bibles it's easy to understand why! KJV have not only commitment to the Words of God but Doctrine, and when you tae your doctrines from a corrupted book you can end up falling for wrong doctrine.
The doctrine of hell fire for example, a lot of Christians are convinced that hell doesn't exist.
I prefer be mean and be honest and stick with my position, instead of deceive you with flattery.
But I agree that can be pretty over the top in some circunstances.
Personaly, I try to be caring towards other people. However, my faith and my position is not based at how people treat me. Is based in what God says.
Closed minded is a great thing, as long you are closed minded to God Jesus Christ the Son and Holy Spirit.. No wonder the Bible says to separate ourselves from the world.
The world is full of lies!
The hardcore KJV onlyists idolize the version.
At the end of the day, if the KJV was good enough for Paul it should be good enough for us 🙃
This one made me laugh out loud! Well put, Mr. Cooper!
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HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
This is the same for me... Thank you Matthew for your kindness in this subject.
I am just happy with anyone picking up A Bible for the first time. Loved your response to these people. Wasn't even aware that this was a controversy
Thanks for this video Pastor Matt. Really appreciate your civilized ways to present your conclusions. A similar thing happens to us Spanish speakers (I live in Honduras)... People insult others because they read such and such translation, calling them names, etc. There are even entire series preached over several weeks and months telling the congregation why everyone else is either satanic or a false prophet, or just plain stupid, instead of preaching Christ, and Him crucified... They are forming modern-day pharisees and saducees, not disciples. It is sad because It only hurts the body of Christ and gives non-Christians and backsliders a reason to reject Christ. Jesus preached love for one another, and some of these brothers are preaching hate one another... Thanks again! Blessings to you, your family and for your work in the Kingdom.
Bravo Matt. Well said brother. I think you especially nailed #1 and #2, Vile attitude and Anti-intellectual. These have been the biggest issues I have had with the kjvo. Well said. Thanks for the vulnerability as well.
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Hello friend!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Preach, brother, preach! I wish more people would take the time to understand the validity of your argumentation.
Grew up in KJVO church/family. Spent 10 years wandering through many translations that are great. However, returned to KJV because it's the one I have in my memory. For sure, not KJVO. At all.
I love the KJV too! But not KJVO
KJV is a beautiful translation and it's ok to prefer it.
This is my first time to watch your video because I thought you are KJV only but when I found the title of this video I decided to watch it.I used to be a KJV only during my early years as a christian.I was saved at Billy Graham 1977 crusade in Philippines and was given a Good News Bible new testament a year later I started to attend a baptist church who prefers the KJV in congregational bible reading and Sunday School classes,Bible Studies.Later I was given a brochure by J.J.Ray listing Bibles that is corrupt and was told to stick to KJV because reading other versions would only make me worldly,compromiser and ecumenical and possibly lead me back to the RCC from which I was raised.So to make a long story short I read years later the pamphlet Bible Translations by Robert L.Sumner and King James Only?by R.A Joyner and did more research I no longer am a KJV only but still use KJV but open to read NKJV,NASV,NIV NLT and recently ESV.What you said is true because those arguments are what I used myself toward those who read modern versions base on critical text.Thank you for this video.
I am reading completely through KJV this year. I love it very much. The elegance and tradition but I really enjoy the ESV as well. I am looking forward to the LSB too. I will likely read that one next year.
KJP (King James PRIMARY) seems like a better way to appreciate and use the KJV, where it may be your go-to bible, but if something doesn't make sense or if you think another translation translates the text more accurately, you're open to using it.
Yes,translations preferences can be a stumbling block because of pride.I am a 35 year kjv person and learned about some of these issues back in the 90s and really received a lot of flack for kjv because everyone prefered modern translations.But now because so much information is on line the shoe is on the other foot.I think if the Apostle Paul was here he would be dealing with us about mutual respect rather than best translation.Ones favorite translation is a very personal thing with them and insults fractures the body.I also myself love the rsv.Between the two I get a pretty good reading
Hello Steve!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
@@victorgeorgian8634 Thanks I will take a look at it
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With best regards!
I think I'm on similar viewpoint as you do. I still love the KJV above all others, but there are many verses that totally do not make sense to me, a non-native English speaker. I need to refer to the RSV or ESV sometimes to help me understand the verses in the KJV. I do love the RSV too, but for some reasons I don't like the ESV as much as the RSV.
Don’t worry. I’ve found the angriest and most opinionated Christians are folks I just care to ignore. I love Jesus and seek God’s will every day. He speaks to His people in countless ways. However I’ve never heard a word from him in King James English.
Before there was a KJV God spoke to his people as He still does to this day.
I am thankful He does.
“If you want to hear from God, read your Bible. If you want to hear from God audibly read your Bible out loud.”
Great. Love the ESV. I have used Kjv for past 50 years. No use arguing with these people. True all you said.
