Wow your tundra even has the same miles as mine and you helped me out greatly with your video it walked me right through this 8 hour job ....I will share it
I literally just finished replacing my 07 Tundra 5.7l 176,000 mile starter. I dropped the cat, cat heat shield, exhaust manifold fender heat plate, pulled the header (easy day), remove the starter heat shield, loosened the starter disconnected wiring and first harness bolt closet to the starter. Replaced everything in reverse all in all 4-5hrs saved $700 DIY dollars and used Sparks Toyota new starter @ $384 I've been turning wenches for 35 years and am always looking for short cuts but in my opinion removing header is the best option. No fluid loss, no bent shields or missing bolts.
I loved my tundra have a sequoia now but i would have freaking shotgunned the truck or the engineers lol. God bless you brother thank you for the video from the bottom of my heart
Hey guys i just did this replacement in 2.5 hours, Disconnect battery with 10mm Remove 10mm bolt holding down the dipstick on top and pull the dipstick tube up towards u Now get under the truck Take the single 12mm bolt that holds the transmission cooler hoses bracket (below passenger side catalytic converter) Remove the two 14mm bolts holding the starter (youll need a long wrench for the one top ) Pull starter off so now u can see and remove the 12mm bolt on the solenoid Disconnect the thin gray wire going to the solenoid Now the starter should be completely free Spin the starter around so the nose now faces toward the front of the truck (180 degrees) Spray some wd40 on the transmission cooler hoses because you will need to push them up away from you while you slip the starter out from under them. To reinstall reverse order 😬
I just done mine in 4 hours, probably could do it in 3 hrs now ,Remove right wheel, then dust covers, Remove oil dip stick tube/ and bolt that holds it, Don't touch your exhaust, just remove your heat(slowly bend them)shields, loose your transmission two pump limes on the right side(all the way to the right of the motor so you can remove top starter bolt. once the starter is loose, unbolt the two bolts that hold the hot wire along the outside of the motor so the starter will move freely, pull the down the cover over the starter off, then disconnect hot wire and ignition wire, drop out ! It will not come out unless the wires are off.
Remove the solenoid off the starter before dropping starter down and out by the tranny cooler lines. Install in reverse. Practice installing the solenoid before installing, go by feel....works great!
my brother in law is a mechanic and came over and helped me on my 08 tundra. We found a forum that told you to jack the motor Up by removing the 2 bolts on the passenger side that hold the miter down to the frame. We had it out and a new one in less then 4 hrs.
Nice, have a cousin and he told me to take the front bumper off and the radiator. This is what Toyota recommends, saying it takes 24 hours of labor to do. I'm happy people are working around them and not paying this ridiculous price.
I've been driving Toyota 4x4 trucks since '93. Never had to replace a starter. My Wife had a 4Runner with a starter short at ~ 190K. Pulled it, replaced the solenoid contacts for $13, and it was still going strong when we sold it at 220K.
I had to use e8 socket to remove two of the exhaust manifold studs near the back so I could realign the exhaust manifold. I pried off / pulled exhaust manifold back and forth the exhaust manifold to remove it. I couldn't remember which side that gasket goes on if the top or on the manifold the small one. This is the second time I'm replacing the starter though it's a lifetime warranty part. I had a exhaust wrap around the starter, I put this heat shield on it, and I applied heat shield with silicones heat spray around the exhaust manifold, I am hoping after this is done it's fixed permanently. The issue the truck was doing when the starter failed this time wasn't not starting the vehicle which the gears were locked up on the original, it was trying to crank the truck Non-Stop. Putting on and removing the battery terminals cause the negative post to leaves some small weld marks. I checked the battery which is still good & I replaced my negative leads by recrimping them & installing them on a new terminal. I also recrimped the lead since I seen some of the wire was starting to separate on the terminals the dealership replaced previously under warranty. The work I did will not have corrosion. Only is all system I'll probably switch to a stainless steel long exhaust though I don't have money to do that currently since you have to change your or modify your hole is all system. If I'm going to change the headers I'm going to change all of it the stainless steel.
Just changed my starter out, thanks for the tips. 4.5 hour job. Removing the bolts from the muffler after the catalytic converter saves time. Did not have to remove the exhaust manifold.
Cameron Wirth Also, don’t bother putting the top bolt on the small heat shield, took me 20 minutes to remove it, it’s in a very tight spot. You have two bolts holding it already. 👍🏻 also need to make a small wire tool to unlock the connector from the starter. Much fun. 😂😂
Cameron Wirth The hardest part was jostling the starter into place, put some wd-40 on the machined lip of the starter to help. Everything else is easy, take your time and take a break between stalls. I took 2 beer brakes, all went well.
I had a 1969 Ford F100 Straight 6 you could just about stand in the engine compartment LOL but I didn't have to I just went underneath & had it out & in 20 or 30 minutes no joke. I miss them days. I did my Tundra yesterday without pulling the manifold I did look at it, but gave it a try without pulling the manifold & got lucky. Still a pain in th A no matter how you look at it.
Funny that on the 4.7 litre the starter is mounted under the intake plenum which was a pain to take off. So the engineers decided they'd move the starter (5.7 litre)so they installed it in an out-of-the-way place such as this.
Must be nice to not live in the rust belt. My starter is fine now but just researching for when the inevitable happens. I imagine ill be cutting a lot of bolts. Fun stuff..
My battery is flat and the lock in the door is broken, so I am looking for an alternative entry to my vehicle. I am wondering if it is possible to access the starter from underneath to connect an extra battery to the starter and this way gain access. Is it?
Get the heat shields out pull the starter from the front take the dipstick out no need to take anything else loose calls for 6hrs can be out and in 3hrs this way seems like a lot of work but it removes the fight with the manifold
I have the same thing, 08 5.7L v8 with 126k miles and getting ready to replace my starter. Must be a tundra thing. So which gaskets exactly need replaced?
Those starters are a Bastard to get out because of all the heat shielding and manifold that has to be taken out.. Took me 6 hours to do one. Granted I have never done one before..
I have an 07 5.7 l 136000 miles on it. The starters rotating but the Bendix is not engaging completely and disengaging. Usually cuz it gets gummed up and dried out . Not looking forward to taking out exhaust manifold.
Yes you will need to get new gaskets. The gaskets are one time use and should not use again after taking it off. Draining the oil is just an option, when the dip stick is remove it will start to leak if the oil is not drained. REPLY
Seriously, you guys that are talking WD40 for penetrating lube should try Parts Blaster. It's even better warmed up as it is more molecularly (is that a word?) active and really creeps. WD has its uses but PB is maybe the best product for rust busting.
Wtf Would hate to have to change that starter on side the road Changed a few starters on side the road before that were a little tight to get to , but damn that Toyota one is some B.S
Rookie Rookie.the negative cable is not the power supply the negative cable is the ground. and using a Napa starter was not a good idea. granted it was cheaper but you be doing this again within 2 years.
I highly doubt that, this truck drove 900 miles a day. The vehicle did not get started but two maybe three times a day. You sir have not a clue what you are talking about... czcams.com/video/4IgHj2Uim_0/video.html
Good opportunity to drain all the nasties in the bottom of the pan. It's not what comes out in the first five minutes as it is everything else after that.
I replace the starter 6 months ago. It's not a easy job. But once you do it, you learn from your mistakes. It's a lot easier.
Wow your tundra even has the same miles as mine and you helped me out greatly with your video it walked me right through this 8 hour job ....I will share it
I literally just finished replacing my 07 Tundra 5.7l 176,000 mile starter.
I dropped the cat, cat heat shield, exhaust manifold fender heat plate, pulled the header (easy day), remove the starter heat shield, loosened the starter disconnected wiring and first harness bolt closet to the starter. Replaced everything in reverse all in all 4-5hrs saved $700 DIY dollars and used Sparks Toyota new starter @ $384
I've been turning wenches for 35 years and am always looking for short cuts but in my opinion removing header is the best option. No fluid loss, no bent shields or missing bolts.