I remember one time I left a comment on a KJVO video where I used every single KJVO argument presented in the video except four the Modern English Version which is a majority text Bible like the KJV but with modern language. I’m not entirely proud for inciting verbal violence in the comment section that day but at the end it did prove my point that most KJVO arguments are very subjective, emotional and often grounded in conspiracy which you can virtually apply to just about anything.
That day also taught me that just because you may be angry and passionate about something doesn’t mean you’re right about it. There are times where I almost can’t consider my IFB KJVO brothers and sisters as genuinely Christian because of the rotten fruit that they often bare. But only God can judge that. May God always work in us to help us to overcome our misguided zeal in all stages of our life; KJVO or otherwise. Lord Jesus forgive us when we honor you with our lips but our hearts are far from you.
Do you not read your Bible? Not the KJV obviously. Your’s waters everything down. The Lord rewarded a man named Phinehas for being zealous for his God. You know how? By killing. Wow didn’t know that about The Lords character did you? It’s not all about you getting along with people, it’s about The Lord 1st and foremost and His word and then you’ll get along and have unity. Not compromising so everyone can get along.
I have faith of what God said, my emotions have nothing to do with faith. It’s the exact opposite.
KJV only’s are ZEALOUS over Gods word because it is the perfect word of God. We don’t appreciate people who attack it.
@@ThePreachersDaughterKJV1611 My friend, zeal is no excuse for ignorance and the one who is zealous without knowledge sins (Proverbs 19:2). The Jews were zealous for God, but missed the gospel. (Romans 10:2) Peter was zealous for Jesus by cutting off the ear of the high priests servant but was rebuked for it (Mark 14:47) and Apollos was zealous for the Gospel but still needed instruction from Priscilla and Aquila (Acts 18:24 -26). It is foolish, my friend, to think that you are above correction because of your zeal.
As I said in my comment, KJVO arguments are subjective and emotional and you, like many other before, have proved that to me once more. I encourage you, my friend, as I do with myself in these matters to consider the possibility that you may be incorrect in your view. Prudent humility is far better than ignorant zeal. I’m not even encouraging you to abandon the KJV as it still holds up as a treasure in the line of God’s word to the world.
I simply encourage you to not ridicule, mock and revile others simply because they are not convinced that the KJV is the only perfect translation of God’s word. I personally came to the truth of the gospel through the NIV which taught me of my sin before a Holy God who loved me so much that he sent his Son to die as a sacrifice of atonement on my behalf and that faith in his name and perfect work on the cross will lead me to everlasting life.
If the Devil was the one who inspired all of these modern bible version, then he did a terrible job because I still came to an accurate understanding of the gospel message as Christ the Son of God came, lived, was buried, rose again and ascended to the right hand of the Father and will one day return to judge the living and the dead.
Just a FYI, the “Majority Text” and the “Textus Receptus” that the KJV is based on are not the same thing.
@@SaneNoMore correct, I am aware of that though the TR does stem from the byzantine line of mss and is often touted as a majority text GNT in KJVO circles.
Peter Ruckman, for one, didn't appear to believe that the KJV was a translation. He believed that it was entirely reinspired, and was therefore a whole new autograph.
Ruckman was a wacko heretic.
@@innovationhq8230 I agree.
And that still sounds better than the stuff Daniel Wallace says “We do not have now - in any of our critical Greek texts or in any translations - exactly what the authors of the New Testament wrote. Even if we did, we would not know it. There are many, many places in which the text of the New Testament is uncertain.”
Elijah Hixson & Peter Gurry. Myths & Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism. xii. Quote by Dan Wallace.
Even among many IFB Ruckman was considered a nut job.
Actually that's a misrepresentation of what Dr. Ruckman believed. That's also a logical fallacy called a Strawman. Not only that, regardless of what you think of the character of Dr. Ruckman, it's more important that as reasonable, thinking, and logical creatures of God we should deal with the *actual* argument than the person making the argument. This logical fallacy was covered in this video - ad hominem.
I was reading the gospels( book of John) in 2002 when the Holy Spirit removed the scales from my spiritual eyes, convicted me of my sins and showed me who Jesus Christ really was. I became a born again believer that moment when I saw Jesus Christ’s glory and Beauty, HE is the forgiver of sins and my Savior. I was reading the Bible gifted to me by my friend and it was an NIV study bible. I know that God revealed to me that Jesus Christ is Lord from this version of the Bible. Now, my husband and I use both ESV and NIV for personal study. I read NLT to our children when we study as a family. Thanks for this video
Thank you for your willingness to take this on brother.