170k seems to be their failure point, but toyota charged me 195 for the starter idk y it cost u 400
I did one today. Took about 4 hours thanks to this video.
That's one clean truck for 2008. It's nice to work on something that is not a rust bucket like up here in western NY.
Ridiculous to make a start so inaccessible.. great video!
I loved my tundra have a sequoia now but i would have freaking shotgunned the truck or the engineers lol. God bless you brother thank you for the video from the bottom of my heart
I am tundra owner from Russia. I did the same work without removing the exhaust manifold. The work was difficult, but real.
MrCat157 was it pretty hard I have 2008 crewmax limited.. when I turn the key only makes a click ..
DO YOU HAVE A LARGE GUN MOUNTED IN THE BED-COMRAD?.....
Fk'n A! That's a lot of work for a starter. Thanks for walking us through this...
My Toyota dealership said it's a $750 job including a new/ rebuilt starter. Not including tax. Good video.
Hey guys i just did this replacement in 2.5 hours,
Disconnect battery with 10mm
Remove 10mm bolt holding down the dipstick on top and pull the dipstick tube up towards u
Now get under the truck
Take the single 12mm bolt that holds the transmission cooler hoses bracket (below passenger side catalytic converter)
Remove the two 14mm bolts holding the starter (youll need a long wrench for the one top )
Pull starter off so now u can see and remove the 12mm bolt on the solenoid
Disconnect the thin gray wire going to the solenoid
Now the starter should be completely free
Spin the starter around so the nose now faces toward the front of the truck (180 degrees)
Spray some wd40 on the transmission cooler hoses because you will need to push them up away from you while you slip the starter out from under them.
To reinstall reverse order 😬
Same engine and model year?
I just done mine in 4 hours, probably could do it in 3 hrs now ,Remove right wheel, then dust covers, Remove oil dip stick tube/ and bolt that holds it, Don't touch your exhaust, just remove your heat(slowly bend them)shields, loose your transmission two pump limes on the right side(all the way to the right of the motor so you can remove top starter bolt. once the starter is loose, unbolt the two bolts that hold the hot wire along the outside of the motor so the starter will move freely, pull the down the cover over the starter off, then disconnect hot wire and ignition wire, drop out ! It will not come out unless the wires are off.
Since when does it take 4 hours to do a starter motor? Wow !!! Who designed that setup?
Thanks u save my day
1 hr I’m done
I'm going to save your comment for future use!!!
I'm glad I saw this. I have to do mines soon. I'm going to do this method I refuse to touch my exhaust
Instead of removing the cooler lines I took the 4 bolts off the transfer case and jacked it up until I had enough room to pull the starter out
Good job Mr.
Im about to do mine.. fingers crossed !
navil campos paying a friend 250 to do mine lol
16.27 timeframe! That's quick!
Remove the solenoid off the starter before dropping starter down and out by the tranny cooler lines. Install in reverse. Practice installing the solenoid before installing, go by feel....works great!
my brother in law is a mechanic and came over and helped me on my 08 tundra. We found a forum that told you to jack the motor Up by removing the 2 bolts on the passenger side that hold the miter down to the frame. We had it out and a new one in less then 4 hrs.
Nice, have a cousin and he told me to take the front bumper off and the radiator. This is what Toyota recommends, saying it takes 24 hours of labor to do. I'm happy people are working around them and not paying this ridiculous price.
Yep that what I did
I've been driving Toyota 4x4 trucks since '93. Never had to replace a starter. My Wife had a 4Runner with a starter short at ~ 190K. Pulled it, replaced the solenoid contacts for $13, and it was still going strong when we sold it at 220K.
Have an 01 crappy chrysler minivan, have never replaced starter. Maybe its a Denso.Has over 270k miles. Original engine.
Just did one today in two hours.