Yup, that took some stones
Hello Jacob!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I was trained and even taught in an IFB church that was KJVO. I deeply loved the people in my home church but when I moved to go to Bible school I was opened up to the movement as a whole and found it to be very legalistic, uncharitable, schismatic, misogynistic and at my school in Greenville S.C. they were also quite racist at the time (not saying that is true today). I left that denomination and after 30 years of study and growth I still hold the same doctrine in every other area but I have found the KJVO argument untenable. I miss my old home church and have never found another like it but I can not even fathom how that denomination has moved to the point that they now actually teach the KJV is inspired. That was not something they taught back then and is in my opinion a form of idolatry. Because of how they behave and the direction they have taken I sadly find myself shying away from using the KJV at all despite my former love for it and my deep respect for its pure majesty. In fact I no longer carry a KJV at all and out of over 80 bibles on my shelf (I like study bibles) only 4 are KJV and even then, only because that was the only translation that particular study Bible came in.
I have a copy of the 1611 KJV as it was originally written. I can barely read it. I believe it's been revised three times since 1611. So was the KJV corrupt until the revision we have today was complete?
The primary reason I never read the KJV, which many say is a beautiful translation, is because of KJV Onlyists. KJVO pushes people away from the KJV.
I think that's not an argument against reading the KJV. The KJV ist still a great translation. Some guys are KJV-Onlyist's because it's such a beautiful translation! I would strongly disagree with their position, because there are some other great translations worth of reading (NKJV, ESV, NASB, ...), but the KJV is what puritans and revival preachers read, a good translation!
God bless, brother!
This is a great presentation of what can be a difficult topic.I read the king james bible but realise the new king james and ESV are also good translations in the English language. I also studied a few other languages including the original hebrew and Greek. Yes if you are not English e.g. Russian or Arab you will want the scriptues in your own language
Thank you for this important video. I almost fell into the KJV-onlyism trap as a new believer. I praise God that a married couple from my church invited me into their home for a meal and took the time to explain how/why I was headed in the wrong direction on that issue. These days, I do my reading from KJV and ESV translations in my quiet time, and NKJV at church which is what my pastor uses in sermons. To God be the glory!
When I’m working through my own translations of the Greek and I compare them to the KJV, I find the the KJV to be marvellously accurate and incredibly beautiful.
Yes the KJV is textus receptive and it shouldn't be have than 2% difference with majority text and critical text. We are mostly disputing with these 2% differences.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
There is no better guide, teacher and helper than the Holy Spirit but sadly, the KJ bible is supernaturally changing.
There are thousands of changes that have taken place right under our noses in the KJ bible. This is where it’s mind blowing that KING JAMES bible ONLY believing pastors and watchmen, do not see these wicked changes taking place, instead.... they defend it. Do they even know who they are defending? It's Satan!
Also, there are many SAVED Christians in Christ Jesus that do not see these changes.
Clearly, these are the Bible Prophecies Unfolding!! Read Amos 8:11-12 KJB, Daniel 7:25 KJB and 2 Thess. 2:8-11 KJB.
Revelation 22:10 KJB - And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (It's already at hand folks, do you see that verse in Rev. 22:10 KJB where it says "SEAL NOT"?)!!
The STRONG DELUSION has arrived. ARE YOU AWAKE TO SEE IT? The KJ bible is the BEAST, looking right at you when you read it.
Satan has been using his abilities supernaturally according to the rules of engagement and some of these moves has been supernaturally changing the King James bible. Satan inspired all the counterfeit and corrupted modern English versions and the Holy Spirit inspired men and women of God to defend and teach from the King James Bible as the only preserved, inspired, and inerrant written Word of God. Don't know how many decades Satan has supernaturally been changing the King James, but I think it's been in correlation to the amount of Satanism and witchcraft by man to participate with his kingdom, fighting God's Kingdom. So, when more doors into the occult were opened when CERN came online because witchcraft is part of the operation of all the LHC's (The Large Hadron Collider - CERN), the amount of supernatural attacks has occurred on God's written Word in the KJB.
"I'm sure that most of you already know about this change. But did you know specifically why a WOLF has replaced the Lion in Isaiah 11:6 KJ bible?
It's because God in His great mercy is warning you that Satan is on the loose, and that he is trying to dwell with you. By this change, God is also warning those with eyes to see that the bible has been tampered with. There are thousands more of these wicked bible changes. Held under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit, these changes are also cryptically praising Satan, homosexuality, cannibalism, sexual vulgarity and antichrist blasphemy." Quote from Truth Shock TV
It just proves that we must be very close to the end of the church age of Grace, Jesus Christ is coming very soon for His Church (SAVED BELIEVERS in the Body of Christ).
God's word is written and hidden in our hearts forever!!
John 1:1 KJ bible - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
As you see in this verse, it does NOT say, in the beginning was the bible.... now does it? NO!!
It's through the kj bible, Satan is deceiving many; this will include many who are kj bible only believing pastors, watchmen, watchwomen and members of a church, who never personally embraced Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, who is Jesus Christ, who IS the Word but is embracing the bible more than the Word, who IS Jesus Christ.
Do not give power to a mere book written in ink on paper and do not make it your idol and your god. Rev. 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Jezebel the harlot/Babylon).
That's the kj bible that has supernaturally changed and it's now, Satan's territory.
There is ONLY one God and He is our Creator, the Almighty God whom we need to worship and trust ALWAYS, Amen!!
Here is a message for lost souls - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, SAVES lost souls, please read it and BELIEVE truly from your heart How that Christ died for our sins, He was buried and He rose on the third day according to the scriptures!! Please get saved now before it's too late for your soul!!
Heaven and Hell are REAL, LITERAL places.
1 ETERNITY to choose from, HEAVEN or HELL, choose wisely for your soul.
Grace and Peace to all in Jesus Christ!!
@@1Corinthians15_1-4 I too have seen in my 3 KJV bibles , 1Nkjv study bible and my KJV bible app have all mysteriously changed from what they read when i first read them . I too also thank Truth Shocks Tv for showing the false preachers and pastors who read passages that are clearly corrupted and refusing to believe it has been changed. I didn't know much about CERN till i watched truth shocks tv ,that blew my mind
when i tried to explain to my wife; she didn't believe my explanation . Both her and my eldest childrn have both said that they think i'm going mad.,but i know the truth of it and the LION shall lay with the lamb Not the wolf.
@@rudeboycue
Amen!!
So glad that you see these wicked changes. Please send me a friend's request on Facebook, under my name. There is a group called the Mandela Effect and the changes happening in the kjbible, would love to have you in that group; this is where we discuss all the supernatural changes.
Only 1% see and it is not easy for those who have made their bible their god and their idol, instead of giving all the glory and praise to God our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. John 1:1
Keep in touch please.
Grace and Peace.
Hey - I was raised on KJVo but understand what you are saying. No arguement from me. I am using ESV. I like NLT.
Hello friend!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Which Bible serves the glory of God best…. a KJV that collects dust because someone struggles to understand it, or a ESV/NKJV/CSB that someone can read & God reveal Himself to them in all His Glory?
I completely agree with you here. I actually used to be KJV-Only, but after considering what the other side has to say about the issue, I realised how baseless and bad the arguments are for saying that the King James Bible is the only translation we should use. Another problem with their position is that the Church existed almost 1,600 years without the KJV, so are we supposed to believe that the church didn't have the true Word of God, until the King James translators came in to fill that gap? The fact of the matter is, the church has always had the scriptures, so we don't need the KJV to say that we have the Word of God in front of us.
Also, KJV-Onlyists like to argue that the Textus Receptus agrees with the majority of Greek manuscripts and that that should be our standard for determining the original text, and yet, there are actually times where the T.R. disagrees with the majority text, like in the Book of Revelation (e.g. the majority text says "tree of life" instead of "book of life" in Revelation 22:19).
While I do love the KJV, there are definitely problems with saying that it's the only translation we should use. Mike Winger did a great video explaining why the Critical Text disagrees with the Textus Receptus in this video. It was actually one of the things that made me change my mind on this issue:
czcams.com/video/G0VE7f-CzOQ/video.html
The story of how even Erasmus didn’t like his own text of Revelation is an interesting one.
One thing the KJVO people don’t know or understand is that the KJV is NOT an original translation. It is a 95-99% verbatim copy of the Geneva Bible which is actually the one the Pilgrims brought with them on the Mayflower to the New World
I teened up, spent my teens, in an KJVO church. While I miss some of the relationships and friends I had there, you speak the truth. The vitriol they give when you leave or disagree with them on the translation is cult like.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Yes , I was saved out of Mormonism, (who are KJVO too lol) and notice when I studied the Steven Anderson KJVO NIFB that they were very cult like..
The biggest heresy I have ever herd was that someone could only be saved by reading the kjv. 😑
@@jasonl7255 The gospel is that Jesus Christ died and rose again to save sinners. We are saved by grace alone threw faith alone in Christ
Alone. Christ is the only means of salvation there is no other way than to put your faith in Him. It is His work on the cross that redeems us and his rightousnes that's makes us justified. So that no man can boast.
@@jasonl7255 you can never loose your salvation. That would make Christ's work on the cross imperfect. Romans 8: 28-30 nothing can separate us from the love of Christ
Man, pastor Matt with all the uploads in the past two days! 😄
No kidding! It’s awesome.
Love the KJV as that is how I first learned scripture. It is just not how we speak any longer.
^^ This! ^^
For the most part “missing” words in ESV are italicized in the KJV, which means that they are not in God’s revealed Word, but were ADDED to the KJV for clarification.
In other instances, the “missing” word is simply placed in a different word order, so that the word order is more compatible with how we speak today vs old English.
Yes, and many of the supposed missing verses are often in the footnotes as "some translations add the verse : ..."