I had to use e8 socket to remove two of the exhaust manifold studs near the back so I could realign the exhaust manifold. I pried off / pulled exhaust manifold back and forth the exhaust manifold to remove it. I couldn't remember which side that gasket goes on if the top or on the manifold the small one. This is the second time I'm replacing the starter though it's a lifetime warranty part. I had a exhaust wrap around the starter, I put this heat shield on it, and I applied heat shield with silicones heat spray around the exhaust manifold, I am hoping after this is done it's fixed permanently. The issue the truck was doing when the starter failed this time wasn't not starting the vehicle which the gears were locked up on the original, it was trying to crank the truck Non-Stop. Putting on and removing the battery terminals cause the negative post to leaves some small weld marks. I checked the battery which is still good & I replaced my negative leads by recrimping them & installing them on a new terminal. I also recrimped the lead since I seen some of the wire was starting to separate on the terminals the dealership replaced previously under warranty. The work I did will not have corrosion. Only is all system I'll probably switch to a stainless steel long exhaust though I don't have money to do that currently since you have to change your or modify your hole is all system. If I'm going to change the headers I'm going to change all of it the stainless steel.
Just changed my starter out, thanks for the tips. 4.5 hour job. Removing the bolts from the muffler after the catalytic converter saves time. Did not have to remove the exhaust manifold.
The manifold removal isn’t necessary??? Thank god I am dreading having to do this on my 07
Cameron Wirth
Also, don’t bother putting the top bolt on the small heat shield, took me 20 minutes to remove it, it’s in a very tight spot. You have two bolts holding it already. 👍🏻 also need to make a small wire tool to unlock the connector from the starter. Much fun. 😂😂
SOCALPRINTER thanks man. I’m really hating life thinking of doing this
SOCALPRINTER how tough is it with not removing the manifold?
Cameron Wirth
The hardest part was jostling the starter into place, put some wd-40 on the machined lip of the starter to help. Everything else is easy, take your time and take a break between stalls. I took 2 beer brakes, all went well.
I had a 1969 Ford F100
Straight 6 you could just about stand in the engine compartment LOL but I didn't have to
I just went underneath & had it out & in 20 or 30 minutes no joke. I miss them days. I did my Tundra yesterday without pulling the manifold I did look at it, but gave it a try without pulling the manifold & got lucky. Still a pain in th A no matter how you look at it.
I have a 08 crewmax 5.7 with 231,000 miles and my stater finally went. Be replacing it tomorrow. I will be doing mine without touching the exhaust.
Only took me 4 hrs complete take out and install
Funny that on the 4.7 litre the starter is mounted under the intake plenum which was a pain to take off. So the engineers decided they'd move the starter (5.7 litre)so they installed it in an out-of-the-way place such as this.
The muffler has a rubber bushing you should be able to push the muffler back to give room to pull converter pipe out
Must be nice to not live in the rust belt. My starter is fine now but just researching for when the inevitable happens. I imagine ill be cutting a lot of bolts. Fun stuff..
wow idk how your bolts are so clean. mine were rusted so bad theres nothing even left for the wrench to grab onto
Blaster penetrating oil/cleaner, plus where I live is one of the driest area is the U.S..
My battery is flat and the lock in the door is broken, so I am looking for an alternative entry to my vehicle. I am wondering if it is possible to access the starter from underneath to connect an extra battery to the starter and this way gain access.
Is it?
What a pain in
Get the heat shields out pull the starter from the front take the dipstick out no need to take anything else loose calls for 6hrs can be out and in 3hrs this way seems like a lot of work but it removes the fight with the manifold
I ended up jacking up the motor and getting the starter out that way you don't need to take the exhaust manifolds off it's about a three-hour job
mine literally failed at 172k, seems to be the failure rate, oe denso starter cost 200 bux only go with oe
I have the same thing, 08 5.7L v8 with 126k miles and getting ready to replace my starter. Must be a tundra thing. So which gaskets exactly need replaced?
Exhaust manifold gasket, they come in two. You only need the passenger side but they do not sell just one side.
Well done Amigo, not service friendly
I just replaced mine and left the manifold in I took to motor mounts out and jacked the motor up and cut all these steps out
Wow, my 08 has 267,000 miles and the starter just went out. I have someone coming out to look at it tomorrow.
Those starters are a Bastard to get out because of all the heat shielding and manifold that has to be taken out.. Took me 6 hours to do one. Granted I have never done one before..
How did you reconnect cat converter and then connect that to middle pipe? Seems like it's so tight and no movement in middle pipe
I'm sorry for the late reply, you needed to disconnect the other exhaust manifold coming form the driver side to the muffler and push it back. @4:50
Is the starter serviceable?
My 2008 crewmax limited only makes a click noise and won’t turn over I believe it is a starter any advice
Hit the start with a hammer, then try to start the truck. If this works it's your starter and it need to be replaced.
2300 at a Toyota dealership a Toyota starter is 1000 bucks..Oh what a feeling"
aceyorba they quoted me at 898$ without the starter I told them I bought it already.
A dealer here in California just told me $527. You can get one on Amazon for $145.
That’s bs, new oem with mark up at my dealer is $500 and $400 labor
Complete B.S. the starter is $199. Labor is 5.8 hours of book time. The job should be around $1000 to $1200 parts included.
That’s crazy. All that just to change out a starter.
I have an 07 5.7 l 136000 miles on it. The starters rotating but the Bendix is not engaging completely and disengaging. Usually cuz it gets gummed up and dried out . Not looking forward to taking out exhaust manifold.
Brad Mullins exact problem my 07 with 146,xxx miles is having
I'm having the exact issue here with mines. My CZcams video shows how mines sound when I start it
do I need to buy anything other than a starter like gaskets also do you have to drain your oil before you do this?
Yes you will need to get new gaskets. The gaskets are one time use and should not use again after taking it off. Draining the oil is just an option, when the dip stick is remove it will start to leak if the oil is not drained.
REPLY
mr.justdoitright what happens if you do use them?
Metal gaskets are one time use, you are going to get exhaust leaks, leading to bad gas mileage.
Seriously, you guys that are talking WD40 for penetrating lube should try Parts Blaster. It's even better warmed up as it is more molecularly (is that a word?) active and really creeps. WD has its uses but PB is maybe the best product
for rust busting.
Try full synthetic automatic transmission fluid mixed acetone (equal parts).
Dang doing all that to replaced starter come on Toyota
4-12 hours to do a starter motor? WT? Who designed this setup? Get me an F150 for sure!!
Most def
Does this work on a 4x4?
this is crazy. It took me 20 minutes to change my starter in my Jeep. Bad design.
Didn't last very long? I'd say it lasted a long time it's an 08
Got a 1992 Ford Bronco starts everytime...
Got a 1999 Suzuki starts everytime...
Had a dodge Ram 1500 purchased New in 2005. Got rid of it this year 2019 with 260K and have never had the slightest hint of a starter going out.
Wtf
Would hate to have to change that starter on side the road
Changed a few starters on side the road before that were a little tight to get to , but damn that Toyota one is some B.S
NAPA Starter LOL
Rookie Rookie.the negative cable is not the power supply the negative cable is the ground. and using a Napa starter was not a good idea. granted it was cheaper but you be doing this again within 2 years.
I highly doubt that, this truck drove 900 miles a day. The vehicle did not get started but two maybe three times a day. You sir have not a clue what you are talking about... czcams.com/video/4IgHj2Uim_0/video.html
No offense, have a crappy 01 chrysler minivan, close to 300k miles, original engine....and starter original.
My 01 f150 takes 1 hour to change starter. Remember ford has a better idea.
The Ford engine is usually replaced and comes with a new starter!
You are hating on Toyota over a starter
the oil drain is just to scare the rookies. no frkin way you have to drain the oil.
I did say it was an option.
Good opportunity to drain all the nasties in the bottom of the pan. It's not what comes out in the first five minutes as it is everything else after that.
Better to remove the positive battery terminal sure negative is fine too. I can just sleep better at nights removing positive
That's not how batteries work. It's stupid, but actually the negative wire is were the power is coming from.
176 is not high? haha
I have a ford with 200K before it had it first major problems, so yes that is not high mileage. Plus that took 2-3 hours to fix not 9 hours.
4lo blinking, check EFI fuse no1
Checked everything... And no, if that was "it" the engine would not of clicked over and changing of the starter would of done nothing.