That is one major flaw of the ESV. It does not italicize interpolated words of the translators. Perhaps because it is not as literal as advertized similar to the NASB who is also not that literal.
KJV/NKJV/NASB do italicize those.
@@konstantinallinforchrist9867 One other issue I think the ESV failed on was the constant use of “some manuscripts say” in the footnotes instead of actually identifying which school of manuscripts the variant reading is from, like what the NKJV does in its footnotes.
They wouldn’t care.
Jesus Himself saved me and no books were involved.
I used to be kjvo but then I just looked into the critical text and I was confused as to why it was an argument as to which one was “superior” because they are both great in their own regard. My 2 favorite translations are now the CSB and NET. I also use ESV and KJV they’re just not my favorites. I also now own a copy of the MT and 2 copies of the Critical text.
God bless you, Pastor. This seems to be a difficult topic to discuss. But you approached it with grace and wisdom. I mostly read the NASB, NLT, and NKJV and I have been blessed many times over from those translations. I just recently have been reading the KJV and appreciating it and will continue to do so along with the previous mentioned translations.
Kjv is wonderful. I have 3 copies, 1611, 1970, and a brand new 2005 blue leather copy. But I prefer to study in NKJV, TS2009 and NASB. Strongs is a tough read but great study tool.
Those are some good translations!
I love the KJV and NKJV but I am definitely not an KJVO I honestly prefer the NLT because it’s super easy to understand! But it doesn’t mean I only read NLT even tho I prefer it because there are some verses missing so when I do have a Bible study I read to both perspective 🙌🏼
So even tho I have brothers and sisters telling me that I should only rely on the KJV because the rest of the translation is satanic I can only say that it is between me and God not you and me. For scriptures says for both translations
“You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right.”
Romans 14:22 NLT
“Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.”
Romans 14:22 KJV
Godbless you guys 🙌🏼 and Godbless you brother for this amazing video 🙌🏼!!!
I was once a KJVO and boy does this position have so many flaws and you're right, KJ onlyists commit these fallacies all the time, especially the ones I've spoken to. This was a good video. Thank u
Great. Clearly communicates my own view on this. Thanks Matt. "Love you lots" too!
Matthew, stay courageous. I will be speaking on the KJVO movement in a couple of weeks from this post.
I would like to sincerely thank you for stating things as you did concerning people who are KJVO. I am shocked by their behaviour and to hear a preacher describe their behaviour as you did gives me comfort. I am deeply distressed by their attacks and I wonder how deeply it hurts the heart of God. Thank you for calling them out plainly .
I too am not KJV-o either.
However I am Textus Receptus only.
I don't trust the Alexandrian texts
Let’s call it what it is. If anyone thinks the KJV is better than the original languages used and read by Jesus and the apostles, they are a cult.
Thanks, Matt... this was an insightful video.
I love the KJV and i have a lot of them compared to the other translations i own. But i prefer and read the NASB
i read the Complete Jewish Study Bible,KJV(for choir reasons),NIV(my favorite translation)and 15 other translations.I compare them with the Interlinear/CJSB I have if I have any doubts
Hello friend!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
Great video. I almost fell for this movement
Same
Hello Khrista!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I use and read the KJV the most, But when I study I always use KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV, and NLT. I feel like when I use those translations when studying I have a great grasp on what the text says it means.
Check out the CSB
I also have RSV and NRSV versions as well but I still go to the KJV which I have in the
Thomas chain version I never heard or own one before this year
Brother, polemics is not “Christians arguing against one another,” but is in a sense the opposite of apologetics but with the same goal…is the “offensive” contrast to the “defense” that is apologetics, ie polemics is attacking (nicely!) OTHER religions and philosophical systems as inadequate.
Thank you for this. I have a pastor friend who is KJVO and while he is a brother in the faith, he quite bluntly trashes the other translations. He keeps trying to convince me to get rid of my other bibles. I appreciate this video very much.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH you are out of your mind to believe immortal God died for you.
@@konstantinallinforchrist9867
“and you shall call His Name Emmanuel (with us is GOD)”
@@Praise___YaH are you aware that it can very well can be interpreted 'God with us' and not against us?
@@konstantinallinforchrist9867
Isaiah 9:6
כִּי־יֶלֶד יֻלַּד־לָנוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָנוּ וַתְּהִי הַמִּשְׂרָה עַל־שִׁכְמוֹ וַיִּקְרָא שְׁמוֹ פֶּלֶא יוֹעֵץ אֵל גִּבּוֹר אֲבִיעַד שַׂר־שָׁלוֹם
Which reads:
For unto us a Lad has arrived, the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty One, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
“a Lad has arrived” - NOT “a child born”
“Everlasting Father” - YaH is The Everlasting FATHER
Sir, it’s been YaH The Heavenly Father this whole time, that’s the Parable, that’s the Riddle
Praise YaH and no other
Is it me or does what you’re describing sound like a cult? Ever see a church that was KJV only that wasn’t Baptist, especially of the Free Will kind? When you add the other errors they typically hold in other major categories, how are we supposed to count them as fellow saints?
I’m KJVO. And all do respect but, just because you disagree with something in another denomination it doesn’t make them a cult. I’m not angry or trying to argue but from Brother in Christ to Brother in Christ, I ask you to respect my opinion in keeping God’s word pure.
James Snapp taking on 2 KJVO’s at once Saturday night live, April 20th, 8pm, debating I John 5:7 at Standing for Truth with Donny hosting. Should be a good one.
The KJV was my first English version... I still read and study from it but no longer my main version. NKJV, ESV, NASB, KJV, and TLV in that order are now my main.
I have run into these arguments from those who adhere to only the KJV.
I am not someone who knows Hebrew, or Greek, but I make use of Interlinear bibles, which is partly why I am not KJVO anymore. Also, as someone who taught Sunday School, I would compare many versions. The meaning does not change, but 10-13 year olds did not understand the KJV as well. I thought it was better to let them read from versions they could better understand for themselves.
I still love the KJV, but using other versions can aid in my own understanding as well.
Some KJV-only types on CZcams are real deceitful. They post videos with clickbait titles like "I used to be a KJV-only, but..." and then sucker people into watching in their videos to show how KJV-only they really are.
I have a bad brain injury and easily get distracted in the beautiful KJV I was raised with. That sucks, right? The NKJV and others keep me in the game. Sure, there are some flakey versions out there, but growing up KJV helps weed those out pretty quick. Meanwhile, other versions help amplify and clarify the KJV. Even the dreaded "Action Bible" has helped. This was an EXCELLENT treatise on a difficult, sometimes emotionally-charged subject. THANK YOU and much respect for being willing to tackle it!
Wow, that sounds really bizarre. So you basically can't read any piece of literature that isn't in plain, direct language?
This was a great video. I grew up in the KJVO movement and my current church leans that way. Not everyone on the KJVO side disregard the Greek/Hebrew and translation for other nations. That being said it is the minority. I appreciate your grace and understanding.
Yeah, that's the Ruckmanite wing, the most extreme form of KJVO.
I see a few differences in other translations that bother me. Genesis 12:7 uses “Descendants” rather than “Seed” for the heirs of the promise to Abram. In Galatians 3:15-20 Paul clearly defines what GOD was saying, even in telling us it is “Seed not Seeds” as in singular, not plural, and the seed is Christ. A very horrific error IMO. It changes the meaning of the text. That is only 1. I have a NASB, NLT & NKJV and feel like I should stick to my KJV. I have prayed on it intently and have come to that conclusion. Although I do like the NASB and NKJV, the NLT is not for me. As long as the gospel is correct, I suppose I have no issues with other translations. My first Bible was an ESV paperback, so I do want to get an ESV study, but my next Bible is an KJV Allen 5WM wide margin.. Great arguments. I enjoy the channel. Keep up the great work.
Sadly, I have heard and KJ Onlyist respond to a question that was asked something like this “ If someone who speaks Russian wants to read the Bible, do they need to learn English” sadly the KJ Onlyist said yes.
My least favorite theological conversation is bible translations and you've summed up how I see this issue very well.
I LOVE my KJV, but I also enjoy ESV, CSV & NASB
1. The King James Version of the Holy Scriptures was established as the Standard in English way before either of us were born. There's no presumption in recognizing this fact of history.
2. Those who appose the continued use of the King James Version of the Holy Scriptures in our churches have repeatedly stated, "The only difference between a modern version and the King James Version is modern words." So, pointing out actual differences such as missing verses is not circular reasoning. Certainly not in rebuttal to those mistaken assertions.
Ruckman caused a Ruckus!
Why I am KJVO: because it is one of the very few Bibles which reveals the doctrine of the Faith of Christ, (Gal 2:16) how we are justified by the Faith of Christ, and how we are gifted the Faith of Christ. (Eph 2:8; Rom 3:30)
my professor in college said there were many translation errors in the kjv. He also said there are translation errors in the Douay-Rheims. There are obvious biases in the kjv against Catholicism. To say that the kjv is excellent with no errors is a lie.
I think I find myself way on the opposite side of the KJVO proponents! The first time I encountered the KJVO argument, I thought it was the most wacky thing thing I had ever heard. English is not my first language and I was trying to picture my grandmothers reading the Bible without understanding a word. What struck me as really odd, was that the arguments centered around the translation, not the Greek manuscripts. That is like starting on the middle rung of a tall ladder! Also, why would God not provide us with his Word until 1500-1600 years after the church was born.
As a translation among many, I can respect and appreciate the KJV. It is not a good translation for me. While I read English just fine, the language of KJV still puts a barrier between me and the meaning. I will contend myself with appreciating KJV through quotes as heard in Handel’s Messiah. I prefer to read a variety of translations. Each time I start over reading the Bible, I pick a different version and/or language. It prevents my brain from falling asleep while reading.
I have not researched the LXX much or adequately to say much about it, but I get the impression it does differ from the Hebrew Old Testament. Yet, it was the Scripture Jesus and the disciples felt comfortable quoting and using. I presume the meaning was the same, even if the wording did not match.
I appreciate this video. I just wanted to post my initial reaction to encountering KJVO.
Matt great job, and you are so right about the Love of God in them.
I'm a Southern Baptist who agrees with you concerning the KJV. I love it; it's one of my favorite translations too. However, I'm not KJVO or even KJV-preferred.
Hello friend!
You can start with any Bible translation. But you need a really good steel sword to fight, to grow strong for years and years... You will be steeled.
So you don't need an iron or plastic sword anymore. It's not enogh. Don't be limited with a fastfood, which is Critical text's Bible translations are, and even Masoretic text.
Read Tyndale's New Testament and Brenton's Septuagint (real Old Testament).
KJV is changed Tyndale's Bible.
KJV is politicized a bit by the king, and has a bit some clergy's own teachings.
It's a problem almost of all Bible translations.
Such Christians like Tyndale* make real close to Original Bible translations.
* independent to political powers, money and clergy.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.
I have invincible ignorance in Jesus being the Son of God
KJV ONLYISM WORSHIPS THE KJV BIBLE NOT CHRIST! ITS A FORM OF IDOL WORSHIP!
I like NKJV as a modern translation, I prefer TR base bibles, however I use the NASB and TLV bibles as CR base I find the translations are accurate. But I Love my KJV. Thumbs up for your video.
Have you looked at the MEV translation? I haven’t yet. But people tell me to check it out.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I recommend getting one now then. I don’t think they are printing new ones and have abandoned it. I have one, and I like it a lot-I don’t see how anyone would ever strongly dislike it. It’s good. I don’t read it though. The reason I don’t read mine is that the quality of the physical Bible is so poor it’s distracting. The ghosting is incredible.
@@garythomas3150 ahh I see.
HERE is The Original Semitic Text. ALL OF YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
There is no better guide, teacher and helper than the Holy Spirit but sadly, the KJ bible is supernaturally changing.
There are thousands of changes that have taken place right under our noses in the KJ bible. This is where it’s mind blowing that KING JAMES bible ONLY believing pastors and watchmen, do not see these wicked changes taking place, instead.... they defend it. Do they even know who they are defending? It's Satan!
Also, there are many SAVED Christians in Christ Jesus that do not see these changes.
Clearly, these are the Bible Prophecies Unfolding!! Read Amos 8:11-12 KJB, Daniel 7:25 KJB and 2 Thess. 2:8-11 KJB.
Revelation 22:10 KJB - And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (It's already at hand folks, do you see that verse in Rev. 22:10 KJB where it says "SEAL NOT"?)!!
The STRONG DELUSION has arrived. ARE YOU AWAKE TO SEE IT? The KJ bible is the BEAST, looking right at you when you read it.
Satan has been using his abilities supernaturally according to the rules of engagement and some of these moves has been supernaturally changing the King James bible. Satan inspired all the counterfeit and corrupted modern English versions and the Holy Spirit inspired men and women of God to defend and teach from the King James Bible as the only preserved, inspired, and inerrant written Word of God. Don't know how many decades Satan has supernaturally been changing the King James, but I think it's been in correlation to the amount of Satanism and witchcraft by man to participate with his kingdom, fighting God's Kingdom. So, when more doors into the occult were opened when CERN came online because witchcraft is part of the operation of all the LHC's (The Large Hadron Collider - CERN), the amount of supernatural attacks has occurred on God's written Word in the KJB.
"I'm sure that most of you already know about this change. But did you know specifically why a WOLF has replaced the Lion in Isaiah 11:6 KJ bible?
It's because God in His great mercy is warning you that Satan is on the loose, and that he is trying to dwell with you. By this change, God is also warning those with eyes to see that the bible has been tampered with. There are thousands more of these wicked bible changes. Held under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit, these changes are also cryptically praising Satan, homosexuality, cannibalism, sexual vulgarity and antichrist blasphemy." Quote from Truth Shock TV
It just proves that we must be very close to the end of the church age of Grace, Jesus Christ is coming very soon for His Church (SAVED BELIEVERS in the Body of Christ).
God's word is written and hidden in our hearts forever!!
John 1:1 KJ bible - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
As you see in this verse, it does NOT say, in the beginning was the bible.... now does it? NO!!
It's through the kj bible, Satan is deceiving many; this will include many who are kj bible only believing pastors, watchmen, watchwomen and members of a church, who never personally embraced Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, who is Jesus Christ, who IS the Word but is embracing the bible more than the Word, who IS Jesus Christ.
Do not give power to a mere book written in ink on paper and do not make it your idol and your god. Rev. 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Jezebel the harlot/Babylon).
That's the kj bible that has supernaturally changed and it's now, Satan's territory.
There is ONLY one God and He is our Creator, the Almighty God whom we need to worship and trust ALWAYS, Amen!!
Here is a message for lost souls - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, SAVES lost souls, please read it and BELIEVE truly from your heart How that Christ died for our sins, He was buried and He rose on the third day according to the scriptures!! Please get saved now before it's too late for your soul!!
Heaven and Hell are REAL, LITERAL places.
1 ETERNITY to choose from, HEAVEN or HELL, choose wisely for your soul.
Grace and Peace to all in Jesus Christ!!
I got caught up in string KJV preference thing for a very short time. So many things pulled me from that thankfully. Although I do prefer TR manuscripts. Each translation has its strengths and weaknesses IMO. Use them all.
When I first heard of the King James Only movement, indeed I thought it was silly to elevate an English-language version to the status of an inspired text. But in looking into the matter, it seems as though nearly every other translation uses a New Testament that's based on the Alexandrian text-type instead of the Byzantine text-type. Rejecting the Alexandrian text-type, because, for example, it comes from a part of the world rife with certain heresies, is not nearly so unreasonable as claiming an English translation to have been inspired. It could still also be mistaken, of course.
Think about this. The KJV translators used the Greek text written by Erasmus, a Catholic priest and theologian.. So talk about heresy and error! The whole KJV is based on a Catholic text. I still like and read the KJV in spite of its origin. Let's be adults.
Which edition of the KJV?
The 1611, Cambridge, Oxford, etcetera.
You’ll have certain people arguing, “They are the exact same aside from the orthography.” Yet, there is a specific difference in Ezekiel 24:7 when you juxtapose the 1611 with the 1769 Oxford edition. This is one of many examples. If one is historically accurate, the other cannot be.
If they are going to be sticklers, they need to pick one.
I would probably be labeled, "KJVO", which is fine. I am not offended by the term. And I definitely empathize with you Bro. Matt about your experiences with some within the KJVO camp. I don't advocate that behavior at all, and it's not a compelling argument for the King James, as far as I am concerned. The KJV position can be established by logical inference, and good cogent, and coherent reasoning. I do find that the same behavior and characteristics of "non-KJVO" folks as well - but that doesn't make me reject their position. I would rather deal with the actual arguments than the people making the arguments. I do appreciate your video, and the insight it provides. I have read James White's book, and several other positions that are the antithesis to my belief about the KJB, and I do see a lot of logical (both formal, and informal) fallacies committed as well from their perspective. Arguments that do not follow, a lot of circular reasoning, and faulty appeals to authority, among many. However, I think one of the most prevalent fallacies committed by those that oppose the KJVO is strawman. They often misrepresent the foundational basis of my position - that I believe there is a perfect, pure, infallible, and inerrant Bible today. With all that said, I have written down notes on your video, so that I am careful not to misrepresent you myself, which, Lord willing, I can use to help my students truly understand the challenges to our position and formulate good logical reasons for why we believe what we believe. (1 Pet. 3:15; Col. 4:6). BTW, I am the son and brother of missionaries, and am a strong proponent of global, world-wide missions. I have both financially, and physically invested in global missions work for the last 38 years - which does include translation work. I believe any good KJVO proponent would support this position if they were honest with this approach and consistent biblically.
Thank you for what you said about the kjo argument that was very helpful we have kjo people here in England and its very confusing so thank you you made it very clear. God bless
I read my NLT for understanding, but refer back to my KJV for deeper meaning. But, our relationship with God doesn't come only from a book. Mainly prayer and repentance do that.
I don’t like having to ferret out the archaic language in the KJV. It is a beautiful translation if one is willing to use a Strongs concordance. I prefer the ESV, NASB, and NKJV in that order. Very nice video. Your approach is very irenic. We don’t need any more infighting in the body of Christ.
Try out the parallel KJV/NLT. Each helps clarify the other.
My last live stream I did it was about destroying King James only and 7th Day Adventist. And the reason why I did that video in that particular way was to invite the maximum amount of criticism so that a Seventh-Day Adventist could see that they do not have a very good argument for saying that the 2300 in Daniel 8:14 refers to 2300 years. And their whole religion Rises and falls on that believe. I made the mistake of while I was arranging my show I was listening to a live stream of a Seventh-Day Adventist show and I was a little edgy when I started my own show because I felt gaslighted in the chat room. So if you listen to the video and I sound angry or something I'm not really angry. But anyway I think it's very easy to use Daniel a improve 100% that King James only is wrong and also Seventh-Day adventism because first 26 of the same passage does not make sense if you translate first 14 to mean 2,300 days